you can't lose stomach fat if you don't eat "clean"?

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  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    ^^This...
  • Laquincy
    Laquincy Posts: 76 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    Why sugars?

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.
  • Laquincy
    Laquincy Posts: 76 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.
  • Laquincy
    Laquincy Posts: 76 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.
  • It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    Why sugars?

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    this week I've had a bag of M&M's or half a bag of gummy bears almost everyday. BUT, the rest of my meals were eggs, Greek yogurt, baked chicken, quinoa, roasted veggies and protein shakes. If it fits... :wink:
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.
  • stefaniemazz
    stefaniemazz Posts: 179 Member
    Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?

    I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.

    What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?

    It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.

    People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    Doesn't matter what you meant. Sugar is irrelevant.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?

    I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.

    What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?

    It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.

    People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.

    Protip: diet books and stuff are all BS.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    Of course it's not him. It's an NFL player who has been using HGH and steroids for 10 years.
  • sweetpea03b
    sweetpea03b Posts: 1,123 Member
    Deficit. Keep in mind that you need to maintain a good strength training routine to keep from burning muscle along with the fat.
  • stefaniemazz
    stefaniemazz Posts: 179 Member
    Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?

    I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.

    What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?

    It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.

    People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.

    Protip: diet books and stuff are all BS.

    Good to know.

    Also, I have a cheat/re-feed day on Saturdays where I pretty much just eat junk. And by junk, I mean McDonalds for Lunch, going out for dinner, having some chips. Should I stop doing that? I feel like it helps though.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    Of course it's not him. It's an NFL player who has been using HGH and steroids for 10 years.

    and probably consumes a boatload of high fructose corn syrup from gatorade alone...
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?

    I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.

    What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?

    It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.

    People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.

    Protip: diet books and stuff are all BS.

    Good to know.

    Also, I have a cheat/re-feed day on Saturdays where I pretty much just eat junk. And by junk, I mean McDonalds for Lunch, going out for dinner, having some chips. Should I stop doing that? I feel like it helps though.

    Look at my ticker then guess what I'm going to say.

    It doesn't matter where you eat. You can eat McDonald's every day and succeed just fine. Just mind your calories. If you know you're going to go over on Saturdays it makes sense to eat a little less through the week. It's entirely possible for one very bad day to erase a week's worth of calorie deficit though, so if this is going to be a weekly thing you really need to plan ahead for it and do it with some level of moderation.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.

    Keep an eye towards variety to insure you get all your nutrients... so in that essence, have both.
  • molonlabe762
    molonlabe762 Posts: 411 Member
    Deficit and exercise.
  • Topsking2010
    Topsking2010 Posts: 2,245 Member
    Checkout Michi Ladder
  • Laquincy
    Laquincy Posts: 76 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    Of course it's not him. It's an NFL player who has been using HGH and steroids for 10 years.

    It clearly states in my profile desciption that its not me...I'm not pretending to be anyone, I have personal pic as well up as well. That's just motivation.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    It clearly states in my profile desciption that its not me...I'm not pretending to be anyone, I have personal pic as well up as well. That's just motivation.

    Just FYI, your profile and pictures are private so people who are not your friends see this image and nothing else.
  • stefaniemazz
    stefaniemazz Posts: 179 Member
    Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?

    I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.

    What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?

    It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.

    People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.

    Protip: diet books and stuff are all BS.

    Good to know.

    Also, I have a cheat/re-feed day on Saturdays where I pretty much just eat junk. And by junk, I mean McDonalds for Lunch, going out for dinner, having some chips. Should I stop doing that? I feel like it helps though.

    Look at my ticker then guess what I'm going to say.

    It doesn't matter where you eat. You can eat McDonald's every day and succeed just fine. Just mind your calories. If you know you're going to go over on Saturdays it makes sense to eat a little less through the week. It's entirely possible for one very bad day to erase a week's worth of calorie deficit though, so if this is going to be a weekly thing you really need to plan ahead for it and do it with some level of moderation.

    I do, my TDEE -20% is 1600 calories, I eat about 1300 calories during the week and on Saturday I eat about 3500, it all equals out at the end of the week. And I always tend to lose weight after a cheat day.

    Normally I don't log my cheat days, but I am going to start.
  • Lesa_Sass
    Lesa_Sass Posts: 2,213 Member
    There is a lot of varying advice here. Basically I am of the opinion if I see someone that has something I want, I do what they do to get it. So, if you see someones body on here you like, check out their diet and exercise diaries to see what they do.

    You will see some people that eat 1200 calories a day, no exercise.
    You will see people that eat 3000 calories a day but burn 1500 calories through exercise
    Then you will see people that eat a moderate amount of food and burn a moderate amount of calories.

    So, there will be people that tell you that you can eat pizza and drink soda, but spend 3 hours a day in the gym (nothing wrong with that, better than spending 3 hour a day in the bar) There will be people that tell you to eat clean and the only exercise they log is 120 minutes of "light to moderate cleaning" in their house. Its all about what you want and what fits into your lifestyle, and macros.

    As far as the ground turkey vs beef debate, it depends on what exactly you are eating. Ground turkey can have more fat than beef. I like to get organic chicken breast from costco and put it in my food processor.

    Good luck and try not to get all these conflicting answers confuse you. No one is necessarily wrong, you just need to find out what is right for you.
  • Laquincy
    Laquincy Posts: 76 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    So you would give a 20 yr old girl who wants a little defintion in her abs the same advice youd give a competitve bodybuilder....
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    for me it's all about deficit
  • Laquincy
    Laquincy Posts: 76 Member
    It clearly states in my profile desciption that its not me...I'm not pretending to be anyone, I have personal pic as well up as well. That's just motivation.

    Just FYI, your profile and pictures are private so people who are not your friends see this image and nothing else.

    I know that, if they wanted to see others they would send a request.
  • MaryMBacon
    MaryMBacon Posts: 94 Member
    you cannot spot reduce and anyone who claims this is selling you snake oil
    if you strengthen your abs you will appear slimmer by "sucking in your gut" but you will NOT lose fat
    Having said that stronger abs also help reduce the risk of back injuries so by all means work the abs but these belly fat cleansers and supplements that melt away belly fat are all scams.
    the ONLY way to lose belly fat is to lose weight, the body picks where it comes from and usually it chooses to lose all over evenly.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    So you would give a 20 yr old girl who wants a little defintion in her abs the same advice youd give a competitve bodybuilder....

    I wasn't always a bodybuilder. I used to be obese. I gave advice on page one that I used to drop body fat.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1161603-so-you-want-a-nice-stomach
  • It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    Of course it's not him. It's an NFL player who has been using HGH and steroids for 10 years.

    It clearly states in my profile desciption that its not me...I'm not pretending to be anyone, I have personal pic as well up as well. That's just motivation.

    as a friend on my list, I can vouch for the fact that he states he uses his profile picture as motivation.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    So you would give a 20 yr old girl who wants a little defintion in her abs the same advice youd give a competitve bodybuilder....

    I would, yeah. Turns out that a 20 year old female's body works pretty much the same way as a bodybuilder's.

    I'm following the exact same principles at 10% body fat that I did at 40%.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.

    I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.

    Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.

    When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.

    I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).

    I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.

    Of course it's not him. It's an NFL player who has been using HGH and steroids for 10 years.

    It clearly states in my profile desciption that its not me...I'm not pretending to be anyone, I have personal pic as well up as well. That's just motivation.

    as a friend on my list, I can vouch for the fact that he states he uses his profile picture as motivation.

    I don't doubt that he's telling the truth, just pointing out that this is not apparent to someone who is not his friend.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    So you would give a 20 yr old girl who wants a little defintion in her abs the same advice youd give a competitve bodybuilder....

    Yes...