I'm running a marathon...
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I have no access to a therapist, trust me I have tried.
Anyway being a bit mental is nothing compared to not being able to get out in nature or achieve anything which is why I wanted to help my friend, that is what he is facing right now.
I honestly thought it was something I could proactively do to help. Obviously not. I'll definitely help him with charity applications and so on, just not with the half/full marathon.
Nobody has donated yet so that is easier.
I just thought it was some way that I could really help.
And then YOU decided you couldn't.0 -
If my friend needed a wheelchair, and I had to run 100 miles to get it, there is not a thing in this world that would stop me, whether or not I was going to have the time to properly train for the distance.
Sack up and do it, or don't, but don't blame the internetz if you quit before you even try.
Actually this plan is kind of genius now that I think about it.
Step 1 - Run 100 miles without adequate training, thus injuring yourself
Step 2 - Go to the doctor, who will prescribe a wheelchair since you can't walk anymore
Step 3 - Give it to the friend.0 -
I have no access to a therapist, trust me I have tried.
Anyway being a bit mental is nothing compared to not being able to get out in nature or achieve anything which is why I wanted to help my friend, that is what he is facing right now.
I honestly thought it was something I could proactively do to help. Obviously not. I'll definitely help him with charity applications and so on, just not with the half/full marathon.
Nobody has donated yet so that is easier.
I just thought it was some way that I could really help.
There are plenty of other races distances that you could prepare for and fund raise for. 5K? 10K? Half Marathon? Just because you interpreted (yes, you interpreted, it was not told to you) that you won't be able to do a marathon, does not mean that you do not have the ability to run at all.0 -
LOL at people thinking they have any comprehension of the NHS counselling service because they have looked on google
and seriously, people who find the end of someones dream to help a mate some sort of massive entertainment? Good for you, what lovely people you are.
Um, she is in the UK and you have no idea what her knowledge base is regarding access to them. Just because she linked a page doesn't mean she doesn't have first hand knowledge.0 -
I'll find other ways to help him. Got to be easier than all this.
I would have done the running as much as needed and as long as needed but all this 'you dont know what your talking about your such a **** you haven't the time how could you possibly think you would be ready/good enough' stuff is enough to put anyone off.0 -
LOL at people thinking they have any comprehension of the NHS counselling service because they have looked on google
and seriously, people who find the end of someones dream to help a mate some sort of massive entertainment? Good for you, what lovely people you are.
I'm in England - I know LOTS about the counselling service in the NHS. Several of my friends get counselling on the NHS.
LOL at people who make assumptions about others.
edit: joffed :laugh:0 -
I have no access to a therapist, trust me I have tried.
Anyway being a bit mental is nothing compared to not being able to get out in nature or achieve anything which is why I wanted to help my friend, that is what he is facing right now.
I honestly thought it was something I could proactively do to help. Obviously not. I'll definitely help him with charity applications and so on, just not with the half/full marathon.
Nobody has donated yet so that is easier.
I just thought it was some way that I could really help.
There are plenty of other races distances that you could prepare for and fund raise for. 5K? 10K? Half Marathon? Just because you interpreted (yes, you interpreted, it was not told to you) that you won't be able to do do a marathon, does not mean that you do not have the ability to run at all.
For the record when she changed her mind to the half marathon distance every single person who commented on that was really supportive and encouraging of that idea.0 -
LOL at people thinking they have any comprehension of the NHS counselling service because they have looked on google
and seriously, people who find the end of someones dream to help a mate some sort of massive entertainment? Good for you, what lovely people you are.
Well LOL to you at thinking that the people advising you on NHS soley googled it. I mean, they couldn't POSSIBLY live in England either....or have to deal with NHS, right? You are like, literally the ONLY MFP person there I guess.0 -
No I do know that she has no experience of them or she wouldn't be suggesting that getting counselling on the NHS is some sort of easy process, it isn't and anyone who has been involved with them will know that.
Anyway, I've been reminded quite clearly that I can't achieve what I need to so I am moving on, I suggest you all do the same. Life goes on, I am a continuous disappointment, this is no different, its silly that I thought it could be.0 -
You don't have to be suicidal to get counselling in the UK
But I imagine you gave up trying to do that as well.
The waiting list is about two years long, and as it tends to be CBT it's unlikely to be appropriate for depression, which previous posts indicate are the issue.
Broadly what I was alluding to earlier on when I pointed out just how demanding the training is. While running, or indeed any physical activity, can help with depression, there is no point in setting an excessive target too early. As we've seen the outcome of that today...0 -
your such a ****
Please quote where there was any swearing that hasn't come from you, OP?0 -
I have no access to a therapist, trust me I have tried.
Anyway being a bit mental is nothing compared to not being able to get out in nature or achieve anything which is why I wanted to help my friend, that is what he is facing right now.
I honestly thought it was something I could proactively do to help. Obviously not. I'll definitely help him with charity applications and so on, just not with the half/full marathon.
Nobody has donated yet so that is easier.
I just thought it was some way that I could really help.
There are plenty of other races distances that you could prepare for and fund raise for. 5K? 10K? Half Marathon? Just because you interpreted (yes, you interpreted, it was not told to you) that you won't be able to do do a marathon, does not mean that you do not have the ability to run at all.
For the record when she changed her mind to the half marathon distance every single person who commented on that was really supportive and encouraging of that idea.
Yep, I saw that and I think that's a fantastic compromise. The OP would have a much better chance to getting to the start line healthy, which is kind of required if you want to get to the finish line.0 -
I'll find other ways to help him. Got to be easier than all this.
I would have done the running as much as needed and as long as needed but all this 'you dont know what your talking about your such a **** you haven't the time how could you possibly think you would be ready/good enough' stuff is enough to put anyone off.
And you mocked other peoples reading comprehension.
Please please quote the person who said you wouldn't be good enough?
EVERYONE has tried to help you - and ensure you don't get hurt alone the way.
But NOOOOOOOO that translates to we all think you are not good enough.
Get help - seriously.0 -
LOL at people thinking they have any comprehension of the NHS counselling service because they have looked on google
and seriously, people who find the end of someones dream to help a mate some sort of massive entertainment? Good for you, what lovely people you are.
LOL at people winging marathons. And seriously, someone who's determination to help a friend faltered so easily. What a lovely person you are.0 -
See above post, Obviously other people live in England but they obviously have no comprehension of the NHS counselling and LIFT services or they would understand why there is nothing available in many counties (it does vary by county) unless you are admitted or a danger to yourself or your kids.
Its common knowledge amongst us crazy kids...0 -
I have no access to a therapist, trust me I have tried.
Anyway being a bit mental is nothing compared to not being able to get out in nature or achieve anything which is why I wanted to help my friend, that is what he is facing right now.
I honestly thought it was something I could proactively do to help. Obviously not. I'll definitely help him with charity applications and so on, just not with the half/full marathon.
Nobody has donated yet so that is easier.
I just thought it was some way that I could really help.
I don't know how to make things bolded, so I need to quote the whole stinking thing.
OP- I am going to ask you an absolutely serious question, in no way, shape, or form am I judging you... Did you choose the marathon as the distance because you thought that anything less wouldn't show how much you really want to help your friend?
Because I think I can say with almost absolute certainty, that people are generally very, very appreciative whenever anyone does ANYTHING to help and they don't think that that person cares less, or didn't try hard enough because they for example, they "only" did a 5K, a 10K, or a half marathon, when they COULD have shot for the moon and done the marathon.0 -
If my friend needed a wheelchair, and I had to run 100 miles to get it, there is not a thing in this world that would stop me, whether or not I was going to have the time to properly train for the distance.
Sack up and do it, or don't, but don't blame the internetz if you quit before you even try.
I ran a half marathon with no training and over 100lbs overweight to prove to myself that I could do it.
It took me 3 hours and my feet were ****ed up for like a week but I finished it.
If you want to run a marathon, you will. If you're going to ***** out based on some people on MFP, you were never going to finish anyway.0 -
I'll find other ways to help him. Got to be easier than all this.
I would have done the running as much as needed and as long as needed but all this 'you dont know what your talking about your such a **** you haven't the time how could you possibly think you would be ready/good enough' stuff is enough to put anyone off.
I think most people would agree that the half is completely do-able. The training required is way less rigorous and, unlike a marathon for a newcomer, it's not almost entirely focused around avoiding injury.0 -
LOL at people thinking they have any comprehension of the NHS counselling service because they have looked on google
and seriously, people who find the end of someones dream to help a mate some sort of massive entertainment? Good for you, what lovely people you are.
Google? just like there are people here that have Real Life running experience that have tried to help you, there are people here that have had Real Life experience with counseling, mental illness, and helping people thru rough times. they are reaching out to you as well.
......but solving problems really isn't the reason you're here, is it?0 -
No I do know that she has no experience of them or she wouldn't be suggesting that getting counselling on the NHS is some sort of easy process, it isn't and anyone who has been involved with them will know that.
Anyway, I've been reminded quite clearly that I can't achieve what I need to so I am moving on, I suggest you all do the same. Life goes on, I am a continuous disappointment, this is no different, its silly that I thought it could be.
I didn't say it was easy - I said that you can get it :noway:
But since you seem to quit at everything else when the slightest hurdle gets in your way...0 -
Anyway, I've been reminded quite clearly that I can't achieve what I need to so I am moving on, I suggest you all do the same. Life goes on, I am a continuous disappointment, this is no different, its silly that I thought it could be.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/c25k/Pages/couch-to-5k.aspx0 -
Nobody with real life experience of psychiatric services of the NHS would post that link and say it is easy.
That isn't my opinion that is a fact.
Yep I have given up, because frankly if its going to pull up loads of stuff about me not being good enough then I am not strong enough to do it.
I just wanted advice on how to train, how to avoid injury, what marathons to do, how to fundraise etc etc
The 'you can't do it' came through loud and clear, which is cool, better now than later as people said.0 -
I have no access to a therapist, trust me I have tried.
Anyway being a bit mental is nothing compared to not being able to get out in nature or achieve anything which is why I wanted to help my friend, that is what he is facing right now.
I honestly thought it was something I could proactively do to help. Obviously not. I'll definitely help him with charity applications and so on, just not with the half/full marathon.
Nobody has donated yet so that is easier.
I just thought it was some way that I could really help.
You still can! You said yourself that if the worst came to the worst, you could walk it. Please keep your eye on your original goal - to raise money for somebody - which is such a lovely thing to even think of doing for another person, and I commend you for that. Don't allow this to get in the way of that... and don't allow a group of people that you don't even know dictate how you think or feel about yourself.
I really do hope you'll continue with your goal and I wish you all the best with it :flowerforyou:0 -
No I do know that she has no experience of them or she wouldn't be suggesting that getting counselling on the NHS is some sort of easy process, it isn't and anyone who has been involved with them will know that.
Anyway, I've been reminded quite clearly that I can't achieve what I need to so I am moving on, I suggest you all do the same. Life goes on, I am a continuous disappointment, this is no different, its silly that I thought it could be.
Forgive me, but you thought that running a marathon would be easy enough to 'wing it,' but find the NHS too difficult to navigate, even to people who are also British and are linking you to resources?
I can't tell if you're getting off on making such passive-aggressive jibes to people, or if you are just unable to see what people are trying to help you with. It's hard to tell over the internet, but I truly hope you see how legitimately needed counseling is.0 -
I have no access to a therapist, trust me I have tried.
Anyway being a bit mental is nothing compared to not being able to get out in nature or achieve anything which is why I wanted to help my friend, that is what he is facing right now.
I honestly thought it was something I could proactively do to help. Obviously not. I'll definitely help him with charity applications and so on, just not with the half/full marathon.
Nobody has donated yet so that is easier.
I just thought it was some way that I could really help.
I don't know how to make things bolded, so I need to quote the whole stinking thing.
OP- I am going to ask you an absolutely serious question, in no way, shape, or form am I judging you... Did you choose the marathon as the distance because you thought that anything less wouldn't show how much you really want to help your friend?
Because I think I can say with almost absolute certainty, that people are generally very, very appreciative whenever anyone does ANYTHING to help and they don't think that that person cares less, or didn't try hard enough because they for example, they "only" did a 5K, a 10K, or a half marathon, when they COULD have shot for the moon and done the marathon.
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I've already been pledged £300 by friends and family, so I can do this!
I hope you're going to give the money back?
Keeping money that people have donated is stealing you know....0 -
Nobody with real life experience of psychiatric services of the NHS would post that link and say it is easy.
That isn't my opinion that is a fact.
Yep I have given up, because frankly if its going to pull up loads of stuff about me not being good enough then I am not strong enough to do it.
I just wanted advice on how to train, how to avoid injury, what marathons to do, how to fundraise etc etc
The 'you can't do it' came through loud and clear, which is cool, better now than later as people said.
Just like no one with real life experience in marathons would post a link to a training plan and say that it's easy. Hmmmm.....0 -
Nobody with real life experience of psychiatric services of the NHS would post that link and say it is easy.
That isn't my opinion that is a fact.
Yep I have given up, because frankly if its going to pull up loads of stuff about me not being good enough then I am not strong enough to do it.
I just wanted advice on how to train, how to avoid injury, what marathons to do, how to fundraise etc etc
The 'you can't do it' came through loud and clear, which is cool, better now than later as people said.
No, it's your opinion. saying fact doesn't make it a fact. And honestly, based on your posts in this thread and a few others....I'm going to say you probably have a tendency to give up at the slightest set back or challenge.
Which means you could get help, you just have found ways to keep from holding yourself accountable and getting the help you need.
Instead of focusing on helping your friend with a new wheelchair, maybe focus on helping yourself first.0 -
Nobody with real life experience of psychiatric services of the NHS would post that link and say it is easy.
That isn't my opinion that is a fact.
Yep I have given up, because frankly if its going to pull up loads of stuff about me not being good enough then I am not strong enough to do it.
I just wanted advice on how to train, how to avoid injury, what marathons to do, how to fundraise etc etc
The 'you can't do it' came through loud and clear, which is cool, better now than later as people said.
AGAIN
Where did I say it was easy? I said you can get it - get on the waiting list.
Quit whining and do it.
But again
NOBODY said you weren't good enough. So...0 -
Noone is stopping you. Someone in this thread said she ran a marathon dispite folks telling her not to...Proving people wrong is fun, but you'd have to be in it for the long haul....I'll find other ways to help him. Got to be easier than all this.
I would have done the running as much as needed and as long as needed but all this 'you dont know what your talking about your such a **** you haven't the time how could you possibly think you would be ready/good enough' stuff is enough to put anyone off.0
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