How to measure calories of Haagen Dazs ice cream?

Mother_Superior

Sarauk2sf

Also:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/protein-intake-while-dieting-qa.html

"While less data on this group is available, bodybuilders and athletes have long used a protein intake of 2.2 g/kg (1 g/lb) lean body mass as a generalized intake level and as folks get very lean, intakes of 3.3 g/kg (1.5 g/lb) of lean body mass may be required to stave off muscle loss while dieting. In some very extreme cases, such as the near protein only diet approach of my own Rapid Fat Loss Handbook even higher protein intakes may be required for very lean individuals.

So basically we have an intake continuum ranging from about 1.5 g/kg (0.68 g/lb) as a minimum for the obese non-training individual up to a high of around 3.3 g/kg (1.5 g/lb) of protein per pound of lean body mass for very lean heavily training athletes or bodybuilders with middle ground values being found in between those two extremes. You’ll note that I didn’t put any of those values in terms of percentages for reasons discussed in Diet Percentages: Part 1 and Diet Percentages: Part 2."

If you are going to use an appeal to authority...at least get it right.

Hmmm...I think I see LBM mentioned.

Bad logic.

Please expand. Your response was less than enlightening.

Oh, and still waiting for actual sources. Not some reference to a book. Thank you

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

vjohn04

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

(don't worry, it fits the cat's macros)

delicious_cocktail

Is Pu done yet or is he still going?

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

sjohnny

(don't worry, it fits the cat's macros)

Good logic

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

vjohn04

allaboutthecake

you can't buy happiness there dude







(edited: kitteh gots ice cream paws on keyboard)

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

vjohn04

sjohnny

How much LBM is in this gif so I can weigh ml of grams and increase my BF.

vjohn04

like!

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

It's amusing me that the gif derail is more on topic than the original derail

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

How much LBM is in this gif so I can weigh ml of grams and increase my BF.

That's plagiarist!

vjohn04

We need cake with ice cream...

allaboutthecake

Fishshtick

Easy, weigh and eat only that style of Haagen Dazs until you gain 10lbs. Then divide 35,000 calories by the mass of ice cream you consumed to get calories per unit mass of ice cream. I call it the human calorimeter approach.

jofjltncb6

It's amusing me that the gif derail is more on topic than the original derail

I like how I'm going to have a few servings of ice cream later tonight (with a little protein powder) after my workout to reach my protein goals for the day.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

We need cake with ice cream...

IN! (I'm out of ice cream gifs anyway)

allaboutthecake

We need cake with ice cream...

And CAKE

PikaKnight

allaboutthecake

QuietBloom

Now I have REALLY seen it all! :laugh:

PikaKnight

BroSciencePhD

*whips out Vitriol Protection Shield*

Isn't protein intake based on LBM because basing it on current (over)weight isn't really productive. For example if I weighed 245 and wanted to get down to 179 (yes, i said it) there would be no point in eating grams of protein based on 245 pounds.

Am I understanding this correctly?

And, you know, I'm just going to say this out of sheer compulsion. A varied vocabulary is not a sign of arrogance. Deeming people arrogant based on vocabulary sure the **** is. I used a four letter word for general comprehension. Fornication for those not offended by diversity of language.

In my bad science, no nothing opinion, basically, yes, that is correct. Studies generally have not used LBM as the methods for measuring BF% are pretty inaccurate and the more accurate ones were generally cost prohibitive. Quoting g per LBM is a decent rule of thumb to use when giving generic advice that is not catered to the individuals circumstances. You have the same issue with fats as well (a point missed by a certain someone), which is why we note that the rules of thumb are not applicable for very lean or significantly overweight people.

Once again bad logic.
g per LBM is a decent rule of thumb. Getting accurate reading for LBM is too costly. So the general population has no real measure of LBM, so their protein intakes are inaccurate.

The rules for protein intake are 0.5-1.5g per pound. So obese people can use these recommendations. A 600lbs peron can eat 300g of protein a day. This would have a better thermogenic effect than the theoretical LBM method.

So in both instances the LBM method fails.

Whose rules?

Please cite sources.

I would hate to not give you the chance to credit people appropriately so you do not get accused of bad science or plagiarism. It's for the greater good!

Lyle Mcdonald

LMAO. Talk about an appeal to authority. While I am a fan of Lyle's, you really need to do better than that. After all, you were provided with links to an actual peer reviewed study.

How about some links to actual research?

If you're a fan of Lyle's you probbaly have his protein book. Go look up the references in there.

Yes I do.

You made the assertion, you provide the support.

Thus, for athletes desiring
muscle hypertrophy, there is little reason to limit
protein intake and relatively high intakes might be the
best recommendation. Of course, muscle anabolism
may be enhanced by varying the type and timing of
protein and amino acid ingestion. Even if 2.5–3.0 g
protein per kg per day is consumed and this amount
of protein is more than the synthetic machinery can
process, the excess will simply be oxidized. As long as
the intake of other nutrients important to the success of
an athlete is not compromised, there appears to be little
harm in ingesting these high amounts. Furthermore,
this amount of protein may be considered to be
reasonable given the high energy intakes in these
athletes.
http://www.uni.edu/dolgener/Advanced_Sport_Nutrition/protein_intake.pdf
Exact study referenced in the book.

protein effects on satiety.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-3010.2009.01753.x/pdf

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

vjohn04