Why "clean eating" is a myth
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And people lean on that definition to support the fact that the food is no longer considered clean because it's been processed, therefore for the most part nothing is clean, therefore clean has no definition ad nauseam. Not saying everyone thinks this way but I see it every time a thread talks about clean.
This is one aspect that I think confuses people. Grind corn and toast it to make a cup then fill with ingredients of your choice, normally recognizable like pork, chicken peppers, cilantro......so the argument is because the corn was ground, normally mortar and pestle it's no longer a whole food but some concoction that is somehow less than the sum of it's parts or something to that thought process.
How in the world is a chalupa a whole food? An apple is a whole food.Unless there is a reason, like "I really love Chalupas and still want to eat them regularly."
I don't know what you are talking about, because here in Mexico Chalupas are 100% clean/natural/whole foods and that is why I enjoy them and other botanas often.....yay !
I don't think most people have a problem with the process of grinding corn up and making a tortilla from it, but a tortilla is no longer a whole food. The corn is. A taco can be made from 100% natural, processed-by-hand ingredients but it's not a whole food.0 -
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"What’s more, ADA research indicates that diets with more rules than a cricket match are difficult to follow on a long-term basis, which makes someone more likely to fall off the wagon and into a Roscoe’s House of Chicken ’n Waffles."
Amusing:
"Also, hydrocolonic therapy isn’t regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, which means that anyone with a water hose and a Dirt Devil can call themselves a “professional.” Here’s a thought: You need a license to cut hair and paint fingernails but not to Roto-Rooter someone’s rear end."0 -
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.
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I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.0 -
Unless there is a reason, like "I really love Chalupas and still want to eat them regularly."
I don't know what you are talking about, because here in Mexico Chalupas are 100% clean/natural/whole foods and that is why I enjoy them and other botanas often.....yay !
I honestly didn't know chalupas were an actual thing. I figured it was some word Taco Bell made up that sounded vaguely like a Mexican food :laugh:
You get the idea though. "I really really like a lot of foods that are not considered clean, see no reason to cut them out, and will probably have compliance issues if I try" is a good enough reason for many people not to "try" eating clean.
Yes, I get what you are saying, but would like to add that this statement is only applicable and true as far as Taco Bell is concerned.
Here in Mexico Chalupas are a mde-on-the-spot food and are made by grinding all natural corn that has been nixtamalized ( natural process that makes the nutrients in the corn more readily available ) and forming them and baking/toasting them on an artesanal or commericl comal/griddle. They are then stuffed with refried beans , topped with shredded lettuce, onions and salsa and topped with fresh cheese, or if people can spend more there is chicken , pork or beef between the beans and the green stuff.
Since here in Mexico everything ( as far as Chalupas are concerned ) is freshly made from scratch I consider them to be " whole & healthy " nutritious food. I have no idea how they are made at Taco bell and what chemicals the different ingredients have to ensure a relative shelf life in a national chain restaurant, but also have no idea what the original quality of the ingredients is like. Most likely that does not play a big role for weight loss, but could make a big difference imo as far as health is concerned.0 -
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.
Wait, what? Is there something wrong with posting an opinion piece, particularly an opinion piece that has 100+ actual references?0 -
sheep say bahhh0
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Why would they try to dismay people from eating healthy foods? Sure, calorie in-calorie out for weightloss, but weight isn't the only indicator of health.0
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http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.
He doesn't need a source. The blog article cites their sources. He's simply presenting the information. In this way, the OP is nothing more than a portal for the information. And he's basically just asking people to support their criticism of the piece with their own sources, which is a reasonable request.
If the OP was claiming the piece as his own, he'd need to cite his source. Then again, the article already has the sources. So....
What exactly is your problem?
And what, pray tell, is the most appropriate citation method for a blog editorial? MLA, APA, Chicago? Give me a break.0 -
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.
You should've read instead of making ridiculous statements.
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I LIKE GIRL SCOUT COOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!0
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Unless there is a reason, like "I really love Chalupas and still want to eat them regularly."
I don't know what you are talking about, because here in Mexico Chalupas are 100% clean/natural/whole foods and that is why I enjoy them and other botanas often.....yay !
I honestly didn't know chalupas were an actual thing. I figured it was some word Taco Bell made up that sounded vaguely like a Mexican food :laugh:
You get the idea though. "I really really like a lot of foods that are not considered clean, see no reason to cut them out, and will probably have compliance issues if I try" is a good enough reason for many people not to "try" eating clean.
Yes, I get what you are saying, but would like to add that this statement is only applicable and true as far as Taco Bell is concerned.
Here in Mexico Chalupas are a mde-on-the-spot food and are made by grinding all natural corn that has been nixtamalized ( natural process that makes the nutrients in the corn more readily available ) and forming them and baking/toasting them on an artesanal or commericl comal/griddle. They are then stuffed with refried beans , topped with shredded lettuce, onions and salsa and topped with fresh cheese, or if people can spend more there is chicken , pork or beef between the beans and the green stuff.
Since here in Mexico everything ( as far as Chalupas are concerned ) is freshly made from scratch I consider them to be " whole & healthy " nutritious food. I have no idea how they are made at Taco bell and what chemicals the different ingredients have to ensure a relative shelf life in a national chain restaurant, but also have no idea what the original quality of the ingredients is like. Most likely that does not play a big role for weight loss, but could make a big difference imo as far as health is concerned.
Nutritionally speaking that isn't a whole food anymore... That's why I was perplexed. I had thought you were being sarcastic at first, but now I see you were not.
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http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.
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I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.
You should've read instead of making ridiculous statements.
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98. Donini LM, Marsili D, Graziani MP, Imbriale M, Cannella C. Orthorexia nervosa: a preliminary study with a proposal for diagnosis and an attempt to measure the dimension of the phenomenon. Eat Weight Disord. 2004;9(2):151–157.
99. Eriksson L, Baigi A, Marklund B, Lindgren EC. Social physique anxiety and sociocultural attitudes toward appearance impact on orthorexia test in fitness participants. Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2008;18(3):389–394. doi:10.1111/j.1600-0838.2007.00723.x.
100. Fidan T, Ertekin V, Isikay S, Kirpinar I. Prevalence of orthorexia among medical students in Erzurum, Turkey. Compr Psychiatry. 2010;51(1):49–54. doi:10.1016/j.comppsych.2009.03.001.
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105. Meule A, Papies EK, Kubler A. Differentiating between successful and unsuccessful dieters. Validity and reliability of the Perceived Self-Regulatory Success in Dieting Scale. Appetite. 2012;58(3):822–826. doi:10.1016/j.appet.2012.01.028.
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http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.
You should've read instead of making ridiculous statements.
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This was helpful.
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What's super helpful is quoting the huge list multiple times. Well done.0
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I agree with the comment about people taking it too far. I've had so many people say if you want to fix this eat this way, or you HAVE to be gluten free to lose this etc. If one more person tells me to go gluten free because its popular right now I'm going to eat an entire loaf of white bread infront of them to shut them up. If a particular "Diet" works for one person it doesn't mean it will work for another. And every 6 months or so its try this, or try that, Its like eating has turned into fads and its so exhausting. No one ever talks about blanace anymore. You have to balance everything you consume and see what works for you. Of course limiting processed is better for you, but seriously, people go overboard and throw it in your face so much I don't even listen anymore.
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And way easier to read than simply pointing out that they were there...
I posted the list for dramatic effect!!!
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Eating clean= wash your hamburgers. Hahaha. Eat, drink and be merry. Everybody really takes this **** toooo serious. Eat, train the way you like to train, look in the mirror. You like what you see ? good. You don't like what you see ? Train Harder !!!!! But the most important part is enjoy the journey, have some fun with it. Nothing bothers me more than uptight people at the gym in tight spandex shirts looking like a scarecrow giving other people advice. All of the true champions I have met in life have always been really easy going and happy. That's the whole point here boys and girls, happiness, achievement of goals = winning at life. I eat a diet I "think" is healthy what you think could and more than likely is the complete polar opposite. However, that does not mean either one of us is right or wrong.
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Agree on the the first four.That can apply to almost anything. I read these forums a lot and have heard varying definitions of Paleo, Primal, clean, whole, and even IIFYM and 'everything in moderation'.
I do tend to use the last, so of course I'll suggest otherwise for that.
For ME, IIFYM isn't a complete diet plan to follow (although often for me it actually IS pretty much, but let's ignore that for the moment), but more for me an expression used to stop people worrying about eating some food they might enjoy...
Question - "Can I have some chocolate cake or will the entire piece of cake get stuck in my heart causing me to die from sugar-fat-death?"
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And people lean on that definition to support the fact that the food is no longer considered clean because it's been processed, therefore for the most part nothing is clean, therefore clean has no definition ad nauseam. Not saying everyone thinks this way but I see it every time a thread talks about clean.
This is one aspect that I think confuses people. Grind corn and toast it to make a cup then fill with ingredients of your choice, normally recognizable like pork, chicken peppers, cilantro......so the argument is because the corn was ground, normally mortar and pestle it's no longer a whole food but some concoction that is somehow less than the sum of it's parts or something to that thought process.
How in the world is a chalupa a whole food? An apple is a whole food.Unless there is a reason, like "I really love Chalupas and still want to eat them regularly."
I don't know what you are talking about, because here in Mexico Chalupas are 100% clean/natural/whole foods and that is why I enjoy them and other botanas often.....yay !
I don't think most people have a problem with the process of grinding corn up and making a tortilla from it, but a tortilla is no longer a whole food. The corn is. A taco can be made from 100% natural, processed-by-hand ingredients but it's not a whole food.
Technically, eating "clean" and eating "whole foods" are two different concepts, though often over-lapping. If you're growing or buying organic corn then grinding it up yourself using a mortar and pestle and adding nothing unnatural to it, just water and spices and things, I would say that's definitely clean eating. That's different then buying it from a store where it was produced in a factory using all kinds of additives, preservatives, fillers, etc, not to mention the corn itself which may have been grown with all kinds of pesticides, etc. Making it yourself is not the same as buying packaged, processed food. Whether or not a it's a "whole" food can still be debated because it's been ground up aka "processed" technically, but I don't see why it's not clean.0 -
IN for anyone telling niner to shut up :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0
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Nutritionally speaking that isn't a whole food anymore... That's why I was perplexed. I had thought you were being sarcastic at first, but now I see you were not.
Just going to hide now.
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Why do you think that ? Is it because none is whole in the sense of being in it's original state ? That confuses me, because whole foods in the field of nutrition does not mean that you have to eat things in their natural state, but that they are consumed from whole foods that are only " processed " ( processed as in grinding, chopping, cooking, baking etc and not as in making one thing out of another, adding chemicals to most often ensure long shelf life and more ) for immediate consumption. Usually the definition in the field of nutrition is that " whole food is minimally processed and always unrefined ".0 -
I haven't waded through the posts in this thread so forgive me if this is already something that has been discussed.
There are some nuggets of truth in this article but it takes too strong of a position in some areas and ends up contradicting itself.
One of the first things it says is the notion that "There are good and bad foods, and you should only eat a small number of the bad foods to limit the damage" is "irrational, unscientific, and unhealthy."
But later in the article it says: "Consuming moderate amounts of sugar does not decrease insulin sensitivity or impair your ability to process glucose, as long as you maintain your weight and don’t over-eat."
It seems to be a contradiction. Semantically, I suppose you could argue that "Small amounts" doesn't mean "moderate amounts" so the point stands. But the implied meaning here is not really accurate. Insulin resistance seems like a pretty credible problem to me. On the other hand, I don't have immediate access to the journals he cites on that last point, so perhaps he has mis-stated them and the insulin resistence potential does NOT change if you eat too much sugar. I seriously doubt it, however.0 -
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Nutritionally speaking that isn't a whole food anymore... That's why I was perplexed. I had thought you were being sarcastic at first, but now I see you were not.
Just going to hide now.
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Maybe the fact that I am not a native speaker of English ( even though I got both my MAs in Nutritional Science from US Universities and that is where I learned those principles ) is the reason for my not explaining things well....maybe.
I learned that what I described is a " whole foods " based diet and I use the word to avoid the dreaded " clean eating " expression because I am sick and tired of the " I wash my hamburger and therefore I eat clean " gang and all those other inflexible members who do nothing but repeat the same baseless stuff over and over again without giving it any major thought. Maybe I need to use " whole foods based " in the future to make myself more clear.
In no way am I saying that this diet is better, except where personal choice and preference are concerned, but would like to make the point that often something that is considered junk in one country/culture/area or family is concerned more healthy ( I hope that is an acceptable expression...no sarcasm intended ) in another, because the basic ingredients are different , as it could possibly be the case with those Chalupitas....:o).
For example for me a certain type of pizza could be healthy/natural/whole food based if home made from all natural ingredients, while I would automatically assume that a pizza from a chain or frozen from a super market would not fall under the same category.0 -
Nutritionally speaking that isn't a whole food anymore... That's why I was perplexed. I had thought you were being sarcastic at first, but now I see you were not.
Just going to hide now.
Maybe the fact that I am not a native speaker of English ( even though I got both my MAs in Nutritional Science from US Universities and that is where I learned those principles ) is the reason for my not explaining things well....maybe.
I learned that what I described is a " whole foods " based diet and I use the word to avoid the dreaded " clean eating " expression because I am sick and tired of the " I wash my hamburger and therefore I eat clean " gang and all those other inflexible members who do nothing but repeat the same baseless stuff over and over again without giving it any major thought. Maybe I need to use " whole foods based " in the future to make myself more clear.
In no way am I saying that this diet is better, except where personal choice and preference are concerned, but would like to make the point that often something that is considered junk in one country/culture/area or family is concerned more healthy ( I hope that is an acceptable expression...no sarcasm intended ) in another, because the basic ingredients are different , as it could possibly be the case with those Chalupitas....:o).
For example for me a certain type of pizza could be healthy/natural/whole food based if home made from all natural ingredients, while I would automatically assume that a pizza from a chain or frozen from a super market would not fall under the same category.
Perhaps the difference between a local taqueria that prepares butterflied chicken on the grill versus taco bell where they squeeze the "meat" (is it even 100% meat these days?) out of a bag?0 -
Nutritionally speaking that isn't a whole food anymore... That's why I was perplexed. I had thought you were being sarcastic at first, but now I see you were not.
Just going to hide now.
Maybe the fact that I am not a native speaker of English ( even though I got both my MAs in Nutritional Science from US Universities and that is where I learned those principles ) is the reason for my not explaining things well....maybe.
I learned that what I described is a " whole foods " based diet and I use the word to avoid the dreaded " clean eating " expression because I am sick and tired of the " I wash my hamburger and therefore I eat clean " gang and all those other inflexible members who do nothing but repeat the same baseless stuff over and over again without giving it any major thought. Maybe I need to use " whole foods based " in the future to make myself more clear.
In no way am I saying that this diet is better, except where personal choice and preference are concerned, but would like to make the point that often something that is considered junk in one country/culture/area or family is concerned more healthy ( I hope that is an acceptable expression...no sarcasm intended ) in another, because the basic ingredients are different , as it could possibly be the case with those Chalupitas....:o).
For example for me a certain type of pizza could be healthy/natural/whole food based if home made from all natural ingredients, while I would automatically assume that a pizza from a chain or frozen from a super market would not fall under the same category.
Perhaps the difference between a local taqueria that prepares butterflied chicken on the grill versus taco bell where they squeeze the "meat" (is it even 100% meat these days?) out of a bag?
The chicken and steak are just chicken and steak with seasoning. The "taco meat" is mostly ground beef and seasoning with a little bit (like 5%) of oats to help it retain moisture and improve the texture.0 -
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.
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I just find the term "clean" to be meaningless in and of itself. Nutrient dense and calorie dense are far useful IMO.0 -
If I read that right, the guy who wrote that is 18 and doesn't appear to have much of an education in nutrition or anything like that, just an eating disorder. And he admits he has a tendency to take things to extremes. He ate too little and exercised too much, I don't see what that really has to do with clean eating.
He made some valid arguments but I think the article is misleading. Junk food is not a food group. You don't need junk food to achieve a balanced, healthy diet. Yes, you can eat a balanced, healthy diet and still eat some junk food. I don't need to drink Diet Coke and Cheetos to be healthy. Eating "clean" is not going to harm your body, but avoiding certain food groups and depriving your body of certain nutrients could. A lot of junk food is not actually "food". It is a bunch of substances put together to make something we might ingest. Have you looked at the ingredients of the things you put in your mouth? I figure if I can't pronounce it, it's probably not a necessity of my diet.
I'm sorry but I will eat as clean or as unclean as I want and will choose not to take my advice from any 18 year old with a computer.0 -
Nutritionally speaking that isn't a whole food anymore... That's why I was perplexed. I had thought you were being sarcastic at first, but now I see you were not.
Just going to hide now.
Why do you think that ? Is it because none is whole in the sense of being in it's original state ? That confuses me, because whole foods in the field of nutrition does not mean that you have to eat things in their natural state, but that they are consumed from whole foods that are only " processed " ( processed as in grinding, chopping, cooking, baking etc and not as in making one thing out of another, adding chemicals to most often ensure long shelf life and more ) for immediate consumption. Usually the definition in the field of nutrition is that " whole food is minimally processed and always unrefined ".
Just meaning something like cheese isn't exactly a "whole food" and it was just one of many ingredients. I guess whenever one says "minimally processed" is can be very open to interpretation.0
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