Why "clean eating" is a myth

Blue801

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

That's burgler cancer; he just breaks in.

ETA: sorry for the uncalled for level of silly. It has been a long day.

SunofaBeach14

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

cwsreddy

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

geebusuk

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

SunofaBeach14

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

The argument above indicates that if you don't eat clean then you will get cancer. I haven't seen any links there.For one, you all can't even identify what it is that clean eating is. It seems to consist of organic, non-GMO, raw, non-dairy, not in a box, on the perimeter of a grocery store, etc. depending on who you talk to.

We know about antioxidants. We know that fiber helps with colon health. We have indications that certain foods are connected with stomach cancer. But what does "clean" have to do with any of this?

fast_eddie_72

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

jonnythan

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

80/20 means you can have a McDouble every day, basically. I hardly consider that clean. If you do then the idea of clean eating is rather... diluted.

cwsreddy

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

You've never heard of a runner dying of a heart attack or a former athlete dying of a heart attack or a triathlete developing cancer at a young age? I can keep going.

Weight =/= Fitness =/= Health

There's a reason they are three separate words.

jonnythan

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

Because well and clean are different things.

fast_eddie_72

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

The argument above indicates that if you don't eat clean then you will get cancer.

You're reading a LOT into a humorous little anecdote about cancer knocking at your door.

SunofaBeach14

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

No one is suggesting that "eating well" isn't going to help. The devil lies in the details and that is what is meant by "eating well."

cwsreddy

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

80/20 means you can have a McDouble every day, basically. I hardly consider that clean. If you do then the idea of clean eating is rather... diluted.

Why is it with you folks that you're either a clean eating nazi who ONLY EATS CLEAN EVAR! or you're a fast food junkie like yourself? Why is there never any middle ground allowed?

Today I ate clean, two days ago I had pizza and french fries. Does this make me NOT a clean eater? Does it mean I eat clean 80% of the time? It's such a stupid argument.

cwsreddy

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

Because well and clean are different things.

what's the difference in your mind?

SunofaBeach14

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

The argument above indicates that if you don't eat clean then you will get cancer.

You're reading a LOT into a humorous little anecdote about cancer knocking at your door.

Okay. Please explain what YOU are arguing about then because you have thus far added damn little to the conversation. Not that I'm surprised.

fast_eddie_72

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

No one is suggesting that "eating well" isn't going to help. The devil lies in the details and that is what is meant by "eating well."

Um. That's kind of over-looking the BIG detail. You know. The part where cancer doesn't really knock on your door.

jonnythan

I dunno. Eating clean isn't my thing. I don't try to define the exact % of my diet needs to be clean to decrease my cancer risk by .000001%

fast_eddie_72

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

The argument above indicates that if you don't eat clean then you will get cancer.

You're reading a LOT into a humorous little anecdote about cancer knocking at your door.

Okay. Please explain what YOU are arguing about then because you have thus far added damn little to the conversation. Not that I'm surprised.

No one has added anything in 10 pages. That's kind of the point.

cwsreddy

I dunno. Eating clean isn't my thing. I don't try to define the exact % of my diet needs to be clean to decrease my cancer risk by .000001%

so you said there's a difference between eating well and eating clean but that you don't know what it is?

jonnythan

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

Because well and clean are different things.

what's the difference in your mind?

Eating well means you're giving your body the appropriate mutrients.

Eating clean means you're only getting those nutrients from certain sources (80% of the time if you do the 80/20 thing I guess) as defined by one of several definitions of clean.

cwsreddy

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

Because well and clean are different things.

what's the difference in your mind?

Eating well means you're giving your body the appropriate mutrients.

Eating clean means you're only getting those nutrients from certain sources (80% of the time if you do the 80/20 thing I guess) as defined by one of several definitions of clean.

and where it breaks down is that you feel that nutrients artificially added to pop tarts are just as good as nutrients from a fresh, whole food source.

it's all so complicated. lol

SunofaBeach14

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

The argument above indicates that if you don't eat clean then you will get cancer.

You're reading a LOT into a humorous little anecdote about cancer knocking at your door.

Okay. Please explain what YOU are arguing about then because you have thus far added damn little to the conversation. Not that I'm surprised.

No one has added anything in 10 pages. That's kind of the point.

So a discussion thread on clean eating is a waste for you. That's dandy. Congratulations.

fast_eddie_72

I dunno. Eating clean isn't my thing. I don't try to define the exact % of my diet needs to be clean to decrease my cancer risk by .000001%

What if it decreases your risk of cancer 70%, but increases your risk of heart disease 4% and makes you more attractive to the ladies, but gives you erectile dysfunction?

jonnythan

Evidence I've seen also suggests that physical fitness and not being obese are more important than what you eat in most cases.

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

Because well and clean are different things.

what's the difference in your mind?

Eating well means you're giving your body the appropriate mutrients.

Eating clean means you're only getting those nutrients from certain sources (80% of the time if you do the 80/20 thing I guess) as defined by one of several definitions of clean.

and where it breaks down is that you feel that nutrients artificially added to pop tarts are just as good as nutrients from a fresh, whole food source.

it's all so complicated. lol

Well it's complicated to you but not me. I treat sugar like sugar wherever it comes from. It gets complicated when you want to say fructose from one source is good but it's bad from another source.

geebusuk

I agree. I suggest doing both. Eat well and get fit. Sounds like a plan. So why is it BS to suggest that eating well can help you avoid getting cancer?

Has anyone suggested that.

Incidentally, I believe (little fuzzy on the figures), that living somewhere with a 1% lower GPD reduces your chance of some cancers by 1%.

So moving to a significantly poorer country could mean LOADS of bad eating and no lower risk of cancer .

fast_eddie_72

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

So clean eating, as opposed to a 80/20 diet is going to save anyone? Good luck with that.

Why are those two things independent of the other?

The argument above indicates that if you don't eat clean then you will get cancer.

You're reading a LOT into a humorous little anecdote about cancer knocking at your door.

Okay. Please explain what YOU are arguing about then because you have thus far added damn little to the conversation. Not that I'm surprised.

No one has added anything in 10 pages. That's kind of the point.

So a discussion thread on clean eating is a waste for you. That's dandy. Congratulations.

lol This stopped being a discussion about clean eating a long time ago. You're arguing about a story where cancer knocks on the door like a traveling salesman.

magerum

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

Almost certainly...breathing water will kill you. Almost.

dbmata

This is all mythed up.

cwsreddy

and where it breaks down is that you feel that nutrients artificially added to pop tarts are just as good as nutrients from a fresh, whole food source.

it's all so complicated. lol

Well it's complicated to you but not me. I treat sugar like sugar wherever it comes from. It gets complicated when you want to say fructose from one source is good but it's bad from another source.

fructose from fruit IS fine while fructose from pop tarts is less fine. the individual eating styles are NOT complicated. what I clearly meant was that arguing with (fill in the blanks) like you is complicated because (again) you're all intentionally obtuse.

cwsreddy

*knock knock*
Me: yes?
Cancer: hi mam, I'm cancer. I've noticed you haven't been eating clean lately. Mind if I...,
Me: no! I don't want any! Go away!
*slam*

Ridiculous.

Not all cancer is lifestyle based. To argue otherwise is beyond ignorant of the available science on the subject.

But evidence shows that some almost certainly is.

Almost certainly...breathing water will kill you. Almost.

you realize, of course, that there is no certainty in nutrition or science yes? jonny even agreed on that point. so not sure what you're trying to prove other than that you're still trolling after all this time.

wheird

Thank you for posting, ninerbuff. The article has valid points.