Parasites controling your cravings. How true?

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  • MizTerry
    MizTerry Posts: 3,763 Member
    There was a very old method used at the turn of the century. You could swallow a capsule of tapeworm eggs, but...why???

    Thankfully it was banned.

    Nasty.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    In for mind-controlling urge generating parasites (from space?)
    Eta-asstr mc
  • chezjuan
    chezjuan Posts: 747 Member
    Ooh ooh ooh! This reminds me of the episode of Futurama where fry eats the bad egg salad and gets infected with worms that make him super healthy, and smart. I can has those ones?!

    Parasites_Lost.jpg

    "I was born here. I raised a cloud of spores here. My ancestors came over on the sandwich!"
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    If you are concerned, OP, I'd suggest you go see your doctor. They should be able to test you for common parasites and help put your mind at ease.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member

    What is your point? That article isn't salient to the discussion as far as I can tell.
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Parasites can sure be fascinating! There is a fluke that infects the "brain" of ants and makes them climb to the top of a piece of grass and hang on all night, waiting to be eaten by a cow so the fluke can infect the cow.

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    But I don't think any of these have been correlated with any specific craving issues in humans.

    And another parasite (flatworm) that does similar things to snails so they'll be eaten by birds. Pretty cool (and gross, because you can see the juvenile parasites in the eyes of the snails).
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Dear sweet baby Jesus, how did I miss this one??
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Dear sweet baby Jesus, how did I miss this one??

    Was waiting for you.
    Here.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22740641

    Leptin influence by tapeworms.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Actually, despite all the fun gifs and jokes this is partially true.

    There are a few parasites and diseases that can influence your thinking.

    There is toxoplasmosis. Or the crazy cat lady parasite. Read here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121206203240.htm

    Rage is a mind altering disease prior to killing you. But don't worry about that one, if you catch it you are going to shortly die.

    Neurosyphilis can also affect the brain processes in early stages as a disinhibition process or result in periods of euphoria.
    Several books of research cover this.

    Recent research also suggests that gut bacteria influence cognitive processes.
    http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2011/03/25/gut-bacteria-may-influence-thoughts-and-behaviour/

    Happy reading. What's your concern?

    Chances are good OP just eats too much.

    We're talking parasite influence of cognition - not the OPs weight. And while, in terms of weight-loss, we can mostly ignore infections there are a few interesting conditions in gut flora that influence serotonin. And serotonin has been shown to play a role in binge eating disorder. So while the first reaction is to "pshah!" at these claims I find it more interesting to consider potentials. It is likely that some rare conditions of uncontrolled eating are parasite influenced - this makes both biological and evolutionary sense.

    For example, helminths (worms) are known to usually reduce appetite but there are cases of increased hunger reported too.

    Have you seen this?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677729/
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Dear sweet baby Jesus, how did I miss this one??

    Was waiting for you.
    Here.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22740641

    Leptin influence by tapeworms.

    Ooh. Tasty. Of course it makes perfect sense for the parasites to influence the host in order to increase their chances of survival.
  • gabbygirl78
    gabbygirl78 Posts: 936 Member
    You have been watching " monsters inside me" Too haven't you? Love that show!
  • in_the_stars
    in_the_stars Posts: 1,395 Member

    What is your point? That article isn't salient to the discussion as far as I can tell.

    That there are parasites, bacteria and viruses that cause weight gain.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Actually, despite all the fun gifs and jokes this is partially true.

    There are a few parasites and diseases that can influence your thinking.

    There is toxoplasmosis. Or the crazy cat lady parasite. Read here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121206203240.htm

    Rage is a mind altering disease prior to killing you. But don't worry about that one, if you catch it you are going to shortly die.

    Neurosyphilis can also affect the brain processes in early stages as a disinhibition process or result in periods of euphoria.
    Several books of research cover this.

    Recent research also suggests that gut bacteria influence cognitive processes.
    http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2011/03/25/gut-bacteria-may-influence-thoughts-and-behaviour/

    Happy reading. What's your concern?

    Chances are good OP just eats too much.

    We're talking parasite influence of cognition - not the OPs weight. And while, in terms of weight-loss, we can mostly ignore infections there are a few interesting conditions in gut flora that influence serotonin. And serotonin has been shown to play a role in binge eating disorder. So while the first reaction is to "pshah!" at these claims I find it more interesting to consider potentials. It is likely that some rare conditions of uncontrolled eating are parasite influenced - this makes both biological and evolutionary sense.

    For example, helminths (worms) are known to usually reduce appetite but there are cases of increased hunger reported too.

    Have you seen this?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677729/

    I had, someone posted it a few months back (you?) as an interesting twin study but I don't remember the reason why. Mechanism there is absorption or digestion or metabolic function and not "mind control" although I can see interrelationships ....
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member

    What is your point? That article isn't salient to the discussion as far as I can tell.

    That there are parasites, bacteria and viruses that cause weight gain.

    But that article doesn't talk about weight gain. "High molecular weight precursor" is the weight of a molecule.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
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  • christinemadden0223
    christinemadden0223 Posts: 175 Member
    I hear they die off if you OD on Vegetables
  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
    250px-Animorphs_29_The_Sickness.jpg

    I REMEMBER THESE!!! You just nostalgia'd me to death.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    I like my parasite. Keeps me company when I'm alone.
  • chelstakencharge
    chelstakencharge Posts: 1,021 Member
    BAHAHAHAHA!!!! ME TOO!!!
    What?!

    I've had 2 parasites in my body controlling cravings... but I gave birth to them after about 40 weeks...
  • Flab2Fab27
    Flab2Fab27 Posts: 461 Member
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  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Actually, despite all the fun gifs and jokes this is partially true.

    There are a few parasites and diseases that can influence your thinking.

    There is toxoplasmosis. Or the crazy cat lady parasite. Read here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121206203240.htm

    Rage is a mind altering disease prior to killing you. But don't worry about that one, if you catch it you are going to shortly die.

    Neurosyphilis can also affect the brain processes in early stages as a disinhibition process or result in periods of euphoria.
    Several books of research cover this.

    Recent research also suggests that gut bacteria influence cognitive processes.
    http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2011/03/25/gut-bacteria-may-influence-thoughts-and-behaviour/

    Happy reading. What's your concern?

    Chances are good OP just eats too much.

    We're talking parasite influence of cognition - not the OPs weight. And while, in terms of weight-loss, we can mostly ignore infections there are a few interesting conditions in gut flora that influence serotonin. And serotonin has been shown to play a role in binge eating disorder. So while the first reaction is to "pshah!" at these claims I find it more interesting to consider potentials. It is likely that some rare conditions of uncontrolled eating are parasite influenced - this makes both biological and evolutionary sense.

    For example, helminths (worms) are known to usually reduce appetite but there are cases of increased hunger reported too.

    Have you seen this?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677729/

    I had, someone posted it a few months back (you?) as an interesting twin study but I don't remember the reason why. Mechanism there is absorption or digestion or metabolic function and not "mind control" although I can see interrelationships ....

    Oh yeah, a definite thread hijack attempt. My bad.
  • What you mean like the wasp that sting and ant and then controls it type of parasites lol
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
    What?!

    I've had 2 parasites in my body controlling cravings... but I gave birth to them after about 40 weeks...

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • sallyspite
    sallyspite Posts: 4 Member
    Candida is fed by sugars so it may be our sugar cravings that precipitate that. It is sort of like a round robin effect.

    as far as parasites - a parasite is any organism which feeds off the host with out giving anything back. So bacteria's and such can fall into that category. that said, - it is know that pork can carry parasites - it must be cooked well. this is also one of the reasons folks are warned about cooking foods properly.

    I knew a nutritionist once who advocated eating figs as they countered the effects of the parasites in our GI track (the most common host site.

    But cute comments. I do agree the video was probably a marketing ploy to get you to buy a product. This problem is way down on the list of worries in the health spectrum. Just eat healthy, watch sanitation of your food, WASH hand for 20 seconds before cooking, eating, etc. and store and cook your foods properly and safely.

    In 30 years of nursing I have never seen a major issue w/ this.

    Blessings.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
  • hearthemelody
    hearthemelody Posts: 1,025 Member
    Am I the only one wondering if this is really a problem, given that it is on the "gaining weight" board?
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    In to read links later :smile:
  • lrmall01
    lrmall01 Posts: 377 Member
    Recent research also suggests that gut bacteria influence cognitive processes.
    http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2011/03/25/gut-bacteria-may-influence-thoughts-and-behaviour/

    My thought is that what the OP saw is a really overblown scare tactic related to something like this.

    Gut bacteria is something that is actually being researched and some do think that the gut bacteria can influence the brain but is certainly not proven. There is a project to sequence gut bacteria similar to how the human genome was sequenced. See:

    http://genome.wustl.edu/projects/detail/human-gut-microbiome/

    http://genome.wustl.edu/publications/detail/an-obesity-associated-gut-microbiome-with-increased-capacity-for-energy-harvest/

    Everyone has gut bacteria, so if we call bacteria "parasites" to scare people and sell them something that claims to fix it, it seems like an instant success to me!
  • in_the_stars
    in_the_stars Posts: 1,395 Member

    What is your point? That article isn't salient to the discussion as far as I can tell.

    That there are parasites, bacteria and viruses that cause weight gain.

    you're correct, that 1st one was all I could grab from my phone. :)

    But that article doesn't talk about weight gain. "High molecular weight precursor" is the weight of a molecule.