Why does Planet Fitness get a bad rap?
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I see your point, and I regularly participate in those threads. Because I think it's reasonable to call them on their "no judgement" hypocrisy. You're allowed to be bothered by that, but that feeling is yours to deal with, not mine. :drinker: (I'm affirming that to myself, not being testy)So, even when solicited, we're not allowed to share our rationales for not choosing to spend our money at PF and instead spending it on other facilities?
I was referring more to the general backlash against PF on forums like this one from people who don't go to PF (and never have), but they damn sure love to talk about it and create snarky gifs mocking the people that do go to PF (like the one shown in the OP). There's typically a PF thread every week where people love to chime in about "but you can't deadlift there!" and on and on, when the reality is most people that workout don't want to deadlift and no one's forcing you to pay the $10 to join PF. With most of these threads it goes well beyond sharing a reasoned opinion when solicited and it's really more of a PF complainer bandwagon. Just my take on it though.It's because "lunks" aren't allowed. Guaranteed if I worked out there, you'd hear it because I'd hit some heavy deadlifts that would cause a grunt here and there.
Actually they'd get you before you even started, since I don't believe deadlifts are allowed there.
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IMO this kind of place should be everywhere to take away the weak-willed people who "kind-of" work out from the "old-fashioned" gyms. Not trying to bash anyone but theres plenty of people who just come in, sit on a piece of equipment for 20 minutes working with smallest possible weight attached thinking about what are they gonna eat next and looking at clock just dying to get out of there guilt free(because the time was spent there...). This way they dont waste space in more hardcore gyms where people are more serious about working out. Also these kind of people usualy complain about the grunting and dropping weights and such so thats a perfect place for them. Its a win-win for all types of lifters.
Or the people who would otherwise go to the YMCA but PF's price is lower.0 -
I have no problem with PF. I've been going for about a year. I work out from 4 AM - 5 AM when it's really quiet. They have plenty of cardio machines and enough weights to make me happy. The early morning trainer is awesome and the group of 7-10 people who are there at that hour are great.
Never heard a judgmental word or a lunk alarm.0 -
If I was a person who was not fit, I would be so offended by that. And I look like someone who's not fit, so hopefully nobody from PF ever tries to foist their marketing spiel onto me. I'm fat, not fearful.They didn't "get" a bad rep. They earned one
Intentionally. And they embrace it. Every time a fit person posts something negative about PF, it supports their approach. They want the legions of unfit people who are afraid of being around fit people.0 -
My friend goes there and yesterday she sent me a picture of a very overweight girl on one of the machines, sitting on her phone, doing nothing while my friend waited to use it. Planet Fitness is not somewhere you go if you are serious about fitness IMO. I mean a lunk alarm? Give me a break. I agree that people should try to not make grunts and slam weights or whatever, but sometimes it just happens. And feeding people bagels and pizza is just a brilliant marketing scheme to keep people coming back. Those are two of the foods you should avoid if you are trying really hard to lose weight. How genius of them to feed them to the overweight people that go there, which sabotages them and keeps them coming back as they struggle to lose weight.0
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Do you not get other forms of comedy, or is it just this joke that eludes you?So, even when solicited, we're not allowed to share our rationales for not choosing to spend our money at PF and instead spending it on other facilities?
I was referring more to the general backlash against PF on forums like this one from people who don't go to PF (and never have), but they damn sure love to talk about it and create snarky gifs mocking the people that do go to PF (like the one shown in the OP). There's typically a PF thread every week where people love to chime in about "but you can't deadlift there!" and on and on, when the reality is most people that workout don't want to deadlift and no one's forcing you to pay the $10 to join PF. With most of these threads it goes well beyond sharing a reasoned opinion when solicited and it's really more of a PF complainer bandwagon. Just my take on it though.0 -
The Planet Fitness in my area doesn't have dumbbells above 65 lbs. Personally, that allows me to do some things, but not all. They also don't have free weights (beyond the dumbbells) and I prefer free weights. They have smith machines, but I don't include them as free weights.
I'm also not happy with their past ad campaigns. To me it says "we don't judge" but the ads are pretty judgemental. Bodybuilders are people too, so a gym should cater to them as well.
As for their "no judgement" schick.... Hey, every gym I've been to is also incorporating the same thing. In fact, back in the 80's I was a manager of a university weight room and I incorporated it too. I took "nerds" under my wing and helped them and even took some revenge for them against folks that intiminated them. I was a pretty good powerlifter and when someone made fun of other members, I lifted with them and embarrased them... Nope, I don't condone what I did. But in the mind of a 22 year old, it seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
One incident about Planet Fitness also sticks out in my mind. I was a personal trainer for Bally's at the time and stopped at a store after work with my Bally's gear on. A former member of PF asked me about Bally's and complained that PF didn't have scales because it was deemed "judgemental". He didn't like the fact that he didn't have something to measure whether his time at the gym was useful.
Overall, the Planet Fitness "no judgement" thing is overblown on their point. They are judgemental! When you go to extremes to be non judgemental and shun those who are (when chances are they are not looking to do it) you are going to offend people. That's what PF has done.
BUT!!!!
Planet Fitness has done something that other clubs just don't get. They provide facilities that are priced so reasonably that no one has the excuse of "I can't afford it" not to join. Let's face it.... If you wait a month or two, they'll have a membership drive that locks in $10 a month. At worst it's $20 a month. So yea.... I may not prefer the equipment there, but I can get my workout done...Other clubs in my area cost $50 or more a month.0 -
I feel like they are incredibly judge-y for being judgement free. I'm a little nervous at LA Fitness, as I am not the most fit and I'm pretty shy. But I would rather pay $29.99/month there and not be in their little exclusionary world of fitness ala Planet Fitness for $10/month.
Anyone and everyone who joins a gym should not be judged for that decision. 'Lunks,' 'gymbunnies,' fit people, fat people, etc., gyms should be for all. And Planet Fitness just doesn't support everyone.0 -
Its pure business.. They have found a niche, and apparently a big one based on their success... If it upsets a few LUNKS then great! More publicity for PF! I find it hilarious. I go to LA Fitness in Tampa, and it is full of meat-heads who take themselves way too seriously... I really find it amusing to hear them screaming and yelling as they lift weights and throw their weights around. However it's not that big of a deal to me because as I mentioned it makes me laugh.
If your a LUNK and upset by this go start your own gym. Oh, that's right they already did! It's called Gold's or World Gym. Now pick the one that caters to you and go workout!0 -
Mine's open 24 hours a day and it's $10 a month.
What's to complain about that?
Golly.
I'm a big fat broad and I've never seen so much as a nudge or an eyeroll like I've noticed at other gym memberships I've had that cost 5 times the amount and had no parking. And closed at 9 pm.
I've never heard so much as a mumble or a snicker when I'm working my fat butt on the treadmill. Like to the two guys that felt compelled to marvel loudly at my appearance at the yuppie gym I once belonged to as I minded my own business on the elliptical. And they were fit and trim married *kitten* in their 40s. I was in my 30s then. Try it now fellas. I'm in my 40s and I'll give you a run for your money. Figuratively speaking.
I love Planet Fitness.
I don't care what other people do around me, including lunking and dressing skimpily, as long as they don't bother me. I would never complain about that.
If it's true that Planet Fitness is for fat unfit people, then it's for me and I'm grateful for it
I agree, I suppose I am a "fat unfit person" and I am grateful for PF as well. I am nowhere near the "expert level" of other people... and grateful is the precise word. I wouldn't feel comfortable working out at another gym... not YET anyway. I think it's a great beginner gym for the fat *kitten* like me.0 -
My friend goes there and yesterday she sent me a picture of a very overweight girl on one of the machines, sitting on her phone, doing nothing while my friend waited to use it. Planet Fitness is not somewhere you go if you are serious about fitness IMO. I mean a lunk alarm? Give me a break. I agree that people should try to not make grunts and slam weights or whatever, but sometimes it just happens. And feeding people bagels and pizza is just a brilliant marketing scheme to keep people coming back. Those are two of the foods you should avoid if you are trying really hard to lose weight. How genius of them to feed them to the overweight people that go there, which sabotages them and keeps them coming back as they struggle to lose weight.
So, THAT's what I've been doing wrong all this time! I should have been avoiding pizza and bagels, because they're "sabotage." Got it.0 -
So, even when solicited, we're not allowed to share our rationales for not choosing to spend our money at PF and instead spending it on other facilities?
I was referring more to the general backlash against PF on forums like this one from people who don't go to PF (and never have), but they damn sure love to talk about it and create snarky gifs mocking the people that do go to PF (like the one shown in the OP). There's typically a PF thread every week where people love to chime in about "but you can't deadlift there!" and on and on, when the reality is most people that workout don't want to deadlift and no one's forcing you to pay the $10 to join PF. With most of these threads it goes well beyond sharing a reasoned opinion when solicited and it's really more of a PF complainer bandwagon. Just my take on it though.It's because "lunks" aren't allowed. Guaranteed if I worked out there, you'd hear it because I'd hit some heavy deadlifts that would cause a grunt here and there.
Actually they'd get you before you even started, since I don't believe deadlifts are allowed there.
FYI -- Just wanted to put this out there: I don't think people that go to PF are "less than" athletes than those that go to other gyms. I wasn't being snarky with the pic, it was just in fun! If we can't laugh at ourselves, we're just being idiots. PLUS, I go to PF, and I love it. For $20 I can go to my gym, bring a friend, go to my friend's PF, get a massage, tan (I don't tan--olive Italian skin)..... Where else can you do that for $20?0 -
My friend goes there and yesterday she sent me a picture of a very overweight girl on one of the machines, sitting on her phone, doing nothing while my friend waited to use it. Planet Fitness is not somewhere you go if you are serious about fitness IMO. I mean a lunk alarm? Give me a break. I agree that people should try to not make grunts and slam weights or whatever, but sometimes it just happens. And feeding people bagels and pizza is just a brilliant marketing scheme to keep people coming back. Those are two of the foods you should avoid if you are trying really hard to lose weight. How genius of them to feed them to the overweight people that go there, which sabotages them and keeps them coming back as they struggle to lose weight.
Why is your friend taking pictures and sending pics of overweight people? That's just disrespectful. She could have just went over there and asked if she was done since she was on the phone?0 -
My friend goes there and yesterday she sent me a picture of a very overweight girl on one of the machines, sitting on her phone, doing nothing while my friend waited to use it. Planet Fitness is not somewhere you go if you are serious about fitness IMO. I mean a lunk alarm? Give me a break. I agree that people should try to not make grunts and slam weights or whatever, but sometimes it just happens. And feeding people bagels and pizza is just a brilliant marketing scheme to keep people coming back. Those are two of the foods you should avoid if you are trying really hard to lose weight. How genius of them to feed them to the overweight people that go there, which sabotages them and keeps them coming back as they struggle to lose weight.
So, THAT's what I've been doing wrong all this time! I should have been avoiding pizza and bagels, because they're "sabotage." Got it.
Don't listen to them. Eat all the carbs.
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To each their own I say.
I'm so happy with my gym membership. Close by, 2 squat racks, 2 smith machines and a power rack for $10/month. Never a wait for cardio equipment (I was a member at ballys that actually had a sign up list for the equipment and a 30 min max. .. people would fight all the time)
If my place had a pool, I would never leave.0 -
See, and I think it sends the wrong message to say (and we do ourselves a disservice to allow ourselves to accept the message), "Hey, you fat broads need your own special place where you will be shielded from the achievements of others, because you're not good enough for a real gym and seeing people working hard will damage your fragile psyche." I got a big ol' one finger salute for them.Mine's open 24 hours a day and it's $10 a month.
What's to complain about that?
Golly.
I'm a big fat broad and I've never seen so much as a nudge or an eyeroll like I've noticed at other gym memberships I've had that cost 5 times the amount and had no parking. And closed at 9 pm.
I've never heard so much as a mumble or a snicker when I'm working my fat butt on the treadmill. Like to the two guys that felt compelled to marvel loudly at my appearance at the yuppie gym I once belonged to as I minded my own business on the elliptical. And they were fit and trim married *kitten* in their 40s. I was in my 30s then. Try it now fellas. I'm in my 40s and I'll give you a run for your money. Figuratively speaking.
I love Planet Fitness.
I don't care what other people do around me, including lunking and dressing skimpily, as long as they don't bother me. I would never complain about that.
If it's true that Planet Fitness is for fat unfit people, then it's for me and I'm grateful for it
I agree, I suppose I am a "fat unfit person" and I am grateful for PF as well. I am nowhere near the "expert level" of other people... and grateful is the precise word. I wouldn't feel comfortable working out at another gym... not YET anyway. I think it's a great beginner gym for the fat *kitten* like me.0 -
See, and I think it sends the wrong message to say (and we do ourselves a disservice to allow ourselves to accept the message), "Hey, you fat broads need your own special place, because you're not good enough for a real gym." I got a big ol' one finger salute for them.Mine's open 24 hours a day and it's $10 a month.
What's to complain about that?
Golly.
I'm a big fat broad and I've never seen so much as a nudge or an eyeroll like I've noticed at other gym memberships I've had that cost 5 times the amount and had no parking. And closed at 9 pm.
I've never heard so much as a mumble or a snicker when I'm working my fat butt on the treadmill. Like to the two guys that felt compelled to marvel loudly at my appearance at the yuppie gym I once belonged to as I minded my own business on the elliptical. And they were fit and trim married *kitten* in their 40s. I was in my 30s then. Try it now fellas. I'm in my 40s and I'll give you a run for your money. Figuratively speaking.
I love Planet Fitness.
I don't care what other people do around me, including lunking and dressing skimpily, as long as they don't bother me. I would never complain about that.
If it's true that Planet Fitness is for fat unfit people, then it's for me and I'm grateful for it
I agree, I suppose I am a "fat unfit person" and I am grateful for PF as well. I am nowhere near the "expert level" of other people... and grateful is the precise word. I wouldn't feel comfortable working out at another gym... not YET anyway. I think it's a great beginner gym for the fat *kitten* like me.
As much as I agree with you, I still have reservations about going to another gym. Some of us aren't as kick *kitten* as you are dear. Personally, its taken me YEARS to get to the level of self esteem I'm at now. Once my skin is thicker, I might look into another gym altogether... but, for now, women like me need PF in their lives.0 -
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See, and I think it sends the wrong message to say (and we do ourselves a disservice to allow ourselves to accept the message), "Hey, you fat broads need your own special place, because you're not good enough for a real gym." I got a big ol' one finger salute for them.Mine's open 24 hours a day and it's $10 a month.
What's to complain about that?
Golly.
I'm a big fat broad and I've never seen so much as a nudge or an eyeroll like I've noticed at other gym memberships I've had that cost 5 times the amount and had no parking. And closed at 9 pm.
I've never heard so much as a mumble or a snicker when I'm working my fat butt on the treadmill. Like to the two guys that felt compelled to marvel loudly at my appearance at the yuppie gym I once belonged to as I minded my own business on the elliptical. And they were fit and trim married *kitten* in their 40s. I was in my 30s then. Try it now fellas. I'm in my 40s and I'll give you a run for your money. Figuratively speaking.
I love Planet Fitness.
I don't care what other people do around me, including lunking and dressing skimpily, as long as they don't bother me. I would never complain about that.
If it's true that Planet Fitness is for fat unfit people, then it's for me and I'm grateful for it
I agree, I suppose I am a "fat unfit person" and I am grateful for PF as well. I am nowhere near the "expert level" of other people... and grateful is the precise word. I wouldn't feel comfortable working out at another gym... not YET anyway. I think it's a great beginner gym for the fat *kitten* like me.
As much as I agree with you, I still have reservations about going to another gym. Some of us aren't as kick *kitten* as you are dear. Personally, its taken me YEARS to get to the level of self esteem I'm at now. Once my skin is thicker, I might look into another gym altogether... but, for now, women like me need PF in their lives.
Maybe if you went to a different gym, you'd realize that you are no different than anybody else who's just starting.0 -
It is possible to lift heavy there.
Do you deadlift and squat there?0 -
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They didn't "get" a bad rep. They earned one
They purchased and promoted it.0 -
Planet Fitness is my local box where we hold elite fitness competitions.0
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LOL! Can you even imagine the backlash if a new business advertised "No fatties allowed! Fit people only! We aren't a fitness center…we are a gym!"
Ridiculous.
But man, what a brilliant marketing campaign and business strategy. I really hate that I didn't think of it, honestly. t would love to know the stats of how often (per month and over the course of the year) members work out.0 -
They seem to cater to people that are self conscious about starting a work out regimen. I think the idea is great -- more power to them. Good business model. And affordable too. I don't belong to a gym, but I would pick them first, just for the price.
The lunk alarm thing is off-putting though; but it fits into their philosophy in a smarmy way. A not-so-nice way to turn the tables.
Plus, this commercial I found hilarious
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I see your point, and I regularly participate in those threads. Because I think it's reasonable to call them on their "no judgement" hypocrisy. You're allowed to be bothered by that, but that feeling is yours to deal with, not mine. drinker (I'm affirming that to myself, not being testy)
I wouldn't say I'm bothered by it - you're the one sarcastically responding to my comments. I just said people like to complain about PF probably a bit more than they should and many seem to feel like they're better than other people simply because they workout somewhere other than PF. You can even see some posts along those lines in this very thread. I also seem to recall a bunch of people that don't go to PF (and never have) were in an uproar when PF removed their squat racks. I guess it's just me, but when a business I have no affiliation with does something that doesn't affect me, I suppose I just don't care all that much. Threads have even popped up where people try to spin a simple dress code violation as "PF is fit shaming!" and other nonsense.
At the end of the day, it's a health club that's dirt cheap, open 24/7 and obviously works for a lot (but not all) people. Beyond that, I don't see much to discuss, and certainly not enough to justify all the threads that pop-up weekly on fitness forums. My personal opinion is they have way too many rules and restrictions, and so I'm happy to pay more for gyms that better fit my preferences.0 -
Well, that was super judgmental on PF's part. Damn.
But, I do have to say that some of those lunks were pretty hot. Lolz.
Is that the eye candy I'm missing by going to PF???
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Great propaganda and marketing. Tapping straight into insecurities.0 -
This sums it up very nicely. I lived in Fairbanks and I had three choices for a gym. One was nice but cost over 100 a month, the other two were Planet Fitness and a 24 hour tiny place that was mostly treadmills and a few machines. SO I went with PF. It was clean well kept. It had a TON of cardio machines and the usual circuits of lifting machines. I stayed in ok shape but now that I have joined a gym with free weights and barbells and such I would never- ever go back. Squats and deadlifts are the quickest most efficient way to get in shape. Why would any gym ban them????Because of how they market themselves. They call people who lift heavy and people who are fit "lunks" and have a "lunk alarm" to shame people for doing things that fit people and those who like to lift heavy weights do, like grunting or dropping weights on the floor (which usually happens by accident).
Based purely on their marketing, I don't want to go there because I don't want to be the one who sets off the "lunk alarm". I don't like being the centre of attention, especially if I'm new to a place. Also it's very hypocritical to call yourself a "judgement free zone" yet have a "lunk alarm" to shame people that you judge to be "lunks". I'm pretty much what they'd consider to be a "lunk" because I'm naturally strong and like to lift heavy. I do sometimes drop weights, because that's the only safe way to get out of trouble if you get stuck at the bottom of a squat (I have rubber plates that can take being dropped and work out at home)
Also, they don't have squat racks (or at least most of their branches don't) - without a squat rack there's not much point me being in a gym, seeing as squats are a major part of my routine. And they banned deadlifting, which is also an important part of my routine.
So all in all, I can't see a reason to ever go to planet fitness.0 -
Well, that was super judgmental on PF's part. Damn.
But, I do have to say that some of those lunks were pretty hot. Lolz.
Is that the eye candy I'm missing by going to PF???
Not necessarily. Most of the people who go to gyms are like you and I.
Most of the people who join gyms never go. That's the business model of all the gyms and why it sucks to go during the first of the year.0
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