Dairy Queen Blizzards

QueenBishOTUniverse

Well fat and sugar have high calories. That said, I usually go for the Hawaiian Blizzard.

What's a Hawaiian Blizzard? Ham and Pineapple?

:sick:

Ok, I may love this on my pizza, but in a Blizzard, that's just WRONG.

ahamm002

Why don't you save your comments for a subject you know something about?

Sadly, addiction is something I know all too well.

Then why would you put down somebody else for having the problem?

I'm not putting anyone down. I only said that claiming DQ Blizzards are "addictive" is inaccurate. Being honest about facts is in NO WAY a "put down" of any person.

If you think you are addicted to DQ Blizzards, tell me what the withdrawal syndrome is. What are your symptoms when you go without a Blizzard? Do your hands shake? Do your shoulders heave involuntarily? Do you get headaches? Sleepy? Suicidal thoughts? Do your dopamine and serotonin levels crash? Do you feel angry just because someone said hello to you?

What are your symptoms that tell you that you're suffering from Blizzard withdrawal?




ETA: Fixed the quotes...PLEASE put your comments at the bottom, not the top. Top-quoting makes it very difficult to follow the conversation.

Withdrawal is a very small aspect of addiction. Otherwise curing addiction would be a piece of cake, just put the addict through detox.

Withdrawal syndrome is the definition of addiction. If there is no withdrawal syndrome, there is no addiction. Like the OP, you are probably confusing addiction with compulsive behavior.

behavioral disorder =/= addiction

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but withdrawal is not necessary to meet criteria for the definition of addiction. Physical withdrawal syndromes are distinct entities from addiction. Furthermore behavioral disorders and addiction are both large spectrums, with plenty of grey area in between them.

What difference does it make if someone who lost their house and life savings to gambling had an addiction versus a behavior disorder versus a dependence versus etc etc etc?

sloth3toes

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but withdrawal is not necessary to meet criteria for the definition of addiction. Physical withdrawal syndromes are distinct entities from addiction. Furthermore behavioral disorders and addiction are both large spectrums, with plenty of grey area in between them.

What difference does it make if someone who lost their house and life savings to gambling had an addiction versus a behavior disorder versus a dependence versus etc etc etc?

Semantics.

WendyTerry420

In...

...to learn more about 12-step Blizzard programs coming soon to a community center near me.



ETA: Oh, and Turtle Pecan Cluster or GTFO.

I'm sure there's a 12 step program for it. There's a 12 step program for anything these days, right?

From wikipedia:
admitting that one cannot control one's addiction or compulsion;
recognizing a higher power that can give strength;
examining past errors with the help of a sponsor (experienced member);
making amends for these errors;
learning to live a new life with a new code of behavior;
helping others who suffer from the same addictions or compulsions.

So, yeah, it's not just for addictions anymore. The more you know... :laugh:

I'm thinking that Beachbody could branch out into this area.

I am the OP. I never intended to get into a discussion on addiction. I was merely bummed out that there were so many calories in a Blizzard!

That's the beauty of MFP. Any thread that can become an argument over sugar addiction. And most do.

WendyTerry420

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but withdrawal is not necessary to meet criteria for the definition of addiction. Physical withdrawal syndromes are distinct entities from addiction. Furthermore behavioral disorders and addiction are both large spectrums, with plenty of grey area in between them.

What difference does it make if someone who lost their house and life savings to gambling had an addiction versus a behavior disorder versus a dependence versus etc etc etc?

Semantics.

physical =/= psychological

semantics =/= medical definitions

:bigsmile:

WendyTerry420

Why don't you save your comments for a subject you know something about?

Sadly, addiction is something I know all too well.

Then why would you put down somebody else for having the problem?

I'm not putting anyone down. I only said that claiming DQ Blizzards are "addictive" is inaccurate. Being honest about facts is in NO WAY a "put down" of any person.

If you think you are addicted to DQ Blizzards, tell me what the withdrawal syndrome is. What are your symptoms when you go without a Blizzard? Do your hands shake? Do your shoulders heave involuntarily? Do you get headaches? Sleepy? Suicidal thoughts? Do your dopamine and serotonin levels crash? Do you feel angry just because someone said hello to you?

What are your symptoms that tell you that you're suffering from Blizzard withdrawal?




ETA: Fixed the quotes...PLEASE put your comments at the bottom, not the top. Top-quoting makes it very difficult to follow the conversation.

Withdrawal is a very small aspect of addiction. Otherwise curing addiction would be a piece of cake, just put the addict through detox.

Withdrawal syndrome is the definition of addiction. If there is no withdrawal syndrome, there is no addiction. Like the OP, you are probably confusing addiction with compulsive behavior.

behavioral disorder =/= addiction

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but withdrawal is not necessary to meet criteria for the definition of addiction. Physical withdrawal syndromes are distinct entities from addiction. Furthermore behavioral disorders and addiction are both large spectrums, with plenty of grey area in between them.

What difference does it make if someone who lost their house and life savings to gambling had an addiction versus a behavior disorder versus a dependence versus etc etc etc?

It's easy for me to understand the difference because I have dealt with both. Maybe that's what gives me a unique perspective? But for an actual addiction, it means that your body is physically dependent on a substance. You can have a psychological compulsion to any number of things (eating, drinking, gambling, shopping, shoplifting, sex, telling lies, playing video games, running, pornography, ad infinitum) Your compulsive behavior may end up causing other problems for you, for your family, etc.

I am addicted to nicotine, and it causes me no financial problems because nicotine is relatively inexpensive. For me, I buy tobacco by the pound and roll my own cigarettes. That saves me a fortune. A person could potentially detox and get over their addiction without any financial problems. For example, my husband was addicted to Demerol, legitimately prescribed by his doctor. He ended up detoxing from it, and to this day, he avoids opiates of any kind. It didn't cost him financially because insurance paid for everything.

No one has made any claim that somehow addiction is "worse" than a disorder. That's not what the debate is even about. It's about using accurate terms. In some ways, for some people, disordered behavior can be much more difficult to overcome than an addiction. This isn't (or shouldn't be) about which is better or worse. It's a simple matter of correctly identifying something.

psychology =/= medical science


The only point is that they are different. And having suffered from both I can keenly be aware of the differences. For me, breaking compulsive behavior was a matter of six months without drinking or using any stimulants, as well as counseling to understand the root causes of my behavior. My addiction still stands. (I have, for the time being, given up on trying to quit. I may try again later. *shrugs*) Others might be the reverse. They may quit using addictive substances through one detox and some will power. But then may still suffer from a compulsion that they can't seem to quit. How people deal with it, and the root causes behind it, will vary from person to person but the distinction between the two is very real and shouldn't be ignored.

RozayJones

Maybe someone mentioned this.....but I just seen they are now offering blizzards in a waffle cone - holy heaven sounds amazing and made me rather pissed LOL

jofjltncb6

In...

...to learn more about 12-step Blizzard programs coming soon to a community center near me.



ETA: Oh, and Turtle Pecan Cluster or GTFO.

the turtle pecan cluster mini Blizzard will be mine tonight, thanks to your post. This addiction discussion is not so inspiring.

At least something useful came of this thread.

Glad I could help.

jofjltncb6

They are delish but ridicolously fattening thats why i try to make them with any other store bought low fat yogurt based ice cream

The only thing "fattening" about any one food is when you it's part of exceeding your TDEE in all foods consumed. 600 calories of Blizzard is no more fattening than 600 calories of...uh...low fat yogurt based ice cream (whatever that is).

jofjltncb6

Maybe someone mentioned this.....but I just seen they are now offering blizzards in a waffle cone - holy heaven sounds amazing and made me rather pissed LOL

Why pissed? Because you've been eating them in boring cups all this time when you could have them in a waffle cone instead? Yeah, I can see where that would make you pissed. Personally, I've never been much of a cone person...but a waffle cone does sound potentially awesome. Maybe I'll try that the next time I'm getting my DQ fix.

asdowe13

Just so you know

McDonalds offers a Cadbury Cream Egg McFlurry in Canada and UK. I don't think the USA does though!


Oh so effing good

arabianhorselover

Why don't you save your comments for a subject you know something about?

Sadly, addiction is something I know all too well.

Then why would you put down somebody else for having the problem?

I'm not putting anyone down. I only said that claiming DQ Blizzards are "addictive" is inaccurate. Being honest about facts is in NO WAY a "put down" of any person.

If you think you are addicted to DQ Blizzards, tell me what the withdrawal syndrome is. What are your symptoms when you go without a Blizzard? Do your hands shake? Do your shoulders heave involuntarily? Do you get headaches? Sleepy? Suicidal thoughts? Do your dopamine and serotonin levels crash? Do you feel angry just because someone said hello to you?

What are your symptoms that tell you that you're suffering from Blizzard withdrawal?




ETA: Fixed the quotes...PLEASE put your comments at the bottom, not the top. Top-quoting makes it very difficult to follow the conversation.

Withdrawal is a very small aspect of addiction. Otherwise curing addiction would be a piece of cake, just put the addict through detox.

Withdrawal syndrome is the definition of addiction. If there is no withdrawal syndrome, there is no addiction. Like the OP, you are probably confusing addiction with compulsive behavior.

behavioral disorder =/= addiction

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but withdrawal is not necessary to meet criteria for the definition of addiction. Physical withdrawal syndromes are distinct entities from addiction. Furthermore behavioral disorders and addiction are both large spectrums, with plenty of grey area in between them.

What difference does it make if someone who lost their house and life savings to gambling had an addiction versus a behavior disorder versus a dependence versus etc etc etc?

I really think the definition of addiction is anything that a person continues to do despite the negative consequences in their life.

RozayJones

Maybe someone mentioned this.....but I just seen they are now offering blizzards in a waffle cone - holy heaven sounds amazing and made me rather pissed LOL

Why pissed? Because you've been eating them in boring cups all this time when you could have them in a waffle cone instead? Yeah, I can see where that would make you pissed. Personally, I've never been much of a cone person...but a waffle cone does sound potentially awesome. Maybe I'll try that the next time I'm getting my DQ fix.

That is exactly why - When I was small and could eat all I want I spent half of my summer at DQ and never once did this cross my mind I even worked at DG and made anything I wanted....and NOW they come up with this! :huh:

redversustheblue

Maybe someone mentioned this.....but I just seen they are now offering blizzards in a waffle cone - holy heaven sounds amazing and made me rather pissed LOL

Yes, I saw that commercial on tv last night and it looked downright amazing.