Why "clean eating" is a myth
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I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.0
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I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
No, but you do get extra credit. I mean, clearly there is no nutriontal value in ice cream it has 0 calories.0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
Way to miss the point.0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
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I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
Hmm I feel like you should be directed to this thread:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1208483-flexible-dieting-iifym-myths0 -
Not everyone is intelligent enough to understand subtle concepts like context and dosage.0
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I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
DRI, RDA, or UL?0 -
Not everyone is intelligent enough to understand subtle concepts like context and dosage.
No, unfortunately not. This is why there is rampant misinformation regarding nutrition. People need simple.0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
DRI, RDA, or UL?
All of the above. for example the gov't says you only need 3500mg of potassium yet it's widely recognized that 4,700mg is the proper amount. This is true across the board.
And yes, getting more than you need of Vitamin C and Zinc for instance CAN help with colds and illnesses. So... there's that.0 -
If certain foods make up the bulk of your diet you won't be getting any vitamins and mineralsI think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
DRI, RDA, or UL?
All of the above. for example the gov't says you only need 3500mg of potassium yet it's widely recognized that 4,700mg is the proper amount. This is true across the board.
And yes, getting more than you need of Vitamin C and Zinc for instance CAN help with colds and illnesses. So... there's that.
Pretty sure the vitamin C and zinc helps with colds thing has been completely and thoroughly debunked.0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
DRI, RDA, or UL?
All of the above. for example the gov't says you only need 3500mg of potassium yet it's widely recognized that 4,700mg is the proper amount. This is true across the board.
And yes, getting more than you need of Vitamin C and Zinc for instance CAN help with colds and illnesses. So... there's that.
I agree on most counts. Even gov recommendations for protein and fats are low.0 -
Nevermind. I can't keep up. :laugh:0
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I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
DRI, RDA, or UL?
All of the above. for example the gov't says you only need 3500mg of potassium yet it's widely recognized that 4,700mg is the proper amount. This is true across the board.
And yes, getting more than you need of Vitamin C and Zinc for instance CAN help with colds and illnesses. So... there's that.
Pretty sure the vitamin C and zinc helps with colds thing has been completely and thoroughly debunked.
Show me the science plz.0 -
If certain foods make up the bulk of your diet you won't be getting any vitamins and mineralsI think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
Not a single person is debating that.
Also, water generally can aid in hydration.0 -
If certain foods make up the bulk of your diet you won't be getting any vitamins and mineralsI think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
Well that's true. For instance, if your whole diet was broccoli and kale you wouldn't be getting enough nutrients or vitamins.
Fortunately people have thought of this and IIFYM or flexible eating has taken this into account. You should read about it.0 -
wow that's rude and uncalled forNot everyone is intelligent enough to understand subtle concepts like context and dosage.
No, unfortunately not. This is why there is rampant misinformation regarding nutrition. People need simple.0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
DRI, RDA, or UL?
All of the above. for example the gov't says you only need 3500mg of potassium yet it's widely recognized that 4,700mg is the proper amount. This is true across the board.
And yes, getting more than you need of Vitamin C and Zinc for instance CAN help with colds and illnesses. So... there's that.
Pretty sure the vitamin C and zinc helps with colds thing has been completely and thoroughly debunked.
Show me the science plz.
I had the flu in January. Quick Googling said Vitamin C was useless but zinc could potentially help.0 -
If certain foods make up the bulk of your diet you won't be getting any vitamins and mineralsI think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
Not a single person is debating that.
Also, water generally can aid in hydration.
the debate lies in whether fortified nutrients are equivalent to fresh, whole food nutrients tbh. Jonny thinks they're equivalent. Many don't. I tend to believe that the nutrients in a tomato picked today are more bioavailable and potent than the nutrients coming from rocks that are injected into a poptart0 -
I think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
you do actually, since the amount of vitamins "you need" set by the government forces that be is ridiculously low.
DRI, RDA, or UL?
All of the above. for example the gov't says you only need 3500mg of potassium yet it's widely recognized that 4,700mg is the proper amount. This is true across the board.
And yes, getting more than you need of Vitamin C and Zinc for instance CAN help with colds and illnesses. So... there's that.
Pretty sure the vitamin C and zinc helps with colds thing has been completely and thoroughly debunked.
Show me the science plz.
I'm mobile so can't do much research at the moment. Should be easy to Google.0 -
wow that's rude and uncalled forNot everyone is intelligent enough to understand subtle concepts like context and dosage.
No, unfortunately not. This is why there is rampant misinformation regarding nutrition. People need simple.
And yet it is 100% true. Though, I was speaking in general terms, not necessarily directing it at you.0 -
fructose from fruit IS fine while fructose from pop tarts is less fine.
Ok, so they're both fine, and one is just even more fine than the other.
Got it.0 -
fructose from fruit IS fine while fructose from pop tarts is less fine.
Ok, so they're both fine, and one is just even more fine than the other.
Got it.
glad.
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No I gave my opinion and because you didn't agree with it you called me an idiot. That's intelligent.
wow that's rude and uncalled forNot everyone is intelligent enough to understand subtle concepts like context and dosage.
No, unfortunately not. This is why there is rampant misinformation regarding nutrition. People need simple.
And yet it is 100% true. Though, I was speaking in general terms, not necessarily directing it at you.0 -
If certain foods make up the bulk of your diet you won't be getting any vitamins and mineralsI think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
Not a single person is debating that.
Also, water generally can aid in hydration.
the debate lies in whether fortified nutrients are equivalent to fresh, whole food nutrients tbh. Jonny thinks they're equivalent. Many don't. I tend to believe that the nutrients in a tomato picked today are more bioavailable and potent than the nutrients coming from rocks that are injected into a poptart
If it is exactly the same nutrients in a form my body can digest it wouldn't know the difference, but my taste buds would. I think that most arguments that are sound are based on the fact that the nutrient content is often unequal.0 -
No I gave my opinion and because you didn't agree with it you called me an idiot. That's intelligent.
wow that's rude and uncalled forNot everyone is intelligent enough to understand subtle concepts like context and dosage.
No, unfortunately not. This is why there is rampant misinformation regarding nutrition. People need simple.
And yet it is 100% true. Though, I was speaking in general terms, not necessarily directing it at you.
No, he didn't.0 -
If certain foods make up the bulk of your diet you won't be getting any vitamins and mineralsI think the whole article is utter crap. There ARE foods that are highly nutritious, you know loaded with vitamins, minerals, the stuff your body needs to actually function. There are also foods that are empty calories that offer little more beyond "I eat you because you taste good." Having icecream or a treat here and there while "eating well" (I though there were no bad foods huh) most of the time like he's suggesting--Wow that's hardly revolutionary! Notice how he didn't advocate eating "junk" 100% of the time. But hey Mr, since clean eating doesn't exist is it ok if I go ahead and eat nothing but donuts, Twinkies and the like 90% of the time right? Since there's no bad foods and all foods are equally nutritious my health won't suffer, nah...just wow.
This post makes no sense. You don't get bonus points for getyig way more vitamins than you need.
Not a single person is debating that.
Also, water generally can aid in hydration.
the debate lies in whether fortified nutrients are equivalent to fresh, whole food nutrients tbh. Jonny thinks they're equivalent. Many don't. I tend to believe that the nutrients in a tomato picked today are more bioavailable and potent than the nutrients coming from rocks that are injected into a poptart
Well...the tomato has additional properties that the poptart does not. Antioxidents, enzymes, etc. It really isn't a comparison.
But I do see johnnythan telling people to eat veggies...so I doubt he is against eating that tomato.0 -
Well...the tomato has additional properties that the poptart does not. Antioxidents, enzymes, etc. It really isn't a comparison.
But I do see johnnythan telling people to eat veggies...so I doubt he is against eating that tomato.
Bleck.....I hate tomatoes. :noway:0 -
not everyone is intelligent enough...
No I gave my opinion and because you didn't agree with it you called me an idiot. That's intelligent.
wow that's rude and uncalled forNot everyone is intelligent enough to understand subtle concepts like context and dosage.
No, unfortunately not. This is why there is rampant misinformation regarding nutrition. People need simple.
And yet it is 100% true. Though, I was speaking in general terms, not necessarily directing it at you.
No, he didn't.0
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