A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE
Joanne_Moniz
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This is not something that some people don't like to hear and we are hearing it again and again. For the large percentage of people who do like to hear it, here it is from HARVARD HEALTH.
LESS ABOUT QUANTITY... more about quality.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/best-diet-quality-counts/
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity
LESS ABOUT QUANTITY... more about quality.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/best-diet-quality-counts/
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity
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Why start another thread? Why not just join the 20 other threads having a pointless argument?0
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Yay!!! It's Friday!!! Time to play with my trol.... I mean dolls.....0
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Did you read your article?
"Researchers did not discount the importance of calories, instead suggesting that choosing high-quality foods (and decreasing consumption of lower-quality foods) is an important factor in helping individuals consume fewer calories. (23)"0 -
So in for this one...so lets get going
did you read the article...this is in the first lines...
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The strongest evidence to date shows that calories matter, but focusing on food quality is an equally important part of preventing weight gain and promoting weight loss.
•Focus on eating high-quality foods[] in appropriately sized portions.[/b]
and then the 2nd paragraphs“A calorie is a calorie” is an oft-repeated dietary slogan, and not overeating is indeed an important health measure. Rather than focusing on calories alone, however, emerging research shows that quality is also key in determining what we should eat and what we should avoid in order to achieve and maintain a healthy weight. Rather than choosing foods based only on caloric value, think instead about choosing high-quality, healthy foods, and minimizing low-quality foods.
And then•Researchers did not discount the importance of calories, instead suggesting that choosing high-quality foods (and decreasing consumption of lower-quality foods) is an important factor in helping individuals consume fewer calories
and last but not leastThe results from these three studies suggest that there may be some benefits to a macronutrient-based dietary approach, but research also shows that while a particular diet may result in weight loss for one person, it may not be effective for another person due to individual differences in genes and lifestyle. For those seeking the “perfect” one-size-fits-all diet, then, there isn’t one! The great news is that everyone can follow The Healthy Eating Plate guidelines and choose healthy, flavorful foods to create a diet that works best for you.
Thanks Joanne for once again proving calories do matter for weight loss and that macros are important for health...
I know that wasn't the intent but eh it works...0 -
I think you ought to read the articles you link, The very opening pinned bullets reads:
* Dietary guidelines have changed over the years as research becomes more accurate in determining what we should eat to attain optimal health and weight. The strongest evidence to date shows that calories matter, but focusing on food quality is an equally important part of preventing weight gain and promoting weight loss.
* Focus on eating high-quality foods in appropriately sized portions.
and this:
“ A calorie is a calorie” is an oft-repeated dietary slogan, and not overeating is indeed an important health measure. Rather than focusing on calories alone, however, emerging research shows that quality is also key in determining what we should eat and what we should avoid in order to achieve and maintain a healthy weight. Rather than choosing foods based only on caloric value, think instead about choosing high-quality, healthy foods, and minimizing low-quality foods.
Just quoting this again: The strongest evidence shows that "CALORIES MATTER", and I don't think you will find to many other successful people on this site that won't disagree that Macro's are important in the overall equation for optimal success.
Nice try though...... Best of Luck0 -
My DUCATI is not a DUCATI0
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Why do people keep making this same thread instead of just doing a search? Of course no one wants to hear it. We've heard it a zillion times already.0
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Why do people keep making this same thread instead of just doing a search? Of course no one wants to hear it. We've heard it a zillion times already.
Because they believe that their way is the only way.
You have to understand this OP believes that sugar is the devil and you should eliminate all sugars from your diet along with any prepackaged processed foods.
Someone who "believes" that the only way to lose weight is to eat "whole" foods, "clean" foods...
And will argue over and over again to prove her point...
A right fighter...
who isn't right she just hasn't realized it yet.
If she lost weight her way great but that doesn't mean all others "have" to follow her path...and most wont...some may fall into it for a bit but then they realize they don't have to "punish" themselves and give up foods they love.
ETA: I liken it to a form of self punishment...giving up foods you love as some sort of punishment for gaining weight...not on a conscious level but more of a subconscious thing...0 -
For weight loss: calories in < calories out
For body composition: get enough protein and lift heavy
For overall health: get enough micronutrients
For your sanity: don't eliminate a whole group of foods for no medical reason0 -
I just don't understand these threads.
A calorie is the amount of heat needed to raise the temperature of 1 kg of water 1° C.0 -
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OP has previously advised noobs on here NOT to count calories because "calorie counting doesn't work".
i thought that was rather curious advice to give someone on a calorie counting website. :huh:0 -
Money is not Money. It's how you spend it that counts . . .0
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Why do people keep making this same thread instead of just doing a search? Of course no one wants to hear it. We've heard it a zillion times already.
Because they believe that their way is the only way.
You have to understand this OP believes that sugar is the devil and you should eliminate all sugars from your diet along with any prepackaged processed foods.
Someone who "believes" that the only way to lose weight is to eat "whole" foods, "clean" foods...
And will argue over and over again to prove her point...
A right fighter...
who isn't right she just hasn't realized it yet.
If she lost weight her way great but that doesn't mean all others "have" to follow her path...and most wont...some may fall into it for a bit but then they realize they don't have to "punish" themselves and give up foods they love.
ETA: I liken it to a form of self punishment...giving up foods you love as some sort of punishment for gaining weight...not on a conscious level but more of a subconscious thing...
Every time someone asks me to share "my secret" on how I am losing weight when they still see me eating pizza, burgers or the occasional dessert, they refuse to accept my answer and proceed to follow a series of frustrating fad diets. To each his or her own, but why ask me in the first place? I know what you mean.0 -
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I just don't understand these threads.
A calorie is the amount of heat needed to raise the temperature of 1 kg of water 1° C.
Yeah, in this universe. But in the Zog universe, physics might be different. Pressures could change like the sun rises in our little section of this universe. And then the calorie could indeed vary. And I did that with only minimal mind-altering drugs. Yeah, me!0 -
Why do people keep making this same thread instead of just doing a search? Of course no one wants to hear it. We've heard it a zillion times already.
Because they believe that their way is the only way.
You have to understand this OP believes that sugar is the devil and you should eliminate all sugars from your diet along with any prepackaged processed foods.
Someone who "believes" that the only way to lose weight is to eat "whole" foods, "clean" foods...
And will argue over and over again to prove her point...
A right fighter...
who isn't right she just hasn't realized it yet.
If she lost weight her way great but that doesn't mean all others "have" to follow her path...and most wont...some may fall into it for a bit but then they realize they don't have to "punish" themselves and give up foods they love.
ETA: I liken it to a form of self punishment...giving up foods you love as some sort of punishment for gaining weight...not on a conscious level but more of a subconscious thing...
it's zealotry.0 -
Why do people keep making this same thread instead of just doing a search? Of course no one wants to hear it. We've heard it a zillion times already.
Because they believe that their way is the only way.
You have to understand this OP believes that sugar is the devil and you should eliminate all sugars from your diet along with any prepackaged processed foods.
Someone who "believes" that the only way to lose weight is to eat "whole" foods, "clean" foods...
And will argue over and over again to prove her point...
A right fighter...
who isn't right she just hasn't realized it yet.
If she lost weight her way great but that doesn't mean all others "have" to follow her path...and most wont...some may fall into it for a bit but then they realize they don't have to "punish" themselves and give up foods they love.
ETA: I liken it to a form of self punishment...giving up foods you love as some sort of punishment for gaining weight...not on a conscious level but more of a subconscious thing...
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This is not something that some people don't like to hear and we are hearing it again and again. For the large percentage of people who do like to hear it, here it is from HARVARD HEALTH.
LESS ABOUT QUANTITY... more about quality.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/best-diet-quality-counts/
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity
The message everyone must take is weight loss and good nutrition is LESS about quantity and MORE about quality. I'm sure everyone with common sense gets it. It is just a matter of implementing it ... it's difficult because of all the junk that has been snuck into our foods... But we will get there.
I am so happy that the word is coming out about this. It's about time.0 -
This is not something that some people don't like to hear and we are hearing it again and again. For the large percentage of people who do like to hear it, here it is from HARVARD HEALTH.
LESS ABOUT QUANTITY... more about quality.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/best-diet-quality-counts/
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity
The message everyone must take is weight loss and good nutrition is LESS about quantity and MORE about quality. I'm sure everyone with common sense gets it. It is just a matter of implementing it ... it's difficult because of all the junk that has been snuck into our foods... But we will get there.
I am so happy that the word is coming out about this. It's about time.
What is this "junk" you speak of?
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This is not something that some people don't like to hear and we are hearing it again and again. For the large percentage of people who do like to hear it, here it is from HARVARD HEALTH.
LESS ABOUT QUANTITY... more about quality.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/best-diet-quality-counts/
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity
The message everyone must take is weight loss and good nutrition is LESS about quantity and MORE about quality. I'm sure everyone with common sense gets it. It is just a matter of implementing it ... it's difficult because of all the junk that has been snuck into our foods... But we will get there.
I am so happy that the word is coming out about this. It's about time.
Of course calories matter...We cannot sit down and eat and eat and eat. Most people get that. ... It kind of goes without saying... But it is the QUALITY of calories because a calorie is NOT a calorie any more.0 -
How is it less about quantity? If you eat 3500 calories of healthy food, you'll still gain weight. Just like how I could be here eating chocolate, staying in a calorie deficit, and be losing weight.0
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So in for this one...so lets get going
did you read the article...this is in the first lines...
<snip>
The strongest evidence to date shows that calories matter, but focusing on food quality is an equally important part of preventing weight gain and promoting weight loss.
•Focus on eating high-quality foods[] in appropriately sized portions.[/b]
and then the 2nd paragraphs“A calorie is a calorie” is an oft-repeated dietary slogan, and not overeating is indeed an important health measure. Rather than focusing on calories alone, however, emerging research shows that quality is also key in determining what we should eat and what we should avoid in order to achieve and maintain a healthy weight. Rather than choosing foods based only on caloric value, think instead about choosing high-quality, healthy foods, and minimizing low-quality foods.
And then•Researchers did not discount the importance of calories, instead suggesting that choosing high-quality foods (and decreasing consumption of lower-quality foods) is an important factor in helping individuals consume fewer calories
and last but not leastThe results from these three studies suggest that there may be some benefits to a macronutrient-based dietary approach, but research also shows that while a particular diet may result in weight loss for one person, it may not be effective for another person due to individual differences in genes and lifestyle. For those seeking the “perfect” one-size-fits-all diet, then, there isn’t one! The great news is that everyone can follow The Healthy Eating Plate guidelines and choose healthy, flavorful foods to create a diet that works best for you.
Thanks Joanne for once again proving calories do matter for weight loss and that macros are important for health...
I know that wasn't the intent but eh it works...
great, now she is going to fall back on sugar fear mongering...0 -
oh and in….because I want to see where this thread goes in about two hours….0
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This is not something that some people don't like to hear and we are hearing it again and again. For the large percentage of people who do like to hear it, here it is from HARVARD HEALTH.
LESS ABOUT QUANTITY... more about quality.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/best-diet-quality-counts/
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity
The message everyone must take is weight loss and good nutrition is LESS about quantity and MORE about quality. I'm sure everyone with common sense gets it. It is just a matter of implementing it ... it's difficult because of all the junk that has been snuck into our foods... But we will get there.
I am so happy that the word is coming out about this. It's about time.
Of course calories matter...We cannot sit down and eat and eat and eat. Most people get that. ... It kind of goes without saying... But it is the QUALITY of calories because a calorie is NOT a calorie any more.
Well if you're going to have a conversation with yourself...I'm just going to leave....
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OMG, she fixed her pic.0
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Why do people keep making this same thread instead of just doing a search? Of course no one wants to hear it. We've heard it a zillion times already.
zealotry knows no boundaries….0 -
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