Should we eat man made/cooked, or all Natural?

ernestbecker

This statement resonates with me: Not saying it's true, but.... I think we could also replace the word "cook" with the word "make".

“Humans are the only species smart enough to cook (my addition "make") their food but dumb enough to eat it.” – Einstein

I'm not hating here, just wondering if there's something to this when you consider the sky rocketing obesity rates in our country. Maybe it's less about "self control issues" vs. the food supply? I'm not stating, just asking...

nomeejerome

Gaining weight comes from eating too many calories and that can come from all types of foods.

ernestbecker

Gaining weight comes from eating too many calories and that can come from all types of foods.

so completely back to self control for you??

cwolfman13

I don't think that's it at all...I think it's the plethora of food available which as a whole is relatively cheap. Never have humans had food so widely available as they do right now, and they really don't have to do much for it. Add to that, technological advances have made it so that we naturally move less than we used to.

I don't really think the "making" of food or preparing or cooking food has anything to do with it other than the fact that processed foods tend to be calorie dense and most people tend to be calorie ignorant and completely unaware of what they are eating from an energy standpoint. They just stuff their faces and then go sit at their desks before stuffing their faces again later.

maj1958

If you cook your own food, at least you know exactly what you are eating. Just look at some of the MFP nutrition values for homemade items vs restaurant or prepared ones. Cooking is becoming a lost art.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

I personally believe in QUALITY over QUANTITY.

If you choose quality foods to nourish your body, you don't have to worry about the quantity.

I find it amazing that prior to the beginnings of food manufacturing there were few obese people and no one counted calories.

I have a very active job (I spend less than 2 hours at my desk per day), walk my dogs, strength train and do not over eat - I am being told by the Registered Dietician that I severely under eat and that I should be losing weight at a rapid pace and I am lucky to lose .5 pounds in a months time.

JoRocka

I'm not inclined to make my own chocolate ice cream or oreo's. or beer.

Everything else is game- but not those- I'll continue to eat those.

neanderthin

In........I'm a chef so I have somewhat of a biased view and will just lay back and see how this goes.

cwolfman13

I'm not inclined to make my own chocolate ice cream or oreo's. or beer.

Everything else is game- but not those- I'll continue to eat those.

Agreed on the first two...but you should really trying brewing your own beer...I love it!

I would also add that maybe I'm not understanding this "make" or "cook" thing...people have been cooking forever...obesity epidemic is pretty recent. I'd add that I, for the most part cook from scratch, whole ingredients save for throwing in a can of this or that in on occasion. I don't really eat ready prepared foods that come in a box or anything like that...mostly because I'm a foodie and quality of food is extremely important to me and anything pre-made and packaged pretty much tastes like a horses *kitten* IMHO.

kbmnurse

Eat whatever you want,

neanderthin

I'm not inclined to make my own chocolate ice cream or oreo's. or beer.

Everything else is game- but not those- I'll continue to eat those.

Agreed on the first two...but you should really trying brewing your own beer...I love it!

I would also add that maybe I'm not understanding this "make" or "cook" thing...people have been cooking forever...obesity epidemic is pretty recent. I'd add that I, for the most part cook from scratch, whole ingredients save for throwing in a can of this or that in on occasion. I don't really eat ready prepared foods that come in a box or anything like that...mostly because I'm a foodie and quality of food is extremely important to me and anything pre-made and packaged pretty much tastes like a horses *kitten* IMHO.

I believe that the time frame for fire and cooking is 700,000 yrs or there about along with grinding stones and containers so yeah don't know exactly what natural means.

Mr_Bad_Example

This statement resonates with me: Not saying it's true, but.... I think we could also replace the word "cook" with the word "make".

“Humans are the only species smart enough to cook (my addition "make") their food but dumb enough to eat it.” – Einstein

I'm not hating here, just wondering if there's something to this when you consider the sky rocketing obesity rates in our country. Maybe it's less about "self control issues" vs. the food supply? I'm not stating, just asking...

I think we should make our own choices about what what and how we eat and not worry about anyone else.

Unless that someone else is a highly trained raw vegan athlete.

Go_Mizzou99

I avoid sugar...Don't mean to oversimplify, just trying to make a point using sugar.

Sugar consumption has exponentially increased since the 1850's...the beginning of the steam engines and mechanized porocessing. It took off again after 1920's...the industrial revolution.

People do not instantaneously get fat upon the first bite of sugar, there is a delay. IMHO this is a pretty obvious correlation.



EDIT - forgot the make the IMGs lower case - again :grumble:

zyxst

Gaining weight comes from eating too many calories and that can come from all types of foods.

This

Eat whatever you want,

and this.

I don't care what other people do about/with/to their food. Stay out of my kitchen and I'll stay out of yours.

devil_in_a_blue_dress

Oh, it's you again.

sigsby

I think natural foods are preferable to processed foods. I also believe natural foods are lower in calories than processed foods. An apple has fewer calories than pasta. A tomato has fewer calories than most tomato sauces.

Obestity is caused not only by consuming more calories. It is also caused by a lack of activity. Our lives are not as active as they would have been 100 years ago. Life's daily tasks get easier and we get larger.

sigsby

I avoid sugar...Don't mean to oversimplify, just trying to make a point using sugar.

Sugar consumption has exponentially increased since the 1850's...the beginning of the steam engines and mechanized porocessing. It took off again after 1920's...the industrial revolution.

People do not instantaneously get fat upon the first bite of sugar, there is a delay. IMHO this is a pretty obvious correlation.



EDIT - forgot the make the IMGs lower case - again :grumble:

I wonder where they dug up the statistics from the 1700's.

EllieB_5

I'm 100% against processed foods, but still love my meat (thus I need to eat cooked foods). I've tried the 100% raw/vegan diet but I wound up feeling ill and lethargic. If I don't get animal fats I seem to get ill. I say do what fits your body. Keto seems to be my magic pill, but vegan with high fruit intake may be your magic pill.

PS
The 2lbs on my ticker is a little misleading. I actually lost 6lbs this month according to the other scale I was using but a new scale upped my weight by 4lbs.

1shauna1

I know that the OP is a big advocate for a raw diet so I think that's where this topic comes from. I definitely know that cooking veggies and fruits does deprive them of some of their nutritional values, and I understand the benefits of a raw diet. There are "man-made" things that I love to eat however, and for me, I want to fit them into my diet. If I couldn't have wine, or some pasta, or pie.....well I just would not be a happy girl!

EllieB_5

I avoid sugar...Don't mean to oversimplify, just trying to make a point using sugar.

Sugar consumption has exponentially increased since the 1850's...the beginning of the steam engines and mechanized porocessing. It took off again after 1920's...the industrial revolution.

People do not instantaneously get fat upon the first bite of sugar, there is a delay. IMHO this is a pretty obvious correlation.



EDIT - forgot the make the IMGs lower case - again :grumble:

I wonder where they dug up the statistics from the 1700's.

You'd be surprised at the records they kept back then. I'm guessing this was reached by looking at records of sugar sales/production.

SapiensPisces

I avoid sugar...Don't mean to oversimplify, just trying to make a point using sugar.

Sugar consumption has exponentially increased since the 1850's...the beginning of the steam engines and mechanized porocessing. It took off again after 1920's...the industrial revolution.

People do not instantaneously get fat upon the first bite of sugar, there is a delay. IMHO this is a pretty obvious correlation.



EDIT - forgot the make the IMGs lower case - again :grumble:

Correlation =\= Causation...

Furthermore, we know that overconsumption causes weight gain, so this graphic is much more informative than the sugar-only one:



EDIT: image too big, here's the link: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ylOFVfLmVHI/T86VRFdznmI/AAAAAAAAA7s/adnL6fyohyE/s1600/Calorie+intake+and+obesity.JPG

Lives2Travel

Eat at a deficit and in a way that is sustainable for you. That's all you need to know to lose weight.

firstsip

I avoid sugar...Don't mean to oversimplify, just trying to make a point using sugar.

Sugar consumption has exponentially increased since the 1850's...the beginning of the steam engines and mechanized porocessing. It took off again after 1920's...the industrial revolution.

People do not instantaneously get fat upon the first bite of sugar, there is a delay. IMHO this is a pretty obvious correlation.



EDIT - forgot the make the IMGs lower case - again :grumble:

You know what they say about correlation :flowerforyou:

Edit: Damn... joffed.

eric_sg61

Correlation =\= Causation...

It does equal...........when someone has an agenda to push

snikkins

A quick Google search doesn't come up with any evidence at all that Einstein actually said that. Do you perhaps have a source that just didn't come up?

rml_16

This statement resonates with me: Not saying it's true, but.... I think we could also replace the word "cook" with the word "make".

“Humans are the only species smart enough to cook (my addition "make") their food but dumb enough to eat it.” – Einstein

I'm not hating here, just wondering if there's something to this when you consider the sky rocketing obesity rates in our country. Maybe it's less about "self control issues" vs. the food supply? I'm not stating, just asking...

"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet." --Abraham Lincoln

SapiensPisces

Maybe it's less about "self control issues" vs. the food supply?

Okay I'll bite (pun intended heh..)

I think there's something to both sides of this argument. For the most part, Americans are much more sedentary and overconsume much more than they have in the past, but the number of calories in the food supply itself is also much higher. I think the real problem is multifaceted. There's no one evil boogeyman, which is why obesity is such a difficult problem to tackle systemically.

jwdieter

Einstein was a good friend of mine, and he really liked my cooking.

Anyway, I think if you're going to eat man, raw and wriggling is the way to go.

Wetcoaster

Fixed...................

“Humans are the only species smart enough to cook (my addition "make") their food but dumb enough to eat it.” – Buddy

bigphatcat

I am disappointed....I read the title and assumed it was about cannibalism. *sigh*

Oh Well, back to my liver, fava beans and a nice chianti. Efuhfuhfuhfuh

Escloflowne

Oh, it's you again.