How come models never lift heavy ?
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A large portion of it is genetics and body type. I have skinny legs. I've always had skinny legs. I have the thigh gap the teens are dreaming of. I don't do anything to have that, it's just there, always has been, my family says I have chicken legs.
My daughter is 6' but she has large hips and thighs. Always has had. She's athletic, fit and low BF% but she's never going to have skinny legs. Her cousin is the same height and has the build of the VS models. You stand them side by side and you have two totally different people just based on genetics. Neither of them work at having their "look", it just happened.
You make the best of what you have. Dress to accentuate your positives and be your best you. Don't waste your youth trying to look like someone else.0 -
We all have that one friend who eats whatever her or she wants as well as double the calories of everyone else but somehow manages to stay thin even with minimal, half-assed exercise. Genetics. :mad:
or you don't know how they eat when you're not around. I find it hard to believe genetics could magically gift the ability to eat all the food without gaining. I use to be that girl...then I got fat
There are some people who have naturally high metabolisms and really can eat anything they want, not exercise, and be super skinny. Most of the time this changes around 30 or so, but I have friends that are in their 50s and still are naturally skinny. Sugar seems to raisttheir metabolisms even higher. My Son inlaw is 5'6" and can barely keep 110 pounds on him. He lives on pizza and Mountain Dew, and very little physical activity. He is 29 and still trying to gain weight. His mother was the same way.
Ah, if only I had just a little bit of their problem!0 -
Models don't lift much (I say much because most trainers do have them doing resistance training but it tends to be more metcon oriented) because they have a contractual obligation to be a certain size. They starve themselves and do tons of cario to stay a certain size.
And then they get photoshopped.0 -
Because models are thin, not toned.0
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As far as your legs being thinner, lower your bodyfat, but some people just happen to hold more muscle/fat in their legs, and a "thigh gap" is genetic. I am generally bigger on the bottom, so instead of being upset that I don't have thin legs, I've worked my *kitten* off (or on) in the gym to shape them and turn my legs and butt into the thing that most of my friends envy and comment on. If you want to "slim down" change your diet and lower your body fat, that simple. Lifting heavy and eating a calorie surplus everyday is going to lead to a weight gain, in addition not getting enough protein in your diet isn't ideal for muscle growth and repair. I haven't looked at your diary so I have no clue what your diet looks like, but really, hit your calorie goals and macros and give it 8-12 weeks, take pictures and measurements and watch your body change.
I've been lifting for far more than 8 weeks, I am eating at a deficit, watching my macros and aiming for a protein-based diet. As a result, I've lost body fat (I'm at 17%) and I am now the proud owner of a skeletal upper body, ribs instead of boobs and abs (despite never having done an abs exercise in my life, lol), while my legs are confortably covered in a layer of fat and saddlebags. It's frustrating as hell and it's making me wonder if I should continue weightlifting at all. That's why I'm wondering if perhaps that high rep, low weight workout would leave me better off and slim down my legs or not.0 -
Ditto on the fact that the VS models have very low body fat levels. And Photoshop. If you wanted to get slimmer legs, lose body fat. That is, have a sensible calorific deficit. 'Saddlebags' are made of fat, not muscle.
VS models differ from other models I guess in that on top of having very low levels of body fat, they build up just enough muscle. At low levels of bf, you can see it quite clearly.
But, it is all bull because Photoshop Photoshop Photoshop.
And also, VS models will most likely be the kind of people that along with being very tall, can 'reasonably' sustain very low levels of bodyfat. And most likely be 'ectomorph's in bodyshape. So, it'll be 'easier' for them to have thin thighs because their bodies store fat differently (ectomorphs not really storing fat that much). For me, a pear shaped endomorph, the amount of work I'd need to put myself through to get my bodyfat levels down enough to where it leaves my thighs would be...well, it would be coffee and cigarettes and cotton wool balls soaked in orange juice. And I'd be dead on my feet.
Also, it means that if your body stores more fat in an area, say your thighs, then you're just gonna have to accept that if you want your thighs to be slimmer, you will just have to get your bodyfat lower. The weights aren't the issue here.
But, anyway, in answer to your question, it's body fat not muscle that will bring you 'slimmer legs'.0 -
A large portion of it is genetics and body type. I have skinny legs. I've always had skinny legs. I have the thigh gap the teens are dreaming of. I don't do anything to have that, it's just there, always has been, my family says I have chicken legs.
My daughter is 6' but she has large hips and thighs. Always has had. She's athletic, fit and low BF% but she's never going to have skinny legs. Her cousin is the same height and has the build of the VS models. You stand them side by side and you have two totally different people just based on genetics. Neither of them work at having their "look", it just happened.
You make the best of what you have. Dress to accentuate your positives and be your best you. Don't waste your youth trying to look like someone else.
this is spot on... seriously.
I'll never look like one of them- I'll always have thick thighs. But I'll be able to dead lift more than they will so I'm not particularly concerned- and I feel out other clothes that they could never dream of doing without padding (and yes- they pad)
They are not perfect. They are an idea pushed on us by fashion and media. But they do not represent the ultimate in women's physic and beauty.
that being said- I have just recently learned what this 'thigh gap' thing is and I think it's possibly one of the dumbest aesthetics anyone could ever shoot for- it's just so inconsequential and trivial- it has more to do with bone structure than fat content. It's just like saying you are going to work out and diet enough until you have Jody Foster's check bones.0 -
We all have that one friend who eats whatever her or she wants as well as double the calories of everyone else but somehow manages to stay thin even with minimal, half-assed exercise. Genetics. :mad:
or you don't know how they eat when you're not around. I find it hard to believe genetics could magically gift the ability to eat all the food without gaining. I use to be that girl...then I got fat
There are some people who have naturally high metabolisms and really can eat anything they want, not exercise, and be super skinny. Most of the time this changes around 30 or so, but I have friends that are in their 50s and still are naturally skinny. Sugar seems to raisttheir metabolisms even higher. My Son inlaw is 5'6" and can barely keep 110 pounds on him. He lives on pizza and Mountain Dew, and very little physical activity. He is 29 and still trying to gain weight. His mother was the same way.
Ah, if only I had just a little bit of their problem!
They don't eat as much as they think they do.
Variations in metabolism of course exist, but there isn't as extreme a range as many seem to think. Medical ailments complicate the issue somewhat, but even those can't trump thermodynamics.0 -
We all have that one friend who eats whatever her or she wants as well as double the calories of everyone else but somehow manages to stay thin even with minimal, half-assed exercise. Genetics. :mad:
or you don't know how they eat when you're not around. I find it hard to believe genetics could magically gift the ability to eat all the food without gaining. I use to be that girl...then I got fat
There are some people who have naturally high metabolisms and really can eat anything they want, not exercise, and be super skinny. Most of the time this changes around 30 or so, but I have friends that are in their 50s and still are naturally skinny. Sugar seems to raisttheir metabolisms even higher. My Son inlaw is 5'6" and can barely keep 110 pounds on him. He lives on pizza and Mountain Dew, and very little physical activity. He is 29 and still trying to gain weight. His mother was the same way.
Ah, if only I had just a little bit of their problem!
So, you know exactly what they eat all the time then? I have a guy friend who's 6' and 130 lbs. Whenever he was around, he'd pull out hamburgers from mcdonalds and drink copious amounts of Mt Dew. We all assumed he had a "fast metabolism" too. Until about 3 months ago when I told him I was calorie counting, so he took a day to tell me how much he ate throughout a day. 900 calories. Sure, that's not every day, but that's scary low. His weight is crazy low. I never knew it until I started getting into fitness and talking to him about it. He says he puts himself on a diet whenever his stomach touches his shirt. My friend has a problem and it was something I never would have guessed. I'm not saying that, that is the case for your story or for anyone who is "naturally skinny" but my point is you don't KNOW how they eat all the time. Metabolism isn't a magical "jo gaining weight" fairy. Everyone can get fat if they eat at a surplus.0 -
2 words. air brush
One more word...PhotoShop.0 -
"Perfect" is a super-subjective term.
There's a whole magazine industry of air-brushed pictures out there giving both men and women unhealthy and fictional paradigms. There are plenty of split pictures available online to show how photoshopped these pictures are.
I guess the magazines aren't peddling fit/healthy/strong yet. So the majority of joe/jane public doesn't identify with it as an ideal. Times and tastes change, so maybe this will too, who knows?
OP: you need to come to terms with how this has all been skewed and presented to you. There are no objectively "perfect" people. Only people who you may happen to find "perfect" given your personal taste and cultural environment.
I'm mostly talking about how the media portrays them. I don't think such models are perfect, my preferences are different and I wouldn't want to be that thin. I do admire how lean they are, though.
Also, not every single image of them is photoshopped. There are videos, candids, and such. Can't photoshop everything.
And for the record, I already have a thigh gap and I couldn't care less about it. I'm not aspiring to look like a model. I just want thinner legs because now, my upper body is disproportionately thin compared to my lower body. That's all.0 -
As far as your legs being thinner, lower your bodyfat, but some people just happen to hold more muscle/fat in their legs, and a "thigh gap" is genetic. I am generally bigger on the bottom, so instead of being upset that I don't have thin legs, I've worked my *kitten* off (or on) in the gym to shape them and turn my legs and butt into the thing that most of my friends envy and comment on. If you want to "slim down" change your diet and lower your body fat, that simple. Lifting heavy and eating a calorie surplus everyday is going to lead to a weight gain, in addition not getting enough protein in your diet isn't ideal for muscle growth and repair. I haven't looked at your diary so I have no clue what your diet looks like, but really, hit your calorie goals and macros and give it 8-12 weeks, take pictures and measurements and watch your body change.
I've been lifting for far more than 8 weeks, I am eating at a deficit, watching my macros and aiming for a protein-based diet. As a result, I've lost body fat (I'm at 17%) and I am now the proud owner of a skeletal upper body, ribs instead of boobs and abs (despite never having done an abs exercise in my life, lol), while my legs are confortably covered in a layer of fat and saddlebags. It's frustrating as hell and it's making me wonder if I should continue weightlifting at all. That's why I'm wondering if perhaps that high rep, low weight workout would leave me better off and slim down my legs or not.
Right,
I've just checked out your photos. You do not have "saddlebags" if those pics are representative of your current bf%. I would suggest becoming more comfortable with your body and stop trying to compare it to a fiction from a magazine.
You do realise that high rep/low rep is mostly meaningless in the context of a calorie deficit - you're just retaining lbm and losing fat (assuming your diet's in check, of course). You may as well stick with low rep and get stronger in a deficit, because you sure as hell won't be building muscle.0 -
As others have said, it's pretty much diet and not exercise for these models, and they are very, very light, like 110 lbs and very tall. Also, most of them, whatever their shape, have relatively long legs vs being long waisted. That makes a big difference. Even when I had "model measurements" (34-23-24) my legs did not look very skinny like that because they are relatively short.0
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This would be worth watching just to see exactly what these girls do to look like they do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW_AVPy_VeA
While I think the VS angels are beautiful, they do not look like that all year round.0 -
As far as your legs being thinner, lower your bodyfat, but some people just happen to hold more muscle/fat in their legs, and a "thigh gap" is genetic. I am generally bigger on the bottom, so instead of being upset that I don't have thin legs, I've worked my *kitten* off (or on) in the gym to shape them and turn my legs and butt into the thing that most of my friends envy and comment on. If you want to "slim down" change your diet and lower your body fat, that simple. Lifting heavy and eating a calorie surplus everyday is going to lead to a weight gain, in addition not getting enough protein in your diet isn't ideal for muscle growth and repair. I haven't looked at your diary so I have no clue what your diet looks like, but really, hit your calorie goals and macros and give it 8-12 weeks, take pictures and measurements and watch your body change.
I've been lifting for far more than 8 weeks, I am eating at a deficit, watching my macros and aiming for a protein-based diet. As a result, I've lost body fat (I'm at 17%) and I am now the proud owner of a skeletal upper body, ribs instead of boobs and abs (despite never having done an abs exercise in my life, lol), while my legs are confortably covered in a layer of fat and saddlebags. It's frustrating as hell and it's making me wonder if I should continue weightlifting at all. That's why I'm wondering if perhaps that high rep, low weight workout would leave me better off and slim down my legs or not.
And that's totally my body too. I've had collar bones and a visible rib cage for ages, despite having plenty of chub on my belly, butt and thighs... But it's just how my body stores fat, and if I want slimmer thighs then I'm just gonna have to take the fact that my rib cage will show.
However, building muscle can help with those 'skeletal' areas and balance things out.0 -
A large portion of it is genetics and body type. I have skinny legs. I've always had skinny legs. I have the thigh gap the teens are dreaming of. I don't do anything to have that, it's just there, always has been, my family says I have chicken legs.
My daughter is 6' but she has large hips and thighs. Always has had. She's athletic, fit and low BF% but she's never going to have skinny legs. Her cousin is the same height and has the build of the VS models. You stand them side by side and you have two totally different people just based on genetics. Neither of them work at having their "look", it just happened.
You make the best of what you have. Dress to accentuate your positives and be your best you. Don't waste your youth trying to look like someone else.
This, absolutely.0 -
As far as your legs being thinner, lower your bodyfat, but some people just happen to hold more muscle/fat in their legs, and a "thigh gap" is genetic. I am generally bigger on the bottom, so instead of being upset that I don't have thin legs, I've worked my *kitten* off (or on) in the gym to shape them and turn my legs and butt into the thing that most of my friends envy and comment on. If you want to "slim down" change your diet and lower your body fat, that simple. Lifting heavy and eating a calorie surplus everyday is going to lead to a weight gain, in addition not getting enough protein in your diet isn't ideal for muscle growth and repair. I haven't looked at your diary so I have no clue what your diet looks like, but really, hit your calorie goals and macros and give it 8-12 weeks, take pictures and measurements and watch your body change.
I've been lifting for far more than 8 weeks, I am eating at a deficit, watching my macros and aiming for a protein-based diet. As a result, I've lost body fat (I'm at 17%) and I am now the proud owner of a skeletal upper body, ribs instead of boobs and abs (despite never having done an abs exercise in my life, lol), while my legs are confortably covered in a layer of fat and saddlebags. It's frustrating as hell and it's making me wonder if I should continue weightlifting at all. That's why I'm wondering if perhaps that high rep, low weight workout would leave me better off and slim down my legs or not.
Im just a little worried about you being "a proud owner of a skeletal upper body and ribs instead of boobs"? You really shouldnt be aiming for body fat any lower than 17%, you currently have the same body fat as most athletes. Are you wanting to be healthier or skinnier?0 -
You have absolutely nothing posted in your diary - food or exercise. At least not for the past few weeks. After a few weeks, I didn't bother looking anymore.
My guess? And it's only a guess, since there's no evidence, you're doing something completely wrong with regards to your food, exercise, or both.
As such, what does your lifting routine look like? How much (and what, I suppose) are you eating?0 -
And that's totally my body too. I've had collar bones and a visible rib cage for ages, despite having plenty of chub on my belly, butt and thighs... But it's just how my body stores fat, and if I want slimmer thighs then I'm just gonna have to take the fact that my rib cage will show.
However, building muscle can help with those 'skeletal' areas and balance things out.
I feel like several rounds of cutting and bulking will help push the general body fat down- and evens people out a little more. But I could just be musing random useless thoughts.
(I am bottom heavy as well- and I'm assuming that after 2 rounds of actual forced cut/bulk- my legs WILL get more definition... but it's a fight- no question about it)0 -
Lol @ the idea that the workouts listed in Shape magazine actually represent what the models actually do or eat. Almost every word in those mags is a fiction created by a PR person to portray a certain image.
Anyhoo, you're comparing people that are genetically gifted to look a certain way to people that aren't. Models are born, not created in a gym. They may eat and train in a way that maximizes their genetics but it wasn't exercise that made them 6 feet tall with short muscle bellys.0 -
I agree. You look pretty much like you've got 99% of this 'ideal body' you aspire to, and the other 1% is genetics. And that's what you see is the 1%.I've just checked out your photos. You do not have "saddlebags" if those pics are representative of your current bf%. I would suggest becoming more comfortable with your body and stop trying to compare it to a fiction from a magazine.0 -
To the OP. It's part body type, part genetics, and the rest is diet and exercising to meet your goals. The VS models have what some describe as an ectomorph body type, which is naturally taller and slender. You have that body type and so do I. You look beautiful right now. If your goal is to look more like a VS model then you probably don't need to focus on lifting heavy. Our muscles respond to resistance, even walking, running,yoga and Pilates provides resistance. Body weight exercises are amazing for providing an amazing sculpted strong body.
I personally prefer looking more like a fitness model so I'm eating at a surplus and lifting heavy four days a week. The drawback to the ectomorph body type is that we can actually have a hard time putting on muscle, which is what I'm dealing with right now.
Like others have said, you are beautiful right now, you actually already look like a VS model. Just exercise in the way that provides the results you want. But in your desire to become better, never stop loving and appreciating who you are right now.0 -
And that's totally my body too. I've had collar bones and a visible rib cage for ages, despite having plenty of chub on my belly, butt and thighs... But it's just how my body stores fat, and if I want slimmer thighs then I'm just gonna have to take the fact that my rib cage will show.
However, building muscle can help with those 'skeletal' areas and balance things out.
I feel like several rounds of cutting and bulking will help push the general body fat down- and evens people out a little more. But I could just be musing random useless thoughts.
(I am bottom heavy as well- and I'm assuming that after 2 rounds of actual forced cut/bulk- my legs WILL get more definition... but it's a fight- no question about it)
I agree! I'm on a general first 'cut' right now. Then after that, some gentle bulking and cutting next year and we'll see where I stand.
Though...will building up my chest muscles take the edge off my ribcage? (That's a weird sentence...)
I've found it more preferable to find inspirational pictures on Tumblr and Pinterest of people who are cut but also have generally bigger thighs.0 -
You have two options, be re-born in a VS model's body.I want to have thin legs; which kind of exercises should I do ? And how come those women look so perfect despite never lifting heavy (which supposedly is the one and only way to get lean according to all the fitness enthusiasts on the internet) ?
Get a REAL idea of body image and stop expecting to look like an airbrushed model. This my issue with most fashion models, people want to look like them and destroy their OWN beauty trying to achieve the look of something that is just not genetically possible, unless you are a cartoon.0 -
Honestly? All the photoshop you guys are talking about is just used to make VS models appear softer, with more even skin, sometimes a fake-looking background. Sometimes they change the colors of the *kitten* they're wearing. The retouching DOESN'T alter their bodies that much. Sorry if that makes everyone feel bad, but that's what it is: http://jezebel.com/5951863/when-perfect-isnt-enough-the-unretouched-images-victorias-secret-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
It IS genetics. These women are built tall, much taller than the average woman, & they are thin. They'd be "skinny fat" I guess, if they didn't eat right & work out, but the reality is that it's MOSTLY genetics.
And OP, if you're "skeletal" up top, & still thicker on the bottom, that's just how your body works. You carry more fat on your bottom & legs. If you want to try the more reps, lower weight thing, by all means go for it, but don't fool yourself into thinking your legs will get super lean like VS models.
I'm sure you are beautiful as you are; just focus on being healthy & working with your body
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apparently, VS models, which are hailed as being the most perfect bodies on Earth and the absolute ideal, never ever touch any weights.
I disagree with this statement. I do NOT think they are the perfect bodies. Skinny legs and arms are not "perfect" to me. I want to see muscle definition, and size. There isn't just one definition of "perfect". Everyone has their own opinion.
Also they probably do touch weights.0 -
Your legs aren't fat, and your upper body isn't "skeletal." You may need to see a therapist, because you have obvious body dysmorphia issues.0
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Meh. I see a Victoria's secret model and I want to feed her a cheeseburger. I don't think it looks healthy.0
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Thanks, dear
I don't wanna look like a VS model, I just want slightly thinner legs and I don't know how to achieve that.
Calorie deficit.0 -
Hello, everyone. I have a dilemma: apparently, VS models, which are hailed as being the most perfect bodies on Earth and the absolute ideal, never ever touch any weights.
*Your* ideal maybe. VS models are not my absolute ideal. Everyone has different preferences for their bodies.
Some things to consider:
1. VS models (and all models really) probably do have some genetic component that helps them stay so lean.
2. They have very low body fat percentages. This can be achieved through strict dieting. I guess if my livelihood depended on it, I might want to keep a very low body fat percentage too.
3. They still get airbrushed and photo shopped - even VS models don't look like VS models.
4. They lower their body fat before runway shows and photo shoots - most of them don't stay that way year round.
Instead of trying to be a VS model, why not try to be the best version of *you* that you can be? If you want to have slimmer legs, you need to lose fat. Eat at a moderate deficit, do some exercise you enjoy, and be patient.0
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