Don't forget to get your flu shot!

redheaddee

No thanks, I'm not interested in autism as a lifestyle choice.

Oh sweet baby Jesus NO. So much NO. :noway:

chivalryder

I haven't had my flu shot in over 6 years. Haven't had the flu since I was 10.

MeanderingMammal

This kind of goes off topic a bit, but it was explained to me that it was in case there was a biological attack. There wasn't really an expressed concern of getting it from another person.

There are much easier ways to deploy a biological agent, weaponising anthrax to the extent that it's useful in anything but very small populations is incredibly difficult.

arghbowl

Work in the medical field and had to get it by 11/1/13 or would be placed on unpaid leave of absence.

kbolton322

Guess I'm part of those that don't care about other people. Natural selection I suppose.

No flu shot for me.

Case in point. :huh:

It's nice to know that you think my beautiful niece doesn't deserve to be protected from an easily preventable disease because she's "not fit".

I was being sarcastic in that statement. I don't know your niece but I am guessing that if her immune system is not healthy her family will keep her out of public places and make it well known to visitors that they can't come if they are sick.

If it was an attempt at sarcastic humor, it wasn't funny.

Her parents take as many precautions as they can, but basically you're saying that this child should live in a bubble and never leave her home? Because a select portion of the population thinks they're too special to help prevent and spread easily preventable diseases? Cool story, bro.

This is the child I'm talking about. And not just for you, but for anyone else choosing not to get vaccinated because they're not worried about their own health - think about other people and other people's children when you make that choice, and decide if it's worth it.

I wasn't going to say anything but now I will.. I don't get the flu shot and neither does my husband or my two daughters who are ages 4 and 6 years old... my oldest got the flu shot once and never again did I let her get it... I myself dont get it cuz I get twice as sick with it then I do with out it... and knock on wood that I don't get it... I think people over think the flu shot... there are other things to help not get the flu other then getting a shot... plus my kids are forced to have other shots just to go to school this is one I will not let them have...

jonnythan

Work in the medical field and had to get it by 11/1/13 or would be placed on unpaid leave of absence.

I've got a hunch that has more to do with politics and bureaucracy than how effective the flu vaccine is at preventing the flu.

</sarcasm>

EddieHaskell97

I had mine October 15th. Flu shots (among many others) are required for employment with my company.

MeanderingMammal

So when you say "the risk is not that high"....... what you actually mean is "I don't really know what the risk is."

What I mean is, the professional advice from military medical professionals is; "it's not a high enough risk to do anything about".

They're trained in general practice and occupational health, so I take their advice. They take mine in other areas.

ajaxe432

I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.

Technically your right, until a year from now:)

Not sure what you think happens a year from now, but I'm reasonably sure it's not what you think it is.

Taken away my last quote, my question to you is do you think that the Affordable Care Act does not have anything to do with the government?

ajaxe432

I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.

Technically your right, until a year from now:)

Not sure what you think happens a year from now, but I'm reasonably sure it's not what you think it is.

At least you're consistent. Your naivety with the current (and likely future) level of government influence in healthcare is consistent with your position on the military regulations.

Thank you, that is what I meant to say.....nicely written also!

jonnythan

So when you say "the risk is not that high"....... what you actually mean is "I don't really know what the risk is."

What I mean is, the professional advice from military medical professionals is; "it's not a high enough risk to do anything about".

They're trained in general practice and occupational health, so I take their advice. They take mine in other areas.

Is that an actual quote from someone in the UK?

Military medical professionals, as well as civilian medical professionals, in the US say essentially the opposite.

jonnythan

I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.

Technically your right, until a year from now:)

Not sure what you think happens a year from now, but I'm reasonably sure it's not what you think it is.

Taken away my last quote, my question to you is do you think that the Affordable Care Act does not have anything to do with the government?

You seem to be under some misconceptions about the ACA, which is understandable considering the incredibly effective program of misinformation launched against it.

I can assure you that it does not involve the government in any way taking control of healthcare.

ajaxe432

I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.

Technically your right, until a year from now:)

Not sure what you think happens a year from now, but I'm reasonably sure it's not what you think it is.

Taken away my last quote, my question to you is do you think that the Affordable Care Act does not have anything to do with the government?

You seem to be under some misconceptions about the ACA, which is understandable considering the incredibly effective program of misinformation launched against it.

I can assure you that it does not involve the government in any way taking control of healthcare.

Please explain..I am open to new views!

MeanderingMammal

So when you say "the risk is not that high"....... what you actually mean is "I don't really know what the risk is."

What I mean is, the professional advice from military medical professionals is; "it's not a high enough risk to do anything about".

They're trained in general practice and occupational health, so I take their advice. They take mine in other areas.

Is that an actual quote from someone in the UK?

Military medical professionals, as well as civilian medical professionals, in the US say essentially the opposite.

Availability of flu shots in the UK is quite limited; healthcare workers, childcare workers and those with a compromised immune system. The vast majority of people don't get it.

My partner has to get it but having discussed it with the clinic there was no requirement for me to get it; Risk doesn't justify it.

So civilian and military medics are pretty much aligned over here.

Discussed it with one of the drainsniffers in the ops room one night and he was suggesting that the use of the shot does lead to some proliferation of strains. So by over-immunising there is a reduced likelihood of forecasting the appropriate strain in future years.

deksgrl

I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.

Not yet, but that's the road we are going down.

raw_meal

I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

Where is the mandate bill? Like what line in any proposed law that says you have to have a flu shot? Just curious. Are there even 300 million plus vaccines available? Even if there were a mandate it might be impossible to supply the US with the number of vaccines required.

By the way this is straight from the CDC http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm

What role does the Department of Health and Human Services play in the supply and distribution of the seasonal influenza vaccine?
Influenza vaccine production and distribution are primarily private sector endeavors. The Department of Health and Human Services and CDC do not have the authority to control influenza vaccine distribution nor the resources to manage such an effort. However, the Department has made significant efforts to enhance production capacity of seasonal influenza vaccines, including supporting manufacturers as they invest in processes to stabilize and increase their production capacity.

jonnythan

Please explain..I am open to new views!

Not sure what to explain. The major provisions of the ACA are:

1) The individual mandate, where everyone who doesn't have health insurance is required to purchase it (from a private company, not the government).
2) Expansion of government subsidies to help poorer people buy health care insurance (from a private company, not the government)
3) Prohibition of denying insurance, or requiring a higher premium, to those with preexisting conditions
4) Health insurance exchanges, which make it easier to shop for insurance (from a private company)
5) Establishment of certain minimum requirements for health insurance (similar to those for auto insurance)
6) Expansion of Medicaid eligibility
7) Businesses of a certain size are required to offer health insurance

None of these constitute a government takeover of health insurance. When you go out and get insurance, even on a government-run health insurance exchange, you are buying it from a private insurance company. Other than Medicare and Medicaid, which already exist independent of the ACA, the government is not getting involved with actually acting as an insurer.

jonnythan

I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.

Not yet, but that's the road we are going down.

Might be for the best, considering how much we spend on healthcare per person for such poor outcomes.

Crash7676

No thanks, I'm not interested in autism as a lifestyle choice.

OMG I can't believe people are still spreading this myth. IT IS A MYTH. There is NO scientific evidence of this. At all. THis has been debunked a long time ago. If you choose to remain uneducated and uninformed, fine. But DO NOT spread outdated, alarmist rumors. And even more hilarious: you think that a vaccine could 'give' you Autism.

SCV34

I worked for a Doctor who said that the only people that should get a flu shot are the elderly or anyone with a compromised immune system, everyone else should not get the flu shot. Since I am not elderly or have a compromised immune system, I will not be getting the flu shot.