naturally thin people
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There is a downside to being naturally thin. You have to worry about becoming skinny fat...
I know, that's why I hate being on bed rest, but I'd rather heal completely first than have a chronic injury. I'm doing what I can.0 -
I'm curious why you read a weight loss forum if you're stuck at 99 lbs. trying to gain.Ohhh, I'm quite serious. It's hard for me to gain weight or muscle. No health problems, I just don't gain easily.0 -
I don't care what science says about this, some people are just THIN.
I used to work with a girl who was lucky to be a size 6 Australian (I'm guessing that size 0 US). She would eat McDonalds for breakfast, Burger King for lunch, KFC for dinner. In between, she'd snack on things like banana bread, chips, chocolate. She never exercised. She never ate at home. She always ate takeaway and processed food. She drank on weekends, and then had junk food for the hangover. She just couldn't gain.
I know a few other girls like this, and their mums are also rake thing as well so I believe genetics plays a huge role in someone being naturally thin, or someone being naturally larger (and no, I'm not excusing FAT, I'm saying some people are just naturally larger and will never be "rake thin").
I'm curious why you read a weight loss forum if you're stuck at 99 lbs. trying to gain.Ohhh, I'm quite serious. It's hard for me to gain weight or muscle. No health problems, I just don't gain easily.
Because this is a health and fitness forum, not specifically a weight loss forum? We have many people here who are toning, trying to gain weight, at a healthy weight and use this to track and log.0 -
My 18 yr old daughter is 5'8, 112 and naturally thin.
Where I'm 5'10 and wouldn't be alive if I even came close to that weight. 2 inch difference.
She does have two jobs and a full time student but before that she always eats fast food, unless I cook, and just naturally thin like a model, her shoulders, shape, etc...everywhere we go people comment how she should model,... she didn't get that naturally thinness from me. My frame isn't tiny like hers. I do not know where she got that from. Possibly somewhere on her dad side as her aunt is naturally thin.
There is times I have made tacos and she will ask for three of four and eat them. lol... she eats a lot of fast food....drinks juice, soda, snacks and snacks on chips, cookies, whatever she wants,,, Her age may have something to do with it but her frame and height tell me she just is one of those lucky people that doesn't have to stress about it. She is tight, firm, and lean. I do tell her though she needs to eat better and like I said above when I cook she does. Time will tell if it will catch up with her at my age. lol
Just genetics for her and her metabolism tends to burn food faster than a lot of people. lol0 -
For years, I was convinced my husband was a "special snowflake" who didn't follow the laws of thermodynamics. He always ate much more than I did, got less exercise, and never picked up weight. I, on the other hand, could barely walk past a chocolate without picking up a couple of pounds.
So I measured his body fat, strapped a HRM on him when he exercised, calculated his TDEE, and tracked his calories over a week. (He was entirely unamused by having his supper weighed and measured.) Turns out he didn't eat much when he wasn't at home, moved more than I realized, and generally kept below his TDEE. In fact, I would guess that his actual TDEE is lower than the calculators suggest.
In contrast, my "slow" metabolism, which we labelled the "metabolism of a turnip", is (finally) starting to behave exactly as the calculators suggest. And the ultimate irony for me was finding out that my TDEE is actually way higher than his. Yay!0 -
I guess I fall into the "naturally thin" category.....
I did notice after 25 that my metabolism started slowing, and really dropped over age 30.....
So the stuff I could eat at 19, I can not now.....
But at the same time, when I was in my teens and early 20's.....
I was extremely active......so basketball, volleyball and lifting weights.....0 -
Everyone always says I am naturally thin. They are amazed at how much I can eat if we go out for dinner or see me grab McDonald's on the way home. I always agreed with them, thinking I must be naturally thin as I never seemed to gain weight and could eat what I wanted. But- now that I have learned a bit more about food and become more self aware about my eating habits, I realize that I am not any different than them. I am a very focused, busy, person and if I am hungry while focusing on a task it is very easy for me to just ignore my hunger or not even notice it. I have no trouble going until 3-4pm until realizing that I am hungry. Then, if I am going out for dinner, I will have a small snack and then eat a huge meal at the restaurant. I am focusing on dinner with my friends and enjoying eating so of course I will put away an appetizer, full entrée, desert, and drinks. They always thought I could eat what I wanted because when we eat together that is what they see. They didn't see me rushing around all day getting things done and forgetting to eat. I didn't even realize it most of the time.
In trying to live a healthier lifestyle, I have been planning my breakfast, lunches, and dinner, and have found myself gaining weight at times because I am focusing on food, thus, consuming more. I have even found myself more hungry than before because food is on my mind
Now I want to be more healthy ( not get sick all the time, be physically fit) I am tracking food, and thinking about it more. It is funny how the mind works. Before I could eat anything I wanted and didn't worry about good nutrition and I was always very thin. Now because I have made nutrition as issue in my life, I find myself noticing what I am eating, thinking about food, wanting food, being hungrier, and gaining weight at times.0 -
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I'm liking you more and more, Piglet.
It's the sweater.
I customized it m'self.
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My fiance eats non stop all day, not really very healthy and is very thing-even has a 6-pack without working out! so they do exist!0
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Everyone always says I am naturally thin. They are amazed at how much I can eat if we go out for dinner or see me grab McDonald's on the way home. I always agreed with them, thinking I must be naturally thin as I never seemed to gain weight and could eat what I wanted. But- now that I have learned a bit more about food and become more self aware about my eating habits, I realize that I am not any different than them. I am a very focused, busy, person and if I am hungry while focusing on a task it is very easy for me to just ignore my hunger or not even notice it. I have no trouble going until 3-4pm until realizing that I am hungry. Then, if I am going out for dinner, I will have a small snack and then eat a huge meal at the restaurant. I am focusing on dinner with my friends and enjoying eating so of course I will put away an appetizer, full entrée, desert, and drinks. They always thought I could eat what I wanted because when we eat together that is what they see. They didn't see me rushing around all day getting things done and forgetting to eat. I didn't even realize it most of the time.
This is how I was also during times of stress in my life. But, I started having problems because my body couldn't actually handle going that long without food and my heart would start to pound very fast, I'd feel very weak, and need to try and eat food as quickly as possible. It was no longer a healthy meal pattern for me. But, it is how I respond to stress. So, I changed it. Since joining mfp, I have developed more consistent healthy eating patterns for myself, and make sure I eat regularly and enjoy eating.0 -
Prior to me having a weight problem, people used to think I was naturally thin. It's true that I never counted calories and ate pretty much anything when I was thin, but it's also true that in reality I wasn't really eating that much. The main thing was that I would eat when I was hungry and stop when I was full. My weight problem started when I no longer was able to feel hunger or fullness. I could eat and eat and never really feel full which is why I have to count calories today. I wish I could go back to feeling hungry and full cause it was so much easier.0
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My fiance eats non stop all day, not really very healthy and is very thing-even has a 6-pack without working out! so they do exist!
You can see his 6 pack because he is lean. He is obviously burning off any excess calories, despite what he is eating, just that's just science. :drinker:0 -
Nothing you've written in this post (or subsequent posts) suggests that your husband is naturally thin . . . just that he has a higher TDEE than you and eats to meet that TDEE - not more, not less. If he did force himself to eat above that, he would gain weight.My husband is like a rail. He eats far more than me at each meal, drinks sugary sodas and coffee drinks regularly and snacks a lot. He is almost half my weight. We have been together over 5 years with this difference in our eating styles and he never gains weight. I would say he is one of those naturally thin people. They exist.
It seems we have a different opinion of what "naturally thin" means. Not just you but others here. Some people say "Oh he is not naturally thin, he just has a higher metabolism or TDEE" or whatever other factor. To me that means he has a natural tendency to be able to eat far more food than I do, and stay thin. To me, that means "naturally thin". I don't assume that he could stuff himself all day every day with lard and stay thin. Is this what some people think we mean by "naturally thin"? lol, no, I am sure there is a threshold when he would start to gain weight for sure!
What I really mean by naturally thin, is that he can eat all he wants, be it healthy food or junk food, and far FAR more than I do, and stay thin while I either gain or maintain.
He eats the same diet I do, only I give him a bit more to compensate for his height and gender and general high metabolism that I know he has. Yet he eats a lot of junk food on top of that. His weight, despite this always remains between 150 to 165. It does fluctuate, but he never gains a large amount of weight despite his eating junk food to his hearts content on a regular basis. And by "hearts content" I do not mean he gorges himself. I only mean that he eats far more than I do, even taking into account the extra food he gets at meals, and it is usually junk food, without taking any consideration of how much he is eating and only stopping when it is gone or he is nice and full and sluggish. To me, this means "naturally thin".
Some people here seem to be kind of angry that some people simply do have an easier time staying thin. It is not a fat person's excuse (all the time). It is just that some people have this lucky trait. I don't bemoan or hold it against them. And I am certainly not in any kind of denial about how I put on weight. I ate far too much starchy foods for years. It was not always my fault, as I have explained, but the last year and 15 pounds certainly were. Because at that point we were ok financially again, but I missed awesome food and just let myself have everything I wanted. My husband did the same but he did not gain weight. Good for him! lol.
Some people's bodies just store fat more readily for a wide variety of reasons. Not matter how you feel about it, it is true. Maybe we can change the term "naturally thin" to "easily thin". Would that be more clear? Would the fat blaming sarcasm be less necessary if we changed the term?
Okay, this makes a little more sense . . . but it's still not a magical "lucky trait" in my opinion. It's just genetics, a 6'1 male is going to have a higher TDEE than a sedentary shorter female, and will therefore be able to eat more. I might feel differently about this if I had a lower TDEE - mine's about 2400 and I lose fairly rapidly eating 2000 calories a day - which is more than some people who are much heavier than me eat in order to maintain. I mean, but if my TDEE were 1800 and I saw myself starting to gain weight while eating the recommended amount of calories for an average woman (2000, I think), and I saw less active people eating more than that and staying the same, I might be pissed off about it too and blame it on them being "naturally thin" (and I don't think you're necessarily making an excuse and I don't mean to "fat blame" as you put it) . . .0 -
I have a friend who is 'naturally thin'. She could eat Maccas all day if she wanted to. She is suppsoed to eat high calories to maintain a normal weight. This would all be great, theoretically, but it's a actually *kitten* of a thing- she has Cystic Fibrosis. Wouldn't wish that problem upon anyone.0
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Nothing you've written in this post (or subsequent posts) suggests that your husband is naturally thin . . . just that he has a higher TDEE than you and eats to meet that TDEE - not more, not less. If he did force himself to eat above that, he would gain weight.My husband is like a rail. He eats far more than me at each meal, drinks sugary sodas and coffee drinks regularly and snacks a lot. He is almost half my weight. We have been together over 5 years with this difference in our eating styles and he never gains weight. I would say he is one of those naturally thin people. They exist.
It seems we have a different opinion of what "naturally thin" means. Not just you but others here. Some people say "Oh he is not naturally thin, he just has a higher metabolism or TDEE" or whatever other factor. To me that means he has a natural tendency to be able to eat far more food than I do, and stay thin. To me, that means "naturally thin". I don't assume that he could stuff himself all day every day with lard and stay thin. Is this what some people think we mean by "naturally thin"? lol, no, I am sure there is a threshold when he would start to gain weight for sure!
What I really mean by naturally thin, is that he can eat all he wants, be it healthy food or junk food, and far FAR more than I do, and stay thin while I either gain or maintain.
He eats the same diet I do, only I give him a bit more to compensate for his height and gender and general high metabolism that I know he has. Yet he eats a lot of junk food on top of that. His weight, despite this always remains between 150 to 165. It does fluctuate, but he never gains a large amount of weight despite his eating junk food to his hearts content on a regular basis. And by "hearts content" I do not mean he gorges himself. I only mean that he eats far more than I do, even taking into account the extra food he gets at meals, and it is usually junk food, without taking any consideration of how much he is eating and only stopping when it is gone or he is nice and full and sluggish. To me, this means "naturally thin".
Some people here seem to be kind of angry that some people simply do have an easier time staying thin. It is not a fat person's excuse (all the time). It is just that some people have this lucky trait. I don't bemoan or hold it against them. And I am certainly not in any kind of denial about how I put on weight. I ate far too much starchy foods for years. It was not always my fault, as I have explained, but the last year and 15 pounds certainly were. Because at that point we were ok financially again, but I missed awesome food and just let myself have everything I wanted. My husband did the same but he did not gain weight. Good for him! lol.
Some people's bodies just store fat more readily for a wide variety of reasons. Not matter how you feel about it, it is true. Maybe we can change the term "naturally thin" to "easily thin". Would that be more clear? Would the fat blaming sarcasm be less necessary if we changed the term?
Okay, this makes a little more sense . . . but it's still not a magical "lucky trait" in my opinion. It's just genetics, a 6'1 male is going to have a higher TDEE than a sedentary shorter female, and will therefore be able to eat more. I might feel differently about this if I had a lower TDEE - mine's about 2400 and I lose fairly rapidly eating 2000 calories a day - which is more than some people who are much heavier than me eat in order to maintain. I mean, but if my TDEE were 1800 and I saw myself starting to gain weight while eating the recommended amount of calories for an average woman (2000, I think), and I saw less active people eating more than that and staying the same, I might be pissed off about it too and blame it on them being "naturally thin" (and I don't think you're necessarily making an excuse and I don't mean to "fat blame" as you put it) . . .
Sorry, by "fat blaming" I was referring to other comments on this thread. I was responding to you first and then the thread generally. There are some pretty nasty and defensive comments here. Totally unnecessary as we are just having a conversation. People need to lighten up, for real.
Anyway, do keep in mind my hub is way more sedentary than I am. I at least walk a couple hours a few days a week and do house work most days. He is all day every day at his computer until I force him to get up and stretch once in a while. I can not wait to move in to the new building with an indoor pool. I'm gonna make that boy swim every other day. But then he may waste away to nothing! haha0 -
My husband hears this all of the time and so do my daughters. What I have realized is that, yes he eats all of the time, but he enjoys healthy food and is always moving. My daughters both eat but my youngest who is thin with a lot of muscle definition is always active and eats all day long in small amounts, my oldest eats less when she is less active and balances herself naturally.
My sister on the other hand, the doctors have tried for years to get her to gain weight, she eats a good amount and is semi-active and still never weights over 105lbs. Her tests are all fine but even her doctor says she is just naturally thin.0 -
On a very simple level, your weight depends on the number of calories you consume, how many of those calories you store, and how many you burn up. But each of these factors is influenced by a combination of genes and environment. Both can affect your physiology (such as how fast you burn calories) as well as your behavior (the types of foods you choose to eat, for instance). The interplay between all these factors begins at the moment of your conception and continues throughout your life.The balance of calories stored and burned depends on your genetic makeup, your level of physical activity, and your resting energy expenditure (the number of calories your body burns while at rest).The strength of the genetic influence on weight disorders varies quite a bit from person to person. Research suggests that for some people, genes account for just 25% of the predisposition to be overweight, while for others the genetic influence is as high as 70% to 80%. Having a rough idea of how large a role genes play in your weight may be helpful in terms of treating your weight problems.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/Why-people-become-overweight.htm0 -
I don't care what science says about this, some people are just THIN.
I used to work with a girl who was lucky to be a size 6 Australian (I'm guessing that size 0 US). She would eat McDonalds for breakfast, Burger King for lunch, KFC for dinner. In between, she'd snack on things like banana bread, chips, chocolate. She never exercised. She never ate at home. She always ate takeaway and processed food. She drank on weekends, and then had junk food for the hangover. She just couldn't gain.
I know a few other girls like this, and their mums are also rake thing as well so I believe genetics plays a huge role in someone being naturally thin, or someone being naturally larger (and no, I'm not excusing FAT, I'm saying some people are just naturally larger and will never be "rake thin").
I'm curious why you read a weight loss forum if you're stuck at 99 lbs. trying to gain.Ohhh, I'm quite serious. It's hard for me to gain weight or muscle. No health problems, I just don't gain easily.
Because this is a health and fitness forum, not specifically a weight loss forum? We have many people here who are toning, trying to gain weight, at a healthy weight and use this to track and log.
Weight loss forum? Try fitness forum. I log to track macros and micros, and adore my friends here.0 -
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The strength of the genetic influence on weight disorders varies quite a bit from person to person. Research suggests that for some people, genes account for just 25% of the predisposition to be overweight, while for others the genetic influence is as high as 70% to 80%. Having a rough idea of how large a role genes play in your weight may be helpful in terms of treating your weight problems.
Excellent, Hornsby. 0 -
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The strength of the genetic influence on weight disorders varies quite a bit from person to person. Research suggests that for some people, genes account for just 25% of the predisposition to be overweight, while for others the genetic influence is as high as 70% to 80%. Having a rough idea of how large a role genes play in your weight may be helpful in terms of treating your weight problems.
Excellent, Hornsby.
To date, more than 400 different genes have been implicated in the development of overweight or obesity, although only a handful appear to be major players. Genes contribute to obesity in many ways, by affecting appetite, satiety (the sense of fullness), metabolism, food cravings, body-fat distribution, and the tendency to use eating as a way to cope with stress.
Above is another quote form the Harvard link.
There is NO causality. Look at the waffle words. "implicated", "appear", "suggest", "may".
There has NEVER been a gene identified that directly causes obesity.
Genes have nothing to do with being overweight, just as they have nothing to do with being underweight.
Genes define a mechanism for metabolism that responds to the calorie load presented to it.
Learned behavior and social cues are the culprits.
Again, NO causality can be found in ANY study.
I'll take Harvard's word over yours. No disrespect intended though.0 -
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The strength of the genetic influence on weight disorders varies quite a bit from person to person. Research suggests that for some people, genes account for just 25% of the predisposition to be overweight, while for others the genetic influence is as high as 70% to 80%. Having a rough idea of how large a role genes play in your weight may be helpful in terms of treating your weight problems.
Excellent, Hornsby.
To date, more than 400 different genes have been implicated in the development of overweight or obesity, although only a handful appear to be major players. Genes contribute to obesity in many ways, by affecting appetite, satiety (the sense of fullness), metabolism, food cravings, body-fat distribution, and the tendency to use eating as a way to cope with stress.
Above is another quote form the Harvard link.
There is NO causality. Look at the waffle words. "implicated", "appear", "suggest", "may".
There has NEVER been a gene identified that directly causes obesity.
Genes have nothing to do with being overweight, just as they have nothing to do with being underweight.
Genes define a mechanism for metabolism that responds to the calorie load presented to it.
Learned behavior and social cues are the culprits.
Again, NO causality can be found in ANY study.
MRAP2 acts in the brain to control weight. Let's do one gene at a time.0 -
But this the "General Diet and Weight Loss Help" forum within the MFP forums. I'm not implying anyone needs to be overweight to read and post here. I was just curious. I have no interest in the weight gain forums because I don't have that specific problem so it would be odd for me to be reading/posting there. To me.I don't care what science says about this, some people are just THIN.
I used to work with a girl who was lucky to be a size 6 Australian (I'm guessing that size 0 US). She would eat McDonalds for breakfast, Burger King for lunch, KFC for dinner. In between, she'd snack on things like banana bread, chips, chocolate. She never exercised. She never ate at home. She always ate takeaway and processed food. She drank on weekends, and then had junk food for the hangover. She just couldn't gain.
I know a few other girls like this, and their mums are also rake thing as well so I believe genetics plays a huge role in someone being naturally thin, or someone being naturally larger (and no, I'm not excusing FAT, I'm saying some people are just naturally larger and will never be "rake thin").
I'm curious why you read a weight loss forum if you're stuck at 99 lbs. trying to gain.Ohhh, I'm quite serious. It's hard for me to gain weight or muscle. No health problems, I just don't gain easily.
Because this is a health and fitness forum, not specifically a weight loss forum? We have many people here who are toning, trying to gain weight, at a healthy weight and use this to track and log.
Weight loss forum? Try fitness forum. I log to track macros and micros, and adore my friends here.0 -
I'm also interested in discussing this, if you're interested.Characterization of cytochrome P450 and glutathione S-transferase activity and expression in male and female ob/ob mice.
Roe AL, Howard G, Blouin R, Snawder JE.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To characterize the effect(s) of gender, age (glycemic status) and obese state, on hepatic biotransformation activities, expression of cytochrome P450 (CYP450) mRNAs and glutathione transferase activity in the ob/ob mouse.
DESIGN:
Male and female, ob/ob or ob/+ mice were killed at 3-4 months or 7-8 months of age. Hepatic microsomes, cytosol and RNA were prepared from each animal.
ANIMALS:
Male and female ob/ob and ob/+ mice, 3-4 or 7-8 months of age.
MEASUREMENTS:
CYP450 form-specific activities of CYP1A1/1A2, CYP3A and CYP2B were estimated by determining the 0-dealkylation of alkoxyresorufin substrates (ethoxy-EROD, benzoxy-BROD and pentoxy-resorufin, PROD, respectively). CYP2E1-dependent, 4-nitrophenol hydroxylase (PNP-OH) and CYP3A-dependent erythromycin N-demethylase (ERY-DM) were also measured in hepatic microsomes. CYP1A2, CYP2E1 and CYP3A protein in microsomal fractions was determined by ELISA. Glutathione transferase activity (GST) was determined in hepatic cytosol and CYP1A2 and CYP2E1 mRNA was estimated by Northern blot analysis.
RESULTS:
Female mice, regardless of glycemic status, showed an obesity enhanced level of CYP2E1-dependent PNP-OH activity and CYP2E1 protein as shown by ELISA. These increases were observed to be independent of the diabetic state, since 7-8 month-old mice had blood glucose levels identical to lean mice. The mRNA level of CYP2E1 in female mice also exhibited age-and obesity-influenced decreases in expression. No significant differences in CYP2E1 activity or expression were observed in male mice. CYP3A-dependent ERY-DM activity was significantly higher in young males, regardless of phenotype. CYP3A and CYP2B activities did not differ among any animals; however, CYP1A activity, while depressed in obese animals of both genders, was significantly different in old animals. Glutathione S-transferase activity was lower in obese male mice, whereas no difference was observed between lean and obese females
CONCLUSION:
This study supports earlier observations in man and rats that the obese state produces alterations in the expression of important oxidation and conjugation pathways. In addition, this report more thoroughly examines the role of gender and glycemic status on biotransformation activities in the ob/ob mouse as demonstrated by increased CYP2E1 protein and CYP2E1-dependent activity in obese females, decreased CYP1A2 protein and CYP1A2-dependent activity in obese animals, and obesity had no effect of glutathione transferase in female mice, in contrast with the previously reported obesity-dependent decrease of this activity in male mice.0 -
Also, why does your profile say you're 77? And where was your broken clavicle a week ago when you posted a flexed bicep selfie? You're looking pretty healthy for 99 lbs. at 5'2".But this the "General Diet and Weight Loss Help" forum within the MFP forums. I'm not implying anyone needs to be overweight to read and post here. I was just curious. I have no interest in the weight gain forums because I don't have that specific problem so it would be odd for me to be reading/posting there. To me.0 -
I've always been a "naturally thin" person but I agree with a lot of the comments. My mom was diabetic so I was raised to eat healthier so my typical meals are relatively healthy but I do have binges of eating terrible without seeing any significant gains. I'm also very fidgety (always shaking my legs and wiggling around in my chair at work) so I think those habits probably slowly burn extra calories throughout the day.0
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Yes "naturally thin" does seem to exist, despite the best amateur scientist calculations of activity and intake. Some people refer to it as having a "body set point" of a lower weight too, and as far as I've seen we aren't really sure why some people's bodies react like this. And I've also seen if they are identified in a study, they tend to be taken out of it, or labeled as cheaters and taken out. Even the great starvation experiment some were labeled as cheaters that they could never figure out how they were actually cheating, but if a doctor suspected, they were "out".
Yes many are wrongly labeled "naturally thin" by people not realizing they dont eat like this other times, or they have a huge activity level not seen by others, etc, its also part of jealousy, large people seeing some eating the same things and not fat: easy excuse is they are "naturally thin". But there are some real unexplained by pure "calories in calories out" formulas, "naturally thin" people.
Naturally thin, presuming some natural genetic hormonal, or physiologic process, does not exist.
Think about it.
If there were a safe way to short-circuit some part of the metabolic process in humans so they could remain at a desired weight, and without the side effects of meth-type drugs, or thyroid-class drugs, and without dietary restrictions or exercise, the medical researchers would be all over it in a second.
The NIH would give researchers a gazillion dollars to work with.
That's the holy grail of weight researchers- a safe way to stabilize weight.
So that guy who was kicked out of USAF studies because he was naturally thin, where there was probably more to it than that.
It does exist, think about it, if it didnt, why is there a certain small percent that "dont fit" for metabolic studies for reasons other than illness/medical conditions and are thrown out? The fact is there are other considerations, probably metabolism plus a way some people's bodies can have a "set point" and have more difficulty than others gaining or losing past it. You are also aware of basic body "set points" without knowing it: why does one girl have a lot more fat around her hips than another or one have bigger breasts, or another have bigger thighs even though they may all eat similar calories? There are a lot of things we still dont know how to do with the body, including repairing telomeres, reversing Alzheimer's, etc.
It is true however that MOST people claimed to be "naturally thin" are really not, but more active/eat less etc. This further confuses the issue. Also, this effect also seems to reduce with age in many.
Also, the probable reason for most of this is genetic, and there would be no "pill" for this. Maybe gene therapy in the future of some sort.0 -
For the sake of the general public (not anomalies or the rarest percentage of people who may be "naturally thin" due to some genetic or physiological oddity) thin people who can "eat whatever they want and not exercise" still are obviously eating at or under what they burn. Let's not make this out to be some envious position of genetics.
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For the sake of the general public (not anomalies or the rarest percentage of people who may be "naturally thin" due to some genetic or physiological oddity) thin people who can "eat whatever they want and not exercise" still are obviously eating at or under what they burn. Let's not make this out to be some envious position of genetics.
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I don't think one person has said otherwise in this entire thread.0 -
For the sake of the general public (not anomalies or the rarest percentage of people who may be "naturally thin" due to some genetic or physiological oddity) thin people who can "eat whatever they want and not exercise" still are obviously eating at or under what they burn. Let's not make this out to be some envious position of genetics.
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Yes you are right, that's probably more than 99%++ of the cases: eating less when not observed, or more active than estimated. But people come on and keep making these blanket statements of "Well because math" kind of stuff which, sorry, how you do your math is wrong if you don't take into consideration some factors of the equation
Just because a multiplier is usually 1, doesn't mean you can ignore it at rare times when its .91 or 1.06 Its true though that many will take the tiny percent as an "excuse" and label anyone thinner than they are who seems to eat what they eat as "naturally thin". I happen to have known several who fit this category, but most of them were due to a known rare genetic abnormality (inheritable), one was...unknown and the effect seems to be reduced as he aged.
Probably on average you don't even know anyone who is truly "naturally thin"...which is a horrible term anyways, it just means there is some underlying mechanism going on in that person's body that is very outside "average" that results in increased burn, decreased nutrient metabolism, or...we don't know yet, but it will probably be explainable outside of leprechauns and unicorns as we learn more.
In_the_stars, quick, take off your green hat so they know you exist! 0
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