Has anyone lost body fat not eating clean?
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That is like saying ice cream is good for your health because it increases HDL, and ignoring that it increases LDL as well. You aren't using every health parameter, you are using the ones that fit your argument.
No, it's kind of the exact opposite of that. I'm arguing against the claim that "food x causes health outcome y."
The entire premise that an individual food, much less an individual BRAND of food, has some inherent health outcome is total insanity.
McDonald's doesn't inherently cause poor health, nor does it inherently cause good health. No individual food inherently causes any particular health outcome, period.0 -
That is like saying ice cream is good for your health because it increases HDL, and ignoring that it increases LDL as well. You aren't using every health parameter, you are using the ones that fit your argument.
No, it's kind of the exact opposite of that. I'm arguing against the claim that "food x causes health outcome y."
The entire premise that an individual food, much less an individual BRAND of food, has some inherent health outcome is total insanity.
McDonald's doesn't inherently cause poor health, nor does it inherently cause good health. No individual food inherently causes any particular health outcome, period.
Haha, okay, I think I get it now.0 -
I think most successful people on this site have lost weight without "eating clean". I have lost eating the same kinds of food, just less. I make sure I don't go over my calories and that I'm getting the correct ratios of macros.0
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That is like saying ice cream is good for your health because it increases HDL, and ignoring that it increases LDL as well. You aren't using every health parameter, you are using the ones that fit your argument.
No, it's kind of the exact opposite of that. I'm arguing against the claim that "food x causes health outcome y."
The entire premise that an individual food, much less an individual BRAND of food, has some inherent health outcome is total insanity.
McDonald's doesn't inherently cause poor health, nor does it inherently cause good health. No individual food inherently causes any particular health outcome, period.
Haha, okay, I think I get it now.
Excellent! :drinker:
I understand that my initial post appeared to basically say that McDonald's made my health improve etc, but I was assuming common sense would see beyond that. The whole point is that there's nothing wrong with fast food and it won't somehow automatically make your health worse.0 -
I've seen a few threads around here asking if anyone as lost weight not eating clean and most of the answers are yes but as anyone lost body fat not eating clean? I hear that to lose weight all you need as a calorie deficit but to lose body fat you'll need to eat clean0
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I've lost a little weight eating a variety of foods, including pizza, ice cream, and cookies.
Here's a recent blog I wrote to give you some better perspective:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/mfp-101-calories-macros-and-micros-617211
Yup.Drug of choice: chocolate every day for 500+ days.0 -
Does eating my yogurt whilst looking at a pic of jonnythan in a towel count as clean eating? Because I could actually get on board with that diet plan. *off to google images for guys in towels*
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I have never even attempted to eat clean. I've lost 45 lbs and dropped down to just below 20% body fat. I've been recomping for a year so I'm not eating at a deficit at all, just working out and hitting my macros.0
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I have. For a while.
Problem is that from lack of nutrition I was hungry CONSTANTLY.
You've been warned.
I think you're excluding the middle a bit.
I don't eat clean. I DO make sure I get enough protein and fat, and 5 servings or more of fruit/veg per day. I'm not hungry and I'm not lacking nutrition. It can be done it just takes balance.0 -
You need a calorie/energy deficit to lose weight. If you are in said deficit, body fat will be lost no matter what your food choices are. Lean body mass may also be burned up for fuel in a deficit (the amount varies depending on several factors). Resistance training helps mitigate the LBM loss.
Set your calorie limit and macros properly. Eat what you want to hit those numbers, and you will see results. Experiment. See what works best for you. I wouldn't start throwing foods out that you enjoy.0 -
I have. For a while.
Problem is that from lack of nutrition I was hungry CONSTANTLY.
You've been warned.
I think you're excluding the middle a bit.
I don't eat clean. I DO make sure I get enough protein and fat, and 5 servings or more of fruit/veg per day. I'm not hungry and I'm not lacking nutrition. It can be done it just takes balance.
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I usually don't shower before I eat0
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I have but you can't go crazy with it and expect to lose weight. If you are going to eat like that you need to monitor it closely so your calories don't get too high. If I know i'm going to have a "dirty" meal for dinner I will usually fast up until that point or I will get an intense cardio workout in.0
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