How Do You Define "Junk Food"?
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crap i know i dont need to be eating, things i have vowed to leave alone0
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Junk food is food that I eat strictly for taste purposes. None of my macro needs are high enough that I can get away with claiming a "need" to supplement my calories or fat with some soy ice cream. My 20 calorie mint is junk-I love it, but I'm not eating it to meet a nutrient need. If a food gives more than minor benefits to my micros or macros, it's no longer junk.
I try to limit junk so I do better with eating my micros and macros, but there's a place for the junk too. I don't watch tons of trash tv, but I'm guilty of indulging there too. I like the fitness and health threads here, but some of the best threads are the ones that you know are going to get nuked.
I don't feel bad for taking in some junk, I just need to be mindful not to take too much in.0 -
Change the website? I asked a question and that is changing the website? Wow. Just wow.OP, instead of trying to change this website, which will be a frustrating, losing battle for you, why don't you just find another website that is more in agreement with your way of thinking/living?0 -
lol! Oh noz empty calories and fat!!!!!
< sips beer while eating ice cream. It's genetic I'm sure . . .
blasphemy beer is not an empty calorie the hops are great full of phytochemical and the wonderful antimicrobial properties of beer. Why if it wasnt for beer my German ancestors would have all died of crud what's that water disease called...see because of beer we dont even have to worry about it.0 -
this.IMO, it's a food that is high in calories with little to no nutritional benefit. Like Little Debbie snacks, for instance. Total highly processed junk.
basically something that's easy to eat, has a relatively high caloric count and that i will still be hungry after finishing.
junk food has it's place though. there have been times i've need to take a ride in the cookie+ice cream mobile to make my calorie goals :laugh:0 -
I think most of the disagreement came from calling oil junk food. What type of oil was it? Kraft garbage ranch dressing is a very different beast than olive oil and balsamic, or even lard. High fat is not junk food by default.0
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I think I consider "junk" anything that is any food that is highly processed or unnecessary in order to fill my macro/micro nutrients. Am I going to cut all "junk food" out of my diet, hell no. Everything in moderation.0
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I think most of the disagreement came from calling oil junk food. What type of oil was it? Kraft garbage ranch dressing is a very different beast than olive oil and balsamic, or even lard. High fat is not junk food by default.
ill agree with this only because i think kraft dressing tastes terrible. However, we may part ways if you put a homemade mayo based ranch in front of me. MMMMMMMM garlicky0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:There is no junk food, there is only food. Your overall diet can be healthy or unhealthy, individual foods in a vacuum cannot be.
Also, aren't you the guy who said add olives or avocados to a salad? So olives and avocados are good (wicked high level of sodium in olives, due to brining,) but olive oil and avocado oil are bad? Very strong logic...
Hush you and your logic--you're just going to amaze the OP.
... On second though, keep going. Maybe you'll baffle him into blissful, joyous silence.0 -
lol! Oh noz empty calories and fat!!!!!
< sips beer while eating ice cream. It's genetic I'm sure . . .
blasphemy beer is not an empty calorie the hops are great full of phytochemical and the wonderful antimicrobial properties of beer. Why if it wasnt for beer my German ancestors would have all died of crud what's that water disease called...see because of beer we dont even have to worry about it.
Oh stop. Everyone knows that the human race would have died out if we had to drink beer rather than triple filtered organic bottled water. We're delicate creatures after all0 -
Does being sanctimonious burn a lot of calories?0
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On another thread, i called a meal with 64% of it's calories coming from refined fat: "junk food". The meal being named was a salad doused in oil. Some people are trying to claim that is not junk food, despite the high ratio of nutritionless fiberless refined fat, to actual food. Do you think drowning a 90 calorie salad in 250 calories of oil makes it junk food?
How do you define what is "junk food"?
I think the definition of junk food is something that adds calories to your diet with little, to no, nutrients, and i think the definition includes anything toxic (loaded with food chemicals, unwanted hormones, pesticides, etc).
Websters defines it as: "food that is not good for your health because it contains high amounts of fat or sugar"
Oxford Dictionary defines it as: "food that has low nutritional value, typically produced in the form of packaged snacks needing little or no preparation." What's your definition?
Some fats are good for you. Some people prefer to limit (or eliminate entirely) fats, sugar, etc.
But there is a time and place for some high-calorie snacks. In moderation, they're all right.0 -
there is just no winning on this website:
if I were to eat only fruit and veggies I's get lambasted for not getting enough protein and fat in my diet, then if I put oil on my salad, somebody else pipes up saying that is junk food ... sigh ... I might just have Burger King for dinner and save myself the hassle ... hmmm double whopper xl :blushing:0 -
Change the website? I asked a question and that is changing the website? Wow. Just wow.OP, instead of trying to change this website, which will be a frustrating, losing battle for you, why don't you just find another website that is more in agreement with your way of thinking/living?
Dude. Don't try to pretend you're simply posting an innocent little question. You're all over the forums, preaching against the evils of various foods. All I'm trying to say is that you can save yourself some frustration by finding a more receptive audience.0 -
It's not very frustrating. There are many receptive people. I always get private messages and friend requests from people who don't want to speak up among the vultures. I just put the haters, misinformed loudmouths, and close minded types on "ignore", so most of the negative responses i don't even see. It seems most of the negativity is coming from the same few people.
Change the website? I asked a question and that is changing the website? Wow. Just wow.OP, instead of trying to change this website, which will be a frustrating, losing battle for you, why don't you just find another website that is more in agreement with your way of thinking/living?
Dude. Don't try to pretend you're simply posting an innocent little question. You're all over the forums, preaching against the evils of various foods. All I'm trying to say is that you can save yourself some frustration by finding a more receptive audience.0 -
Of course you do. Why would you want unbiased opinion when you know it all anyway. Saying dietary fat is junk food is pretty funny, even most vegans wouldn't buy into that tin foil hat piece of nonsense.
It's not very frustrating. There are many receptive people. I always get private messages and friend requests from people who don't want to speak up among the vultures. I just put the haters, misinformed loudmouths, and close minded types on "ignore", so most of the negative responses i don't even see. It seems most of the negativity is coming from the same few people.
Change the website? I asked a question and that is changing the website? Wow. Just wow.OP, instead of trying to change this website, which will be a frustrating, losing battle for you, why don't you just find another website that is more in agreement with your way of thinking/living?
Dude. Don't try to pretend you're simply posting an innocent little question. You're all over the forums, preaching against the evils of various foods. All I'm trying to say is that you can save yourself some frustration by finding a more receptive audience.0 -
Junk food : Food that is thrown in the junk?0
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I'd call it anything processed with trans-fat in it0
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There is no junk food, there is only food. Your overall diet can be healthy or unhealthy, individual foods in a vacuum cannot be.
Also, aren't you the guy who said add olives or avocados to a salad? So olives and avocados are good (wicked high level of sodium in olives, due to brining,) but olive oil and avocado oil are bad? Very strong logic...
hey hey hey now..don't go using that crazy logic on these threads now....!0 -
It's not very frustrating. There are many receptive people. I always get private messages and friend requests from people who don't want to speak up among the vultures. I just put the haters, misinformed loudmouths, and close minded types on "ignore", so most of the negative responses i don't even see. It seems most of the negativity is coming from the same few people.
Then why don't you create a group, and all of ya'll can go in there and talk about the various forms of fat/oil that ya'll don't like and that ya'll believe is junk. ??0 -
It's not very frustrating. There are many receptive people. I always get private messages and friend requests from people who don't want to speak up among the vultures. I just put the haters, misinformed loudmouths, and close minded types on "ignore", so most of the negative responses i don't even see. It seems most of the negativity is coming from the same few people.
Change the website? I asked a question and that is changing the website? Wow. Just wow.OP, instead of trying to change this website, which will be a frustrating, losing battle for you, why don't you just find another website that is more in agreement with your way of thinking/living?
Dude. Don't try to pretend you're simply posting an innocent little question. You're all over the forums, preaching against the evils of various foods. All I'm trying to say is that you can save yourself some frustration by finding a more receptive audience.
You're so close-minded that you're willing to call anyone with a varying opinion misinformed? Seems legit. Hypocrites are hypocritical.0 -
On another thread, i called a meal with 64% of it's calories coming from refined fat: "junk food". The meal being named was a salad doused in oil. Some people are trying to claim that is not junk food, despite the high ratio of nutritionless fiberless refined fat, to actual food. Do you think drowning a 90 calorie salad in 250 calories of oil makes it junk food?
How do you define what is "junk food"?
I think the definition of junk food is something that adds calories to your diet with little, to no, nutrients, and i think the definition includes anything toxic (loaded with food chemicals, unwanted hormones, pesticides, etc).
Websters defines it as: "food that is not good for your health because it contains high amounts of fat or sugar"
Oxford Dictionary defines it as: "food that has low nutritional value, typically produced in the form of packaged snacks needing little or no preparation."
What's your definition?0 -
Olive oil is refined oil, certainly not junk, far from it. What kind of oil was it. There are many foods that ARE junk and are low in calories; that is why a calorie of one food is NOT the same as a calorie of another.
Probably need to clarify what type of oil it was... may very well have been junk food if it was "junk" oil0 -
Junk food : Food that is thrown in the junk?
That works for me - that would be cauliflower, Brussels sprouts and peppers, can't stand them.
I tend to avoid (but don't get paranoid about it):
Trans fats as there's legitimate concerns.
Low cal or low fat options as they often taste worse or contain bulking agents like gums with no nutritional value.
Artificial sweeteners as I don't like the taste of most of them, don't have a sweet tooth and prefer to use sugar if I do want sweetness.
Trying to label oil as unhealthy is about the daftest thing I've seen on here for a while - avocado, olives, nuts, peanuts, oily fish.....0 -
You seem to be under the erroneous impression that oils and fats are 'bad' for health.0
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Junk food : Food that is thrown in the junk?
That works for me - that would be cauliflower, Brussels sprouts and peppers, can't stand them.
I tend to avoid (but don't get paranoid about it):
Trans fats as there's legitimate concerns.
Low cal or low fat options as they often taste worse or contain bulking agents like gums with no nutritional value.
Artificial sweeteners as I don't like the taste of most of them, don't have a sweet tooth and prefer to use sugar if I do want sweetness.
Trying to label oil as unhealthy is about the daftest thing I've seen on here for a while - avocado, olives, nuts, peanuts, oily fish.....
Agreed with everything above including the cauliflower, Brussels sprouts and peppers0 -
What's your definition?
Dunno. WTF is "refined fat"?0 -
It's not very frustrating. There are many receptive people. I always get private messages and friend requests from people who don't want to speak up among the vultures. I just put the haters, misinformed loudmouths, and close minded types on "ignore", so most of the negative responses i don't even see. It seems most of the negativity is coming from the same few people.
Change the website? I asked a question and that is changing the website? Wow. Just wow.OP, instead of trying to change this website, which will be a frustrating, losing battle for you, why don't you just find another website that is more in agreement with your way of thinking/living?
Dude. Don't try to pretend you're simply posting an innocent little question. You're all over the forums, preaching against the evils of various foods. All I'm trying to say is that you can save yourself some frustration by finding a more receptive audience.
Misinformed you say? So inform us. You have been asked to back up your opinions with some kind of evidence by a number of people and you never do. I am 100% genuinely curious as to why you are so vehemently against olive oil as I have never come across it before even from vegan friends. I grow olives, they are inedible fresh from the tree. They either have to be cured in brine for weeks or cold pressed for the oil. So tell me where you get this information from, publicly so that we can all be informed. Sources please0 -
High sugar content. Hydrogenated oil content! Trans fat content. GMO content. High Salt content, and Milky Way bars....I prefer reeses myself;)0
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Hmmmmm junk food to me ...is something that does not benefit my nutrition ....snickers yes high cal sugars fat ...but if the micros /macros have been met and I'm done for they day why not ....canned cheese , I would think this was only meant to be thrown away along with spam ( sorry spam lovers) ...those sugar little peanut marshmallow things, yeah they look like a peanut but nope ...JUNK , salad is never junk , it's what you put on it that makes it high calorie or an excellent choice for the day ....olive oil is not junk , it contains good fats that some of us actually NEED at the end of the day , I'm always low on fat ....so basically junk food TO ME is something so processed it can't even be identified in a food pyramid any longer ! That's when the definition of healthy and healthIER come in
stepping off my soap box now .... 0
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