What happens to your body when you "carb binge"

Interesting read

http://healthylivinghowto.com/1/post/2014/02/what-happens-to-your-body-when-you-carb-binge.html

Makes me wonder.. when is it too much?

Discuss.
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  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    Interesting read

    http://healthylivinghowto.com/1/post/2014/02/what-happens-to-your-body-when-you-carb-binge.html

    Makes me wonder.. when is it too much?

    Discuss.

    Interesting... in that I have never, ever experienced anything that they write about in this "article". Seems to me like they're just here to promote something that costs you money.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Within a matter of 10 quick forkfuls, you’ve gone from small doses of quality carbs wisely spread throughout the day to possibly 100 or more grams of pure sugar in one sitting
    Wow, stretching it a bit much. This "article" is a lot of drama wrapped around things your body normally does when you eat carbs (or sugar).

    They sure are trying to lay the guilt on people who decide to indulge in yummy things from time to time. Also, very sneaky advertising....
    The Primal Blueprint offers up a plan to help guide our everyday choices

    Move along people, this is spam
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    Well I have, and worse then what they describe. But only if I eat the stuff they describe. Never get it from fruits.

    Anyway.. maybe the author is trying to sell primal, I didn't really notice that when I read it, but that doesn't make what is written wrong.

    Wonder where the line of "too much sugar" is.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Interesting read

    http://healthylivinghowto.com/1/post/2014/02/what-happens-to-your-body-when-you-carb-binge.html

    Makes me wonder.. when is it too much?

    Discuss.

    Interesting... in that I have never, ever experienced anything that they write about in this "article". Seems to me like they're just here to promote something that costs you money.

    Yep, The Primal Blueprint. Available on Amazon for $14.56.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Wonder where the line of "too much sugar" is.

    Probably different for everyone. I ate a half a family size bag of Captain Crunch when preparing for my bodybuilding competition. Felt absolutely nothing out of the ordinary despite eating super clean for 14 weeks prior. Felt just like I had eaten a cup of plain brown rice with 6 oz of chicken and 100g of broccoli.
  • PhatAv8r
    PhatAv8r Posts: 150 Member
    I think there are a lot of factors, straight sugary treats like cake and cookies are worse than eating a snickers bar (which has a decent balance of protein, fat and carbs in comparison.

    but being insulin resistant, I can tell you that even a little binge of and extra piece of toast with jam, can make a weeks effort futile in the gym and on the road.

    my nutritionist insists that I am better off with butter on my toast if I want jam because the fat helps 'buffer' the carbs a little.
  • CrystalDreams
    CrystalDreams Posts: 418 Member
    I feel that "when" is a little general to be discussed. I found the article enlightening. I know that once I start I cant stop and it becomes a slipper slope of binging. While this is my experience, I have a friend who can eat half a piece of cake and that's it., shes done. Completely fine. I eat the same amount and my cravings go insane, I feel sick and crappy. I am very sensitive to sugar. Even several pieces of fruit at once can throw my in a tailspin.

    I truly apprentice you posting this article. And for me, too much is just looking at cake. Take care:drinker:
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    Interesting read

    http://healthylivinghowto.com/1/post/2014/02/what-happens-to-your-body-when-you-carb-binge.html

    Makes me wonder.. when is it too much?

    Discuss.

    Interesting... in that I have never, ever experienced anything that they write about in this "article". Seems to me like they're just here to promote something that costs you money.
    The promotion is to further the insertion that carbs are bad via Marks Daily Apple. While the basic physiological premise is mostly accurate, it would take an extreme amount and with people that have glucose issue or dysfunction. Carb loading like this also has another name for atheletes and it's called supercompensation.......a good thing. context and dosage is once again an important issue.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    so insulin gushing....toxic sludge.....and a quote from the link of Marks Daily Apple

    "FYI, In and Out has a “protein style” burger that’s wrapped in lettuce. They do a great job of it and it’s not unweildy at all. It’s wonderful! (Not totally primal, I know Mark does not approve of grain fed, commercially ground beef –but it’s a great junk food fix)"

    Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-happens-to-your-body-when-you-carb-binge/#ixzz2tDcCrj35

    FYI when I here In and Out I think of the movie Fargo, lettuce may or may not be included.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Well I have, and worse then what they describe. But only if I eat the stuff they describe. Never get it from fruits.

    Anyway.. maybe the author is trying to sell primal, I didn't really notice that when I read it, but that doesn't make what is written wrong.

    Wonder where the line of "too much sugar" is.

    LOLZ so fruit sugar has zero impact on you but cake sugar shuts your whole body down? please...
  • LindseySprake
    LindseySprake Posts: 333 Member
    BUMP!
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?

    I read that too; how many ways to say "PANIC DANGER" so a guy sneezes in the elevator and I get a cold due to the sugar I had yesterday; sure makes sense. WTF.....
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.
  • PtheronJr
    PtheronJr Posts: 108 Member
    You get the itis.
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    context and dosage is once again an important issue.

    I think that is it.. It's not that a few chocolate covered goji berrries will really hurt, but the whole bag?? And it's so hard to stop at a few. A serving of cake (how big is 1 serving anyway?? I mean really, not how much ever eats, how big is 1 serving) might be fine, but the entire cake? Besides going over in calories and having *kitten* t y macros to show for it. I'd be sick, with a headache, unable to concentrate, likely shaking and unable to sleep, i also crave more as soon as I finish my helping. Sugar cereal makes me feel like crap in the morning, an apple makes me feel great.. It's probably individual since there are so many others saying how it does not affect them.
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
    Meh... I take everything Mark Sisson says with a hefty dose of skepticism. He's trying to sell something.

    What he calls a 'carb binge' is just a piece of cake and ice cream??? In what reality is that considered a "binge"? I call a piece of cake & ice cream a normal indulgence that most people can easily fit into a healthy, moderate lifestyle. And, I don't know what he's talking about with all the sweating and heart racing followed by sluggishness and insomnia. When I eat carbs, I feel happy, relaxed, and energized. In fact, the sleep specialist I saw a few years ago told me to switch my night time snacks from protein-focused to carb-focused. Eating carbs releases serotonin, which is one of the hormones that helps you sleep.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    It's happy and wants to take a nap?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
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  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    But, wait a minute....let me go to the frig......okay found it...strange product I have here; it contains 22 g of sugar and is 110 calories...120% of RDV at 2,000 caloric diet of a Vitamin.....oh I see it "C" is the vitamin.......orange juice, seems the devil and the angel in one container. Maybe we have a trade off and maybe we do not; either way it does effect our immune system but hardly in the context the writer of the article describes. It sounds like they are working hard to convince you to buy something.....JMHO.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Meh... I take everything Mark Sisson says with a hefty dose of skepticism. He's trying to sell something.

    What he calls a 'carb binge' is just a piece of cake and ice cream??? In what reality is that considered a "binge"? I call a piece of cake & ice cream a normal indulgence that most people can easily fit into a healthy, moderate lifestyle. And, I don't know what he's talking about with all the sweating and heart racing followed by sluggishness and insomnia. When I eat carbs, I feel happy, relaxed, and energized. In fact, the sleep specialist I saw a few years ago told me to switch my night time snacks from protein-focused to carb-focused. Eating carbs releases serotonin, which is one of the hormones that helps you sleep.

    I know right...I was thinking the same thing..

    I would think of a carb binge as like a whole package of linguine, with a loaf of bread, and then some ice cream ...hell, that sounds pretty damn good right now!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    But, wait a minute....let me go to the frig......okay found it...strange product I have here; it contains 22 g of sugar and is 110 calories...120% of RDV at 2,000 caloric diet of a Vitamin.....oh I see it "C" is the vitamin.......orange juice, seems the devil and the angel in one container. Maybe we have a trade off and maybe we do not; either way it does effect our immune system but hardly in the context the writer of the article describes. It sounds like they are working hard to convince you to buy something.....JMHO.
    Yup marks daily apple is basically fear mongereing. This post was just to point out there is a working relationship with glucose, vitamin C, the immune system and white blood cells, nothing more. We are talking in excess here but considering most of the population has a problem with excess in most things food related and with disease, it's worth mentioning as opposed to just ignoring this data.......makes for more interesting conversation as well.:smile:
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Meh... I take everything Mark Sisson says with a hefty dose of skepticism. He's trying to sell something.

    What he calls a 'carb binge' is just a piece of cake and ice cream??? In what reality is that considered a "binge"? I call a piece of cake & ice cream a normal indulgence that most people can easily fit into a healthy, moderate lifestyle. And, I don't know what he's talking about with all the sweating and heart racing followed by sluggishness and insomnia. When I eat carbs, I feel happy, relaxed, and energized. In fact, the sleep specialist I saw a few years ago told me to switch my night time snacks from protein-focused to carb-focused. Eating carbs releases serotonin, which is one of the hormones that helps you sleep.

    I know right...I was thinking the same thing..

    I would think of a carb binge as like a whole package of linguine, with a loaf of bread, and then some ice cream ...hell, that sounds pretty damn good right now!

    I think I'm going to have that the night before my century ride.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    But, wait a minute....let me go to the frig......okay found it...strange product I have here; it contains 22 g of sugar and is 110 calories...120% of RDV at 2,000 caloric diet of a Vitamin.....oh I see it "C" is the vitamin.......orange juice, seems the devil and the angel in one container. Maybe we have a trade off and maybe we do not; either way it does effect our immune system but hardly in the context the writer of the article describes. It sounds like they are working hard to convince you to buy something.....JMHO.
    Yup marks daily apple is basically fear mongereing. This post was just to point out there is a working relationship with glucose, vitamin C, the immune system and white blood cells, nothing more. We are talking in excess here but considering most of the population has a problem with excess in most things food related and with disease, it's worth mentioning as opposed to just ignoring this data.......makes for more interesting conversation as well.:smile:

    true :flowerforyou:
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    ^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    While I completely agree the article was written in an overly dramatic style, I also know what I've experienced. After getting used to a low sugar & no processed carbs diet, going on a small "binge" makes me feel like total crap.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    ^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.

    that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?

    and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    ^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.

    that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?

    and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....

    Yes--it is a generalization but one that reflects reality for a great many people. I did NOT say that sugar gets automatically stored as fat. Read it again.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    ^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.

    that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?

    and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
    Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    more sugar fear mongering...

    I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
    Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.

    ^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.

    that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?

    and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
    Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:

    That interjection added exactly zero to the conversation.