Losing weight in my buttox? NOT GOOD
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Cue the obligatory squat squat squat responses…when squats don't give maximal glute activation. But I'll concede…one should be squatting for many other benefits, not just aesthetics…but I digress….
There's no such thing as toning or getting toned. That's just a marketing word for building muscle and losing fat. The problem is that it's nearly impossible to do both at the same unless you're just starting out…especially for a female. And you can do all the various squats and lunges and this or that but it won't make a hill of beans if you're not eating properly. If you want to shape or build a different *kitten* yore simply talking about adding muscle and that takes a caloric surplus. Your body is not going to take fat and make it into muscle. It's impossible, it doesn't have the nutritional profile to do so. So if you're still interested in cardio, for some reason, you have to make your mind up as to what you want to do. You ready to gain some weight? You're officially a body builder now. (Frankly you've been one) You need to change your eating over to how a bodybuilder eats if you're planning on making any difference. High protein and do real work like previously suggested. Cardio sucks and you can replace that with more intense and heavier glute work. Also see the conundrum….women oftentimes don't want to bulk up or add muscle, but they are marketed to to think there's something different a girl needs to do. Negative. You're trying to add bulk to your *kitten* now if you're talking bout shaping or toning, that's what you're asking for…just a smaller amount than "some big body builder chick/dude" But physiologically it's the same reaction, just smaller. And this is part of how the industry and it's bullishly has confused people.
It's always funny to me how everyone has a special exercise recommendation but no one understands that all you're going to be doing is "running in place" and breaking your muscle down to repair itself over and over again and not make much of a difference unless you eat differently. Most goals are 99% dietary intake in my book. You can contract and relax a muscle under load a million different ways but the intake is what makes the difference.0 -
I would like to reinforce this point with a remix of sorts
If you not happy with your badunk ladies & gentlemen
Get ready to get swole up
Let's do it, Ha Ha
LMFAO
You know what
Lil Jon
Yeah
All of the squataholics
Where you at
Let's go
When I walk in the gym
All eyes on me
I'm with the party rock crew
All sets are free
We like to squat
We love to get low
We came to barbell squat
Everybody it's on
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Squats Squats Squats Squats Squats
The guys love us
When we do squats
They need an excuse
To stare at our badunks
We came to get crunk
How 'bout you?
Barbells up
Let's go for set two
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Best thing I've seen all day.
Thanks for that, ryry.0 -
squats.0
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Squats, deadlifts, hip thrusters, lunges … all that.
And you have to eat right. That might mean maintenance (SLOW), or a slight surplus to build the muscle.0 -
No butt no good!! Go get the butt bible dvd !!0
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Squats (goblet, barbell, split), deadlifts, hill sprints, hip thrusts, glute bridges. In the 8 - 12 rep range.
Check out http://bretcontreras.com/category/glute-training/0 -
Cycling has been my butt saver! And its still a great cardio burn, working well for me so far0
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Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
Pilates will "tone" your whatever because it's loaded muscle. Why not achieve your goal ten times faster by adding ten times more intensity and eat accordingly to ones goals.
Stamina? For what jogging? Do some front squats, glute bridges, dead lifts, box jumps… That will build real stamina that blows a typical mile or two jog out of the water, not just stamina to move an elliptical or jog. Plus the metabolism is potentially further increased where as lame cardio for endurance has been shown to lower metabolic rate. PLUS, ANOTHER PLUS, is that you're still working the targeted area and creating change faster, if eating is appropriate.
And again, Pilates or cardio will do nothing if the systems aren't fed properly.
People feel some kind of way about "weightlifting" when it's proven time and time again. What it boils down to is females wanted to tell other females some weak sauce or lazier way to make something happen. And as long as you all repeat it, the people that research this stuff for a living are going to criticize the nonsense advice as it should be criticized especially when the rationale is scientifically incorrect.
20 years experience as a trainer and dietary consultant.0 -
You will get lots of recommendations to do squats and lunges which is good. However, when I used to speed skate I had huge glutes. Both speed skaters and figure skaters have big glutes. I would suggest doing some of your cardio in the form of roller blading.
Agree!! Im a figure skater and it saved my butt (literally) when I was losing weight! Even when I lost 25lbs my butt stayed, all because of skating and squats. So yeah like everyone else is saying, squats and lunges, but doing any kind of skating (ice or roller) is great way to get cardio as well.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
Sugar makes you fat.
See? I can spout nonsense without context too!0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?0 -
Lift heavy!
You´ll never get a toned body by wasting your time doing cardio
Lawl
Keep telling yourself that.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
You people?
And, what exactly is incorrect with actually answering her question and suggesting she squat etc? Your suggestion of pilates and cardio was better? Because of course she expressed an interest in pilates and a dislike of lifting...oh, wait!0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
It is the most efficient way when combined with proper nutrition. If she dislikes weight training then there are other strength training methods that are still more effective than pilates.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
It is the most efficient way when combined with proper nutrition. If she dislikes weight training then there are other strength training methods that are still more effective than pilates.
Also, maybe we should wait for the OP to tell us she dislikes it before assuming she does.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
It is the most efficient way when combined with proper nutrition. If she dislikes weight training then there are other strength training methods that are still more effective than pilates.
Also, maybe we should wait for the OP to tell us she dislikes it before assuming she does.
Yup. It is fine to suggest your personal views on it, but attacking others suggestions because you dont like it is childish. Discuss the merits of one over another or just leave your personal method until the OP says otherwise.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
Sorry friend....When somebody says I want to be skinny/thin/other adjective....I agree weights is not required for everyone
When someone specifically asks how to increase the size of a muscle...yes progressively overloading that muscle to force adaptation and eating for such goals is the answer
ETA: I'll even give some boot camp style type workouts may provide the stress needed for some initial adaptation, but it may or may not be to the extent the OP desires, and it will reach an end point, at which time more weight than body weight will be needed.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
Sorry friend....When somebody says I want to be skinny/thin/other adjective....I agree weights is not required for everyone
When someone specifically asks how to increase the size of a muscle...yes progressively overloading that muscle to force adaptation and eating for such goals is the answer
Well that is just crazy talk.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
And false. EVERYONE NEEDS to lift weights. Bones joints and ligaments become healthier on all accords when loaded consistently. The metabolism of ligaments increase when constantly put under tension. They need to be moved through their proper range of motion with added resistance. "Weight lifting" or the rather non judgmental/non dogma laden title "resistance training" can be done in circuit fashion or "complexes" to blow any traditional metabolically sucking "cardio" out of the water on all accords. Not to mention increased insulin sensitivity and better expression of IGF-1 and Mtor which, to make a long story short, "TONES" muscles faster and supports the metabolism.
Blood brothers syndrome i wrote about years ago. When someone has invested blood sweat and tears with a system/protocol/gym, whatever, they become irrational to any other truth being greater than theirs. It's not about judgment or being a know it all. It's about stopping the confusion that comes when people that don't know what they are talking about start giving advice, regardless of pure intention or not. The industry as a whole is responsible for the ignorance because confusion allows for selling options... but I'll be a small nerve cell of the big bumbling organism…I'll send my signals to get the whole organism moving. One nerve cell at a time.
This is why you can't breathe without some company talking about protein now. This came from the body building community years, decades ago. This came from all of those "weight lifting yuppies" in the gym years ago. This whole site probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for those "weight lifting yuppies" and their counterparts researching and finding out what really matters, and that's macronutrient intake. That's why this app exists and why this forum is here! The idea of it's importance is just now moving out of the big ol meatheads in the gym arena on to the common person's tv commercials and magazine ads. Now fruit loops have more protein, this yogurt is special, this protein shake is the best, and other nonsense. This all took time and constant badgering and arguing about this or that and "we don't need to eat that much protein because, cause, cause, cause" and eventually all of those smaller "yuppie" pushes added up to be an eventual shove. Now we know that most people on this forum under eat protein because they still think it's a male bodybuilder thing, meanwhile they have so many questions that wouldn't need to be asked because they all are under-eating protein for their weight/size/lean body mass and expenditure and keeping their nitrogen level at a rate that's so screwed up they can't see the change they seek. Now we know protein is such a key in dietary goals it's all over the place now. Buy this buy that it's got more protein in it. Luckily there were more than one person out there not afraid to tell the truth without fear of upsetting someone.
If you stand for nothing you'll fall for anything, and if you lived your whole life and never pissed someone off, you've never stood up for anything or anyone. Sounds long winded but I do this for a living, de-brainwashing the crap in peoples heads by forums and friends, about what they are supposed to do and me/us trying not to bang a hammer over their heads when you write them a program that doesn't involve hours of cardio. Then 3 months and 30 lbs later they've learned the truth to how the body reacts, and what it prefers, not nonsense to sell a cd, special shake or machine. The industry in general is full of crap, weak and biased "research" and anecdotal advice. Stop repeating this crap if you don't understand it.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
Sorry friend....When somebody says I want to be skinny/thin/other adjective....I agree weights is not required for everyone
When someone specifically asks how to increase the size of a muscle...yes progressively overloading that muscle to force adaptation and eating for such goals is the answer
Well that is just crazy talk.
Right. We're not even talking about a complex side of this stuff. Anybody wanting to shape,tone,lift,tighten, tuck, whatever, is describing a change in skeletal muscle, and that requires intense muscular load and eating to support it. ///
I mean just go do sprints right. Ever seen a sprinter that didn't have glutes? Same reason people are talking about skating. It's a ton of gluteal extension. Now find a high level sprinter or skater that eats at a deficit. Don't hold your breath. They eat to support the added mass(sculpting or toning, this is what you're doing, adding mass to the muscle) The problem is that how practical is it for a person to incorporate sprinting or skating or biking into their life?0 -
Just going to reiterate that I recommend Pilates. ^-^0
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Just going to reiterate that I recommend Pilates. ^-^
Yes, we got that. Pilates but not squats.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
Pilates will "tone" your whatever because it's loaded muscle. Why not achieve your goal ten times faster by adding ten times more intensity and eat accordingly to ones goals.
Stamina? For what jogging? Do some front squats, glute bridges, dead lifts, box jumps… That will build real stamina that blows a typical mile or two jog out of the water, not just stamina to move an elliptical or jog. Plus the metabolism is potentially further increased where as lame cardio for endurance has been shown to lower metabolic rate. PLUS, ANOTHER PLUS, is that you're still working the targeted area and creating change faster, if eating is appropriate.
And again, Pilates or cardio will do nothing if the systems aren't fed properly.
People feel some kind of way about "weightlifting" when it's proven time and time again. What it boils down to is females wanted to tell other females some weak sauce or lazier way to make something happen. And as long as you all repeat it, the people that research this stuff for a living are going to criticize the nonsense advice as it should be criticized especially when the rationale is scientifically incorrect.
20 years experience as a misogynist trainer and dietary consultant.
FIFY - 1/10 would not hire.
Glad to see you got your ire out but it's insulting to the women here that are working hard and not about being "weaksauce" or looking for a "lazier way".
Goal-oriented activity and selection of activity that drives consistency are just as important as the exercise itself.
Sure, I believe that squats, glute bridges, etc (and the associated diet) are the most efficient ways of working for a nice butt, however there is absolutely nothing wrong with a program based on other activity if that is your pleasure.
Inline skating, track cycling, mountain biking, stair climbers are all cardio based activity that drive glute use. And while they might not be the most efficient program for butt growth, the most efficient program is the one you do regularly.
So when people here provide different options, rather than belittling them it might be more useful to try to balance between theoretical effectiveness and what people actually do. I personally loath pilates and even if was the worlds best exercise would not do it. The same preferences can be attached to any program...
Your monobloc thinking is monobloc.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
Sorry friend....When somebody says I want to be skinny/thin/other adjective....I agree weights is not required for everyone
When someone specifically asks how to increase the size of a muscle...yes progressively overloading that muscle to force adaptation and eating for such goals is the answer
Well that is just crazy talk.
Right. We're not even talking about a complex side of this stuff. Anybody wanting to shape,tone,lift,tighten, tuck, whatever, is describing a change in skeletal muscle, and that requires intense muscular load and eating to support it. ///
I mean just go do sprints right. Ever seen a sprinter that didn't have glutes? Same reason people are talking about skating. It's a ton of gluteal extension. Now find a high level sprinter or skater that eats at a deficit. Don't hold your breath. They eat to support the added mass(sculpting or toning, this is what you're doing, adding mass to the muscle) The problem is that how practical is it for a person to incorporate sprinting or skating or biking into their life?
More people bike the world over than weight lift. But never mind that, your last sentence is the fulcrum - the practical solution is to add the activity that is practical and allows for consistent practice and is aligned to your overall total goals. If one enjoys practicing a specific sport or activity - without detracting from it, weight lifting does not substitute the learned neurological adaptation of practicing the movements of that activity.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
Pilates will "tone" your whatever because it's loaded muscle. Why not achieve your goal ten times faster by adding ten times more intensity and eat accordingly to ones goals.
Stamina? For what jogging? Do some front squats, glute bridges, dead lifts, box jumps… That will build real stamina that blows a typical mile or two jog out of the water, not just stamina to move an elliptical or jog. Plus the metabolism is potentially further increased where as lame cardio for endurance has been shown to lower metabolic rate. PLUS, ANOTHER PLUS, is that you're still working the targeted area and creating change faster, if eating is appropriate.
And again, Pilates or cardio will do nothing if the systems aren't fed properly.
People feel some kind of way about "weightlifting" when it's proven time and time again. What it boils down to is females wanted to tell other females some weak sauce or lazier way to make something happen. And as long as you all repeat it, the people that research this stuff for a living are going to criticize the nonsense advice as it should be criticized especially when the rationale is scientifically incorrect.
20 years experience as a misogynist trainer and dietary consultant.
FIFY - 1/10 would not hire.
Glad to see you got your ire out but it's insulting to the women here that are working hard and not about being "weaksauce" or looking for a "lazier way".
Goal-oriented activity and selection of activity that drives consistency are just as important as the exercise itself.
Sure, I believe that squats, glute bridges, etc (and the associated diet) are the most efficient ways of working for a nice butt, however there is absolutely nothing wrong with a program based on other activity if that is your pleasure.
Inline skating, track cycling, mountain biking, stair climbers are all cardio based activity that drive glute use. And while they might not be the most efficient program for butt growth, the most efficient program is the one you do regularly.
So when people here provide different options, rather than belittling them it might be more useful to try to balance between theoretical effectiveness and what people actually do. I personally loath pilates and even if was the worlds best exercise would not do it. The same preferences can be attached to any program...
Your monobloc thinking is monobloc.
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Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
Pilates will "tone" your whatever because it's loaded muscle. Why not achieve your goal ten times faster by adding ten times more intensity and eat accordingly to ones goals.
Stamina? For what jogging? Do some front squats, glute bridges, dead lifts, box jumps… That will build real stamina that blows a typical mile or two jog out of the water, not just stamina to move an elliptical or jog. Plus the metabolism is potentially further increased where as lame cardio for endurance has been shown to lower metabolic rate. PLUS, ANOTHER PLUS, is that you're still working the targeted area and creating change faster, if eating is appropriate.
And again, Pilates or cardio will do nothing if the systems aren't fed properly.
People feel some kind of way about "weightlifting" when it's proven time and time again. What it boils down to is females wanted to tell other females some weak sauce or lazier way to make something happen. And as long as you all repeat it, the people that research this stuff for a living are going to criticize the nonsense advice as it should be criticized especially when the rationale is scientifically incorrect.
20 years experience as a misogynist trainer and dietary consultant.
FIFY - 1/10 would not hire.
Glad to see you got your ire out but it's insulting to the women here that are working hard and not about being "weaksauce" or looking for a "lazier way".
Goal-oriented activity and selection of activity that drives consistency are just as important as the exercise itself.
Sure, I believe that squats, glute bridges, etc (and the associated diet) are the most efficient ways of working for a nice butt, however there is absolutely nothing wrong with a program based on other activity if that is your pleasure.
Inline skating, track cycling, mountain biking, stair climbers are all cardio based activity that drive glute use. And while they might not be the most efficient program for butt growth, the most efficient program is the one you do regularly.
So when people here provide different options, rather than belittling them it might be more useful to try to balance between theoretical effectiveness and what people actually do. I personally loath pilates and even if was the worlds best exercise would not do it. The same preferences can be attached to any program...
Your monobloc thinking is monobloc.0 -
Hahahaha
I'm so annoyed with these weightlifting yuppies.
If you don't want stamina for **** go ahead ..
Otherwise do Pilates and stick with some cardio(it's amazing how well it tones your body).
=experience/track runner.
lolwut?
Sorry friend....When somebody says I want to be skinny/thin/other adjective....I agree weights is not required for everyone
When someone specifically asks how to increase the size of a muscle...yes progressively overloading that muscle to force adaptation and eating for such goals is the answer
Well that is just crazy talk.
Right. We're not even talking about a complex side of this stuff. Anybody wanting to shape,tone,lift,tighten, tuck, whatever, is describing a change in skeletal muscle, and that requires intense muscular load and eating to support it. ///
I mean just go do sprints right. Ever seen a sprinter that didn't have glutes? Same reason people are talking about skating. It's a ton of gluteal extension. Now find a high level sprinter or skater that eats at a deficit. Don't hold your breath. They eat to support the added mass(sculpting or toning, this is what you're doing, adding mass to the muscle) The problem is that how practical is it for a person to incorporate sprinting or skating or biking into their life?
More people bike the world over than weight lift. But never mind that, your last sentence is the fulcrum - the practical solution is to add the activity that is practical and allows for consistent practice and is aligned to your overall total goals. If one enjoys practicing a specific sport or activity - without detracting from it, weight lifting does not substitute the learned neurological adaptation of practicing the movements of that activity.
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Your *kitten* might be disappearing because you're in a deficit, not because of cardio.
Maybe reduce the deficit and do what everyone else has suggested.0 -
:laugh: This is great! Worth every penny I'm paying for this.
Here's some exercises for your rear.
http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/workout/butt/exercises/our-top-10-exercises-to-tone-your-butt/?page=1
Best thing for the legs would be some weights. If you don't have access, try riding your bike or doing some rollerblading/ice skating.
Good luck.0
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