i dont understand what a "dirty eater" is...??

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  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    She's a dirty eater

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    She has no chest!
  • GardenGirlie
    GardenGirlie Posts: 241 Member
    I like pork butts and I can not lie...you other Pal's can't deny
  • Kitship
    Kitship Posts: 579 Member
    I guess it depends on what your eating and how you eat it. ;-)

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  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member

    lol there is nothing wrong with getting x percent of your diet from fat ..I aim for about 30% from fat in my macros...

    No one said there was anything wrong with that…

    Just labeling a food as "dirty" implies that there's something wrong with it. In my opinion, demonizing any kind of food is just one step away from giving an eating disorder a foothold.

    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member

    lol there is nothing wrong with getting x percent of your diet from fat ..I aim for about 30% from fat in my macros...

    No one said there was anything wrong with that…


    Just labeling a food as "dirty" implies that there's something wrong with it. In my opinion, demonizing any kind of food is just one step away from giving an eating disorder a foothold.

    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...

    No, but I do see that you have an issue with putting words in other people's mouths. Try reading for comprehension.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    lol there is nothing wrong with getting x percent of your diet from fat ..I aim for about 30% from fat in my macros...

    No one said there was anything wrong with that…

    Just labeling a food as "dirty" implies that there's something wrong with it. In my opinion, demonizing any kind of food is just one step away from giving an eating disorder a foothold.

    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...

    I don't know if you have an eating disorder or not, but you clearly have an irrational and inconsistent fear of certain foods.

    This type of irrational fear of foods often leads to eating disorders.

    The idea that any of those things is inherently unhealthy is ludicrous.
  • jadethief
    jadethief Posts: 266 Member

    lol there is nothing wrong with getting x percent of your diet from fat ..I aim for about 30% from fat in my macros...

    No one said there was anything wrong with that…

    Just labeling a food as "dirty" implies that there's something wrong with it. In my opinion, demonizing any kind of food is just one step away from giving an eating disorder a foothold.

    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...

    I'm pretty sure I just ate everything you listed over the Easter weekend, lol
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.

    Do you also have diabetes and phenylketonuria?
  • Drevious
    Drevious Posts: 69 Member
    Someone who ignores the 5 second rule.

    Hahahahaha! That's funny. I thought it was a 10 second rule and 15 seconds for anything with chocolate in it!
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Seems reasonable then, apart from this, of course...
    I can't eat processed foods
    What about a food being 'processed' is bad for you?
    How do you define 'processed'?
  • Drevious
    Drevious Posts: 69 Member
    It's a comment on not eating clean like other people have said, but the whole concept of "clean" eating isn't a new fad (like most people marketing their diet books want you to think). Eating clean means eating food. Real food. Food that grew in the ground and may still have dirt on it. Most people around the world eat "clean" as in they eat real food. Dirty food is anything that is processed or does not come from nature. Once you start looking at food in the grocery store this way, you will find that most stores don't sell real food. If you are interested in some good books on clean eating, I recommend Dr. Junger's books. They are informative and really inspiring. Maybe people everywhere in America will start eating local, fresh organic foods like we do in California? Good luck!
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    processed or does not come from nature.
    Please define 'processed' as you see it.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member

    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.

    But that's you. That's not everyone. As someone else pointed out, negative labeling like "dirty food" usually indicates some kind of fear (or as I said) demonizing of a food, which does lead to eating disorders for many people. Labeling foods as "dirty" often shows an unhealthy relationship for that person with that food, which also leads to the potential for eating disorders. I will never forget one woman with an eating disorder who appeared in a video. She was stretching her mouth wide to place tiny bites of food inside, on her tongue, as close to the back of her tongue as possible, to reduce her contact with the "dirty" food. If she weighed 80 pounds, I'd be surprised. It cemented the face of demonizing food forever in my mind.

    It's absolutely fine for an individual to reduce or restrict foods that he or she cannot eat for one reason or another. It is another thing entirely to label foods as clean or dirty. Those kind of labels lead to disordered thinking and are not helpful at all.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.

    Do you also have diabetes and phenylketonuria?

    Considering I have an A1c of 3.9, no, I don't have diabetes. And if I had PKU, I would've been diagnosed at birth.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Seems reasonable then, apart from this, of course...
    I can't eat processed foods
    What about a food being 'processed' is bad for you?
    How do you define 'processed'?

    Processed foods are typically high carb, high in saturated and trans fat, and high in sugar.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.

    mentioning that in your original post would of been useful...
  • iPlatano
    iPlatano Posts: 487 Member
    Someone who eats food from the trash can.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Processed foods are typically high carb, high in saturated and trans fat, and high in sugar.
    So not actually anything to do with processing?
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.

    mentioning that in your original post would of been useful...

    You really didn't see that coming? Do you even MFP?! :wink:
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.

    mentioning that in your original post would of been useful...

    You really didn't see that coming? Do you even MFP?! :wink:

    lol, I guess I am slow today..it is Monday ..
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Processed foods are typically high carb, high in saturated and trans fat, and high in sugar.
    So not actually anything to do with processing?

    Of course that too. The processing of food diminishes the quality. So much crap is added to food nowadays… sugar, white flour, hydrogenated oils, food additives, etc.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member

    Of course that too. The processing of food diminishes the quality. So much crap is added to food nowadays… sugar, white flour, hydrogenated oils, food additives, etc.
    So, how exactly does 'processing' food diminish the quality (we still haven't defined processed very well)?
    As for the things you mention nope, sugar and white flour are perfectly fine (maybe not for you, but for most people).
    Hydrogenated oil in excess I'd agree could be questionable, but in the UK at least is rare these days.
    'Food additives' is such a broad description that I don't see how you could claim it must be 'crap'.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    So you're telling me that because I choose not to eat wheat, white flour, fast food, cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, ice cream, soda, caffeine, candy, etc. because I know they aren't healthy and won't do any good for me, I have an eating disorder? LOL okay. That makes a lot of sense...
    Unless you have a variety of food intolerances/allergies, all of those have the potential to 'do good' and none of them are specifically unhealthy when incorporated into an appropriately focused diet.

    I'm gluten free (and dairy free for the most part) because I have Crohn's disease. I can't eat processed foods and refined carbs because I have severe insulin resistance and hypoglycemia. My health is more important to me than incorporating those foods into my diet.

    Do you also have diabetes and phenylketonuria?

    Considering I have an A1c of 3.9, no, I don't have diabetes. And if I had PKU, I would've been diagnosed at birth.

    So what's wrong with all the non gluten stuff you listed?
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    It's mostly an oppositey concept from "clean eating" which also has no firm definition.

    The vague generalities are that some people insist that weight loss happens when one "cleans up" their diet and rids it of foods they deem to be unwelcome. Some people omit fats, others sugars, some carbs, etc, etc. Some go whole hog and just keep omitting till they are eating gum and tic tacs. LOL just an exaggeration but you get the point. The numerous diet "plans" out there do a lot to define "good" foods "bad" or "off limits" foods "free foods" and etc.

    Other people "dirty" eaters feel that no particular foods are bad and that the cal goal itself is all that's necessary to lose weight. These people are considered "dirty" eaters because they will eat any number of things that are off limits to the person who has decided to become a "clean eater".

    That's the general idea. In a nutshell. Which no one can eat. That's truly off limits to everyone. Fer reals.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Processed foods are typically high carb, high in saturated and trans fat, and high in sugar.
    So not actually anything to do with processing?

    Of course that too. The processing of food diminishes the quality. So much crap is added to food nowadays… sugar, white flour, hydrogenated oils, food additives, etc.

    so I guess naturally occurring sugar is "good" but added sugar is "crap"…?
  • RHachicho
    RHachicho Posts: 1,115 Member
    Ok here's my opinion. Dirty eating is just fine in moderation. The thing is "dirty" foods tend to be relatively high in calorie for their volume and low in nutritional content. So if you fill up our diet plan with dirty food you will be very VERY tempted to cheat. Your body will be crying out for it's missing nutrition and the small amount of food you are able to eat won't trigger your satiety hormones very well. in short you will be hungry for more all the time. Not to mention the fact that sugar is metabolically addictive. So yeah you CAN lose weight eating dirty foods all the time. But you will honestly have a MUCH easier time if you moderate or restrict them.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    Depends on shower timing.