Guest Speaker today at my work - what I learned

Ctrum69

One of my massage instructors was a chiropractor. He was constantly trying to push stuff like this on us. So, I went to the dietician on base, with the info he had given us. She gave me resources, more info, and explained the partial truths to me when it came to diet and what he was pushing. I took those things to him. His response "well, that kind of medicine just lies to you, trust me, I know what I'm talking about."

Just because he's a Dr. of Chiropractic Medicine doesn't not make him a dietician, or make him credible on ANYTHING other than the joints and bones of the body. Period. I wouldn't trust my optometrist to advise me on physical therapy.

Whereas my Chiro is awesome, and immediately figured out what was wrong with me, and prescribed physical therapy, and told me his goal was to get me sorted in under 3 months and hopefully not see me again.

Plenty of chiros are quacks, but hey.. there's quack MD's as well. *cough Mercola cough*

Serah87

:laugh:

DamianaKitten

One of my massage instructors was a chiropractor. He was constantly trying to push stuff like this on us. So, I went to the dietician on base, with the info he had given us. She gave me resources, more info, and explained the partial truths to me when it came to diet and what he was pushing. I took those things to him. His response "well, that kind of medicine just lies to you, trust me, I know what I'm talking about."

Just because he's a Dr. of Chiropractic Medicine doesn't not make him a dietician, or make him credible on ANYTHING other than the joints and bones of the body. Period. I wouldn't trust my optometrist to advise me on physical therapy.

Whereas my Chiro is awesome, and immediately figured out what was wrong with me, and prescribed physical therapy, and told me his goal was to get me sorted in under 3 months and hopefully not see me again.

Plenty of chiros are quacks, but hey.. there's quack MD's as well. *cough Mercola cough*

Certainly. I tend to suggest clients seek out professionals in specific fields when I don't believe I'm their best option. I've met plenty of quack MD's thanks to the military. I had one tell me to get more fiber for a specific issue. I did so from plant based foods and psyllium husks. He told me "that's never going to work, you can only get fiber from fortified cereal." Um.... what?

But, I will still take more nutrition advice from a nutritionist, than I would from someone in another field. I like the variety of opinion, but as I've found with massage "specialties" there's apparently tons of cures for everything! It's just hidden by the evil medical empire. ... :huh:

katielshelby

I don't know what my favorite part is about this post...my initial reaction to the story or reading through all of the comments. Thanks for the pick-me-up, guys!

:flowerforyou:

SezxyStef

If my work ever brought someone in my work that said all that I might get my first write up in 15 years...couldn't sit there and listen to that.

CallMeCupcakeDammit

Thanks for sharing. Your comment about the apple made me curious. I found this article you (and others on here) may find interesting about how we have been breeding the nutrients out of food for thousands of years -- and a few ideas for recouping some of these phytonutrients. I realize it's the NY Times, written by an author who wrote a book about the topic, and not a science journal, but it is interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/opinion/sunday/breeding-the-nutrition-out-of-our-food.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

That was the thing I was curious about. Thanks for posting that. The other thing I want to know, is what you took for lunch, Jac. I can only imagine how boring your lunch would've been if they had provided it for you.

Met-Rx collossal peanut butter pretzel bar and an orange. I should have had 10C of spinach instead.

Oh, that sounds good! You blew your sugar with that orange.

ihateroses

CallMeCupcakeDammit

Every time I see your name, I hear Book of Love's "I Touch Roses" in my head.
/hijack

Hi Jac! :laugh:

sssself_samantha

I'm sorry, but this is so wrong. Carbs are GOOD! Believe it or not, our bodies NEED a little sugar. The protein thing is just..........so wrong. Protein stores as muscle. I don't mean to be rude, but wow.

tigersword

I'm sorry, but this is so wrong. Carbs are GOOD! Believe it or not, our bodies NEED a little sugar. The protein thing is just..........so wrong. Protein stores as muscle. I don't mean to be rude, but wow.

Uhh, what? No, no it doesn't. Protein does not "store as muscle." I'm not even sure what the hell that even means....

ihateroses

Every time I see your name, I hear Book of Love's "I Touch Roses" in my head.
/hijack

Hi Jac! :laugh:

I like you...imma call you "cupcake"

CallMeCupcakeDammit

Every time I see your name, I hear Book of Love's "I Touch Roses" in my head.
/hijack

Hi Jac! :laugh:

I like you...imma call you "cupcake"

:flowerforyou:

_Terrapin_

Hey R---> how you doin'? My snow man is smiling.....just for you! (Truthfully, getting tired of shoveling Frosty's relatives)

Papillon22

OP, I'm really sorry if you posted this for real, but I can't take it seriously. I mean...so many things...you don't need a medical degree to get what he said...please! use your common sense! Do you really believe that an actual Dr. would "diagnose and cure" someone by pushing on their arm or back? seriously? and the thyroid thing....wow.
The only knowledge that guy has is on how to manipulate and con people, and apparently he's amazing at it!

Jacwhite22

OP, I'm really sorry if you posted this for real, but I can't take it seriously. I mean...so many things...you don't need a medical degree to get what he said...please! use your common sense! Do you really believe that an actual Dr. would "diagnose and cure" someone by pushing on their arm or back? seriously? and the thyroid thing....wow.
The only knowledge that guy has is on how to manipulate and con people, and apparently he's amazing at it!

Maybe you need to spend some more time studying applied kinesiology.

Jerrypeoples

i suck

Jerrypeoples

grr

stevencloser

OP, I'm really sorry if you posted this for real, but I can't take it seriously. I mean...so many things...you don't need a medical degree to get what he said...please! use your common sense! Do you really believe that an actual Dr. would "diagnose and cure" someone by pushing on their arm or back? seriously? and the thyroid thing....wow.
The only knowledge that guy has is on how to manipulate and con people, and apparently he's amazing at it!

Maybe you need to spend some more time studying applied kinesiology.

Done.
" Current evidence does not support the use of applied kinesiology for diagnosis of any illness."
And that's that.

mikeykhan2003

Every time I see your name, I hear Book of Love's "I Touch Roses" in my head.
/hijack

Hi Jac! :laugh:

I like you...imma call you "cupcake"

You had me at "imma"

geebusuk

I SO SO SO want this to be real!

Made me laugh, at least!

rml_16

4 - Actually.....all grains are bad. It's a worthless food group and every grain should be considered a dessert

Disappointing dessert is disappointing.

mmcdonald700

7 pages of comments? Guyyyysss OP is a troll, and a successful one at that. This is the same person who posted last week asking for photos of women aged 20-30 in lingerie for "comparison" yet their profile pic is a sundae and their profile is private. "Hey give me pics of yourself in your undies for, you know, science. Also here is a long list of bull**** about something some "doctor/nutritionist" said". Seems legit.

rml_16

7 pages of comments? Guyyyysss OP is a troll, and a successful one at that. This is the same person who posted last week asking for photos of women aged 20-30 in lingerie for "comparison" yet their profile pic is a sundae and their profile is private. "Hey give me pics of yourself in your undies for, you know, science. Also here is a long list of bull**** about something some "doctor/nutritionist" said". Seems legit.

1. Most of us are familiar with the OP.

2. Did you actually read the replies in this thread?

DeniseBarone

You know, he's right about sugar. There was an interesting article on the hidden sugar in everything we eat on NPR last night.

KMasz

1 - The adrenal glands handle all stress and they can't distinguish between physical and mental stress. Being stressed releases cortisol which makes you store belly fat.

2 - Fat burning only occurs during your deep sleep at night.

3 - Sugar is bad.....awful....Wheat bread should be considered a dessert because it is a 71 on the glycemic index

4 - Actually.....all grains are bad. It's a worthless food group and every grain should be considered a dessert

5 - You have to eat 25 apples today to get the same nutritional value from one apple in the 1940s.

6 - Cereal companies take all nutrients out of the grain and then spray it with 6 synthetic vitamins and minerals....that's what enriched and fortified means.

7 - You really need to watch carbs and sugars. Calories don't really mean anything. All the good doctors (like Dr. Oz) say your body doesn't really know calories....It just knows hormones.

8 - You should only eat a max of 72g of carbs and 9g sugar per day.

At this point he did a really cool demonstration where people pushed their pointer finger against their thumb....and he would not be able to pry the two apart.....but then they would touch a processed food and he could pry their fingers apart.....This is because of the negative energy floating through these processed foods.......The only one it didn't work on was me.....He said that the Luna bar I was touching must be pretty good and it must be because of all the soy in it that I didn't lose as much strength. Amazing!!!

He also did another demonstration where someone held up their arm and he couldn't push it down.......he touched on his chest (heart) and it was still strong but when he pushed on his abdomen (liver) he could push the arm down so he must have a liver problem.........He brushed his hand down the patient's back a few times and then repeated the test and could not push the arm down.....His liver is on the way to recovery.


9 - Everyone needs 5 supplements....He went through it so quickly I didn't catch them all but they included multi-vitamin, multi-mineral and fish oil....along with two others.

10 - All supplements are not created equal....Vitamin Shoppe/GNC/ETC are cheap supplements and don't realy make a difference. He sells one in his office though called Standard Process and they are amazing. The others are made from oil/tar and are petroleum based products but the ones he sells are from real foods.

11 - Joint pain is pretty much always caused from poor nutrition.

12 - Detoxing is great but only if you are up for it. You need to eat right and exercise first before starting your full body cleanse. He did a detox once when his body wasn't ready and ended up with hyperthyroidism. He started eating right though and it fixed itself.

13 - You should only eat 3-4 oz. of protein at a time. Any more than 4 oz. and the remainder is immediately stored as fat instead.

14 - Juicing is great....watch the fruits though. Only 3.33 C (max) fruit per day and 10C vegetables per day (min)

15 - If you are trying to lose weight eat your fruit late at night before you go to bed so you can burn off all the fruit sugar while you sleep.....Otherwise you have to burn the fruit sugar off first when you exercise.

16 - You should do a parasite protocol every year because 9-10 people have parasites inside of them.

TL;DR

Hey, anyone else have a strange urge for some pizza and ice cream?

dunnodunno

I think I need an Advil after reading that.

CallMeCupcakeDammit

1 - The adrenal glands handle all stress and they can't distinguish between physical and mental stress. Being stressed releases cortisol which makes you store belly fat.

2 - Fat burning only occurs during your deep sleep at night.

3 - Sugar is bad.....awful....Wheat bread should be considered a dessert because it is a 71 on the glycemic index

4 - Actually.....all grains are bad. It's a worthless food group and every grain should be considered a dessert

5 - You have to eat 25 apples today to get the same nutritional value from one apple in the 1940s.

6 - Cereal companies take all nutrients out of the grain and then spray it with 6 synthetic vitamins and minerals....that's what enriched and fortified means.

7 - You really need to watch carbs and sugars. Calories don't really mean anything. All the good doctors (like Dr. Oz) say your body doesn't really know calories....It just knows hormones.

8 - You should only eat a max of 72g of carbs and 9g sugar per day.

At this point he did a really cool demonstration where people pushed their pointer finger against their thumb....and he would not be able to pry the two apart.....but then they would touch a processed food and he could pry their fingers apart.....This is because of the negative energy floating through these processed foods.......The only one it didn't work on was me.....He said that the Luna bar I was touching must be pretty good and it must be because of all the soy in it that I didn't lose as much strength. Amazing!!!

He also did another demonstration where someone held up their arm and he couldn't push it down.......he touched on his chest (heart) and it was still strong but when he pushed on his abdomen (liver) he could push the arm down so he must have a liver problem.........He brushed his hand down the patient's back a few times and then repeated the test and could not push the arm down.....His liver is on the way to recovery.


9 - Everyone needs 5 supplements....He went through it so quickly I didn't catch them all but they included multi-vitamin, multi-mineral and fish oil....along with two others.

10 - All supplements are not created equal....Vitamin Shoppe/GNC/ETC are cheap supplements and don't realy make a difference. He sells one in his office though called Standard Process and they are amazing. The others are made from oil/tar and are petroleum based products but the ones he sells are from real foods.

11 - Joint pain is pretty much always caused from poor nutrition.

12 - Detoxing is great but only if you are up for it. You need to eat right and exercise first before starting your full body cleanse. He did a detox once when his body wasn't ready and ended up with hyperthyroidism. He started eating right though and it fixed itself.

13 - You should only eat 3-4 oz. of protein at a time. Any more than 4 oz. and the remainder is immediately stored as fat instead.

14 - Juicing is great....watch the fruits though. Only 3.33 C (max) fruit per day and 10C vegetables per day (min)

15 - If you are trying to lose weight eat your fruit late at night before you go to bed so you can burn off all the fruit sugar while you sleep.....Otherwise you have to burn the fruit sugar off first when you exercise.

16 - You should do a parasite protocol every year because 9-10 people have parasites inside of them.

TL;DR

Hey, anyone else have a strange urge for some pizza and ice cream?

That's not strange, that's normal for me. :bigsmile:

CallMeCupcakeDammit

Hey R---> how you doin'? My snow man is smiling.....just for you! (Truthfully, getting tired of shoveling Frosty's relatives)

arrseegee

I hope you asked lots of questions to find out how to fix your liver.
Reading that made me laugh, thanks!

jofjltncb6

In...

...and how did I miss this originally???