Sugar Detox
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To all the people who mocked my earlier post. It must be so nice to be able to eat things in 'moderation' and mock others for not being able to control their diets. As someone else earlier said, I can't just have a piece of cake, I have to eat the whole thing. I can't just eat one penguin biscuit, I have to have the entire pack. In one day, I ate an entire packet of maryland cookies, an entire packet of cadbury's fingers, and an entire family sized profiterole gateau.
The only way I can stop binging on sugar, is to just cut it out. As soon as I have a tiny piece of chocolate, or a boiled sweet, then I just want to eat the entire thing. I've tried moderation, and in the past 2 months I've put on 16lbs. Thank you for your mockery.
I am the same way. I have found the only thing that really works for me (to lose weight and lose the cravings) is a low carb (also a low sugar) diet. Even fruits can send me spiraling into a full out binge.
I'm an "all or nothing" kind of person/body type. We are all different and what works for one may not work for another. I'm kind of shocked to see all the bashers on this particular thread. Some of us just can't have certain things - period. For me, sugar is definately one of them too.
Right now, I'm trying to have a fruit here and there to just see how it goes, but if I continue to have cravings, I will cut them off.
Sorry you felt mocked for your comments - I did find alot of the comments pretty disrespectful to not only the original poster, but those of us who truly have to stay away from sugar (carbs, fruit, processed).
So you eat zero carb? If you have anything with sugar, you binge on it, like eggs for example?
I eat a high protein/low carb diet. 25-50 carbs max and I try to get that from veggies, excluding starchy veggies. When I follow this plan, the weight consistently comes off and will stay off. I don't eat potatoes, rice, peas, or anything that has over a few carbs each serving. I can't allow myself to have a "cheat" day -- this leads to several months of binging. This is why I stay away from most fruits. I have tried to eat fruits - but it does send me veering off course and the cravings become overwhelming - like a druggie needs a drug or an alcholic needs a beer. I am trying to incorporate some fruit - like berries - here and there, but in the past have not been successful when doing that.
I eat eggs almost every day (but don't eat too much of the yolk because they dont digest well) and most fish/seafood and meats. I am not a big dairy person either so occassionally I will eat a cheese stick but even cheese is a trigger food. After the initial 'detox' period, I completely lose cravings and urges to binge when cutting most carbs/sugar out of my diet.
Honestly, to most people, they probaby can't understand this and will argue that anyone can eat anything in moderation - but to a true food addict, I disagree. My mother was an alcoholic and died from that at 49; my father was a compulsive overeater and morbidly obese - he too died at the age of 49. Research has shown over and over that there is a genetic component to alcoholism and just like an alcoholic, I have the same struggles with foods - particularlly carbs/sugars. I don't think this is a coincidence - I think this is a metabolic disorder. When I'm following a low carb diet, I don't crave chips or breads or starchy things. I also don't binge on meats or veggies nor are there any cravings to like eat 3 pieces of steak or chicken! But the moment I start eating more carbs (sugar), all those urges and cravings come back and derail my progress/health.
so by "all or nothing" with sugars you didn't actually mean that, gotcha
"I'm an "all or nothing" kind of person/body type. We are all different and what works for one may not work for another. I'm kind of shocked to see all the bashers on this particular thread. Some of us just can't have certain things - period. For me, sugar is definately one of them too. "0 -
And when the original poster said "sugar detox" -- to me "sugar" is carbohydrates. They are one in the same.
My 23 year old son has been an insulin dependent diabetic since he was 12 months old. And in working with the best endocrinologists in the country through the Children's hospital - we have always been told - "a carb is a carb is a carb" and breaks down into sugar.
So yeah - eating a piece of fruit may offer more health benefits than chowing down on a snickers bar, but during digestion, the 'carb' breaks down into sugar.
So to me hearing "sugar detox" is the same as me saying I"m detoxing from carbs or processed foods. To me, they are one in the same.0 -
To all the people who mocked my earlier post. It must be so nice to be able to eat things in 'moderation' and mock others for not being able to control their diets. As someone else earlier said, I can't just have a piece of cake, I have to eat the whole thing. I can't just eat one penguin biscuit, I have to have the entire pack. In one day, I ate an entire packet of maryland cookies, an entire packet of cadbury's fingers, and an entire family sized profiterole gateau.
The only way I can stop binging on sugar, is to just cut it out. As soon as I have a tiny piece of chocolate, or a boiled sweet, then I just want to eat the entire thing. I've tried moderation, and in the past 2 months I've put on 16lbs. Thank you for your mockery.
I am the same way. I have found the only thing that really works for me (to lose weight and lose the cravings) is a low carb (also a low sugar) diet. Even fruits can send me spiraling into a full out binge.
I'm an "all or nothing" kind of person/body type. We are all different and what works for one may not work for another. I'm kind of shocked to see all the bashers on this particular thread. Some of us just can't have certain things - period. For me, sugar is definately one of them too.
Right now, I'm trying to have a fruit here and there to just see how it goes, but if I continue to have cravings, I will cut them off.
Sorry you felt mocked for your comments - I did find alot of the comments pretty disrespectful to not only the original poster, but those of us who truly have to stay away from sugar (carbs, fruit, processed).
So you eat zero carb? If you have anything with sugar, you binge on it, like eggs for example?
I eat a high protein/low carb diet. 25-50 carbs max and I try to get that from veggies, excluding starchy veggies. When I follow this plan, the weight consistently comes off and will stay off. I don't eat potatoes, rice, peas, or anything that has over a few carbs each serving. I can't allow myself to have a "cheat" day -- this leads to several months of binging. This is why I stay away from most fruits. I have tried to eat fruits - but it does send me veering off course and the cravings become overwhelming - like a druggie needs a drug or an alcholic needs a beer. I am trying to incorporate some fruit - like berries - here and there, but in the past have not been successful when doing that.
I eat eggs almost every day (but don't eat too much of the yolk because they dont digest well) and most fish/seafood and meats. I am not a big dairy person either so occassionally I will eat a cheese stick but even cheese is a trigger food. After the initial 'detox' period, I completely lose cravings and urges to binge when cutting most carbs/sugar out of my diet.
Honestly, to most people, they probaby can't understand this and will argue that anyone can eat anything in moderation - but to a true food addict, I disagree. My mother was an alcoholic and died from that at 49; my father was a compulsive overeater and morbidly obese - he too died at the age of 49. Research has shown over and over that there is a genetic component to alcoholism and just like an alcoholic, I have the same struggles with foods - particularlly carbs/sugars. I don't think this is a coincidence - I think this is a metabolic disorder. When I'm following a low carb diet, I don't crave chips or breads or starchy things. I also don't binge on meats or veggies nor are there any cravings to like eat 3 pieces of steak or chicken! But the moment I start eating more carbs (sugar), all those urges and cravings come back and derail my progress/health.
so by "all or nothing" with sugars you didn't actually mean that, gotcha
Correct - I aim to get my "sugar" from very plant-based sources and have to severely limit them. Hopefully in a few weeks, since i"m starting all over and have been on the course to disaster the past several months -- I will have results to back up my story!
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Not sure if I agree with some of the posts about sugar being essential. I recently gave up all sugar and all carbs except low glycemic veggies and I feel fine...but I also increased my saturated fat AND sodium. I'm doing a ketogenic program because the low carb/low fat/high protein thing used to give me crazy headaches.
I allow myself 1/2 cup of coconut water in the morning which has tons of potassium and other electrolytes. I think this might be another reason why I haven't had the 'low carb flu' with the headaches and all that. Sodium is essential when cutting out carbs to maintain electrolyte balance.
Good luck on your journey.0 -
Not sure if I agree with some of the posts about sugar being essential. I recently gave up all sugar and all carbs except low glycemic veggies and I feel fine...but I also increased my saturated fat AND sodium. I'm doing a ketogenic program because the low carb/low fat/high protein thing used to give me crazy headaches.
I allow myself 1/2 cup of coconut water in the morning which has tons of potassium and other electrolytes. I think this might be another reason why I haven't had the 'low carb flu' with the headaches and all that. Sodium is essential when cutting out carbs to maintain electrolyte balance.
Good luck on your journey.
Sugar is 100% essential to live. Glucose is literally the fuel your body runs on. It's not essential in your diet though. The human body is rather good at manufacturing glucose out of just about anything.
The human body is so astonishingly good at handling sugar (in terms of making it and making use of it) that it generally takes decades of abuse in the form of sedentary lifestyle and obesity before it starts having metabolic problems.0 -
Well sugar isn't toxic so there is no "detox". If one is speaking of sugar "reduction", then just reduce your intake of sugar. As mentioned, you NEED glucose in the body for it to be efficient. And an extreme "no sugar at all" attempt will shock the crap out of someone who consumed a lot of it on a regular basis.
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The body can also function very well on ketones in the absence of dietary sugar to produce glucose. But my point wasn't to argue about it...just trying to support the original poster.0
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nvm. misread the post.0
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Not sure if I agree with some of the posts about sugar being essential. I recently gave up all sugar and all carbs except low glycemic veggies and I feel fine...but I also increased my saturated fat AND sodium. I'm doing a ketogenic program because the low carb/low fat/high protein thing used to give me crazy headaches.
I allow myself 1/2 cup of coconut water in the morning which has tons of potassium and other electrolytes. I think this might be another reason why I haven't had the 'low carb flu' with the headaches and all that. Sodium is essential when cutting out carbs to maintain electrolyte balance.
Good luck on your journey.
Sugar is 100% essential to live. Glucose is literally a fuel your body runs on. It's not essential in your diet though. The human body is rather good at manufacturing glucose out of just about anything.
The human body is so astonishingly good at handling sugar (in terms of making it and making use of it) that it generally takes decades of abuse in the form of sedentary lifestyle and obesity before it starts having metabolic problems.
Wow I agree with most of what you put on this post (1 amend in highlight)0 -
Well sugar isn't toxic so there is no "detox". If one is speaking of sugar "reduction", then just reduce your intake of sugar. As mentioned, you NEED glucose in the body for it to be efficient. And an extreme "no sugar at all" attempt will shock the crap out of someone who consumed a lot of it on a regular basis.
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Too much sugar is toxic, which is why we produce insulin to transport it for fuel, muscle / liver storage or to be converted into body fat.
our body's first reaction is to get that *kitten* out of our blood stream as fast as possible (that's just a joke by the way).0 -
Well sugar isn't toxic so there is no "detox". If one is speaking of sugar "reduction", then just reduce your intake of sugar. As mentioned, you NEED glucose in the body for it to be efficient. And an extreme "no sugar at all" attempt will shock the crap out of someone who consumed a lot of it on a regular basis.
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Too much sugar is toxic, which is why we produce insulin to transport it for fuel, muscle / liver storage or to be converted into body fat.
our body's first reaction is to get that *kitten* out of our blood stream as fast as possible (that's just a joke by the way).
Um. Insulin does not exist because sugar is toxic. I cannot comprehend where you might have gotten such a wacky idea.0 -
Yes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
The presence of excess glucose in the system does trigger our pancreas to secrete insulin to deal with said glucose (I'm not sure it's just a happy coincidence that insulin levels in our body increase with the levels of glucose), or maybe it is.0 -
Yes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.0 -
Yes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.
moderate amounts of sugar are not toxic, but too much is.0 -
5-HTP is another supplement that can be taken to help prevent carb cravings.0
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What is the overdose dosage? I kinda wanna party tonightYes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.
moderate amounts of sugar are not toxic, but too much is.0 -
Yes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.
moderate amounts of sugar are not toxic, but too much is.
Yeah? What's the LD50 dose?0 -
No, because sugar is not a toxin.Anyone else start with trying to detox your body from sugar?0 -
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5-HTP is another supplement that can be taken to help prevent carb cravings.
That stuff's expensive!0 -
What is the overdose dosage? I kinda wanna party tonightYes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.
moderate amounts of sugar are not toxic, but too much is.
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I've been on a no sugar/carb diet for almost 2 months now. I'm so used to not eating any breads or grains that it doesn't even cross my mind. I'm only having trouble with craving cake...but I'm able to stay away. I cook some treats using coconut flour or almond flour and sweeten with stevia. Which has worked out great. Also I still eat berries (just limit how much per day) and maybe treat my self to a pear or banana very rarely.0
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Before you all flip out over it, this blog is about cutting out added sugar. Though I have no sugar fobia, I do believe it's not good for people. Why else do I feel so much better when I haven't eaten it for a while? The fact that your body makes it from other sources should tell you it is not neccessary to add it imho. It's just such a shame that it makes some things taste so good:grumble:
food for thought: the way some people respond on this topic makes me think they are in denial as you see with people addicted to drugs...
http://www.sunnyskyz.com/blog/200/Her-Family-Stopped-Eating-Sugar-For-One-Year-And-This-Is-What-Happened#.U0TV5AlFBCE.facebook0 -
People feel much better when they shoot up with heroin. I guess that proves that heroin is good for you.0
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Yes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.
moderate amounts of sugar are not toxic, but too much is.
Yeah? What's the LD50 dose?
That's dependant on a lot of factors.
Best answer I can give is - based on a 75kg adult (and APAP as the source) the LD50 would be between 10 - 20gm.
If we are talking chronic toxicity then 6gm - 16gms.
For Subchronic - I do not know.
However the term toxin does not necessarily mean something is bad or universally harmful.0 -
Eat real fruit, skip the fruit juice and your body will still detox off the fake stuff and the cravings will stop.You also gotta cut out white grain/bread and pasta. The stuff turns to sugar as soon as you eat it and your body reacts the same. Eat WHOLE grains. It took about 4 days for me and the weight loss process has been so much easier now that the cravings are gone. Good Luck!
this is just dead wrong on so many levels….
Actually its not. Diabetics monitor sugar and starchy-carb intake it to prevent spikes in blood sugar. Oh by the way, they also limit thier refined sugar intake or end up later haveing to balance it with insulin. Fruit juice is more concentrated and is loaded with sugarZZZZZZ.
Dude, Try not to make blanket statements with out telling us why YOU think someone else's comment is wrong... it's counter productive!! Also, read up on glycemic index.0 -
I think you should just limit the refined sugars. Keep eating fruits. It is important to have some sugars in your body so it might as well be coming from unprocessed foods such as fruit!0
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Yes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.
moderate amounts of sugar are not toxic, but too much is.
Yeah? What's the LD50 dose?
That's dependant on a lot of factors.
Best answer I can give is - based on a 75kg adult (and APAP as the source) the LD50 would be between 10 - 20gm.
If we are talking chronic toxicity then 6gm - 16gms.
For Subchronic - I do not know.
However the term toxin does not necessarily mean something is bad or universally harmful.
So 20 grams of sugar is enough to kill half of 75 kg adults.
Thank god I'm one of the lucky half who can eat a slice of cake and not die.0 -
Yes I know insulin is a fantastic hormone that does so much more than just deal with sugar. But one of it's functions is too transport glucose around our system.
It doesn't move glucose "around our system" because sugar is toxic.
moderate amounts of sugar are not toxic, but too much is.
Yeah? What's the LD50 dose?
That's dependant on a lot of factors.
Best answer I can give is - based on a 75kg adult (and APAP as the source) the LD50 would be between 10 - 20gm.
If we are talking chronic toxicity then 6gm - 16gms.
For Subchronic - I do not know.
However the term toxin does not necessarily mean something is bad or universally harmful.
So 20 grams of sugar is enough to kill half of 75 kg adults.
Thank god I'm one of the lucky half who can eat a slice of cake and not die.
Lol, sorry wrong study - APAP.0 -
There is no reason to "sugar detox".
That being said, go on a ketogenic diet temporarily. That will remove mkst of your glycogen stores. Pointless, but meh, your call.0
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