Please tell me what I'm doing wrong here!!

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  • ChriJMitch
    ChriJMitch Posts: 70 Member
    I have posted this a couple times in other threads, but will say again: weight is a useless metric. Still don't understand why the mass majority uses this to base a fitness plan on.

    Your weight is going to fluctuate sometimes as much as 5lbs in ONE DAY. Eat a big meal with a lot of salt, retain water for the next 3 hours and boom....instant 5lbs. Is it fat? No. Do you really need to get super upset about it? No.

    If you really want to measure actual progress, you need to look at Body Mass Index (BMI). It is the measure of fat stored on your body. There are several ways that this can be measured, with varying degrees of accuracy and cost:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2010/07/13/5-ways-to-measure-body-fat-percentage/

    Also, here are what the BMI (body mass index) ranges are for men and women, and what they look like in general. Aim for what you want your body to look like, and shoot for that body fat %:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    Other big thing I noticed is your carb intake is *SKY HIGH* compared to your protein intake. You are getting over 60% of your calories from carbohydrates almost every day and only about 15% of your calories from protein!!! You need to drastically shift your calorie sources. I would recommend keeping your carb intake to an absolute maximum of 40% of your daily calories, and bumping up your protein intake to at least 35%. Easiest way to do it is to cut the processed foods out and replace with lean meats.
  • k_nicole87
    k_nicole87 Posts: 407 Member
    I have posted this a couple times in other threads, but will say again: weight is a useless metric. Still don't understand why the mass majority uses this to base a fitness plan on.

    Your weight is going to fluctuate sometimes as much as 5lbs in ONE DAY. Eat a big meal with a lot of salt, retain water for the next 3 hours and boom....instant 5lbs. Is it fat? No. Do you really need to get super upset about it? No.

    If you really want to measure actual progress, you need to look at Body Mass Index (BMI). It is the measure of fat stored on your body. There are several ways that this can be measured, with varying degrees of accuracy and cost:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2010/07/13/5-ways-to-measure-body-fat-percentage/

    Also, here are what the BMI (body mass index) ranges are for men and women, and what they look like in general. Aim for what you want your body to look like, and shoot for that body fat %:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    Other big thing I noticed is your carb intake is *SKY HIGH* compared to your protein intake. You are getting over 60% of your calories from carbohydrates almost every day and only about 15% of your calories from protein!!! You need to drastically shift your calorie sources. I would recommend keeping your carb intake to an absolute maximum of 40% of your daily calories, and bumping up your protein intake to at least 35%. Easiest way to do it is to cut the processed foods out and replace with lean meats.

    :drinker:
  • mycupyourcake
    mycupyourcake Posts: 279 Member
    Yes, Starbucks addict. I thought though that if you stay under your calories that you will still lose weight. I am going to cut back on that though..but I want to drink my coffee everyday. Will drinking sugary coffees but still being under my caloric goals really keep me from losing weight!?

    If you stay under your calories you will lose weight, but for your health and your ability to continue a lower calorie diet you need to cut down on your coffee drinks. Try just one a day or even try one normal starbuck's frap as you drink now and then the second of the day ask for a grande iced coffee and only add skim milk and half a packet of sugar.
  • kitlynnJ
    kitlynnJ Posts: 78 Member
    I actually measure my food with a scale daily and use measuring cups/spoons ALWAYS. I never just guess what I'm eating. I read the labels and eat exactly what is said for the amount and what I log. I log EVERYTHING I eat. I don't even take bites of other peoples food because then I would have to add it. Seriously..I measure everything lol

    Are you sure you are picking the right entries for your food. One example is the subway tomato slices, when I don't think the sandwich was a subway sandwich? Try to pick entries in the database without an asterisk next to them when possible.

    There was recently a great post covering how to log accurately http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide
  • breakyoface
    breakyoface Posts: 160 Member
    Thank you all for your advice and imput! Yes I know the coffee I drink is ridiculous and I figured it could be playing a role in this whole thing..so I am fine with cutting back to 1 a day..about 270cal per the website. I enjoy them and don't want to cut it out completely..for some reason it gives me some type of happiness lol..and I would pick it over cookies or cake or whatever. As for the subway tomato thing..I picked that one cause I only eat like 2-3 slices on my sandwich so I figured it was about the same..but I can measure from now on.
    I either back or grill my food, never add butter unless necessary in a recipe, use butter spray any other time, don't cook my meat in oils, don't add salt to my food either. I thought I was doing pretty good except the coffee situation but I guess I'm not?! Life would be so much easier if counting calories really meant counting calories!!
  • May I add my 2 cents worth? I, too, had to give up my sweet, creamy coffee when I started this and I still miss it sometimes. But I do allow myself a treat once a week and I make the most of that! I agree with the poster above that I too have way more energy now that I'm not depending on the caffeine for it. I do agree that you need more protein and less carbs and sugar. I also have a bigger breakfast than lunch now and it really helps to get me through the day. I use protein shakes to get the extra protein and love them. I am thinking, too, if you were to add a bit of a walk each day (or even a few times a week) that would help. Your sodium intake could definitely be making the scale report an increase today. Sometimes, I want to throw my scale out the window, but if I limit myself to weighing only a few time a week, it helps a lot! Other than all that, you are obviously making a sincere effort to lose your weight and just keep it up! Good luck!
  • lisaabenjamin
    lisaabenjamin Posts: 665 Member
    Agree with everything that everyone else has said! That's not a coffee addiction, that's a fat and sugar addiction and you should try your best to cut that out. And while we're talking about drinks, I notice that you're either not logging any water, or you're not drinking any. You neeeeeed to drink around 8 glasses of water a day, especially with all that diuretic coffee dehydrating you!

    Something that has really helped me is eating more breakfast. I notice you're just eating yoghurt and fruit; some days just fruit, some days just yoghurt. Lured in by the hottie in the red dress in the adverts, I used to eat the recommended serving of Special K (which is 30g, and is a pathetic number of cardboard-tasting flakes in the bottom of a bowl). I was always starving hungry by mid-morning and consequently would either snack, or over eat during my other meals. So, I switched to porridge (oatmeal) topped with greek yoghurt, fruit and a sprinkling of seed mix. The calorie count of my breakfast has more than doubled, but it is also far more filling and means I don't need to snack or overeat at other times.
  • breakyoface
    breakyoface Posts: 160 Member
    Before I hurt my back I would run 5 miles 5 days a week or do Jillian Michaels/Bigges Loser dvds. I hurt my back to where I was not even able to walk at the grocery store without the pain going down my legs and barely be able to stand up. I am on pain meds now and starting physical therapy on Tuesday. I can't wait to get back to working out and going on walks as much as possible. Definitely exercise is going to be part of my plan like it was before the back issue.

    If I cut down my coffees and have about 300 calories left for food..where should that go..breakfast? And what should I chose to get more protein and less carbs?
  • breakyoface
    breakyoface Posts: 160 Member
    Also, I forget to log my water..but if I'm not drinking my coffee, the only other thing I drink is water. Plan delicious water! I drink tons of water all day long. And yes, I have a bad sweet tooth. I use to eat cookies, candies, cakes but cut them out except the 100cal packs once in awhile so I will do the same with the coffees to 1 a day because it's that important to me!
  • k_nicole87
    k_nicole87 Posts: 407 Member
    Thank you all for your advice and imput! Yes I know the coffee I drink is ridiculous and I figured it could be playing a role in this whole thing..so I am fine with cutting back to 1 a day..about 270cal per the website. I enjoy them and don't want to cut it out completely..for some reason it gives me some type of happiness lol..and I would pick it over cookies or cake or whatever. As for the subway tomato thing..I picked that one cause I only eat like 2-3 slices on my sandwich so I figured it was about the same..but I can measure from now on.
    I either back or grill my food, never add butter unless necessary in a recipe, use butter spray any other time, don't cook my meat in oils, don't add salt to my food either. I thought I was doing pretty good except the coffee situation but I guess I'm not?! Life would be so much easier if counting calories really meant counting calories!!

    As a fellow coffee addict, here is my suggestion, try to cut down to one per day as you said for about a week, then start avoiding it altogether for one day out of the week: for example, try one a day all days but Sunday or something, then the next week, try to add another day without the sugary coffee from SB. Eventually you could still have coffee at home 6 days a week and SB as a once a week treat.

    You could try a scale for your food. I actually just bought mine today so I'll be in the boat with you. See if that helps. You just have to find what works for you.
  • wilsoje74
    wilsoje74 Posts: 1,720 Member
    Before I hurt my back I would run 5 miles 5 days a week or do Jillian Michaels/Bigges Loser dvds. I hurt my back to where I was not even able to walk at the grocery store without the pain going down my legs and barely be able to stand up. I am on pain meds now and starting physical therapy on Tuesday. I can't wait to get back to working out and going on walks as much as possible. Definitely exercise is going to be part of my plan like it was before the back issue.

    If I cut down my coffees and have about 300 calories left for food..where should that go..breakfast? And what should I chose to get more protein and less carbs?

    If cut out that 500 cal coffee you have daily and add some protein to breakfast like eggs.
  • breakyoface
    breakyoface Posts: 160 Member
    I have a scale and I used it with every meal. I weigh everything and use measuring cups and what not. I don't have time to make eggs for breakfast..that's why my nutritionist had me eat yogurt and a banana for breakfast.
    I don't drink coffee at home, it seems if I do it at home, it's not as good and not worth it to me, or it's good and I over drink it. It's easy for me to cut things out if I have to. I will bid farewell to SB except maybe a treat once a week and obviously keep it within range, and get a Jack in the box coffee at 270 cals in the mornings?
  • Cathalain
    Cathalain Posts: 424 Member
    Coffee addict here, too. I'm also a creamer and sugar addict, just like you! :laugh:

    I use a Keurig machine and make my coffee at home - I add 3 packets of Splenda and 2 tablespoons of CoffeeMate sugar-free creamers (they have a few kinds). Total calories for my coffee - 30. And it's as sweet as I could want it. :heart:
  • Starbucks sells SF syrups and there are other companies that have SF coffee syrups as well, much cheaper and just as delicious.

    Unsweetened almond milk, ice, coffee (I buy the starbucks beans and grind/brew at home now), and SF flavored syrup of your choice - whiz it in a blender/bullet and tada... a low cal/fat, yummy beverage!

    Also, if you're out and about... a trenta iced coffee with SF syrup and Nonfat milk has FAR less calories and fat than the foo foo drinks.

    Good luck!
  • breakyoface
    breakyoface Posts: 160 Member
    I've tried different drinks and come to the conclusion..I would rather drink nothing but coffee than anything sugar free. I just can't handle the taste! I'm sure I could get used to it..but think I'd rather just cut it out completely. I'm ok with cutting back on the coffee by the way. So besides the coffee..anything else I'm doing wrong??
  • wilsoje74
    wilsoje74 Posts: 1,720 Member
    You have time to stop for coffee but not make some eggs? It takes me less than 10 min and I eat eggs almost daily. You can hard boil eggs on Sunday to use throughout the week.
  • Obviously you need to stick with the plan from your nutritionist, but I'd recommend just reading the first few chapters of the Alternate-Day Diet... even if you don't choose to follow that diet, it makes you seriously reconsider your relationship with food... one top tip I read there was, DON'T choose a huge variety of food – and it's working for me. Basically, you need to think about which nutrients your body needs. Only eat foods that are high in nutrients and low in calories. Cut out all foods that contain 'empty' calories (including fizzy drinks and excessive amounts of coffee!). So lots of green and red vegetables (NOT potatoes, white rice or pasta!!). You need less protein than you think you do, so limit the amount of lean meat and fish you consume. If everything you put in your mouth is high in good nutrients and low in carbs and fat, I think you will find it hard not to lose weight. Easier said than done, I know, but get your head in the right place by reading the right things, and you will succeed. :-)

    Oh, and another thought... this particular diet doesn't require you to take huge amounts of exercise. Housework, pottering in the garden, walking the dog, walking around the shops, maybe gentle yoga, is really all you need to do. It's better to gently exercise for a long time than to raise your heart rate too much when you still have a lot of weight to lose. Maybe, when you're much lighter, try the running again, but until then, leave it or you'll do yourself an injury and give up. Distracting yourself from always having something in your mouth is your number-one goal!

    xx
  • acorsaut89
    acorsaut89 Posts: 1,147 Member
    I used to drink an insane amount of pop - and then when I cut it out and drank 3L of water a day I dropped about 5lbs in a week just from switching.

    I still drink my coffee in the morning, I have one a day - maybe, maybe 2 if it's just one of those days, but almost always only one. I love my coffee and I wouldn't ever say to anyone to give it up but as someone else posted trying have a coffee-less day if you want to cut it out. I personally don't want to cut out my coffee, but it's not a starbucks coffee or sugary drink, it's a medium from Tim Hortons.

    I would also suggest to seriously look at the quality you're eating rather than just staying under your goals. For example, I prepare my meals a week at a time and when I grocery shop there are very few processed foods I buy - most of the stuff I eat is fresh and whole foods. You would be amazed at the food you can eat when you switch to clean eating, rather than processed. I am not an advocate for giving up your whole routine because I know from experience that trying to switch to something you can't eat or really don't like just because it's heathly will make you miserable!!

    My biggest success has been clean eating, and eating the things I like in moderation. I am not 100% clean, I still drink coffee with cream and sugar but if I cut out absolutely everything I will be so miserable and it's not even worth it in the end.

    Eat whole, non-processed foods where possible. Not sure what those are? My biggest decision maker: if the food has a commercial for it, it's probably not whole or all that fresh

    Also, I know you said you're out with an injury BUT when you're back into things, WEIGHT LIFT WEIGHT LIFT WEIGHT LIFT!! I cannot say this enough. You may not lift heavy, but by increasing your muscle mass you will burn more calories at rest and therefore have a high deficit daily. Your sodium intake seems kind of high and that can also make you retain water.
  • Oh, and maybe have a dash of skimmed/fat-free milk in your coffee instead of creamer. Much better for you!! :-)
  • breakyoface
    breakyoface Posts: 160 Member
    No, quick breakfasts for me only, but I do like the boiled eggs idea. I can do that!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Yes, Starbucks addict. I thought though that if you stay under your calories that you will still lose weight. I am going to cut back on that though..but I want to drink my coffee everyday. Will drinking sugary coffees but still being under my caloric goals really keep me from losing weight!?

    yes, you will, and you are ..you said you have lost "pounds" and have no stalled out...this is natural. Your weight loss is not going to be linear it will go down, up, stay the same, and then go back down ...

    In the log run, it may not be best to consume 700 to 1000 cals a day in starbucks, but at the end of the day it comes down to calories in vs calories out.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Even though you're at a deficit you have to also consider the nutritional value of what you're eating. If you're drinking 700 calories in coffee and only eating 900 calories in real food then you're body is probably still in some form of starvation and that could be a reason why your weight loss has stalled. I think that you would lose for a while but eventually plateau due to an insufficient diet. I believe that you should strive to eat 1300-1500 calories of good solid food and then consider the coffee in the excess calories that you're allotted and after working out.

    No, just no ...you cant be consuming 1600 calories a day and be in "some form of starvation mode" this is just down right wrong. You would have to eat nothing for a pro longed period of time to be in starvation mode..and when I mean nothing, I mean zero, zilch, nada...
  • Yes eggs are a great way to start off your day with some healthy protein. I also will hard boil 8 or so at a time and they are ready for me in the busy mornings. I also sometimes whisk a couple, put them into a pan with a lid on minimum - then run and do my makeup, hair, etc and come back to cooked eggs (took some experimenting). Also, as I said before, a protein shake is a good way too. Oh and pain relievers (I know you have to take them) can inhibit a weight loss so you might have to compensate for that. Don't forget too that building up your core abdominal muscles really can help your back. Also, a Fitbit device can tell you more correctly what you are burning and how many calories to eat.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    No, quick breakfasts for me only, but I do like the boiled eggs idea. I can do that!

    scrambled eggs take about five minutes to cook..

    you have time to sit in line at Starbucks but not scramble some eggs?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    So besides the coffee..anything else I'm doing wrong??

    As far as weightloss (vs. nutrition) goes, it's really not established that you are doing anything wrong. It's perfectly normal for your weight to fluctuate around the same weight for a 3-day period, or even longer. I like weighing every day myself, so I don't catch myself on a high day for weigh-in and overreact, but part of the benefit of this is realizing that it fluctuates and you can't get too invested in the specific number, vs. the overall trend. I'd say be as accurate as possible with tracking, weigh instead of measuring with cups and read the link on how to measure and log (it's a great post that helped me a lot), and see how it's working in a couple of weeks.

    As for nutrition, I agree with the idea of getting more protein, at least to meet the MFP goal (which is pretty low). IME, cutting calories is a lot easier to maintain if you get sufficient protein, which is really the problem with the coffee drinks. You might not notice it now, but for a lot of people drinking calories, especially calories that are largely carbs, doesn't really fill you up, so that leaves fewer calories to do so. People are individual in what works for them, but I do better with some protein at breakfast. If even hardboiled eggs take too long (or you don't like them), you could make a little extra of your dinner meat and have it with breakfast. If you don't want any bigger a breakfast than you have now (which is also normal), then maybe try to eat more than 2 oz of meat on your lunch salad? Or instead of one of the coffees add in a snack that has protein in it, depending on what you like.

    Edit: cross-posted and didn't see the hard-boiled egg exchange earlier.
  • breakyoface
    breakyoface Posts: 160 Member
    Yes, because I eat breakfast at 630am and get my coffee later in the mornings. I do have to walk in there though since there are no Starbucks drive-thrus here :)
  • Amberlynnek
    Amberlynnek Posts: 405 Member
    I hate to break it to you but you'd have to walk to a starbucks more than an hour away to burn off your coffee calories. Have you tried the skinny versions of lattes to slowly start weaning yourself off? I also like to add just 2tbsp of flavored creamer to regular coffee at home for a little sweet treat and then mix in a little unsweetened almond milk. As long as you have the deficit, you will lose weight but coffee and sugar have other affects on the body that could stymie your efforts. It can cause crashes and such. Besides, why put all the effort into counting, measuring and tracking if you just want to blow half your calories and items that probably landed you here in the first place. Learn lifestyle adjustments and make subs and swaps for sustainability.
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
    Weight loss is not linear. Meaning even when you do everything perfect the scale #s will not move in a perfect line. Some things have a temporary effect on your weight (such as sodium, stress, lack of sleep, hormones, TOM). Not to mention: what you do today may not automatically take effect over night.

    Hang in there! Keep moving forward and trust that the scale will eventually catch on.
  • Pangea250
    Pangea250 Posts: 965 Member
    I have posted this a couple times in other threads, but will say again: weight is a useless metric. Still don't understand why the mass majority uses this to base a fitness plan on.

    Your weight is going to fluctuate sometimes as much as 5lbs in ONE DAY. Eat a big meal with a lot of salt, retain water for the next 3 hours and boom....instant 5lbs. Is it fat? No. Do you really need to get super upset about it? No.

    If you really want to measure actual progress, you need to look at Body Mass Index (BMI). It is the measure of fat stored on your body. There are several ways that this can be measured, with varying degrees of accuracy and cost:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2010/07/13/5-ways-to-measure-body-fat-percentage/

    Also, here are what the BMI (body mass index) ranges are for men and women, and what they look like in general. Aim for what you want your body to look like, and shoot for that body fat %:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    Other big thing I noticed is your carb intake is *SKY HIGH* compared to your protein intake. You are getting over 60% of your calories from carbohydrates almost every day and only about 15% of your calories from protein!!! You need to drastically shift your calorie sources. I would recommend keeping your carb intake to an absolute maximum of 40% of your daily calories, and bumping up your protein intake to at least 35%. Easiest way to do it is to cut the processed foods out and replace with lean meats.

    :drinker:
    Um...that's not coffee that your smiley is drinking. Right?
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    So after your coffee you only leave 800ish calories to nourish your body? I suggest cutting back on the cals from the coffee, there is no way you will be able to get enough fat, protein, vitamins and minerals on the remaining 800ish cals