Eating much better and till ganing weight - HELP!?

ryvenna

My school has access to many journals but JAMA is very unfortunately not one of them. I didn't realize Rustug meant Lustig. Lustig is a quack.

What year are you, anyway? I'm trying to get into med school right now.

I'm a 4th year and I'm finding out where I matched for internal medicine residency in one week... definitely getting anxious/excited! :] I read parts of "fat chance" and liked it, but I will agree Lustig can sometimes be sensationalist.

Are you hoping to get accepted this current cycle? Is interview season already over?

PikaKnight

i'm currently traveling, which means that i AM deviating from my typical goal of consuming ~50 g of sugar or less per day and eating less than 200 g of carb. thanks for tryna make me feel like **** about it; i know i'm not perfect.

Realize no one can make you feel anything (minus physical pain) and no one here is trying to actually make you feel anything. That is all on you. Disagreeing with someone =/= putting them down.

ryvenna

i'm currently traveling, which means that i AM deviating from my typical goal of consuming ~50 g of sugar or less per day and eating less than 200 g of carb. thanks for tryna make me feel like **** about it; i know i'm not perfect.

Realize no one can make you feel anything (minus physical pain) and no one here is trying to actually make you feel anything. That is all on you. Disagreeing with someone =/= putting them down.

You're absolutely right. I still stand by my point that it was a below the belt move and part of the reason it stung stems from the fact that I am VERY much aware that t I've been indulging in lots of carbs and sugars lol ;D

in this instance, i'm a sign post pointing at the right direction, though i'm not getting there myself. it's like someone who tells you that if you have lots of unprotected sex (even if they themselves works as a pornstar), your propensity of acquiring HIV increases. that person's current behavior doesn't make their statement any less true.

jonnythan

My school has access to many journals but JAMA is very unfortunately not one of them. I didn't realize Rustug meant Lustig. Lustig is a quack.

What year are you, anyway? I'm trying to get into med school right now.

I'm a 4th year and I'm finding out where I matched for internal medicine residency in one week... definitely getting anxious/excited! :] I read parts of "fat chance" and liked it, but I will agree Lustig can sometimes be sensationalist.

Are you hoping to get accepted this current cycle? Is interview season already over?

God you must be going crazy. I can't imagine what match day is like. Yeah interview season is winding down. I got a couple interviews. Should get a decision soon. Good luck.

Achrya

i'm currently traveling, which means that i AM deviating from my typical goal of consuming ~50 g of sugar or less per day and eating less than 200 g of carb. thanks for tryna make me feel like **** about it; i know i'm not perfect.

Realize no one can make you feel anything (minus physical pain) and no one here is trying to actually make you feel anything. That is all on you. Disagreeing with someone =/= putting them down.

You're absolutely right. I still stand by my point that it was a below the belt move and part of the reason it stung stems from the fact that I am VERY much aware that t I've been indulging in lots of carbs and sugars lol ;D

in this instance, i'm a sign post pointing at the right direction, though i'm not getting there myself. it's like someone who tells you that if you have lots of unprotected sex (even if they themselves works as a pornstar), your propensity of acquiring HIV increases. that person's current behavior doesn't make their statement any less true.

Porn stars actually have a lower rate of HIV than the rest of the population, so a porn star lecturing on STDs and safe sex practices wouldn't be off the wall at all. They are much much more cautious than your average person and I'd probably rank their opinion of such things beyond that of your average person.

In that case their behavior makes their statement all the more worthwhile

#Themoreyouknow

ryvenna

My school has access to many journals but JAMA is very unfortunately not one of them. I didn't realize Rustug meant Lustig. Lustig is a quack.

What year are you, anyway? I'm trying to get into med school right now.

I'm a 4th year and I'm finding out where I matched for internal medicine residency in one week... definitely getting anxious/excited! :] I read parts of "fat chance" and liked it, but I will agree Lustig can sometimes be sensationalist.

Are you hoping to get accepted this current cycle? Is interview season already over?

God you must be going crazy. I can't imagine what match day is like. Yeah interview season is winding down. I got a couple interviews. Should get a decision soon. Good luck.

i'll be very happy with one of my top three... i have my fingers and toes crossed. good luck to you as well! feel free to pm any med school related questions, should any pop up.

Sarauk2sf

My school has access to many journals but JAMA is very unfortunately not one of them. I didn't realize Rustug meant Lustig. Lustig is a quack.

What year are you, anyway? I'm trying to get into med school right now.

The JAMA studies actually compares:

- low GI v low fat v low carb.

Protein was not constant between the LC and the two others so its not a very good comparison due to TEF.

Individuals in the study were obese and as such any conclusions cannot be drawn for other populations (who are less likely to have insulin sensitivity).


Conclusion:

"In conclusion, our study demonstrates that commonly consumed diets can affect metabolism and components of the metabolic syndrome in markedly different ways during weight-loss maintenance, independent of energy content. The low-fat diet produced changes in energy expenditure and serum leptin42- 44 that would predict weight regain. In addition, this conventionally recommended diet had unfavorable effects on most of the metabolic syndrome components studied herein. In contrast, the very low-carbohydrate diet had the most beneficial effects on energy expenditure and several metabolic syndrome components, but this restrictive regimen may increase cortisol excretion and CRP. The low–glycemic index diet appears to have qualitatively similar, although smaller, metabolic benefits to the very low-carbohydrate diet, possibly without the deleterious effects on physiological stress and chronic inflammation. These findings suggest that a strategy to reduce glycemic load rather than dietary fat may be advantageous for weight-loss maintenance and cardiovascular disease prevention. Ultimately, successful weight-loss maintenance will require behavioral and environmental interventions to facilitate long-term dietary adherence. But such interventions will be most effective if they promote a dietary pattern that ameliorates the adverse biological changes accompanying weight loss."

ryvenna

i'm currently traveling, which means that i AM deviating from my typical goal of consuming ~50 g of sugar or less per day and eating less than 200 g of carb. thanks for tryna make me feel like **** about it; i know i'm not perfect.

Realize no one can make you feel anything (minus physical pain) and no one here is trying to actually make you feel anything. That is all on you. Disagreeing with someone =/= putting them down.

You're absolutely right. I still stand by my point that it was a below the belt move and part of the reason it stung stems from the fact that I am VERY much aware that t I've been indulging in lots of carbs and sugars lol ;D

in this instance, i'm a sign post pointing at the right direction, though i'm not getting there myself. it's like someone who tells you that if you have lots of unprotected sex (even if they themselves works as a pornstar), your propensity of acquiring HIV increases. that person's current behavior doesn't make their statement any less true.

Porn stars actually have a lower rate of HIV than the rest of the population, so a porn star lecturing on STDs and safe sex practices wouldn't be off the wall at all. They are much much more cautious than your average person and I'd probably rank their opinion of such things beyond that of your average person.

In that case their behavior makes their statement all the more worthwhile

#Themoreyouknow

since reading about the duke pornstar scandal, i actually got really curious about safety conditions for sex workers and found out that safety continues to be a major concern in the industry d/t the decreased likelihood of condom use. yes, pornstars need to pay out of pocket for regular std testing and big scandals like the one in 2005 don't constantly pop up, but that doesn't change the fact that std rates are exceptionally high amongst pornstars. it's one of the reason that most porn actresses don't last more than 6 months in the industry.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/10/std-rates-in-la-porn-stars-higher-than-in-nevada-prostitutes.html

the more you know indeed.

Achrya

i'm currently traveling, which means that i AM deviating from my typical goal of consuming ~50 g of sugar or less per day and eating less than 200 g of carb. thanks for tryna make me feel like **** about it; i know i'm not perfect.

Realize no one can make you feel anything (minus physical pain) and no one here is trying to actually make you feel anything. That is all on you. Disagreeing with someone =/= putting them down.

You're absolutely right. I still stand by my point that it was a below the belt move and part of the reason it stung stems from the fact that I am VERY much aware that t I've been indulging in lots of carbs and sugars lol ;D

in this instance, i'm a sign post pointing at the right direction, though i'm not getting there myself. it's like someone who tells you that if you have lots of unprotected sex (even if they themselves works as a pornstar), your propensity of acquiring HIV increases. that person's current behavior doesn't make their statement any less true.

Porn stars actually have a lower rate of HIV than the rest of the population, so a porn star lecturing on STDs and safe sex practices wouldn't be off the wall at all. They are much much more cautious than your average person and I'd probably rank their opinion of such things beyond that of your average person.

In that case their behavior makes their statement all the more worthwhile

#Themoreyouknow

since reading about the duke pornstar scandal, i actually got really curious about safety conditions for sex workers and found out that safety continues to be a major concern in the industry d/t the decreased likelihood of condom use. yes, pornstars need to pay out of pocket for regular std testing and big scandals like the one in 2005 don't constantly pop up, but that doesn't change the fact that std rates are exceptionally high amongst pornstars. it's one of the reason that most porn actresses don't last more than 6 months in the industry.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/10/std-rates-in-la-porn-stars-higher-than-in-nevada-prostitutes.html

the more you know indeed.

I thought we were talking HIV, not STDs at large. That's kind a very large distinction.

Sarauk2sf

i'm currently traveling, which means that i AM deviating from my typical goal of consuming ~50 g of sugar or less per day and eating less than 200 g of carb. thanks for tryna make me feel like **** about it; i know i'm not perfect.

Realize no one can make you feel anything (minus physical pain) and no one here is trying to actually make you feel anything. That is all on you. Disagreeing with someone =/= putting them down.

You're absolutely right. I still stand by my point that it was a below the belt move and part of the reason it stung stems from the fact that I am VERY much aware that t I've been indulging in lots of carbs and sugars lol ;D

in this instance, i'm a sign post pointing at the right direction, though i'm not getting there myself. it's like someone who tells you that if you have lots of unprotected sex (even if they themselves works as a pornstar), your propensity of acquiring HIV increases. that person's current behavior doesn't make their statement any less true.

Below the belt? I asked you a question - simple as that. Your issue it stung. You ate some cookies...I eat them all the time. No biggie, and no need to make it out to be one.

Also, you do like being dramatic...because comparing being called out for eating cookies is exactly the same as being questioned about having a higher risk of contracting HIV due to your actions.

ryvenna

I thought we were talking HIV, not STDs at large. That's kind a very large distinction.

fair enough-- however, the means of infection are not different, so i wouldn't be surprised if higher rates of G&C correlate with HIV. i don't know for certain.

again, to the op: sorry for contributing to non-related posts on your thread! i promise that i'm done. feel free to pm me and/or to friend me for any additional support!

PikaKnight

i'm currently traveling, which means that i AM deviating from my typical goal of consuming ~50 g of sugar or less per day and eating less than 200 g of carb. thanks for tryna make me feel like **** about it; i know i'm not perfect.

Realize no one can make you feel anything (minus physical pain) and no one here is trying to actually make you feel anything. That is all on you. Disagreeing with someone =/= putting them down.

You're absolutely right. I still stand by my point that it was a below the belt move and part of the reason it stung stems from the fact that I am VERY much aware that t I've been indulging in lots of carbs and sugars lol ;D

in this instance, i'm a sign post pointing at the right direction, though i'm not getting there myself. it's like someone who tells you that if you have lots of unprotected sex (even if they themselves works as a pornstar), your propensity of acquiring HIV increases. that person's current behavior doesn't make their statement any less true.

Porn stars actually have a lower rate of HIV than the rest of the population, so a porn star lecturing on STDs and safe sex practices wouldn't be off the wall at all. They are much much more cautious than your average person and I'd probably rank their opinion of such things beyond that of your average person.

In that case their behavior makes their statement all the more worthwhile

#Themoreyouknow

since reading about the duke pornstar scandal, i actually got really curious about safety conditions for sex workers and found out that safety continues to be a major concern in the industry d/t the decreased likelihood of condom use. yes, pornstars need to pay out of pocket for regular std testing and big scandals like the one in 2005 don't constantly pop up, but that doesn't change the fact that std rates are exceptionally high amongst pornstars. it's one of the reason that most porn actresses don't last more than 6 months in the industry.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/10/std-rates-in-la-porn-stars-higher-than-in-nevada-prostitutes.html

the more you know indeed.

I thought we were talking HIV, not STDs at large. That's kind a very large distinction.

Agreed.

Achrya

I thought we were talking HIV, not STDs at large. That's kind a very large distinction.

fair enough-- however, the means of infection are not different, so i wouldn't be surprised if higher rates of G&C correlate with HIV. i don't know for certain.

again, to the op: sorry for contributing to non-related posts on your thread! i promise that i'm done. feel free to pm me and/or to friend me for any additional support!

Not to worry, the porn industry actually keeps very close track on that sort of thing and the data exists to be looked at. There have been less than 20 cases since the mid 80's, when AIM Medical was started up. Less than 20 people in nealy 25 years (AIM went under in 2012 if I recall.)

Not that it's all the relevant,, just found it amusing that you'd go for HIV (provable low rate in pornstars) and not just STDS (Crazy high rate) to try and prove your 'point'.


Note: I wrote a paper in college about the porn industry and their low HIV rate/how their methods of testing, openness, and emphasis on safety are a much better policy than anything taking place in the general population. I even talked to people in AIM's pr department. Good times.

magerum

So I'm not actually losing weight at about 1 pound a week rate at 3,000 calories a day of which 1200 is coming from cookies, ice cream, & chocolate. (While far exceeding micro & macro needs). Got it.

jofjltncb6

What's going on in here???

Springfield1970

Stating 'a calorie is a calorie' oversimplifies reality.

Different calorie sources cause varied release of insulin from the body. If you're eating 1200 calories from carbs, 300 calories from protein, 300 calories from fat, you're consuming an 1800 calorie diet to which your body responds differently from consuming 600 calories from carbs, 600 calories from protein, and 600 calories from fat. over time, the carb heavy diet will predispose you to insulin resistance (aka --> greater insulin secretion). keep in mind that a hormone like insulin is a growth factor implicated with greater fat retention AND resistance to insulin plays a pivotal role in the pathophysiology of type 2 diabetes. there are interesting studies out regarding this... please feel free to pubmed ;]

also, whenever you see calorie estimates on food labels... those labels have to be within 20% +/- off the mark. for panera to market a sandwich as 400 calories means that the food can actually be 320 calories or 480 calories. if you eat foods that consist of healthier prep/ingredients, you're making a safer bet... also! whenever you eat fibrous foods like nuts, though it may be labeled as 180 cal for 1 oz of almonds, it's more likely that your body is absorbing less than the 180 cal.

You need to read some sports nutrition books. It looks like you do a lot of sports, and you might be surprised how much your body responds and thrives on carbs, and how a good dose of insulin release paves the way for muscle building.

kdeaux1959

Congrats on the positive changes you have made. When you eat really has nothing to do with it... Whatever works best for you.

I would suggest that you increase your activity level... Walk, run, play tennis, ride bikes, shoot basketball, lift weights... do something regularly that you enjoy doing. Cut back a little more and you should start seeing the results you desire.

LKArgh

Regardless I a have gone from 4000-5000 calories a day (maybe more) to more like 2000-2500 -- that should result in weight loss. It's a calorie deficit - a big one.

A calorie deficit is when you eat less than you burn, not less that you used to. If you were eating 2000 extra calories per day, you were gaining e.g. 3 pounds per week (out of the top of my head, not accurate number). If you now eat only 200 extra calories per day, you will still gain but only 0.2 pounds per week. You need to be sure of what you are eating, and then make sure this is below what you are burning, not other way to lose weight.

Quasita

If you want to get serious, and you eat out all the time, YUP, you bring a scale.

I *am* that person in line for food day that reads the serving size on the chips before counting out 12 or however many it is.

Pad Thai, for example, is notoriously high in calories. If you really had that and 3 crab rangoon, you were probably close to 2k in that one sitting alone.

I'm not here to judge but since you're asking, if you really want to take this seriously, you find a way to better manage your eating. If you must eat out, you get it portioned... Share the plate, or have them box half of it or more before you even touch it. Drink water, get more potassium to work out the high levels of sodium.

Frankly, if you go to the doctor, odds are they will say there is nothing wrong with your thyroid. Of course, I'm basing this on your photo. You're definitely not hyperthyroidic (that means it's overactive) but you don't appear to be hypothyroidic either.

People like to say when and what you eat doesn't matter, and for the average person, it doesn't. However, if there is an underlying medical condition, these things can matter quite a bit.
That being said, I would wait on the doctor until you've made a more concerted effort to eat foods that you have control over, or at least make lower calorie choices when eating out. The things I've seen all make up significant portions of your claimed "2000-2500" a day intake.

sjohnny

What's going on in here???

I don't know but I heard there was porn.