Vegetarians found more unhealthy. Interesting article.

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  • peleroja
    peleroja Posts: 3,979 Member
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    Well, it's certainly not difficult to have more trouble getting the appropriate nutrients when you cut stuff out of your diet, so I'm not very surprised. Vegetarians have to work harder at balanced meals, and there are tons of vegetarians who seem to subsist on fries and white bread (especially young ones and those who are vegetarian for ethical reasons rather than health ones.) There's also a pretty substantial number of people with eating disorders who become "vegetarian" so it's easier to restrict food in public.

    Ideally, everyone should be paying attention to their macro and micro nutrient intake and getting everything their bodies need, but vegetarians and other people who restrict their diets (paleo etc) need to be extra careful, obviously.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
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    I was aware of the mental illness being more prevalent due to most vegetarians eating very low fat in general which causes chemical imbalances in the brain.

    Interesting findings on the rest of the stuff.

    I will stick with eating my meat, vegetables and fruit.
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
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    Vegetarians tend to eat a lot of dairy. That stuff is terrible. Even the paleo crowd figured out to avoid it like the plague.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
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    Well, it's certainly not difficult to have more trouble getting the appropriate nutrients when you cut stuff out of your diet, so I'm not very surprised. Vegetarians have to work harder at balanced meals, and there are tons of vegetarians who seem to subsist on fries and white bread (especially young ones and those who are vegetarian for ethical reasons rather than health ones.) There's also a pretty substantial number of people with eating disorders who become "vegetarian" so it's easier to restrict food in public.

    Ideally, everyone should be paying attention to their macro and micro nutrient intake and getting everything their bodies need, but vegetarians and other people who restrict their diets (paleo etc) need to be extra careful, obviously.

    No need to throw paleo in with that. When you are eating an abundance of protein, fats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and seeds it is not hard at all to meet both your micronutrient and macronutrient needs.

    One main reason my Doctor recommends the Paleo Lifestyle to his patients to get them off medications and just eating real food.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    IN...
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
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    Science FTW
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  • navyrigger46
    navyrigger46 Posts: 1,301 Member
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    In, this one should go nuclear pretty quickly.

    Rigger
  • salembambi
    salembambi Posts: 5,592 Member
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    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm was vegetarian for 15 years and vegan almost 3 now

    got all the blood work done to make sure I was getting all my needs when I went vegan & doctor said I was perfect

    ahh yea so perfect
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
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    Woo hoo confirmation bias article for the carnivores!
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
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    :huh:
  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
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    I've been a vegetarian all my life. I used to be fat and miserable because all I ate was cheese, bread, pasta, and ice cream. It's easy to be unhealthy as a vegetarian. Now my diet is full of fruits and veggies and I'm obviously in much better shape!
  • kayla_who
    kayla_who Posts: 540 Member
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    1. There are pros and cons to every diet. Choose your evils

    2. This is one study, need more info
  • RunBakeLove
    RunBakeLove Posts: 101 Member
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    As a former vegetarian (and still light on the meat these days!), this is very interesting. Thank you for posting!

    I can echo a lot of the comments made in this thread. It is incredibly hard to reach all your nutrients on a vegetarian diet. Not impossible but you have to pay SO MUCH MORE attention to it. I didn't cut out fat and the only thing that didn't make me a vegan was cheese so I can't agree with the overload in dairy comment. I've hated cow's milk since I was little. I made 98% of my food from scratch while being a vegetarian and lived what I thought to be a healthy lifestyle for a few years but it was hard to keep up with that kind of precision.

    I still have several days a week that I eat as a vegetarian would. I eat a lot of fish and meat 1-2 times a week maybe. It isn't something I have "strived" to do, it is just naturally how I eat and what I crave. Not surprisingly, when I travel and have to eat out, my meat intake increases significantly. I think Micheal Pollan said it best...Eat food, not too much, mostly plants.

    I do find it weird that the article referred to vegetarianism as a "fad"...I don't think it classifies as a fad. I know people who have been vegetarian for 20, 30 years.
  • peleroja
    peleroja Posts: 3,979 Member
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    Well, it's certainly not difficult to have more trouble getting the appropriate nutrients when you cut stuff out of your diet, so I'm not very surprised. Vegetarians have to work harder at balanced meals, and there are tons of vegetarians who seem to subsist on fries and white bread (especially young ones and those who are vegetarian for ethical reasons rather than health ones.) There's also a pretty substantial number of people with eating disorders who become "vegetarian" so it's easier to restrict food in public.

    Ideally, everyone should be paying attention to their macro and micro nutrient intake and getting everything their bodies need, but vegetarians and other people who restrict their diets (paleo etc) need to be extra careful, obviously.

    No need to throw paleo in with that. When you are eating an abundance of protein, fats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and seeds it is not hard at all to meet both your micronutrient and macronutrient needs.

    One main reason my Doctor recommends the Paleo Lifestyle to his patients to get them off medications and just eating real food.

    I should have known I'd get the paleo police on my case here...they're like Betelgeuse except you only have to say the word once for them to appear.

    Yes, whole foods are good. Restricting your diet from a huge number of foods can be bad if you're not careful.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
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    In. *munching on popcorn*
  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
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    You can be unhealthy and overweight no matter what you eat or don't eat. There are plenty of junk food options for vegetarians, vegans, and omnivores alike.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
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    I was a vegetarian for 18 years (I now eat seafood) and it's really not hard to eat a healthy, well balanced diet without meat.
  • Dewymorning
    Dewymorning Posts: 762 Member
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    People may have adopted a vegetarian lifestyle if they were already unhealthy, for example.

    This sentence popped out at me.

    Correlation does not equal causation, though I do think this is an interesting study.

    Also, I agree with a previous post that it is harder work to be healthy and vegetarian, and so some vegetarians could be missing out on important nutrients without realizing it.
  • lavaughan69
    lavaughan69 Posts: 459 Member
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  • ahamm002
    ahamm002 Posts: 1,690 Member
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    I thought it was interesting that vegetarians tended to be thinner on average than omnivores, yet still had poorer overall health. Of course the study is just an epidemiology study. There are too many possible confounders to really draw any conclusions other than "more studies are needed."