phil robertson suspended from duck dynasty
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I applaud his character and integrity to freely answer the question without the fear or worry of losing his job. What job is worth that sacrifice?
I have to agree with this. He was asked a question. At least he didnn't sugar coat it or create an answer that he thought the public would want to hear. Since the start of the show he has held true to his convictions. I may not agree with his beliefs but I think he is strong to stick with it. These aren't questions that anyone should be asked in the first place. This was a question that is known to stir controversy, to an openly religious man. What did everyone expect?
Wholeheartedly agree here. As open as the Robertsons have been about their beliefs, was this really a surprise to anyone? Could he have worded it perhaps with a bit more tact?... Yes. But that's never been their style. They are very out there and speak as the words come to mind. From the original story I read, his opinion sounded a lot more put together, but in reading verbatim, I was disappointed in the wording and manner he portrayed his opinion in. Do I think it's right for A&E to have cut him out? No, not really, he's never hidden his opinions before. But it is their right to do so as it is his right to say what he wishes to say. It's not like this brings about any hardship for his family.0 -
Not really sure putting homosexuality on the same level as beastiality is respectful.I didn't hear exactly what He said. But I keep hearing 1st amendment and all that. Lol. This is NOT a first amendment issue. If you think it is, you might want to go back to school and study up on what the 1st amendment is. Or, go live in a country where you don't have the right to free speech, and you'll find out quickly, what it means.
While anyone can say anything without persecution, sort of, there are consequences to saying certain things. Especially when you spew hate towards a group of people.
While many like to think that homosexuality is wrong or something, the fact is, many of those people are our brothers, sisters, parents, etc, and even though I'm not gay, I take huge offense to bigotry and closed-mindedness. It's not ok. It's not.
If I said something about gays in a derogatory way at work, I would be fired. Just like if I said something about any race or religion. I have the right to say it, but the private company that employs me has the right to have rules that do not discriminate towards others.
It's shameful that people can't just accept what is.
He was very respectful in the way he said he disagreed with their lifestyle.
maybe I only saw part of the article in the one I read he said He thinks it is a sin but he doesnt judge and god will sort it out!0 -
I have a strong feeling that the majority of people replying haven't read the transcripts by Mr Robertson lol
I have. Did he go a little overboard? Sure. Is it reason for suspending him from the show for his vocalization of his well known beliefs? Debatable. I like debating on things like this. I think it's interesting to see how each side reacts to the other with blanket statements, generalities, pointing fingers, etc.
My main issues, as I've previously mentioned, are that he was suspended for beliefs A&E knew he held, and secondly that if roles were reversed no one would have been suspended.0 -
BS. Nothing that he said was out of line. Hate/prejudice? Sounded more like preference. And the preference of the majority of the human race.
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why is this show even a subject to talk about?
why are these people's lives even worth nothing? seriously- dumbest EVER.
I can't believe this is even a thread. ... even worse why I bothered to comment.
< and no I've never watched it>
that being said- if he was asked- he had a right to voice his opinion- right or wrong.
This. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion no matter how offensive it may be to someone else. But don't get pissed because the people who were offended voice their OPINION. The problem here is his opinion will affect their income. If you work for me and your opinion cost me money. Your *kitten* is gone. If you would keep someone as an employee that cost of money you are not a very smart business person. Sometimes you need to keep your freaking opinion to yourself. We all have opinions we don't voice for different reasons.
Hysterically- it's not even his job. Seriously- these people are rich because of something else. This is just something they are doing- because... well it's apparently what our national media outlets have deemed we like- why is beyond me. but whatever- they have their own show. and chia pet heads- and towls- and mugs- and all sorts of other stupid crap.
Why they are famous is beyond me... it's not like he is losing ANYTHING on this. People who buy duck whistles probably are going to side with him anyway- and the rest of them probably don't care- the percentage of people who REALLY disagree with him probably aren't out buying duck whistles- and even the small percentage of people purchasing duck whistles who DO NOT agree- probably are going to 'boycott' purchasing THAT duck whistle- that number is going to be so abysmally low it's won't even be a blip on the sales radar.
If anything this is just going to make his sales better.0 -
Wow, the ignorance displayed by some of you is absolutely disgusting to me. This is 2013. If you can't accept that homosexual Americans are here to stay, deserve the same rights as everyone else without being shamed as well as being told "majority rules" you truly should go back under the rock you crawled out from under.
I stopped by this thread with the hopes we had more open-minded people on here, obviously not. Happy to know the "majority rules" I am less of a citizen and two steps away from sleeping with an animal
This seems like a very defensive statement. Maybe step back for a moment and read the thread again. No one is arguing if homosexuality is right or wrong. The discussion is about if Phil Robertson should've been suspended over a question he answered with what he saw as truth, even if it's not something you or I or anyone else may agree with.0 -
WE are all allowed our opinions. As with everything this country is turning into, it depends on which side of the fence you lean as to whether you will face consequences or not. He did not deserve this. He was asked, he stated. Right, wrong, indifferent, our constitution allows us to express our opinion without fear of backlash. But again, it depends on what side of the fence you are on. He was not hateful in what he stated.0
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Which of his rights have been violated?I HAVE gay friends and relatives HOWEVER I don't want or need a dude! Doesn't mean I am prejudice. His rights have been violated. I watched the show for the first time last night. I really liked it and hope they can resolve this silly issue.0 -
I HAVE gay friends and relatives HOWEVER I don't want or need a dude! Doesn't mean I am prejudice. His rights have been violated. I watched the show for the first time last night. I really liked it and hope they can resolve this silly issue.
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Wait...we were *surprised* that a redneck from Louisiana is uncomfortable with "the gays"? Really? Who was caught off guard by that revelation?
LOL yeah- that's pretty much my thought too- I have no idea why this is even a thing.0 -
WE are all allowed our opinions. As with everything this country is turning into, it depends on which side of the fence you lean as to whether you will face consequences or not. He did not deserve this. He was asked, he stated. Right, wrong, indifferent, our constitution allows us to express our opinion without fear of backlash. But again, it depends on what side of the fence you are on. He was not hateful in what he stated.
Without fear of backlash FROM THE GOVERNMENT. Last time I checked, A&E was not the government.0 -
but its notThe fun experiment for this would be what if a gay guy from X corporation stands up on national TV and expresses his views on homosexuality and in turn gets fired from the company for expressing his views.
Oh how fast would a lawsuit be spun up yet its the exact same concept. Just some food for thought.
he compares beastiality to gay sex
From reading the transcript I guess we have different definitions of the word "compare."0 -
why is this show even a subject to talk about?
why are these people's lives even worth nothing? seriously- dumbest EVER.
I can't believe this is even a thread. ... even worse why I bothered to comment.
< and no I've never watched it>
that being said- if he was asked- he had a right to voice his opinion- right or wrong.
This. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion no matter how offensive it may be to someone else. But don't get pissed because the people who were offended voice their OPINION. The problem here is his opinion will affect their income. If you work for me and your opinion cost me money. Your *kitten* is gone. If you would keep someone as an employee that cost of money you are not a very smart business person. Sometimes you need to keep your freaking opinion to yourself. We all have opinions we don't voice for different reasons.
Hysterically- it's not even his job. Seriously- these people are rich because of something else. This is just something they are doing- because... well it's apparently what our national media outlets have deemed we like- why is beyond me. but whatever- they have their own show. and chia pet heads- and towls- and mugs- and all sorts of other stupid crap.
Why they are famous is beyond me... it's not like he is losing ANYTHING on this. People who buy duck whistles probably are going to side with him anyway- and the rest of them probably don't care- the percentage of people who REALLY disagree with him probably aren't out buying duck whistles- and even the small percentage of people purchasing duck whistles who DO NOT agree- probably are going to 'boycott' purchasing THAT duck whistle- that number is going to be so abysmally low it's won't even be a blip on the sales radar.
If anything this is just going to make his sales better.
Kind of like the Kardashian's...or any other dumbass 'reality' show...0 -
By suspending him from the show, A & E has given more publicity and exposure to Phil's words than he ever could have on his own.
It's called the Streisand effect0 -
your opinion is reflected back on your job when you work in the public eye.
People get fired at my job all the time because of facebook posts spouting opinions the organization does not reflect.
sorry phil, but you got what you asked for........hate/prejudice comments are not protected under freedom of speech
I completely agree that people tend to judge a company by its employees. However, on a topic such as this, I think it's dispicable that both he was suspended, and that people will use his personal beliefs against his employer. Since when were we not allowed to believe whatever the hell we want?0 -
WE are all allowed our opinions. As with everything this country is turning into, it depends on which side of the fence you lean as to whether you will face consequences or not. He did not deserve this. He was asked, he stated. Right, wrong, indifferent, our constitution allows us to express our opinion without fear of backlash from the government. But again, it depends on what side of the fence you are on. He was not hateful in what he stated.
Fixed it for you ....0 -
My biggest issue overall is that A&E used to show educational, interesting, quality shows. Now it's all cheap, crappy reality TV. I couldn't tell you the last time I watched anything on that channel.
I saw we boycott A&E for that reason alone.0 -
WE are all allowed our opinions. As with everything this country is turning into, it depends on which side of the fence you lean as to whether you will face consequences or not. He did not deserve this. He was asked, he stated. Right, wrong, indifferent, our constitution allows us to express our opinion without fear of backlash. But again, it depends on what side of the fence you are on. He was not hateful in what he stated.
Without fear of backlash FROM THE GOVERNMENT. Last time I checked, A&E was not the government.
No, they are not, but every cable company has become like this...and we, as American people, have allowed it.0 -
Never seen more than ten minutes of one show, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. They should be allowed to answer a question in an interview without repercussion. PERIOD! This PC crap is nothing but.0
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i love how people are saying he should sue. sue for what? was his freedom of speech violated? last time i saw he wasnt arrested for his comments.
now, should be people be arrested for being stupid enough to believe that freedom of speech is some type of shield that people arent allowed to disagree and hold you accountable for your idiotic thoughts? no, that isnt what freedom of speech means.
and for anyone in this day and age to equate homosexuality to beastiality shows what an ignorant wipe of a buttocks they are, but then again believing in a fairy tale of a book to be your moral compass, i wouldnt expect much different0 -
I bet he loves a bit of ****, talk about a beird ffs lol0
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Never seen more than ten minutes of one show, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. They should be allowed to answer a question in an interview. PERIOD! This PC crap is nothing but.
He *was* allowed to answer a question in an interview ....0 -
My biggest issue overall is that A&E used to show educational, interesting, quality shows. Now it's all cheap, crappy reality TV. I couldn't tell you the last time I watched anything on that channel.
I saw we boycott A&E for that reason alone.
I only watch REAL networks. The big 3, ESPN, Disney and the Food Network.0 -
It wasn't just about homosexuality...Robertson also made comments about blacks in the GQ article.0
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why is this show even a subject to talk about?
why are these people's lives even worth nothing? seriously- dumbest EVER.
I can't believe this is even a thread. ... even worse why I bothered to comment.
< and no I've never watched it>
that being said- if he was asked- he had a right to voice his opinion- right or wrong.
Yup. :flowerforyou:0 -
WE are all allowed our opinions. As with everything this country is turning into, it depends on which side of the fence you lean as to whether you will face consequences or not. He did not deserve this. He was asked, he stated. Right, wrong, indifferent, our constitution allows us to express our opinion without fear of backlash. But again, it depends on what side of the fence you are on. He was not hateful in what he stated.
Without fear of backlash FROM THE GOVERNMENT. Last time I checked, A&E was not the government.
No, they are not, but every cable company has become like this...and we, as American people, have allowed it.
And you are well within your rights to organize a boycott of the channels you don't agree with. Or, better yet, organize a boycott of companies who advertise on shows/channels you find offensive. Because that's what really makes these kind of programming decisions; advertising dollars.0 -
This sounds like a setup from the media. Who didn't already know that him, and probably the rest of them, feel that way? Sheesh.0
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It wasn't just about homosexuality...Robertson also made comments about blacks in the GQ article.
Pretty sure Oprah wish/ordered death upon many a caucasions and I don't recall any lashback on her career...0 -
If they didn't want his true opinion, they shouldn't have asked the question.
If they WANTED his true opinion, they should leave him alone and let him have and express it.
Meanwhile, they may hate the man and EVERYTHING the man stands for, and wanted to see him fired they knew how to get it done.0 -
Source?It wasn't just about homosexuality...Robertson also made comments about blacks in the GQ article.
Pretty sure Oprah wish/ordered death upon many a caucasions and I don't recall any lashback on her career...0
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