How Do You Define "Junk Food"?
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And an odd use of an equal sign.
Junk food = irrational fear of food
This is simply untrue.0 -
Wine is a beverage. But sure, it could easily be classified as "empty calories". It would also fit nicely with those Julia Child quotes above.
When logic and reason doesn't work, what do you expect? The word "demonize" might be overused, but then again... so is "junk food."
Since you mentioned that you won't have wine unless you've got the calories left over for it, is wine a junk food?
Pleasure. Art. I enjoy wine. I prefer to use those calories for a nice glass, or two, or three of wine than a pop tart or two. It's all about choices. (more so than it is about "moderation", in fact.)
You choose how to use your discretionary calories. I choose how to use mine. And I don't blather on telling others they *should* drink wine, or that they are "deprived" because they don't drink wine, or that their lives are "pathetic" or that they are "wine-o-phobic" because they don't drink wine.
I don't judge how you use your calories. I will from time to time state that the earlier healthier habits are formed the easier it is later. That goes for myself as well. I started eating a more nutritious diet when I was about 34 or 35. I wish I'd started much much earlier. c'est la vie. Cheers!:drinker:
PS: try one post without an insult. Just for the novelty.
Wine can't be junk because it's a beverage. Got it. :indifferent:
Perhaps you ought to try a single post without condescending to your audience. I'd tell you what I really think of your posts and your attitude on these forums, but I'd probably get a strike. Good luck in all your future endeavors, and I hope you enjoy the view from your high horse.
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And an odd use of an equal sign.
Junk food = irrational fear of food
This is simply untrue.
Nope. Nope nope nope. "=" literally means "is equal to"
Sweet Jesus Christ.0 -
It's an odd use
And an odd use of an equal sign.
Junk food = irrational fear of food
This is simply untrue.
Nope. Nope nope nope. "=" literally means "is equal to"
Sweet Jesus Christ.
I understand what it means.0 -
It's an odd use
And an odd use of an equal sign.
Junk food = irrational fear of food
This is simply untrue.
Nope. Nope nope nope. "=" literally means "is equal to"
Sweet Jesus Christ.
I understand what it means.
And I know what it means as well, and again, it's simply untrue.0 -
It's an odd use
And an odd use of an equal sign.
Junk food = irrational fear of food
This is simply untrue.
Nope. Nope nope nope. "=" literally means "is equal to"
Sweet Jesus Christ.
I understand what it means.
... Sweet Jesus Christ.0 -
And we wonder why their is so many people with eating disorders.0
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You're quite a PoW:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Wine is a beverage. But sure, it could easily be classified as "empty calories". It would also fit nicely with those Julia Child quotes above.
When logic and reason doesn't work, what do you expect? The word "demonize" might be overused, but then again... so is "junk food."
Since you mentioned that you won't have wine unless you've got the calories left over for it, is wine a junk food? Pleasure. Art. I enjoy wine. I prefer to use those calories for a nice glass, or two, or three of wine than a pop tart or two. It's all about choices. (more so than it is about "moderation", in fact.)
You choose how to use your discretionary calories. I choose how to use mine. And I don't blather on telling others they *should* drink wine, or that they are "deprived" because they don't drink wine, or that their lives are "pathetic" or that they are "wine-o-phobic" because they don't drink wine.
I don't judge how you use your calories. I will from time to time state that the earlier healthier habits are formed the easier it is later. That goes for myself as well. I started eating a more nutritious diet when I was about 34 or 35. I wish I'd started much much earlier. c'est la vie. Cheers!:drinker:
PS: try one post without an insult. Just for the novelty.
Wine can't be junk because it's a beverage. Got it. :indifferent:
Perhaps you ought to try a single post without condescending to your audience. I'd tell you what I really think of your posts and your attitude on these forums, but I'd probably get a strike. Good luck in all your future endeavors, and I hope you enjoy the view from your high horse.
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Food is food. Your body doesn't know where it's coming from. No good, no bad. No magic.
Move more than you eat in calories, if you need to lose weight.
The anxiety caused by eating the right or wrong food probably does you more harm than a cupcake ever will.0 -
And we wonder why their is so many people with eating disorders.Food is food. Your body doesn't know where it's coming from. No good, no bad. No magic.
Move more than you eat in calories, if you need to lose weight.
The anxiety caused by eating the right or wrong food probably does you more harm than a cupcake ever will.
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Junk food = irrational fear of food
This is simply untrue.
Thinking that any food by itself will cause poor health is irrational. It's a fear that's exhibited by the term 'junk food'.
Pop tarts
Twinkles
Salad dressing
The McDonalds Menu
These are commonly associated with the label junk food among many others. They aren't. They're just food. Some are more nutrient sparse than others and they tend to be calorie dense but there's no reason that an intelligent, rational person can incorporate them into their diet if they want to and still maintain excellent physical health. Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.0 -
With the exception of the OP I haven't seen anyone say anything like what you're suggesting. No one has said this, or implied this. Suggesting that folks are somehow BETTER for eating junk food is kinda silly, but no one has said it can't/isn't incorporated. Have they? (other than the OP again)Thinking that any food by itself will cause poor health is irrational. It's a fear that's exhibited by the term 'junk food'.
Pop tarts
Twinkles
Salad dressing
The McDonalds Menu
These are commonly associated with the label junk food among many others. They aren't. They're just food. Some are more nutrient sparse than others and they tend to be calorie dense but there's no reason that an intelligent, rational person can incorporate them into their diet if they want to and still maintain excellent physical health. Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.0 -
If you have to ask if it's junk.... then it probably is.:grumble:0
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Junk food = irrational fear of food
This is simply untrue.
Thinking that any food by itself will cause poor health is irrational. It's a fear that's exhibited by the term 'junk food'.
Pop tarts
Twinkles
Salad dressing
The McDonalds Menu
These are commonly associated with the label junk food among many others. They aren't. They're just food. Some are more nutrient sparse than others and they tend to be calorie dense but there's no reason that an intelligent, rational person can incorporate them into their diet if they want to and still maintain excellent physical health. Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.
That's fine. You have the right to your opinion. I don't think of junk food as a food that causes poor health. Like I said, I look at junk food just like the definition from Oxford stated it. The definition says nothing of causing poor health. I look at it as food that needs to be monitored a bit more closely than other types of foods such as broccoli, apples, almonds....basically any food that wouldn't be stereotypically consider "junk". Can a person get fat off of too many fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts...etc? Of course they can, but you don't hear of that happening all too often. At least I sure don't. You tell me....what is the likely hood that a child is going to eat over his TDEE in bananas? Now, how often are they going to go over their TDEE eating Oatmeal Cream Pies (My Favorite)? I think that answers itself. Everyone here seems to forget that just because we all watch what we eat now that most of America doesn't and that a lot of those adults that don't pay attention have children who also don't pay attention or ever learn. So they just eat away at "junk" food cause it's cheap, it tastes good, and if applicable, it's what their kids want, too. Obviously, it would be better if the entire country would learn how to eat healthy and sustainable, but we know that is going to happen. So while I understand that everything can be eaten in moderation and I do eat junk food, as I don't associate it as a negative term cause I have learned what a healthy diet is in my opinion, I am also just fine continuing to call in junk food as I don't feel the need to reinvent the wheel.0 -
With the exception of the OP I haven't seen anyone say anything like what you're suggesting. No one has said this, or implied this. Suggesting that folks are somehow BETTER for eating junk food is kinda silly, but no one has said it can't/isn't incorporated. Have they? (other than the OP again)Thinking that any food by itself will cause poor health is irrational. It's a fear that's exhibited by the term 'junk food'.
Pop tarts
Twinkles
Salad dressing
The McDonalds Menu
These are commonly associated with the label junk food among many others. They aren't. They're just food. Some are more nutrient sparse than others and they tend to be calorie dense but there's no reason that an intelligent, rational person can incorporate them into their diet if they want to and still maintain excellent physical health. Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.
nobody says eating "junk food" (your term, not mine) makes them better than anyone else. we do say that it makes this whole process easier if you understand that no foods are necessarily off limits. the easier all of this is, the more likely somebody will be successful in the short term and the long term.
conversely, there are many people who follow exclusionary diets who do puff out their chests and tell others that they are better for doing so. the clean/paleo/primal crowd is a good example. they legitimately believe that restricting their diets to a limited set of choices means that they will be healthier and live longer than those who don't. they are very smug about this belief. if they had any science to back that up, their message would be better received, but they don't.0 -
Actually, the fellow I quoted did just that.
With the exception of the OP I haven't seen anyone say anything like what you're suggesting. No one has said this, or implied this. Suggesting that folks are somehow BETTER for eating junk food is kinda silly, but no one has said it can't/isn't incorporated. Have they? (other than the OP again)Thinking that any food by itself will cause poor health is irrational. It's a fear that's exhibited by the term 'junk food'.
Pop tarts
Twinkles
Salad dressing
The McDonalds Menu
These are commonly associated with the label junk food among many others. They aren't. They're just food. Some are more nutrient sparse than others and they tend to be calorie dense but there's no reason that an intelligent, rational person can incorporate them into their diet if they want to and still maintain excellent physical health. Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.
nobody says eating "junk food" (your term, not mine) makes them better than anyone else. we do say that it makes this whole process easier if you understand that no foods are necessarily off limits. the easier all of this is, the more likely somebody will be successful in the short term and the long term.
conversely, there are many people who follow exclusionary diets who do puff out their chests and tell others that they are better for doing so. the clean/paleo/primal crowd is a good example. they legitimately believe that restricting their diets to a limited set of choices means that they will be healthier and live longer than those who don't. they are very smug about this belief. if they had any science to back that up, their message would be better received, but they don't.0 -
With the exception of the OP I haven't seen anyone say anything like what you're suggesting. No one has said this, or implied this. Suggesting that folks are somehow BETTER for eating junk food is kinda silly, but no one has said it can't/isn't incorporated. Have they? (other than the OP again)Thinking that any food by itself will cause poor health is irrational. It's a fear that's exhibited by the term 'junk food'.
Pop tarts
Twinkles
Salad dressing
The McDonalds Menu
These are commonly associated with the label junk food among many others. They aren't. They're just food. Some are more nutrient sparse than others and they tend to be calorie dense but there's no reason that an intelligent, rational person can incorporate them into their diet if they want to and still maintain excellent physical health. Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.
That would be silly if that's what I'd said. Since that's not what I said, I suggest you stop implying and adding information to my post that didn't exist.
Also, my post was in response to the op not anyone else. Please don't fall into the trap of thinking that my post was directed at you or your mind's ability misinterpret other people's posts.
Let me clear it up for you (and this one is directed at you). People who eat 'junk' food aren't better than people who chose not to. They are just people who don't feel the need to attribute ridiculous terms to food. They are just people who eat food. They don't feel superior for their choices in food and they don't feel the need to tell other people that what they are eating is junk.0 -
Thanks for clarifying. I was basing my comment on this:
With the exception of the OP I haven't seen anyone say anything like what you're suggesting. No one has said this, or implied this. Suggesting that folks are somehow BETTER for eating junk food is kinda silly, but no one has said it can't/isn't incorporated. Have they? (other than the OP again)Thinking that any food by itself will cause poor health is irrational. It's a fear that's exhibited by the term 'junk food'.
Pop tarts
Twinkles
Salad dressing
The McDonalds Menu
These are commonly associated with the label junk food among many others. They aren't. They're just food. Some are more nutrient sparse than others and they tend to be calorie dense but there's no reason that an intelligent, rational person can incorporate them into their diet if they want to and still maintain excellent physical health. Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.
That would be silly if that's what I'd said. Since that's not what I said, I suggest you stop implying and adding information to my post that didn't exist.
Also, my post was in response to the op not anyone else. Please don't fall into the trap of thinking that my post was directed at you or your mind's ability misinterpret other people's posts.
Let me clear it up for you (and this one is directed at you). People who eat 'junk' food aren't better than people who chose not to. They are just people who don't feel the need to attribute ridiculous terms to food. They are just people who eat food. They don't feel superior for their choices in food and they don't feel the need to tell other people that what they are eating is junk.Maybe even their mental health will excel as well since they won't be getting anxious about any foods unlike their counterparts who spend their time worrying about whether or not they are putting potentially health ruining junk into their bodies.
I didn't think you were speaking to me (in your original post) thus the reason I referred to the thread as a whole, and the OP specifically.0 -
I'm better than people who don't eat junk food.0
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I like you.For me, "junk" food is anything I eat that makes it difficult to balance my macros inside my calorie target.0 -
No nutritional value0
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"A fictitious label placed on a food to erroneously suggest that said food is somehow deleterious to ones health".0
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No nutritional value
What foods have no nutritional value?0 -
Junk Food - noun: any edible item once considered food that is found in a garbage can, dumpster, or other refuse container0
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Anything that the FDA says is good for me I'll stay away from. Money buys a food's healthy status in USA! Just stick to organic meats n veggies n you'll be free of any "junk food"0
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But the FDA says organic meat and veggies are good for you... Nothing can be labeled organic without USDA approval.Anything that the FDA says is good for me I'll stay away from. Money buys a food's healthy status in USA! Just stick to organic meats n veggies n you'll be free of any "junk food"0 -
Just read the OPs profile and now understand where this post comes from. Zealotry.
To say oil on a salad is "junk food" is completely ridiculous. I don't find it necessary to back that up with any kind of argument because, well, duh!
I guess my question to the OP is, why do you care what anyone else thinks "junk food" is? Personally, I never post on the forums asking people to look at my diary and advise me or tell me what I am doing "wrong." I don't need the validation of strangers to get through the day.0 -
Firstly, I'd like to say I disagree that oil on a salad is "junk food". But on the other hand, I also think its silly to say that no "junk food" exists. There are plenty of foods that people enjoy and like and eat, simply because IT TASTES GOOD, not for any other reason. I love Krispy Kreme donuts, the glazed ones, hot and fresh. Are they junk food? YES. But I will occasionally indulge and enjoy them.
I think the point is that some foods are made for the pure enjoyment, such as pies, cakes, etc. People eat for PLEASURE. I think it's also silly to say that calling this food "junk" is somehow demonizing it. I my opinion, it doesn't.
It's not like that label is new, or that a few over zealous MFP users made it up, its been around for years, I mean seriously, have we become so PC that we can't call junk food "junk food"??? Come on, people. It doesn't mean we cut all "junk food" out of our diets. Most just have to monitor their treats or "junk food". I even have a category for my "junk food". Its my evening snacks/treats.0 -
But the FDA says organic meat and veggies are good for you... Nothing can be labeled organic without USDA approval.Anything that the FDA says is good for me I'll stay away from. Money buys a food's healthy status in USA! Just stick to organic meats n veggies n you'll be free of any "junk food"
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Junk foods are high in fat, sugar, sodium, which causes obesity and a range of attendant health problems. Junk food is very tastier than healthy food so that why we love junk food. Junk food affect your energy level as well as it contributed in your poor performance and obesity. Eating too much junk food can make you uncomfortable.
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