Why Dieting is the Worst Way to Lose Weight
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If this was my stance, then I'd probably be jobless. While there might be limitations of flexibility/movement or paralysis, EVERYONE can do some resistance training.Ultimately, some people are too large to weight train. Cutting calories has to be done by everyone who's goal is to cut before they build muscle. While the article makes some strong points, there are people who are taking years off their life by eating too much food.
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Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
I'm sure you do look amazing but did you ever wonder if and how much LBM you sacrificed in the process if you didn't track it?
Exactly. LBM increases your metabolism, so you don't have to eat at such a crazy, attitude-destroying deficit. Who wants to spend their life eating 1200 calories and being cranky all the time, really?0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing aren't the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
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Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
I'm sure you do look amazing but did you ever wonder if and how much LBM you sacrificed in the process if you didn't track it?
Exactly. LBM increases your metabolism, so you don't have to eat at such a crazy, attitude-destroying deficit. Who wants to spend their life eating 1200 calories and being cranky all the time, really?
No, dear, you misunderstand. I was a b___ long before I decided to lose weight. Decades before. :devil:0 -
Ultimately, some people are too large to weight train. Cutting calories has to be done by everyone who's goal is to cut before they build muscle. While the article makes some strong points, there are people who are taking years off their life by eating too much food.
Coming from a guy that used to be 365lbs I'd say weight training is one of the easier things to do if you're heavy compared to most cardio exercises. As far as calorie restriction, the author doesn't really say it isn't needed or helpful but rather simply says good nutrition is only one part of fat loss.0 -
I lost weight without exercise or weight training after my 2nd kid. I looked fine, I don't think I was skinny fat.
I look better now though (in my opinion).0 -
I'm sure you do look amazing but did you ever wonder if and how much LBM you sacrificed in the process if you didn't track it?
Well, since there's less of me to cart around, I don't really need as much "LBM" to do that carting around, now do I? And you're acting like it's a foregone conclusion that I'm "skinny fat"—whatever that's supposed to mean. I am able to walk, talk, and do everything else just as well as I could before I lost weight, so if I lost a bit of muscle mass in the process, I don't miss it. :drinker:
what about things further down the line?
osteoporosis?
I'm already pretty far down the line, I'm old as f__. So far so good, I think genetics plays a much larger role than anything else in that regard. Plus, I eat plenty or protein and fat 'n such in all the junk food I throw down my gullet, so I don't think I need to worry. :bigsmile:
I um. ok then. it honestly scares me that you give out as much advice as you do. I have no problem with your diet and exercise habits (or lack thereof), but the fact that you encourage others to follow the same practices is alarming. best of luck to you though.
Oh, alarming, is it? Well, not as alarming as telling someone who is not losing weight to just eat more calories until they start losing (hint: if you're not losing weight, the problem isn't that you're eating too few calories, it's that you're not counting input and output properly, but whatever, details, right?).
Here's the thing. Not everyone who sets out to lose weight is a chipper, perky little dynamo with willpower to spare, who is eager to make a suite of drastic lifestyle changes all at once. Some of us have really demanding jobs and social lives that don't really make a lot of room for a complete diet overhaul, a stringent workout regimen, and oh, by the way, if you can spare a few moments to track your calories and eat at a deficit it might help. The calorie deficit is pooh-poohed, downplayed, marginalized and dismissed around here, but it is literally the ONLY thing you HAVE to do in order to LOSE WEIGHT. I know this, because it's the ONLY thing I did. And I'm a half pound away from my goal weight.
Yeah, exercise is fine for health or whatever. Fitness, strength, all that jazz. But that's really not about losing weight. I mean, I seem to have lost weight as rapidly as any gymrat around here, and I feel perfectly fine. If I wanted to, now that I'm close to maintenance, I could start to introduce a little exercise into my life, and I might try yoga or something. But that's a separate goal from losing weight, and I figured that it would be better to accomplish one feat before tackling another. And honestly, I don't think I need a whole heck of a lot of toning, I'm pretty fortunate that my everyday activity keeps me at least somewhat toned.
So yeah, judge us lazy calorie counters all you want. We're laughing all the way to the scale. :drinker:
I agree with you-it was too overwhelming for me to work on weight loss and also start exercising at the same time (I had never purposely exercised before, at that point). I focused on calories and lost the weight without exercising. After I hit maintenance I did start walking and then added a bit of running, mostly because I wanted to tighten up my calves.
Now the weather is crappy so I have started an at home body strength program this week. Mostly because I need a new goal to work towards. However, my profile pictures are from this past weekend, before I started strength training, and I think I look pretty good. I actually don't know if strength training will positivley change my look, especially when I'm already happy with how I look now, but I'm willing to give it a try-maybe I'll be amazed by the transformation and start looking like a VS model
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I am not advocating for "clean eating". I eat plenty of food that would be considered "dirty" too. I just think the article is talking about semantics. I agree diet can be interpreted as the kinds of foods you are consuming but come on....IMO going on a "diet" is restricting calories and yes sometimes it means I experience feeling hungry. It is just the way it is. I don't need to call it something else to make me feel better about the process and calling it a "nutrition program" is not going to make me miraculously keep the weight off.
Calling it a diet will not either. Diet is not just a word for a restriction in cals... I mean body builders eat above their calorie needs to build size are also on a "diet". Point is diet is not only for a restriction of food. Example... a nutritionist will ask you on the first consult, "What is your diet on a daily basis". This is saying what foods do you put in your mouth...over or under daily caloric needs, wouldn't you say?0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
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But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"0 -
I look better now though (in my opinion).
And you be right
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I lost weight without exercise or weight training after my 2nd kid. I looked fine, I don't think I was skinny fat.
I look better now though (in my opinion).
yes. lovely in each photo.0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:
Holy *kitten*....all in one day? You're an animal.0 -
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
I actually agree with you there. I've never been more ripped than when I trimmed horse's hooves for a living. Now there is a real calorie burning workout, trust me!
I'm perfectly happy to run and throw my kettlebell around. I did enjoy weights when I did them. But found I needed to eat an annoying amount of food to keep my weight and strength up. Hmmm.....actually I miss having to eat annoying amounts of food...0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:
I do that too. 0 -
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Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:
Holy *kitten*....all in one day? You're an animal.
Yep. Hear me roar. :bigsmile:0 -
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Not exercises. Those are chores. Sure you may get a slight calorie burn doing them but let's not try to call them exercises.
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Didn't say you had to get into a gym to do it. The quote was "without exercise". My point was that if someone thinks that losing weight without any physical activity will result in the same as one with physical activity, they'd of course be wrong. The physical activity you've mentioned takes work, and if you've seen any of my posts I am a big proponent of N.E.A.T for people who don't hit the gym.
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:
Holy *kitten*....all in one day? You're an animal.
I forgot "crack pecans with my thighs" and "make pralines with cracked pecans" :laugh:0 -
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Not exercises. Those are chores. Sure you may get a slight calorie burn doing them but let's not try to call them exercises.
To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to. :huh:0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:
Holy *kitten*....all in one day? You're an animal.
I forgot "crack pecans with my thighs" and "make pralines with cracked pecans" :laugh:
Mmmmm, pecan pralines...
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Not "exercises" in terms of having to execute perfect form, but it's still physical activity that can be demanding. I know this full well from shoveling snow.Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Not exercises. Those are chores. Sure you may get a slight calorie burn doing them but let's not try to call them exercises.
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:
Holy *kitten*....all in one day? You're an animal.
Yep. Hear me roar. :bigsmile:
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Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Not exercises. Those are chores. Sure you may get a slight calorie burn doing them but let's not try to call them exercises.
Tell ya what; do those things... rake the leaves in an average sized lawn then follow up with push-mowing the lawn without the self-propelled feature.
see what you say then, k?0 -
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Not exercises. Those are chores. Sure you may get a slight calorie burn doing them but let's not try to call them exercises.
There are some physical laborers who do heavy "chores" all day and they look just as good as some professional athletes.0 -
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Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Not exercises. Those are chores. Sure you may get a slight calorie burn doing them but let's not try to call them exercises.
I wouldn't call it a "slight" calorie burn. When I used to wear my BMF, I'd get a TDEE of about 2200 while at work and 2900 when doing "chores" all day on the weekend. 700 isn't "slight". Lifting weights burns about 100 calories. Non-exercise activity thermogenesis is a very important part of health, fitness and weight loss and shouldn't be neglected. Also, I don't work out to "burn calories". I work out to increase strength, preserve muscle, and improve cardio endurance.0 -
Looking amazing and being physically amazing are the same thing. While I don't doubt that you did it without exercise, don't think that doing it that way was a better way.Ah, more gymrat/"nutrition" evangelism. Fail. :huh:
I lost weight through a calorie deficit, eating "dirty" food, with ZERO exercise, and I look amazing. So this author can take a flying leap. :smokin:
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But here's the rub...
One does not have to be "physically amazing" to be fit.
If my goal was to be "physically amazing", then I would "train" like an athlete to reach a particular goal... "train" my muscles to lift a certain amount, etc.
And I realize that it's your bread and butter here, but it gets annoying, honestly, to have gym people always beating us over the head to "get in the gym and hit the weights" or you'll be "skinny fat"...
that's absolute crap.
Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Frankly, I'm tempted to tell people who want to tell me to "get in the gym" to "get out and do some manual labor"
My workout regimen is "take the stairs two at a time" and "park far away from the entrance". :bigsmile:
Holy *kitten*....all in one day? You're an animal.
Yep. Hear me roar. :bigsmile:
I'm more velociraptor than T. Rex, but yeah, that's the basic idea. :bigsmile:0 -
Not "exercises" in terms of having to execute perfect form, but it's still physical activity that can be demanding. I know this full well from shoveling snow.Rake leaves, mow the damn lawn, shovel snow, repair a fence, climb up on the roof and clean out the gutters... the list goes on and on.
All great exercise.
Not exercises. Those are chores. Sure you may get a slight calorie burn doing them but let's not try to call them exercises.
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IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
sorry I unloaded on you.
you're actually a good one.
And for someone not seeking "perfection", it's a damn good "chore" , huh?0
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