Clean Eating
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And wow. Why all the hostility?
I just wanted to gain a general idea of where to begin and see how you guys do it. There's really no need for smart *kitten* answers.
Because as soon as someone mentions clean eating the IIFYM crowd comes out in full force to defend their diet.. it's silly really. No one has to agree with your choices. Just do what is right for you, what helps you reach your goals, in a healthy way and ignore the haters. :~)
Do you know what IIFYM is? Because it sounds like you really don't.
sigh. i do. but i'm not getting into this again.And for those who are for it, many (many, many) definitions of it.
I think we should start naming the variations of it like vegetarians do. Like one name for clean eaters, another for clean sans dairy another for organic clean eater.. etc.. lol it's just the label they object to and the lack of a "proper" definition really. since most of those who speak out against it really eat clean and then throw in doritos or snickers occasionally. Supposed to support each other, not shame each other for choosing to eat a certain way. Esp when that chosen path is a healthy one.
I believe the whole "avoid white food" thing came about long before clean eating was anything. I remember in highschool girls telling me that potatoes are unhealthy and to avoid them. I don't eat white rice because it's bleached, stripped of it's nutrients and then the nutrients are added back in, has nothing to do with color. I'll eat a potato sometimes because they are from nature. Nothing wrong with them, except they are a starch and sometimes you need to cut back on how many starchy veggies you eat.even nutrient dense whole foods like colored veggies.
It was right here in this thread though...some clean eater actually demonizing veggies that have color like red bell peppers and such because of sugar. Demonizing food in general is ridiculous...but demonizing nutrient dense whole foods is like epic ridiculousness.
Also, if you understood IIFYM you would understand that you don't just eat all the potatoes...they wouldn't fit into your macros...so yes...you would have to cut back on starchy veggies to fit your macro requirements...but not because potatoes are the devil.
Yes, these are the so-called "clean" eaters that get "eaten up" by IIFYMers. Demonizing whole foods that are unprocessed, no "chemicals" added, etc. is called orthorexia.0 -
The only "unclean" foods for me are fried foods and Oreo cookies.0
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How are you able to include ice cream every day!!?? I definitely need that secret in my life! lol Is there something else that you have to completely cut out? Please let me know!
I maintain an reasonable calorie goal, meet my nutrition and macronutrient needs during the day, and then sometimes have ice cream at night with my leftover calories. other times it's bourbon. I know, how unclean of me. I actually do eat about 80% "clean" (dependent entirely on your personal definition of "clean") but the majority of people who follow IIFYM do as well.
^This. And why is ice cream so "unclean"? I mean really. Here's the list of ingredients from one of my favorites - Haagen-Dazs Cappucino Gelato -
skim milk, cream, corn syrup, sugar, egg yolks, coffee, pectin. contains: milk and egg ingredients
Or Talenti Gelato Double Dark Chocolate
milk, sugar, chocolate, cream, eggs, dextrose, cocoa, vermouth, carob gum, soy lecithin, vanilla
Are all of those ingredients in their natural state?0 -
How are you able to include ice cream every day!!?? I definitely need that secret in my life! lol Is there something else that you have to completely cut out? Please let me know!
I maintain an reasonable calorie goal, meet my nutrition and macronutrient needs during the day, and then sometimes have ice cream at night with my leftover calories. other times it's bourbon. I know, how unclean of me. I actually do eat about 80% "clean" (dependent entirely on your personal definition of "clean") but the majority of people who follow IIFYM do as well.
^This. And why is ice cream so "unclean"? I mean really. Here's the list of ingredients from one of my favorites - Haagen-Dazs Cappucino Gelato -
skim milk, cream, corn syrup, sugar, egg yolks, coffee, pectin. contains: milk and egg ingredients
Or Talenti Gelato Double Dark Chocolate
milk, sugar, chocolate, cream, eggs, dextrose, cocoa, vermouth, carob gum, soy lecithin, vanilla
Are all of those ingredients in their natural state?
Cooking eggs takes them from their natural state so those aren't clean...which means OMG, RUNNNNN!!!! Right?
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How are you able to include ice cream every day!!?? I definitely need that secret in my life! lol Is there something else that you have to completely cut out? Please let me know!
I maintain an reasonable calorie goal, meet my nutrition and macronutrient needs during the day, and then sometimes have ice cream at night with my leftover calories. other times it's bourbon. I know, how unclean of me. I actually do eat about 80% "clean" (dependent entirely on your personal definition of "clean") but the majority of people who follow IIFYM do as well.
^This. And why is ice cream so "unclean"? I mean really. Here's the list of ingredients from one of my favorites - Haagen-Dazs Cappucino Gelato -
skim milk, cream, corn syrup, sugar, egg yolks, coffee, pectin. contains: milk and egg ingredients
Or Talenti Gelato Double Dark Chocolate
milk, sugar, chocolate, cream, eggs, dextrose, cocoa, vermouth, carob gum, soy lecithin, vanilla
Are all of those ingredients in their natural state?
Cooking eggs takes them from their natural state so those aren't clean...which means OMG, RUNNNNN!!!! Right?
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No, but you already knew that. Cooking is not an igredient.
If that were true (cooking = not clean) how would running help? Exercise off the bad stuff?0 -
How are you able to include ice cream every day!!?? I definitely need that secret in my life! lol Is there something else that you have to completely cut out? Please let me know!
I maintain an reasonable calorie goal, meet my nutrition and macronutrient needs during the day, and then sometimes have ice cream at night with my leftover calories. other times it's bourbon. I know, how unclean of me. I actually do eat about 80% "clean" (dependent entirely on your personal definition of "clean") but the majority of people who follow IIFYM do as well.
^This. And why is ice cream so "unclean"? I mean really. Here's the list of ingredients from one of my favorites - Haagen-Dazs Cappucino Gelato -
skim milk, cream, corn syrup, sugar, egg yolks, coffee, pectin. contains: milk and egg ingredients
Or Talenti Gelato Double Dark Chocolate
milk, sugar, chocolate, cream, eggs, dextrose, cocoa, vermouth, carob gum, soy lecithin, vanilla
Are all of those ingredients in their natural state?
Cooking eggs takes them from their natural state so those aren't clean...which means OMG, RUNNNNN!!!! Right?
Edited to correct typo
No, but you already knew that. Cooking is not an igredient.
If that were true (cooking = not clean) how would running help? Exercise off the bad stuff?
Huh? What are you even talking about now?
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Anyway, I want to start eating clean but I have no idea what that entails.
Why would you want to do something when you don't even know what that something is?0 -
How are you able to include ice cream every day!!?? I definitely need that secret in my life! lol Is there something else that you have to completely cut out? Please let me know!
I maintain an reasonable calorie goal, meet my nutrition and macronutrient needs during the day, and then sometimes have ice cream at night with my leftover calories. other times it's bourbon. I know, how unclean of me. I actually do eat about 80% "clean" (dependent entirely on your personal definition of "clean") but the majority of people who follow IIFYM do as well.
^This. And why is ice cream so "unclean"? I mean really. Here's the list of ingredients from one of my favorites - Haagen-Dazs Cappucino Gelato -
skim milk, cream, corn syrup, sugar, egg yolks, coffee, pectin. contains: milk and egg ingredients
Or Talenti Gelato Double Dark Chocolate
milk, sugar, chocolate, cream, eggs, dextrose, cocoa, vermouth, carob gum, soy lecithin, vanilla
Are all of those ingredients in their natural state?
Cooking eggs takes them from their natural state so those aren't clean...which means OMG, RUNNNNN!!!! Right?
Edited to correct typo
No, but you already knew that. Cooking is not an igredient.
If that were true (cooking = not clean) how would running help? Exercise off the bad stuff?
Huh? What are you even talking about now?
You said cooked eggs weren't clean, which means run. I can't figure out how running fits in.0 -
Im sure this has been stated somewhere in the thread but the term "Clean Eating" has different meanings for different people. IMO it is eating to your specific goal and to consume as much unprocessed foods as you can. Eating as much fresh foods IMO is clean eating.0
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You should check out this website... I subscribe to the magazine, but this site has thousands of recipes, articles and ideas on how to eat clean. I love their recipes and so do my kids and husband.
http://www.cleaneatingmag.com/0 -
How are you able to include ice cream every day!!?? I definitely need that secret in my life! lol Is there something else that you have to completely cut out? Please let me know!
I maintain an reasonable calorie goal, meet my nutrition and macronutrient needs during the day, and then sometimes have ice cream at night with my leftover calories. other times it's bourbon. I know, how unclean of me. I actually do eat about 80% "clean" (dependent entirely on your personal definition of "clean") but the majority of people who follow IIFYM do as well.
^This. And why is ice cream so "unclean"? I mean really. Here's the list of ingredients from one of my favorites - Haagen-Dazs Cappucino Gelato -
skim milk, cream, corn syrup, sugar, egg yolks, coffee, pectin. contains: milk and egg ingredients
Or Talenti Gelato Double Dark Chocolate
milk, sugar, chocolate, cream, eggs, dextrose, cocoa, vermouth, carob gum, soy lecithin, vanilla
Are all of those ingredients in their natural state?
Cooking eggs takes them from their natural state so those aren't clean...which means OMG, RUNNNNN!!!! Right?
Edited to correct typo
No, but you already knew that. Cooking is not an igredient.
If that were true (cooking = not clean) how would running help? Exercise off the bad stuff?
Huh? What are you even talking about now?
You said cooked eggs weren't clean, which means run. I can't figure out how running fits in.
Oh wow. Just....wow..
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A potato is not bad for you, but enriched white rice is.
3 billion Asians just looked at their kids math scores vs western kids math scores, and facepalmed.0 -
Cooking is not an igredient.
It is, however, a chemical process.0 -
Oh how I just can't wait for the NEXT clean eating thread to pop up...
Eat what you like as long as it gets you closer to your goals...
"Eat less, stress less, move more, lift more and get a good nights sleep. For physical health, that's pretty much as good as it gets." –Brad Pilon, Eat Stop Eat"0 -
Google: "5 ingredient rule"
Wash your veggies and fruits before eating - and tend to eat them raw.
Avoid sugars! Avoid "white" starches such as breads, rice, pastas and potatoes. Understand "glycemic index."
Chew your food thoroughly before swallowing! Not enough can be said about this. Mastication and salivary digestion are extremely important.
Eat when you are hungry. Don't eat just because it is time to eat, nor snack to prevent or soothe cravings. Snacking when you are not hungry will cause your insulin to spike. Along these same lines, tend to eat foods with a high glycemic index only after working out.
Get to know the "Michi's Ladder" which is easily found in a Google search. Stay on tiers 1 and 2 and occasionally 3. Avoid tiers 4 and 5 unless you do "cheat days." Remember, Tiers 1 and 2 are foods that make you healthier, Tier 3 is neutral, and Tiers 4 and 5 make you unhealthier.
How can you avoid sugars but also recommend fruits and veggies? Hello cognitive dissonance
In...
...for all sugar = bad, except fruit sugar = good.
(Later - request chemical composition of each.)0 -
There are a million sets of rules for clean eating. It really depends on who you ask. I recommend doing one of two things, find a clean eating guru to follow, or make up your own arbitrary rules about what eating clean means to you. That seems to be what I've seen more often than not. Good luck finding something you like.0
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Clean eating = never go a2.....nm. This is not what I was expecting.0
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Clean eating = never go a2.....nm. This is not what I was expecting.
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Good for you for trying to learn about something that interests you. Unfortunately many people hate the pure mention of the phrase clean eating, but it IS arbitrary and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. Many people who eat their definition of clean, myself included, can't say they don't chow down on something on their "bad" list time and again. It's personal preference and what works for you. What most clean eaters can all agree on is more fruits and vegetables and less food from a bag or box with a lot of ingredients you can't pronounce. But that's completely up to you. What is most important is that you can live with the diet you choose and if it makes you feel good to eat apples and spinach and antibiotic free chicken all day, go for it and be proud! If you really like ice cream and you want to fit that in too, go for it! I personally can't eat certain foods without binging my brains out because I have weak self control so I try to stick to fruits and vegetables and treats that are yummy but don't make me want to eat 3000 calories worth.
Best of luck to you!0 -
Clean eating = never go a2.....nm. This is not what I was expecting.
that's where my 20% dirty comes from0 -
Clean eating = never go a2.....nm. This is not what I was expecting.
that's where my 20% dirty comes from
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Just wash all of your food before you eat it to ensure that it is clean0
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Clean eating = never go a2.....nm. This is not what I was expecting.
that's where my 20% dirty comes from
And you're about to get a crap ton *no pun intended* of FR lol0 -
Clean eating = never go a2.....nm. This is not what I was expecting.
that's where my 20% dirty comes from
Lol strong everything0 -
Are all of those ingredients in their natural state?
This is the one spot where I call silliness/shenanigans/whatever.
What, exactly, is the difference between cooking/eating ingredients separately, in their natural states, and letting them mix in your stomach - vs. whisking the ingredients together, cooking them together, and eating them together?0 -
Just make a list of foods that you declare to be bad (you don't even need a reason why), and don't eat them.
Boom. You're eating clean.
That about sums the whole thing up
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Hello friends! I hope you all are having a wonderful day.
Anyway, I want to start eating clean but I have no idea what that entails. So, for those of you who are eating clean, do you mind giving me some tips please?
Thanks!
This is what I eat:
Meats: chicken breast, 93% fat free turkey and beef.
Vegetables: all except for white, stachy ones. never canned ones, only fresh or frozen.
Fruits: all fresh fruit except for very high glycemic ones. i make an exception with bananas for post-workout with protein.
Nuts: all of 'em
Condiments and oils: olive, coconut, apple cider vinegar
Other: quinoa, brown basmati rice, vegetarian protein powder, legumes (garbanzo beans and black beans, brown lentils)
What I don't eat: dairy, gluten, corn, soy, chocolate, diet drinks, artificial sweeteners, sugar (maple syrup, white sugar, agave, brown sugar, etc.), no pre-packaged meals, no microwaveable meals.
I cook everything from scratch and when I can't (tomato sauce for example), I buy organic, minimally processed, sodium free food.
I love how my food tastes and makes me feel, and so does my family ( have teenagers).0 -
Anyway, I want to start eating clean but I have no idea what that entails.
..... Then why do you want to do it??0 -
Theses are good:
Chicken Breast, Lean steak, pork, turkey
Salmon, cod, haddock, tuna, trout, scallops, prawns
Lots of green vegetables (keep coloured veg and fruit to minimum; they have a high sugar content)
Sweet potato, wholemeal bread, brown rice, lentils, chickpeas, mixed beans, quinoa
mustards, spices, chillis, herbs, olives
Olive oils, nut oils, fruit oil
These are Bad:
No sugar, chocolate (dark is ok if a little), cream, No low fat/fat free/healthy/ products
No ketchup, mayo, dressing or oil/sugar based sauces (packet sauces)
No Ice Cream or full fat milk.
Easier said than done, takes alot of imagination, but thats a clean diet right there!
I agree. "No sugar" and "no chocolate" and "no ice cream" are very, very bad.0 -
If you want to eat clean wash everything you want to eat. That way, it'll be clean when it goes into your mouth.0
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