you can't lose stomach fat if you don't eat "clean"?
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I don't doubt that he's telling the truth, just pointing out that this is not apparent to someone who is not his friend.
I know. I was just saying he does state that.
Also, I'm a bikini competitor and aspiring fitness model and would also tell a 20 year the same thing as the others and I came from the anorexic side, but still had to lose body fat.0 -
Oh boy.....It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.
I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.
Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.
When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.
I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).
I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.
So you would give a 20 yr old girl who wants a little defintion in her abs the same advice youd give a competitve bodybuilder....
I would, yeah. Turns out that a 20 year old female's body works pretty much the same way as a bodybuilder's.0 -
Realize that everyone metabolism/body fuctions and responds completely different. Not everyone is the same. What works for you may not work for the next person. You can't tell a normal indivdual who has basic diet/exercise princapls to eat they same way/things a competive athlete does...but that's JMO.0
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It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.
Thank you ma'am
I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.
Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.
When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.
I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).
I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.
Of course it's not him. It's an NFL player who has been using HGH and steroids for 10 years.
It clearly states in my profile desciption that its not me...I'm not pretending to be anyone, I have personal pic as well up as well. That's just motivation.
as a friend on my list, I can vouch for the fact that he states he uses his profile picture as motivation.0 -
It's all body fat %...how can muscles show if they are covered by layers of fat...proper diet(stay away from sugars), and exercising and you should see results.
Thank you
I'm almost always over on my sugar intake, but only because I eat quite a bit of fruit.
Don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with sugar. Quit tracking sugar entirely.
When i meant sugars, I meant sucrose and high fructose corn syrup(i.e. cakes, cookies, etc) Even though fructose is in fruit. Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.
I eat cake, cookies, ice cream, cereal, chocolate, etc. I have visible abs (and am a competitive female bodybuilder).
I also know your profile picture is not a picture of you.
Of course it's not him. It's an NFL player who has been using HGH and steroids for 10 years.
It clearly states in my profile desciption that its not me...I'm not pretending to be anyone, I have personal pic as well up as well. That's just motivation.
as a friend on my list, I can vouch for the fact that he states he uses his profile picture as motivation.0 -
It does matter what you eat. I am a RN, a clean eater and that is my opinion. To get the skinny abs you want yes it is important to exercise but 90% of it is nutrition. Granted you can get fat eating clean if you calories go over your defecit but I myself have a hard time getting in my calories. I don't do low carb, not paleo or vegetarian. I eat non processed 80-90% of the time and when I eat processed like mc donalds it makes me ill. So you are saying the calories in a mcdonalds whopper is the same of eating whole like foods, really???
My story- I was over 100 pounds overweight in june when I walked into a gym near my job. My blood pressure was very high, and I felt horrible. I could barely get through my job of being an Intensive care nurse and knew I needed to do something. A new gym opened and our hospital insurance offered a 6 month free membership. I walked in and met a trainer who was kind and motivating he got me started on a cardio and weight training program and a clean eating program to follow.
I by December lost 60 pounds. I lost 32 inches overall. This was on my bust, waist (10inches), hips (6 inches) and arms and thighs. I went from a size 24 to a size 16. I am only around halfway there.
Over the holidays I went back to my old habits, not crazy but eating junk and cookies and hamburgers out and the weight piled on. I just got back to it last week and losing what I gained so I can continue.
Clean eating does matter. I have done every diet there is, nutrisystem, weight watchers, jenny craig but clean eating is the only thing that worked. I am not saying if you did ww or jc or another diet it won't work but it did not for me.
how much do I exercise??? 3-4 days a week around 60 min. So you don't have to exercise like a crazy person.0 -
It does matter what you eat. I am a RN, a clean eater and that is my opinion. To get the skinny abs you want yes it is important to exercise but 90% of it is nutrition. Granted you can get fat eating clean if you calories go over your defecit but I myself have a hard time getting in my calories. I don't do low carb, not paleo or vegetarian. I eat non processed 80-90% of the time and when I eat processed like mc donalds it makes me ill. So you are saying the calories in a mcdonalds whopper is the same of eating whole like foods, really???
My story- I was over 100 pounds overweight in june when I walked into a gym near my job. My blood pressure was very high, and I felt horrible. I could barely get through my job of being an Intensive care nurse and knew I needed to do something. A new gym opened and our hospital insurance offered a 6 month free membership. I walked in and met a trainer who was kind and motivating he got me started on a cardio and weight training program and a clean eating program to follow. I by December lost 60 pounds. I lost 32 inches. on my bust, waist (10inches), hips (6 inches) and arms and thighs. I went from a size 24 to a size 16. I am only around halfway there.
Over the holidays I went back to my old habits, not crazy but eating junk and cookies and hamburgers out and the weight piled on. I just got back to it last week and losing what I gained so I can continue.
Clean eating does matter. I have done every diet there is, nutrisystem, weight watchers, jenny craig but clean eating is the only thing that worked.
how much do I exercise??? 3-4 days a week around 60 min. So you don't have to exercise like a crazy person.
Define what it means to eat clean... good luck.0 -
Over the holidays I went back to my old habits, not crazy but eating junk and cookies and hamburgers out and the weight piled on. I just got back to it last week and losing what I gained so I can continue.
Did you log the food during that time frame? I'm willing to bet you were eating more than your body burns. Much of the "junk food" tends to be calorie dense and not filling. We aren't saying she can get away with eating fast food burgers and fries for every meal plus a huge bowl of ice cream at the end of the day. We're saying if a treat keeps her in a calorie deficit and she hits her macros there is no reason to eat chicken, rice and vegetables all day every day.0 -
It does matter what you eat. I am a RN, a clean eater and that is my opinion. To get the skinny abs you want yes it is important to exercise but 90% of it is nutrition. Granted you can get fat eating clean if you calories go over your defecit but I myself have a hard time getting in my calories. I don't do low carb, not paleo or vegetarian. I eat non processed 80-90% of the time and when I eat processed like mc donalds it makes me ill. So you are saying the calories in a mcdonalds whopper is the same of eating whole like foods, really???
My story- I was over 100 pounds overweight in june when I walked into a gym near my job. My blood pressure was very high, and I felt horrible. I could barely get through my job of being an Intensive care nurse and knew I needed to do something. A new gym opened and our hospital insurance offered a 6 month free membership. I walked in and met a trainer who was kind and motivating he got me started on a cardio and weight training program and a clean eating program to follow.
I by December lost 60 pounds. I lost 32 inches overall. This was on my bust, waist (10inches), hips (6 inches) and arms and thighs. I went from a size 24 to a size 16. I am only around halfway there.
Over the holidays I went back to my old habits, not crazy but eating junk and cookies and hamburgers out and the weight piled on. I just got back to it last week and losing what I gained so I can continue.
Clean eating does matter. I have done every diet there is, nutrisystem, weight watchers, jenny craig but clean eating is the only thing that worked. I am not saying if you did ww or jc or another diet it won't work but it did not for me.
how much do I exercise??? 3-4 days a week around 60 min. So you don't have to exercise like a crazy person.
Eh, I like my weekly trip to McDonalds, tastes delicious.0 -
What they mean is eating at a deficit.
What I have personally noticed with myself is that eating clean(er) is actually a by-product of more carefully planning my nutrition to get the macro levels I want in order to physically perform better which in turn helps get lower body fat around my stomach as a secondary effect.0 -
Clean has many meanings to different people. For me it means no processed foods, only whole grain products and fresh. I do eat some snacks from the Naturebox series(it is a mailorder monthly products) but they must be whole grain, no added sugars and gmo. I eat organic when I can. I don't shop at whole foods, I would be handing my paycheck over.
I eat a lot of chicken, fish and very little red meat. I never eat ground meat, sub with 99.7% ground turkey. I will eat beef on occasion but it has to be good beef. I eat tons of kale, spinach and good veggies like squashes, broccoli ect.
Some clean eaters are very specific like no dairy. I eat only greek yogurt no sugar added(usually plain) I add my own fruit. I try to substitute almond milk in my veggie shakes, cereal ect but will drink a little cows milk if a recipe calls for it.
If you eat processed foods and want to lose weight on that fine. Try clean eating for 14 days, yeah sugar withdrawl is rough the first 4-5 days but once you hit week 2 you will be amazed of how you feel and what the number is on the scale.
edited to add: I just saw your post above. I don't feel you need to eat at a defecit. I think you need to fuel your body. I eat a lot of calories especially if it is a weight lifting day.0 -
It does matter what you eat. I am a RN, a clean eater and that is my opinion. To get the skinny abs you want yes it is important to exercise but 90% of it is nutrition. Granted you can get fat eating clean if you calories go over your defecit but I myself have a hard time getting in my calories. I don't do low carb, not paleo or vegetarian. I eat non processed 80-90% of the time and when I eat processed like mc donalds it makes me ill. So you are saying the calories in a mcdonalds whopper is the same of eating whole like foods, really???
My story- I was over 100 pounds overweight in june when I walked into a gym near my job. My blood pressure was very high, and I felt horrible. I could barely get through my job of being an Intensive care nurse and knew I needed to do something. A new gym opened and our hospital insurance offered a 6 month free membership. I walked in and met a trainer who was kind and motivating he got me started on a cardio and weight training program and a clean eating program to follow.
I by December lost 60 pounds. I lost 32 inches overall. This was on my bust, waist (10inches), hips (6 inches) and arms and thighs. I went from a size 24 to a size 16. I am only around halfway there.
Over the holidays I went back to my old habits, not crazy but eating junk and cookies and hamburgers out and the weight piled on. I just got back to it last week and losing what I gained so I can continue.
Clean eating does matter. I have done every diet there is, nutrisystem, weight watchers, jenny craig but clean eating is the only thing that worked. I am not saying if you did ww or jc or another diet it won't work but it did not for me.
how much do I exercise??? 3-4 days a week around 60 min. So you don't have to exercise like a crazy person.
Eh, I like my weekly trip to McDonalds, tastes delicious.
And you started this thread because?..............0 -
Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.0 -
It does matter what you eat. I am a RN, a clean eater and that is my opinion. To get the skinny abs you want yes it is important to exercise but 90% of it is nutrition. Granted you can get fat eating clean if you calories go over your defecit but I myself have a hard time getting in my calories. I don't do low carb, not paleo or vegetarian. I eat non processed 80-90% of the time and when I eat processed like mc donalds it makes me ill. So you are saying the calories in a mcdonalds whopper is the same of eating whole like foods, really???
My story- I was over 100 pounds overweight in june when I walked into a gym near my job. My blood pressure was very high, and I felt horrible. I could barely get through my job of being an Intensive care nurse and knew I needed to do something. A new gym opened and our hospital insurance offered a 6 month free membership. I walked in and met a trainer who was kind and motivating he got me started on a cardio and weight training program and a clean eating program to follow.
I by December lost 60 pounds. I lost 32 inches overall. This was on my bust, waist (10inches), hips (6 inches) and arms and thighs. I went from a size 24 to a size 16. I am only around halfway there.
Over the holidays I went back to my old habits, not crazy but eating junk and cookies and hamburgers out and the weight piled on. I just got back to it last week and losing what I gained so I can continue.
Clean eating does matter. I have done every diet there is, nutrisystem, weight watchers, jenny craig but clean eating is the only thing that worked. I am not saying if you did ww or jc or another diet it won't work but it did not for me.
how much do I exercise??? 3-4 days a week around 60 min. So you don't have to exercise like a crazy person.
Eh, I like my weekly trip to McDonalds, tastes delicious.
And you started this thread because?..............
Obviously because I was looking for an answer to my question....0 -
Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.
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Sure, people can lose weight eating junk, but the amount of strain put on the body as it has to filter everything is surely increased significantly
If it's food, then by definition, it isn't "junk." Food is food. Get off your high horse.0 -
Occasionally some of us fatties listen to advice given by people who have obtained lower body fat percentages and have visible abs and we want to share the correct information. Of course, if you dismiss whatever I say, I'm not going to sit in the corner and cry either.Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.0 -
Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.
Woohoo! I fit! Well known. Have abs. Almost 29 (and had two kids while obese).0 -
Fructose Is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit.
Challenge accepted! :bigsmile: :devil:0 -
Realize that everyone metabolism/body fuctions and responds completely different. Not everyone is the same. What works for you may not work for the next person. You can't tell a normal indivdual who has basic diet/exercise princapls to eat they same way/things a competive athlete does...but that's JMO.
:laugh:
But you can (generally) tell an uninformed person by their lack of spelling, grammar.0 -
Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.
I fit all of that. I'm a 36 year old mom of 2 and all of my pictures are of myself. The current is my throwback Thursday, when I was anorexic, but the rest are pretty current. I'm also relatively well known and respected in the MFP community for giving helpful, realistic advice.0 -
A lot of people say "abs are made in the kitchen"
Does that mean, eating a deficit? Or does that mean I have to eat super clean in order to see any definition in my abs?
I relatively healthy, but I don't eat "clean".
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calorie deficit.0 -
Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.
I fit all of that. I'm a 36 year old mom of 2 and all of my pictures are of myself. The current is my throwback Thursday, when I was anorexic, but the rest are pretty current. I'm also relatively well known and respected in the MFP community for giving helpful, realistic advice.
And you're one of the people other should take note when you post.0 -
Clean has many meanings to different people.
If something has too many meanings then by default it has no meaning...0 -
Occasionally some of us fatties listen to advice given by people who have obtained lower body fat percentages and have visible abs and we want to share the correct information. Of course, if you dismiss whatever I say, I'm not going to sit in the corner and cry either.Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.
I don't speak french.0 -
It's not complicated, people want to make it complicated. Deficit to lose weight, exercise to firm it up. Whether you eat 'clean' or not is a personal preference.0
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Also the most important rule around belly fat and abs when it comes to MFP:
Unless the poster is very well known in the fitness community, don't take any ones advice on lower body fat or abs that:
- Doesn't actually have lower body fat percentage or abs themselves
- Is 25 or under (sorry girls and guys..when you hit 26 your body is gonna do some F'd up things to you and not play by the same rules as it has been for the start of your life.) It's not that you didn't earn it, its just different....trust me....you'll see what I'm talking about.
- Has a profile pic of an animal (ie cat, dog, horse, 4 legged creature, parrot?)
Sorry all you 275 lb nutritionist, nurses, and personal trainers, even if you are correct in what you are saying I will still never listen to your advice on subjects like this.
I fit all of that. I'm a 36 year old mom of 2 and all of my pictures are of myself. The current is my throwback Thursday, when I was anorexic, but the rest are pretty current. I'm also relatively well known and respected in the MFP community for giving helpful, realistic advice.
And you're one of the people other should take note when you post.
I'm sorry. What did you say? I was staring at my new washboard...
I kid. Thank you. 0 -
Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?
I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.
What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?
It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.
People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.
Protip: diet books and stuff are all BS.
Good to know.
Also, I have a cheat/re-feed day on Saturdays where I pretty much just eat junk. And by junk, I mean McDonalds for Lunch, going out for dinner, having some chips. Should I stop doing that? I feel like it helps though.
I eat fast food at least three-four times a week. Did this while losing weight and still doing this while successfully maintaining
Eat the way now, that you want to eat for the rest of your life, because the weight loss phase is for a very short period of time compared to the many years of maintenance you have ahead of you. Why box yourself in with meaningless rules and restrictions about the foods you eat, when that's not realistically how you're going to be eating for the next 20, 30, 40+ years? Don't set yourself up for failure.
Right now is the time to focus on learning to remove emotion from eating, what portion sizes are, moderation, break bad eating habits etc. These things will be what separates you from the 95% that fail at long term weight loss success. Eat what you enjoy, learn how to deal with food properly and be happy, healthy and thin 0 -
Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?
I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.
What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?
It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.
People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.
Protip: diet books and stuff are all BS.
Good to know.
Also, I have a cheat/re-feed day on Saturdays where I pretty much just eat junk. And by junk, I mean McDonalds for Lunch, going out for dinner, having some chips. Should I stop doing that? I feel like it helps though.
I eat fast food at least three-four times a week. Did this while losing weight and still doing this while successfully maintaining Eat the way now, that you want to eat for the rest of your life, because the weight loss phase is for a very short period of time compared to the many years of maintenance you have ahead of you. Why box yourself in with meaningless rules and restrictions about the foods you eat, when that's not realistically how you're going to be eating for the next 20, 30, 40+ years? Don't set yourself up for failure.
Right now is the time to focus on learning to remove emotion from eating, what portion sizes are, moderation, break bad eating habits etc. These things will be what separates you from the 95% that fail at long term weight loss success. Eat what you enjoy, learn how to deal with food properly and be happy, healthy and thin
Wow you ate fast food 3 days a week? You look awesome! And you have very flat abs.
Thanks for the advice.0 -
Also, I use Extra Lean Ground Beef (90/10) for my chili instead of Ground Turkey, is that bad?
I know Ground Turkey is healthier because it's lower in fat, but I don't like the taste.
What makes you think ground turkey is "healthier"?
It certainly tastes like crap compared to ground beef.
People say its healthier. All these diet books and stuff say to use Ground Turkey instead of Ground Beef.
Protip: diet books and stuff are all BS.
Good to know.
Also, I have a cheat/re-feed day on Saturdays where I pretty much just eat junk. And by junk, I mean McDonalds for Lunch, going out for dinner, having some chips. Should I stop doing that? I feel like it helps though.
I eat fast food at least three-four times a week. Did this while losing weight and still doing this while successfully maintaining Eat the way now, that you want to eat for the rest of your life, because the weight loss phase is for a very short period of time compared to the many years of maintenance you have ahead of you. Why box yourself in with meaningless rules and restrictions about the foods you eat, when that's not realistically how you're going to be eating for the next 20, 30, 40+ years? Don't set yourself up for failure.
Right now is the time to focus on learning to remove emotion from eating, what portion sizes are, moderation, break bad eating habits etc. These things will be what separates you from the 95% that fail at long term weight loss success. Eat what you enjoy, learn how to deal with food properly and be happy, healthy and thin
Wow you ate fast food 3 days a week? You look awesome! And you have very flat abs.
Thanks for the advice.
3 times a week is nothing. Sometimes I eat fast food three times a *day*.0
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