What happens to your body when you "carb binge"
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I dont eat carbs a lot. It makes me bloated.
Where my energy comes from when I workout? Fat burn
so you eat zero carbs or some carbs?0 -
I dont eat carbs a lot. It makes me bloated.
Where my energy comes from when I workout? Fat burn
so you eat zero carbs or some carbs?
Lean meats..chicken,beef & fish, eggs is a must for me everyday at least 2,legumes and greenies
I just join MFP, but I had been watching my food intake for certain time. Its just I start to do counting of my calorie intake :happy:0 -
Where my energy comes from when I workout? Fat burn
The human body can't metabolize fat fast enough to support high intensity exercise. Either your workouts are not using nearly as much energy as you think, or you're eating more carbs than you're letting on.0 -
Where my energy comes from when I workout? Fat burn
The human body can't metabolize fat fast enough to support high intensity exercise. Either your workouts are not using nearly as much energy as you think, or you're eating more carbs than you're letting on.
Umm let me see ,my workout (4-5times a week), consists of 45-80mins, cardio: elliptical and stat rowing, strength training: 100-120 Abs crunches, 70 squats, 100xsit-ups with weight on hands.
Occasionally lap-swimming,non-stop, butterfly/breast-stroke of 60-80mins..if thats not intensive..I have no ideas what it call
I do high protein intake,less carbs intake0 -
People die drinking too much water.......moral of story, everything has deleterious effects in excess. Just don't jump up and down saying people are going to die because they drink water.......I'm sure that makes no sense to you based on your current crusade.
Taking a quick look at the reference studies they alluded to the fact that fructose caused insulin resistance. The dosage was 250g's of fructose which is equivalent to 16 cups of soda but you have to realize in order to actually deliver 250 g's of fructose the subject would also be consuming about the same amount of glucose, so say another 250 g's. 500 g's of sugar or 2000 calories from sugar for 7 days.......yeah, that sounds legit. Basically they consumed sugar for a week. lol. I grazed over the other studies and they were all similar. Enough said.
Do you know if there's a link anywhere.......this has to be cleared up just in case some innocent bystanders start having nightmares.
Do you know what metabolic syndrome is.....it doesn't happen in 2 weeks, wow. What dose od fructose were the participants given....better yet link the study.
Labeling someone "anti-science" is a poor tactic.
LOL I did not know that yahoo answers is the peer reviewed source that all scientists turn to in their times of need...
I have explained my choice of that short answer. To keep on harping on it is to lose sight of the other points that I have made in this thread and the very serious research that is being done. Dr. Richard Johnson and his team of medical researchers were able to produce metabolic syndrome IN TWO WEEKS in 60% of normal-weight, male subjects, by giving them a large, high fructose drink every day. The researchers were startled and chagrined with their results. They were actually looking for the possibility that there was some mechanism by which normal-weight people were able to deal more effectively with large amounts of fructose. While the dose was admittedly a large one, it was certainly not beyond what many people drink in soda pop every day.
the "study" was actually some kind of forum on "food addiction" and "sugar addiction" so I am sure that all the "MD's" present were fair and unbiased towards sugar....
found it:
http://www.foodaddictionsummit.org/presenters-johnson.htm
EDIT: math
That 16 cups of soda is well within the consumption of many obese folk. That is only 8 large tumblers of soda (or 4 "Big Gulps"). My Type II diabetic brother (and he is decidedly NOT unusual in that respect) would, in the past, easily drink that every day. He actually was not very obese at any point--just a pot belly. But he is quite tall (6'2") and used to be athletic. When he was diagnosed with Type II--the docs told him to eat low-fat, which he did faithfully (and, at my sister's suggestion, he switched to diet soda) and yet, his diabetes became much worse. His diet mainly consisted then and now, of carbohydrates and he was never, at any point restricted from sugar by his doctors. He is now insulin-dependent. I, on the other hand, immediately cut out added sugar when I was told by my doctor that my blood sugar level was too high. My FBS, HgA1C, and triglycerides are now perfect. Coincidence--probably not. Look, despite what you sugar advocates seem to think, I am not against a moderate amount of sugar in the diet of healthy, active people (and I have said so, elsewhere in the thread), but for those who are struggling with metabolic derangement of one sort or another (and that is a very large proportion of those over 40) excessive sugar intake is deadly.
Did you actually read the post that you responded to? You are arguing with a straw man. I am NOT on an anti-sugar "crusade" any more than is the American Heart Association (which has spoken to the problem of too much sugar in the standard diet). Please read carefully before you respond.0 -
Where my energy comes from when I workout? Fat burn
The human body can't metabolize fat fast enough to support high intensity exercise. Either your workouts are not using nearly as much energy as you think, or you're eating more carbs than you're letting on.
Umm let me see ,my workout (4-5times a week), consists of 45-80mins, cardio: elliptical and stat rowing, strength training: 100-120 Abs crunches, 70 squats, 100xsit-ups with weight on hands.
Occasionally lap-swimming,non-stop, butterfly/breast-stroke of 60-80mins..if thats not intensive..I have no ideas what it call
I do high protein intake,less carbs intake
Generally speaking (very generally), women are more capable than men of using fat for energy expenditure.0 -
Where my energy comes from when I workout? Fat burn
The human body can't metabolize fat fast enough to support high intensity exercise. Either your workouts are not using nearly as much energy as you think, or you're eating more carbs than you're letting on.
Umm let me see ,my workout (4-5times a week), consists of 45-80mins, cardio: elliptical and stat rowing, strength training: 100-120 Abs crunches, 70 squats, 100xsit-ups with weight on hands.
Occasionally lap-swimming,non-stop, butterfly/breast-stroke of 60-80mins..if thats not intensive..I have no ideas what it call
I do high protein intake,less carbs intake
Generally speaking (very generally), women are more capable than men of using fat for energy expenditure.
Yes--the female hormone, progesterone, helps to stimulate the conversion of fat to energy needs. A number of obese women have discovered that they have no problem controlling their weight when pregnant. It is after the very high levels of progesterone end (with the end of their pregnancy) that they may begin to, once again, struggle with their weight--especially since lactation requires higher than normal levels of estrogen (the "body fat loving" female hormone) even though their calorie-expenditure is boosted from feeding a growing infant.0 -
People die drinking too much water.......moral of story, everything has deleterious effects in excess. Just don't jump up and down saying people are going to die because they drink water.......I'm sure that makes no sense to you based on your current crusade.
Taking a quick look at the reference studies they alluded to the fact that fructose caused insulin resistance. The dosage was 250g's of fructose which is equivalent to 16 cups of soda but you have to realize in order to actually deliver 250 g's of fructose the subject would also be consuming about the same amount of glucose, so say another 250 g's. 500 g's of sugar or 2000 calories from sugar for 7 days.......yeah, that sounds legit. Basically they consumed sugar for a week. lol. I grazed over the other studies and they were all similar. Enough said.
Do you know if there's a link anywhere.......this has to be cleared up just in case some innocent bystanders start having nightmares.
Do you know what metabolic syndrome is.....it doesn't happen in 2 weeks, wow. What dose od fructose were the participants given....better yet link the study.
Labeling someone "anti-science" is a poor tactic.
LOL I did not know that yahoo answers is the peer reviewed source that all scientists turn to in their times of need...
I have explained my choice of that short answer. To keep on harping on it is to lose sight of the other points that I have made in this thread and the very serious research that is being done. Dr. Richard Johnson and his team of medical researchers were able to produce metabolic syndrome IN TWO WEEKS in 60% of normal-weight, male subjects, by giving them a large, high fructose drink every day. The researchers were startled and chagrined with their results. They were actually looking for the possibility that there was some mechanism by which normal-weight people were able to deal more effectively with large amounts of fructose. While the dose was admittedly a large one, it was certainly not beyond what many people drink in soda pop every day.
the "study" was actually some kind of forum on "food addiction" and "sugar addiction" so I am sure that all the "MD's" present were fair and unbiased towards sugar....
found it:
http://www.foodaddictionsummit.org/presenters-johnson.htm
EDIT: math
That 16 cups of soda is well within the consumption of many obese folk. That is only 8 large tumblers of soda (or 4 "Big Gulps"). My Type II diabetic brother (and he is decidedly NOT unusual in that respect) would, in the past, easily drink that every day. He actually was not very obese at any point--just a pot belly. But he is quite tall (6'2") and used to be athletic. When he was diagnosed with Type II--the docs told him to eat low-fat, which he did faithfully (and, at my sister's suggestion, he switched to diet soda) and yet, his diabetes became much worse. His diet mainly consisted then and now, of carbohydrates and he was never, at any point restricted from sugar by his doctors. He is now insulin-dependent. I, on the other hand, immediately cut out added sugar when I was told by my doctor that my blood sugar level was too high. My FBS, HgA1C, and triglycerides are now perfect. Coincidence--probably not. Look, despite what you sugar advocates seem to think, I am not against a moderate amount of sugar in the diet of healthy, active people (and I have said so, elsewhere in the thread), but for those who are struggling with metabolic derangement of one sort or another (and that is a very large proportion of those over 40) excessive sugar intake is deadly.
Did you actually read the post that you responded to? You are arguing with a straw man. I am NOT on an anti-sugar "crusade" any more than is the American Heart Association (which has spoken to the problem of too much sugar in the standard diet). Please read carefully before you respond.
not on anti sugar crusade but demonizes sugar….interesting concept ….almost, as interesting as negative calorie foods...0 -
People die drinking too much water.......moral of story, everything has deleterious effects in excess. Just don't jump up and down saying people are going to die because they drink water.......I'm sure that makes no sense to you based on your current crusade.
Taking a quick look at the reference studies they alluded to the fact that fructose caused insulin resistance. The dosage was 250g's of fructose which is equivalent to 16 cups of soda but you have to realize in order to actually deliver 250 g's of fructose the subject would also be consuming about the same amount of glucose, so say another 250 g's. 500 g's of sugar or 2000 calories from sugar for 7 days.......yeah, that sounds legit. Basically they consumed sugar for a week. lol. I grazed over the other studies and they were all similar. Enough said.
Do you know if there's a link anywhere.......this has to be cleared up just in case some innocent bystanders start having nightmares.
Do you know what metabolic syndrome is.....it doesn't happen in 2 weeks, wow. What dose od fructose were the participants given....better yet link the study.
Labeling someone "anti-science" is a poor tactic.
LOL I did not know that yahoo answers is the peer reviewed source that all scientists turn to in their times of need...
I have explained my choice of that short answer. To keep on harping on it is to lose sight of the other points that I have made in this thread and the very serious research that is being done. Dr. Richard Johnson and his team of medical researchers were able to produce metabolic syndrome IN TWO WEEKS in 60% of normal-weight, male subjects, by giving them a large, high fructose drink every day. The researchers were startled and chagrined with their results. They were actually looking for the possibility that there was some mechanism by which normal-weight people were able to deal more effectively with large amounts of fructose. While the dose was admittedly a large one, it was certainly not beyond what many people drink in soda pop every day.
the "study" was actually some kind of forum on "food addiction" and "sugar addiction" so I am sure that all the "MD's" present were fair and unbiased towards sugar....
found it:
http://www.foodaddictionsummit.org/presenters-johnson.htm
EDIT: math
That 16 cups of soda is well within the consumption of many obese folk. That is only 8 large tumblers of soda (or 4 "Big Gulps"). My Type II diabetic brother (and he is decidedly NOT unusual in that respect) would, in the past, easily drink that every day. He actually was not very obese at any point--just a pot belly. But he is quite tall (6'2") and used to be athletic. When he was diagnosed with Type II--the docs told him to eat low-fat, which he did faithfully (and, at my sister's suggestion, he switched to diet soda) and yet, his diabetes became much worse. His diet mainly consisted then and now, of carbohydrates and he was never, at any point restricted from sugar by his doctors. He is now insulin-dependent. I, on the other hand, immediately cut out added sugar when I was told by my doctor that my blood sugar level was too high. My FBS, HgA1C, and triglycerides are now perfect. Coincidence--probably not. Look, despite what you sugar advocates seem to think, I am not against a moderate amount of sugar in the diet of healthy, active people (and I have said so, elsewhere in the thread), but for those who are struggling with metabolic derangement of one sort or another (and that is a very large proportion of those over 40) excessive sugar intake is deadly.
Did you actually read the post that you responded to? You are arguing with a straw man. I am NOT on an anti-sugar "crusade" any more than is the American Heart Association (which has spoken to the problem of too much sugar in the standard diet). Please read carefully before you respond.
not on anti sugar crusade but demonizes sugar….interesting concept ….almost, as interesting as negative calorie foods...
The so-called "demonization" of sugar is an apparent obsession of yours. What does it matter if I detest sugary foods (which I do not--I just don't eat them for the sake of my health)? Your situation is obviously different from mine.0 -
Did you actually read the post that you responded to? You are arguing with a straw man. I am NOT on an anti-sugar "crusade" any more than is the American Heart Association (which has spoken to the problem of too much sugar in the standard diet). Please read carefully before you respond.
not on anti sugar crusade but demonizes sugar….interesting concept ….almost, as interesting as negative calorie foods...
The so-called "demonization" of sugar is an apparent obsession of yours. What does it matter if I detest sugary foods (which I do not--I just don't eat them for the sake of my health)? Your situation is obviously different from mine.
because you are spreading mis-information to people who may not be very knowledgable and then think that if all they do is just eliminate all sugar that will lead to long term sustainable solutions; when in reality, if they just moderated their intake, ate in a deficit, and worked out/moved more they would have much better long term success.0 -
Did you actually read the post that you responded to? You are arguing with a straw man. I am NOT on an anti-sugar "crusade" any more than is the American Heart Association (which has spoken to the problem of too much sugar in the standard diet). Please read carefully before you respond.
not on anti sugar crusade but demonizes sugar….interesting concept ….almost, as interesting as negative calorie foods...
The so-called "demonization" of sugar is an apparent obsession of yours. What does it matter if I detest sugary foods (which I do not--I just don't eat them for the sake of my health)? Your situation is obviously different from mine.
because you are spreading mis-information to people who may not be very knowledgable and then think that if all they do is just eliminate all sugar that will lead to long term sustainable solutions; when in reality, if they just moderated their intake, ate in a deficit, and worked out/moved more they would have much better long term success.
It is NOT misinformation! I NEVER said that total calories are not important and it is outrageous to suggest that I did! I have always maintained that cutting out added sugar (I also eliminated wheat from my diet for other reasons) was an important part of MY lowering of calories. Because it eliminates calories that are devoid of other nutrients, it is, in my case, a healthier way to achieve that all important lowering of calories. I tried the "moderation" way for many years and it just contributed to "yo-yo" dieting/gaining/dieting, etc and I ended up being exhausted, irritable and malnourished to boot. I simply cannot afford to eat sugar, nor do I want to but I have always maintained that, for young, healthy active people a bit of sugar in moderation is probably harmless (but there is also the consideration that cancer cells thrive in a high blood sugar environment and cancer is no longer a disease of old age).
The window of calories with "moderation" is quite small. Just 100 calories extra per day over 10 years will put a whopping 100 excess pounds on an individual. Read the linked article on my thread "What the Japanese Know About Being Slim". It looks at the possible reasons why the Japanese are almost universally slender while Western adults are almost universally overweight (with a significant portion of them in the obese category). The Japanese are confounded by our Western habit of eating what they consider to be "fake" food. They eat very little sugar as well.0 -
"...just eliminate all sugar that will lead to long term sustainable solutions; when in reality, if they just moderated their intake, ate in a deficit, and worked out/moved more they would have much better long term success..."
Works for me. I have not gained a single ounce in the three years since I eliminated added sugar. I never had any success with the approach you suggest and it was NOT for lack of trying.
ETA: By the way, very few people are going to be able to move enough to offset the extra empty calories of added sugar. Arthritis is epidemic among people over 40.0 -
yea thats never happened to me from a piece of cake...maybe if i ate the WHOLE cake0
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There are a couple of interesting rat studies looking at the effects of maternal high sucrose consumption on response to sucrose and/or adiposity in the offspring. To me, it suggests that (in rats at least) a high sugar diet in the mum, might cause epigenetic alterations in the children that may not be favourable from a metabolic perspective. If it translates to humans, it would seem that some people may genuinely find that not limiting added sugar or refined carbs may result in some sort of metabolic disadvantage.
It's just my 2cents because I find this topic fascinating, and I also notice that some people claim to respond badly to even small amounts of sugars/refined carbs etc.
PS. Can never manage to add links working on my iPad.0
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