What happens to your body when you "carb binge"
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Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
Yes--it is a generalization but one that reflects reality for a great many people. I did NOT say that sugar gets automatically stored as fat. Read it again.
you said sugar gets stuffed into fat cells...and then proceeded to fear monger about "diabetic coma" and the like...
I will say it again ..sugar is not going to make you get ill..you get ill from well, diseases...
Do you have some kind of study or statistic on post holiday sugar consumption leading to people being sick?0 -
Glad you found something that works for you but consuming sugar within the context of a balanced diet never hurt anyone. If after your gorging years on sugar has led you down this path and it works, your ahead of the SAD curve. Most decently aligned diets are as well without removing most refined sugars in the context of meeting macro/micro nutrient needs. Again MDA believes carbs are evil and will lead to insidious weight gain regardless of the context.......he's selling his philosophy while at the same time promoting protein powder with added sugar in it......yeah right.
Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:
Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
That interjection added exactly zero to the conversation.0 -
I have to say, my day would probably just be incomplete without at least one of these you're going to die, sugar ohnoes fear mongering threads...whatever happened the concept of a balanced diet...which by the way, can include sugar and cakes and doughnuts, etc? It's not rocket science...
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Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
Yes--it is a generalization but one that reflects reality for a great many people. I did NOT say that sugar gets automatically stored as fat. Read it again.
you said sugar gets stuffed into fat cells...and then proceeded to fear monger about "diabetic coma" and the like...
I will say it again ..sugar is not going to make you get ill..you get ill from well, diseases...
Do you have some kind of study or statistic on post holiday sugar consumption leading to people being sick?
Um--I SAID high blood glucose is converted into triglycerides and then stuffed into fat cells. I can add that ANYTHING that causes high blood glucose would have that effect--but it is easier and faster to produce high blood glucose with sugary foods than any other type of food because fiber slows down the absorption of simple sugars from food. Grapefruit, for example, is a "negative calorie food" because it takes more energy out of your body (to digest it and assimilate its nutrients) than is supplied by the fruit itself.
It is chronic high blood glucose that causes a variety of illnesses. Now, what is it that you don't understand about that statement?0 -
Glad you found something that works for you but consuming sugar within the context of a balanced diet never hurt anyone. If after your gorging years on sugar has led you down this path and it works, your ahead of the SAD curve. Most decently aligned diets are as well without removing most refined sugars in the context of meeting macro/micro nutrient needs. Again MDA believes carbs are evil and will lead to insidious weight gain regardless of the context.......he's selling his philosophy while at the same time promoting protein powder with added sugar in it......yeah right.
Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:
Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
That interjection added exactly zero to the conversation.
I need to correct a misapprehension that you have. My problem was not one of "gorging on sugar" as much as it was that ANY sugar turned out to be harmful to me because of arthritis-caused lack of activity and the actual bio-chemistry of utilizing simple sugars. I really CANNOT afford ANY nutrient-poor foods and refined SUGAR just happens to be the the MOST nutrient-poor "food" of all (not actually a food as much as it is a chemical fraction of a food). My brother is and my mother was a Type II diabetic (both with severe arthritis) and I am not interested in becoming a victim of SAD as they were and are.0 -
Oh FFS!!!
I didn't have to read beyond the first couple of paragraphs to roll my eyes at this crap.
Demonizing a piece of freakin' BIRTHDAY CAKE??
Know what happens when *I* eat birthday cake?
I like it.
And people around me know I'm sociable.
And they like me.
And I like them.
And I get laid.
And I like that, too.
Moral of the story?
Sugar phobia will make you unf***able.0 -
You might if the person who blew out the candles had a cold.
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?0 -
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I have to say, my day would probably just be incomplete without at least one of these you're going to die, sugar ohnoes fear mongering threads...whatever happened the concept of a balanced diet...which by the way, can include sugar and cakes and doughnuts, etc? It's not rocket science...
I guess it is in vogue to demonize sugar and then blame it for overconsumption of calories, rather then to look in the mirror and just admits that one enjoys eating too much of any food, regardless of what is in it, which is what leads to obesity....0 -
You might if the person who blew out the candles had a cold.
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
that is why you always stand behind the person blowing on the candles lol0 -
Oh FFS!!!
I didn't have to read beyond the first couple of paragraphs to roll my eyes at this crap.
Demonizing a piece of freakin' BIRTHDAY CAKE??
Know what happens when *I* eat birthday cake?
I like it.
And people around me know I'm sociable.
And they like me.
And I like them.
And I get laid.
And I like that, too.
Moral of the story?
Sugar phobia will make you unf***able.
How very coarse of you to bring that into the discussion.0 -
so you do no eat anything that breaks down in your body as sugar?
Glad you found something that works for you but consuming sugar within the context of a balanced diet never hurt anyone. If after your gorging years on sugar has led you down this path and it works, your ahead of the SAD curve. Most decently aligned diets are as well without removing most refined sugars in the context of meeting macro/micro nutrient needs. Again MDA believes carbs are evil and will lead to insidious weight gain regardless of the context.......he's selling his philosophy while at the same time promoting protein powder with added sugar in it......yeah right.
Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:
Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
That interjection added exactly zero to the conversation.
I need to correct a misapprehension that you have. My problem was not one of "gorging on sugar" as much as it was that ANY sugar turned out to be harmful to me because of arthritis-caused lack of activity and the actual bio-chemistry of utilizing simple sugars. I really CANNOT afford ANY nutrient-poor foods and refined SUGAR just happens to be the the MOST nutrient-poor "food" of all (not actually a food as much as it is a chemical fraction of a food). My brother is and my mother was a Type II diabetic (both with severe arthritis) and I am not interested in becoming a victim of SAD as they were and are.0 -
Oh FFS!!!
I didn't have to read beyond the first couple of paragraphs to roll my eyes at this crap.
Demonizing a piece of freakin' BIRTHDAY CAKE??
Know what happens when *I* eat birthday cake?
I like it.
And people around me know I'm sociable.
And they like me.
And I like them.
And I get laid.
And I like that, too.
Moral of the story?
Sugar phobia will make you unf***able.
Best logic ever in a sugar thread. And since I had 413g of sugar (mostly from cake), I'm thinking things are looking good for my night
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You might if the person who blew out the candles had a cold.
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
We exist in a sea of bacteria and viruses. What allows us to get sick is an immune system that is not up to the task of defending us or getting overwhelmed by a particular bacteria or virus that the immune system has few resources to fight. Cold viruses are EVERYWHERE--winter and summer.0 -
Oh no! My primal blueprint is messed up!!0
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Oh FFS!!!
I didn't have to read beyond the first couple of paragraphs to roll my eyes at this crap.
Demonizing a piece of freakin' BIRTHDAY CAKE??
Know what happens when *I* eat birthday cake?
I like it.
And people around me know I'm sociable.
And they like me.
And I like them.
And I get laid.
And I like that, too.
Moral of the story?
Sugar phobia will make you unf***able.
Best logic ever in a sugar thread. And since I had 413g of sugar (mostly from cake), I'm thinking things are looking good for my night
if you get sick, blame the sugar..0 -
Yes, but we aren't having a conversation we are having an MFP thread diatribe of nothingness; so many enter so few stay because, well, because.....this is probably the 20th thread since the new year just on sugar.....so have fun, sit back, enjoy, just do not eat cake for it is EVIL....muah muah hahahahahaha!
Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:
Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
That interjection added exactly zero to the conversation.0 -
so you do no eat anything that breaks down in your body as sugar?
Glad you found something that works for you but consuming sugar within the context of a balanced diet never hurt anyone. If after your gorging years on sugar has led you down this path and it works, your ahead of the SAD curve. Most decently aligned diets are as well without removing most refined sugars in the context of meeting macro/micro nutrient needs. Again MDA believes carbs are evil and will lead to insidious weight gain regardless of the context.......he's selling his philosophy while at the same time promoting protein powder with added sugar in it......yeah right.
Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:
Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
That interjection added exactly zero to the conversation.
I need to correct a misapprehension that you have. My problem was not one of "gorging on sugar" as much as it was that ANY sugar turned out to be harmful to me because of arthritis-caused lack of activity and the actual bio-chemistry of utilizing simple sugars. I really CANNOT afford ANY nutrient-poor foods and refined SUGAR just happens to be the the MOST nutrient-poor "food" of all (not actually a food as much as it is a chemical fraction of a food). My brother is and my mother was a Type II diabetic (both with severe arthritis) and I am not interested in becoming a victim of SAD as they were and are.
I did NOT say that. Obviously, ANY food will contribute to blood sugar (or I would have long since expired).0 -
I don't want to live a life where a slice of lemon sponge cake is considered a binge.
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Probably different for everyone. I ate a half a family size bag of Captain Crunch when preparing for my bodybuilding competition. Felt absolutely nothing out of the ordinary despite eating super clean for 14 weeks prior. Felt just like I had eaten a cup of plain brown rice with 6 oz of chicken and 100g of broccoli.
Thanks for sharing. I am trying Paleo right now, as a few people have suggested it to see if it helps my chronic migraine. I will be adding grains back in next week and wondered if going back to brains after a couple weeks of none would be seen as a sugar binge by my body and have undesirable consequences,
I have never really gotten sugar high or that .carb coma feeling or anything, so I think I,ll be fine.0 -
I don't want to live a life where a slice of lemon sponge cake is considered a binge.
It is still a free country, last time I checked.0 -
Meh... I take everything Mark Sisson says with a hefty dose of skepticism. He's trying to sell something.
What he calls a 'carb binge' is just a piece of cake and ice cream??? In what reality is that considered a "binge"? I call a piece of cake & ice cream a normal indulgence that most people can easily fit into a healthy, moderate lifestyle. And, I don't know what he's talking about with all the sweating and heart racing followed by sluggishness and insomnia. When I eat carbs, I feel happy, relaxed, and energized. In fact, the sleep specialist I saw a few years ago told me to switch my night time snacks from protein-focused to carb-focused. Eating carbs releases serotonin, which is one of the hormones that helps you sleep.
I agree. I typically go with a reduced carb diet and every now and then I load up and have what I want. For example... I just had a PB&J on seeded rye bread... should I be worried? :laugh: Although I have to admit that it's the product or type of carb I guess that effects me. For example, a healthy and natural PB&J makes me feel full and happy and satisfied with no sugar crash, lack of energy or quick turnaround hunger at all. If I eat cookies, cakes, candy bar type of items then I almost always end up with a headache. Also, at least three nights a week I have a bowl of high fiber cereal with almond milk right before bed and I always get the best nights sleep and wake up feeling energized and very slim the next day. Just my two cents.0 -
Grapefruit, for example, is a "negative calorie food" because it takes more energy out of your body (to digest it and assimilate its nutrients) than is supplied by the fruit itself.
And now we know with 100% certainty that you have no idea what you are talking about.0 -
Grapefruit, for example, is a "negative calorie food" because it takes more energy out of your body (to digest it and assimilate its nutrients) than is supplied by the fruit itself.
And now we know with 100% certainty that you have no idea what you are talking about.
LOL I was thinking the same thing...0 -
so you do no eat anything that breaks down in your body as sugar?
Glad you found something that works for you but consuming sugar within the context of a balanced diet never hurt anyone. If after your gorging years on sugar has led you down this path and it works, your ahead of the SAD curve. Most decently aligned diets are as well without removing most refined sugars in the context of meeting macro/micro nutrient needs. Again MDA believes carbs are evil and will lead to insidious weight gain regardless of the context.......he's selling his philosophy while at the same time promoting protein powder with added sugar in it......yeah right.
Is there a reason for logic here? Oh wait, yes, because it makes sense:happy:
Actually sugar does effect our immune system. The metabolic pathway into cell structure for vitamin C is also used for glucose and too much glucose shunts vitamin C uptake compromising the immune systems effectiveness.more sugar fear mongering...
I offer this as a counter, which explains why insulin has gotten a bad rap...
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Also, sugar compromises your immune system? Come on man...so if I eat a piece of cake, I am more likely got get sick over the next 24 hours?
^^^THIS^^^ Ever wonder why everyone gets sick at the holidays after gorging on sweet treats? High blood glucose is an enemy to us in a great many ways--and the FASTEST way to raise it to an unacceptably high level is to eat a lot of sugar and sit or lay around. When you do that, you force your body to react to the danger (of possible diabetic coma) by sending a surge of insulin to "grab" that high blood glucose, convert it into triglycerides and stuff it into your fat cells. I suppose getting fat is preferable to going into a coma, but, in the long run, obesity itself will shorten your life and reduce the quality of your life for many years in advance of death. It is possible to get along quite well without added sugar. I do not eat added sugar as a general rule and have not for over three years. I also do not eat wheat or much grain (only the occasional piece of organic sourdough rye bread or some sesame rice chips). My health has improved markedly. I eat more vegetables than I have ever eaten before in my life and if I am wanting something sweet, I eat a piece of fruit. On the rare occasion when I do eat some kind of sweet (birthday cake or some such) I find it unacceptably sweet and leave most of it. Most older people are simply not active enough to justify the level of carbohydrate in the standard diet so I adjust my carbohydrate intake up and down based on activity level. I generally aim for 70-120 grams of carbohydrate per day with the higher amount for very active days. It really isn't rocket science. After many years of yo-yo dieting, I have found what works for me. Will it work for everyone? Probably not (except the restriction on added sugar--that is advisable for most people who care about their long-term health). Athletes of course, and men in general (because of their higher proportion of lean body mass) would need a lot more carbohydrates to "spare" their muscles. Again, not rocket science.
that is a pretty broad generalization. People get sick after the holidays because it happens to be cold and flu season...additionally, I typically do not get sick after the holiday season, so what does that mean?
and sugar does not automatically get stored as fat; excess calories get stored as fat....
That interjection added exactly zero to the conversation.
I need to correct a misapprehension that you have. My problem was not one of "gorging on sugar" as much as it was that ANY sugar turned out to be harmful to me because of arthritis-caused lack of activity and the actual bio-chemistry of utilizing simple sugars. I really CANNOT afford ANY nutrient-poor foods and refined SUGAR just happens to be the the MOST nutrient-poor "food" of all (not actually a food as much as it is a chemical fraction of a food). My brother is and my mother was a Type II diabetic (both with severe arthritis) and I am not interested in becoming a victim of SAD as they were and are.
I did NOT say that. Obviously, ANY food will contribute to blood sugar (or I would have long since expired).
you said sugar is a nutrient poor food and you CANNOT (your emphasis) have nutrient poor food...which would assume you do not consume sugar. So you are saying that you do eat sugar even though you cannot have it?0 -
Oh FFS!!!
I didn't have to read beyond the first couple of paragraphs to roll my eyes at this crap.
Demonizing a piece of freakin' BIRTHDAY CAKE??
Know what happens when *I* eat birthday cake?
I like it.
And people around me know I'm sociable.
And they like me.
And I like them.
And I get laid.
And I like that, too.
Moral of the story?
Sugar phobia will make you unf***able.
How very helpful of you to bring that into the discussion.
FIFY
Fear mongering is not productive.
Unless someone has a diagnosed health issue, a piece of cake is not a bad thing.
Some folks might want to consider looking at the big picture.0 -
Moral of the story?
Sugar phobia will make you unf***able.
In the entire history of MFP, truer words may never have been spoken!
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...The Primal Blueprin...
Oh FFS...Mark Sisson is an outright fraud preying on people's emotions around eating. Why are people still referencing his nonsense?0 -
...The Primal Blueprin...
Oh FFS...Mark Sisson is an outright fraud preying on people's emotions around eating. Why are people still referencing his nonsense?
because it is easy to demonize sugar as the be all for everyone's weight gaining problems and then profit off it...0 -
...The Primal Blueprin...
Oh FFS...Mark Sisson is an outright fraud preying on people's emotions around eating. Why are people still referencing his nonsense?
because it is easy to demonize sugar as the be all for everyone's weight gaining problems and then profit off it...
It's like we've learned absolute nothing from the three decades of blaming all our problems on fat and cholesterol, and are now repeating the same idiocy with sugar.
Great.0
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