America is doomed

Sreneesa

I had five slices Friday, pepperoni, red and green peppers, red onions, and jalapenos with ranch on each slice. lol

Because I do not indulge often when I want to go hard I do so without guilt. lol

I know. I know. Five slices shouldn't be the norm for most of you but thank goodness I can do it! LOL

Railr0aderTony

:laugh:

I bought this, very disappointed. does not work very well.

_HeartsOnFire_

two slices of pizza, which may not even make me full in one meal, can spoil my whole day's effort in diet. Tons of sugar and carbohydrate means my other meals should be almost sugar free, which is impossible. For this, pizza is my most hateful food ever, ever, ever.

this is sarcasm, I hope..?

one slice of pizza is like 300 calories..I can make a homemade one for 200 cals a slice….So 400 cals is going to ruin your day??

you can easily eat pizza and fit it into your deficit for the day, and your macros…

there is nothing wrong with carbs and sugar...

aharper84

I agree that it's a portion problem. Take the KFC Go Cup, for instance. It's being marketed as a quick "snack," but it's more than enough food to be a full blown meal.

GertrudeHorse

Mothers and fathers are obligated to do the best they can to be able to care for their children. Obese parents with limited mobility and potential health risks who simply eat too much are not putting their children's well-being as a priority.

My mum is classed as "obese" and also has limited mobility because of unrelated health problems. She put my wellbeing above her own at all times. You seriously have some absolute nerve to imply that obesity makes you a bad, negligent or selfish parent...weight has nothing to do with one's parenting skills. Your comment is disgustingly offensive.

You're taking it way too personally. If we're going to talk about general obesity, individual outlying stories are always going to exist.

I'm not taking it personally; it is a personal topic. And it's not an outlier. I was just using my mum as the example I am most familiar with. However, I am sure that *everyone* knows obese parents who are excellent parents. And I'm sure everyone knows the occasional bad parent and I will almost guarantee their ineptitude has nothing to do with their size. You are the one making absurd and sweeping generalisations based on some ridiculous prejudice you have against fat people. Meanwhile, I won't hold my breath waiting for evidence that obese people somehow don't prioritise their children's well-being because of their obesity...like what. That doesn't even make sense. Please just stop talking.

scorpiophoenix

lol We had pizza last night and I still managed to lose 2lbs last week. The pizza itself is definitely not the problem. Like others have said, it's the portions. Take Taco Bell when they have the $5 boxes. My hubby and I will split a box between us for lunch and it's enough to fill us both up. We're sitting there half-bloated marveling that people (some we know) can sit and eat the whole thing. Sometimes we'll do Subway footlongs and have half for lunch and the other half for dinner. It's all about choices.

FraggleRockerFitnessLover

IMO, America is not Doomed...I would say a majority are not educated on healthy living, etc. But whatever, sounds like you wanted that pizza

MelonJMusic

The OP's pizza is nothing compared to Domino's new pizza with breaded chicken as the crust, LOL.

uconnwinsnc

Mothers and fathers are obligated to do the best they can to be able to care for their children. Obese parents with limited mobility and potential health risks who simply eat too much are not putting their children's well-being as a priority.

My mum is classed as "obese" and also has limited mobility because of unrelated health problems. She put my wellbeing above her own at all times. You seriously have some absolute nerve to imply that obesity makes you a bad, negligent or selfish parent...weight has nothing to do with one's parenting skills. Your comment is disgustingly offensive.

You're taking it way too personally. If we're going to talk about general obesity, individual outlying stories are always going to exist.

I'm not taking it personally; it is a personal topic. And it's not an outlier. I was just using my mum as the example I am most familiar with. However, I am sure that *everyone* knows obese parents who are excellent parents. And I'm sure everyone knows the occasional bad parent and I will almost guarantee their ineptitude has nothing to do with their size. You are the one making absurd and sweeping generalisations based on some ridiculous prejudice you have against fat people. Meanwhile, I won't hold my breath waiting for evidence that obese people somehow don't prioritise their children's well-being because of their obesity...like what. That doesn't even make sense. Please just stop talking.

You've already made up your mind. You're just another person who denies the health problems obesity causes. Never said fat parents are bad parents, I said fat parents that are fat simply because they eat too much are obligated to try and be in the best shape they can be (my original comment was based on the "nobody is obligated to be healthy" post.). Stop letting emotion control your life and re-read my original post because you are still taking this too personally. But I can't change your mind, and I won't bother to try anymore.

jofjltncb6

I agree that it's a portion problem. Take the KFC Go Cup, for instance. It's being marketed as a quick "snack," but it's more than enough food to be a full blown meal.

It's not even a portion problem. It's a consistently-eating-too-many-calories problem...or said another (unpopular) way, it's a self-control problem.

Before I even started counting calories, during a time when I did not have a weight problem at all, I frequently ate TWO Subway footlongs for a meal...$10 worth of Taco Bell...20-piece McNuggets...and various other ridiculous "portions" of food. However, on average, I simply didn't eat more calories than I burned. (Not that I was tracking this to know but because I maintained the same weight.) It would have been disingenuous for me to blame the businesses selling a particular size when I was buying multiple orders.

GertrudeHorse

Mothers and fathers are obligated to do the best they can to be able to care for their children. Obese parents with limited mobility and potential health risks who simply eat too much are not putting their children's well-being as a priority.

My mum is classed as "obese" and also has limited mobility because of unrelated health problems. She put my wellbeing above her own at all times. You seriously have some absolute nerve to imply that obesity makes you a bad, negligent or selfish parent...weight has nothing to do with one's parenting skills. Your comment is disgustingly offensive.

You're taking it way too personally. If we're going to talk about general obesity, individual outlying stories are always going to exist.

I'm not taking it personally; it is a personal topic. And it's not an outlier. I was just using my mum as the example I am most familiar with. However, I am sure that *everyone* knows obese parents who are excellent parents. And I'm sure everyone knows the occasional bad parent and I will almost guarantee their ineptitude has nothing to do with their size. You are the one making absurd and sweeping generalisations based on some ridiculous prejudice you have against fat people. Meanwhile, I won't hold my breath waiting for evidence that obese people somehow don't prioritise their children's well-being because of their obesity...like what. That doesn't even make sense. Please just stop talking.

You've already made up your mind. You're just another person who denies the health problems obesity causes. Never said fat parents are bad parents, I said fat parents that are fat simply because they eat too much are obligated to try and be in the best shape they can be (my original comment was based on the "nobody is obligated to be healthy" post.). Stop letting emotion control your life and re-read my original post because you are still taking this too personally. But I can't change your mind, and I won't bother to try anymore.

Way to go with the continued sweeping generalisations based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Anyone who says "you're just another person who..." after two interactions is clearly not making informed judgements.

You said obese parents with limited mobility who ate too much were somehow "not prioritising their children's well being", the implication being that their obesity was somehow making them a bad parent. That is frankly bovine excrement. Stretching your argument further, do you similarly judge disabled parents with limited mobility? Are they unable to prioritise their children's well-being too? Or does your judgement only apply to people you deem responsible for their own health problems? (A dichotomy that again illustrates how woefully simplistic your understanding of obesity is).

Also way to go with the gas-lighting, twisting my comments and making out that I'm overly emotional or sensitive. I am neither (well not at the present point in time). But you sadly seem determined to remain a nasty and judgemental person. I wish you well.

NOMORECARS

There has been a lot of discussion about obesity and food. But I found a direct correlation between cities with the most obesity and cities with the most car use per capita. I remember the days when we all pigged out on any food we wanted and obesity was seldom seen; cars were seldom seen as well. I then read about an annual race in Wales where horses run against men in a 23 mile race. In 2004 men actually started winning. The human body is designed for long distance endurance running, not sitting motionless inside a tin box burning gasoline.

Post the research you did and how you came to your conclusions.

Start posting actual facts you can back up or stop trolling.

This is only one random study of dozens I have found which point to the same thing:

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — Junk food, video games and a lack of exercise all have received their fair share of blame for the spiraling epidemic of obesity in the U.S. But according to a University of Illinois researcher, public health enemy No. 1 for our supersized nation may very well be the one staple of modern life most Americans can't seem to live without one (or more) of: the automobile.

Sheldon H. Jacobson, a professor of computer science and the director of the simulation and optimization laboratory at Illinois, says that the surge in passenger vehicle usage in the U.S. between the 1950s and today may be associated with surging levels of obesity.

"You can think of obesity as an energy imbalance," Jacobson said. "People consume food, which is a form of energy, and then they expend it in their activities. But if you look over the last 60-plus years, the automobile has become our primary mode of transportation – so much so, in fact, we have literally designed our way of life around it. It is that energy imbalance that ultimately may lead to obesity."

To analyze the relationship between obesity and vehicle use, Jacobson and students Douglas M. King and Rong Yuan looked at annual vehicle miles traveled per licensed driver as a surrogate measure for a person's total sedentary time.

Previously, Jacobson studied the effects of extra driver and passenger weight due to growing obesity trends in the U.S. causing excessive fuel consumption.

Jacobson said this new study reverse-engineers the relationship between weight and driving.

"What we did before was based on physics: You add more weight to a vehicle, it consumes more gasoline, and we burn more gasoline on an aggregate level," he said. "This then raises the question, 'Is the reverse true?' If we drive more, are we going to become heavier as a nation?"

After analyzing data from national statistics measured between 1985 and 2007, Jacobson discovered vehicle use correlated "in the 99-percent range" with national annual obesity rates.

"If we drive more, we become heavier as a nation, and the cumulative lack of activity may eventually lead to, at the aggregate level, obesity," he said.

Jacobson chose annual vehicle miles traveled as a proxy for a person's sedentary time because inactivity is most obvious when you are sitting in a car.

"When you are sitting in a car, you are doing nothing, so your body is burning the least amount of energy possible," he said. "And if you are eating food in your car, it becomes even worse."

The sedentary lifestyle that automobile use enables coupled with the prevalent role it plays in increasing the sprawl of our cities, towns and suburbs is the "societal price we pay for always being in a rush to get places," Jacobson said.

"For the last 60-plus years, we've literally built our society around the automobile and getting from point A to point B as quickly as we can. Because we choose to drive rather than walk or cycle, the result is an inactive, sedentary lifestyle. Not coincidentally, obesity also became a public health issue during this period."

Before the automobile became such a prevalent mode of transportation for the vast majority of Americans, "it took much more energy just to live," Jacobson said.

"The way our communities were built, the way we bought and prepared our food, even the heating and cooling systems in our living environments – just about everything took more physical energy. Over time, that has been eliminated."

Similarly, in developing nations that are just beginning to incorporate passenger vehicles into their way of life, obesity is on the rise.

"In places like China and India, where the automobile is increasingly competing with cycling and walking as a mode of transportation, they are observing more obesity," Jacobson said.

Jacobson, who also holds appointments as a professor of industrial and enterprise systems engineering, of civil and environmental engineering, and of pediatrics in the College of Medicine at Illinois, says researchers and policymakers have not focused as aggressively as they should have on the automobile as a potential culprit of obesity.

"As a society, what we should be doing is encouraging activity in our daily routines," Jacobson said. "Ironically, the obstacle to that is the automobile. So what we really need to think about is how we use cars. What we really have to do is look at the system of issues that affect obesity, and come up with a national policy that covers all of these issues to address obesity. If we try to solve these societal problems in a vacuum, we will continue to get poor outcomes and make limited progress in addressing these issues."

To push the limits of their analysis, Jacobson and his team hypothesized how obesity could be eliminated completely through driving less.

"To completely eliminate obesity, every driver would have to reduce their driving by about 12 miles per day, which is around a third of the average daily miles traveled in the United States," Jacobson said. "But here's the catch: We have to still do everything we are currently doing."

How do we continue to do what we have been doing and still eliminate obesity?

"It's effectively impossible," Jacobson said. "But if every licensed driver reduced their travel by one mile per day, in six years the adult obesity rate would be 2.16 percent lower. In other words, almost 5 million fewer adults would be classified as obese based on the 2007 adult population. At the aggregate, if we drive less, not only will our carbon footprint be smaller, we will also lose more weight as a nation."

Ultimately, Jacobson said, we are going to have to rethink the way we use our automobiles if we want to address obesity.

"We have had 60-plus years of infrastructure that has facilitated the obesity epidemic," he said. "How do you turn that around overnight? You don't. But you can make some changes. I am not convinced that tactical interventions like taking soda machines out of schools and adding 15 minutes of recess time will have an enduring impact. I do believe we need to re-think how we live as a society and effect policy changes that strategically focus on the root problems, not just the symptoms."

The results of Jacobson's research were published in an article titled "A Note on the Relationship Between Obesity And Driving" in the journal Transport Policy.

I HOPE THIS SHUTS UP PEOPLE ONCE AND FOR ALL WHO INSIST ON CALLING ME A TROLL

NOMORECARS

There has been a lot of discussion about obesity and food. But I found a direct correlation between cities with the most obesity and cities with the most car use per capita. I remember the days when we all pigged out on any food we wanted and obesity was seldom seen; cars were seldom seen as well. I then read about an annual race in Wales where horses run against men in a 23 mile race. In 2004 men actually started winning. The human body is designed for long distance endurance running, not sitting motionless inside a tin box burning gasoline.

Post the research you did and how you came to your conclusions.

Start posting actual facts you can back up or stop trolling.

History of the race
Competitors in the 2006 Man versus Horse Marathon

The event started in 1980,[3] when local landlord Gordon Green overheard a discussion between two men in his pub, the Neuadd Arms.[4] One man suggested that over a significant distance across country, man was equal to any horse. Green decided that the challenge should be tested in full public view, and organised the first event.

The first woman to run the race was Ann King in 1981. In 1982, the route of the course was amended slightly to give a more even match between the competitors. The course is slightly shorter than a traditional marathon at a reported 22 miles, but over rougher terrain. In 1985, cyclists were allowed to compete too - and that year, U.S. ladies' champion cyclist Jacquie Phelan narrowly lost to the first horse. In 1989, British cyclist Tim Gould beat the first horse by three minutes - the first time that a horse was beaten by a human in the race.

In 2004, the 25th race was won by Huw Lobb in 2 hours, 5 minutes and 19 seconds. It was the first time that a man racing on foot has won the race, thereby winning the prize fund of £25,000 ($31,786.40) (which had been growing by £1,000 each year from the race's inception until claimed by a winning runner). The year's race also saw the highest ever number of competitors; 500 runners and 40 horses.[1] The feat was repeated in 2007, when human competitors outpaced the first equine competitor by up to 11 minutes.[5]

The 2009 race was marred by controversy when the organizers deducted time spent in the 'vet checks' from the horse times in addition to the 15 minutes for the delayed start of the horses. The deduction of this additional time enabled the horse to triumph by 8 minutes, instead of being defeated by 2. Whilst the organizers at the time claimed that the time spent in the vet check (which is not accurately monitored on a horse-by-horse basis) had always been deducted, this had not occurred in previous years.[6] The fastest runner, Martin Cox, refused to accept the winners trophy in protest at the decision. Following protests from other competitors, the organizers reverted to the previously followed rules of only deducting 15 minutes for the 2010 edition of the race. However, despite Haggai Chepkwony running the fastest time since Huw Lobb's record breaking effort in 2004, a horse triumphed by 10 minutes. 2011 was most certainly the year of the Horse with a number of very good riders and horses competing.The underfoot conditions favoured the hoof over the shoe. However some very good times were recorded by the front runners considering wetness of the track. First Rider was Beti Gordon riding Next in Line Grangeway whilst first runner home was Charlie Pearson from London.

2012 saw the return of Huw Lobb, the runner who first beat the horse and landed £25,000 as a bonus. His winning time was, however, considerably down on his winning time from 2004. Coming 3rd in the Cork Marathon just five days earlier may have contributed to his running slower than perhaps he might. In 2013, extensive forestry works meant the organizers had to modify the route considerably, resulting in a course of nearly 24 miles, instead of the usual route of just under 21 miles. Despite a very hot day, the longer and hillier course favoured the horses, with 2011 winner Beti Gordon comfortably beating the first man Hugh Aggleton.

The 2013 race attracted an entry of 65 horses, with 44 completing the course, enabling it to lay claim to being "the world's largest horse race".
Winners of the race
Year Winner Fastest Horse Fastest Runner Weather Conditions Going
2013 Horse Beti Gordon on Next in line Grangeway (2:18:03)[7] Hugh Aggleton (2:46:25)[7] Hot Good
2012 Horse Iola Evans on Rheidol Star (2:00:51)[8] Huw Lobb (2:25:57)[8] Cloudy Very Heavy
2011 Horse Beti Gordon on Next in line Grangeway (2:08:37)[9] Charlie Pearson (2:25:45)[9] Rain/Sun/Windy Heavy
2010 Horse Llinos Mair Jones on Sly Dai (2:07:04)[10] Haggai Chepkwony (2:17:27)[10] Hot Good to Soft
2009 Horse Geoffrey Allen on Dukes Touch of Fun (2:11:43)[11] Martin Cox (2:20:02)[11] Hot Heavy
2008 Horse Geoffrey Allen on Dukes Touch of Fun (2:18:13)[3][12] John Macfarlane (2:18:43)[3][12] Hot Good to Soft
2007 Human Geoffrey Allen on Lucy (2:31:26)[13] Florian Holzinger (2:20:30)[13] Hot Good to Firm
2006 Horse Denise Meldrum on Tarran Bay (2:10:29)[14] Haggai Chepkwony (2:19:06)[14] Warm Soft
2005 Horse Lise Cooke on Gifted Lady (02:19:11)[15] Stephen Goulding (02:33:22)[15] Unknown Unknown
2004 Human Zoe White on Kay Bee Jay (2:07:36)[16] Huw Lobb (2:05:19)[16] Hot Unknown
2003 Horse Robyn Petrie-Ritchie on Druimguiga Shemal (2:02:01)[17] Mark Croasdale (2:19:02)[17] Unknown Unknown
2002 Horse Robyn Petrie-Ritchie on Druimguiga Shemal (2:02:23)[18] James McQueen (2:18:52)[18] Unknown Unknown
2001 Horse Heather Evans on Royal Mikado (2:08:06) Martin Cox (2:17:17) Unknown Unknown
2000 Horse Heather Evans on Royal Mikado (2:08) Mark Croasdale (2:10) Unknown Unknown
1999 Horse Jackie Gilmour on Ruama (1:58)[19] Mark Palmer (2:16)[19] Unknown Unknown
1998 Horse Jackie Gilmour on Ruama (1:46)[19] Stuart Major (2:16)[19] Unknown Unknown
1997 Horse Megan Lewis on unknown (1:52)[19] Paul Cadwallader (2:09)[19] Unknown Unknown
1996 Horse Ken Mapp on Ahmaar (1:57)[19] Mark Palmer (2:12)[19] Unknown Unknown
1995 Horse Ken Mapp on Ahmaar (1:57)[19] Paul Cadwallader (2:06)[19] Unknown Unknown
1994 Horse Celia Tymons on Eskalabar (1:52)[19] Mark Croasdale (2:09)[19] Unknown Unknown
1993 Horse John Hudson on unknown (1:47)[19] Robin Bergstrand (2:03)[19] Unknown Unknown
1992 Horse Zoe Jennings on Hussar (1:38)[19] Derek Green (2:09)[19] Unknown Unknown
1991 Horse Zoe Jennings on Hussar (1:30)[19] Mark Croasdale (2:05)[19] Unknown Unknown
1990 Horse Ray Jenkins on The Doid and Chris Powell on Elkie (1:36)[19] Glyn Williams (2:07)[19] Unknown Unknown
1989 Horse Ray Jenkins on The Doid (1:54)[19] Mark Croasdale (2:10)[19] Unknown Unknown
1988 Horse John Davies on Mavies (1:47)[19] Mark Croasdale (2:08)[19] Unknown Unknown
1987 Horse Ray Jenkins on The Doid and Bill George on Mando (1:32)[19] Paul Wheeler (1:57)[19] Unknown Unknown
1986 Horse Nia Tudno-Jones on Jenny (1:44)[19] Fuselier Hughes (2:08)[19] Unknown Unknown
1985 Horse Nia Tudno-Jones on Jenny (1:40) David Woodhead (2:08) Unknown Unknown
1984 Horse William Jones on Solitaire (1:20) David Woodhead (2:05) Unknown Unknown
1983 Horse Ann Thomas on Nutmeg (1:26) Dic Evans (2:02) Unknown Unknown
1982 Horse Sue Thomas on Simon (2:06) Paul Brownson (2:10) Unknown Unknown
1981 Horse Clive Powell on Sultan (2:02) Dic Evans (2:24) Unknown Unknown
1980 Horse Glyn Jones on Solomon (1:27) Dic Evans (2:10) Unknown Unknown

I HOPE THIS SHUTS UP PEOPLE ONCE AND FOR ALL WHO LOVE TO CALL ME A TROLL

NOMORECARS

There has been a lot of discussion about obesity and food. But I found a direct correlation between cities with the most obesity and cities with the most car use per capita. I remember the days when we all pigged out on any food we wanted and obesity was seldom seen; cars were seldom seen as well. I then read about an annual race in Wales where horses run against men in a 23 mile race. In 2004 men actually started winning. The human body is designed for long distance endurance running, not sitting motionless inside a tin box burning gasoline.

Post the research you did and how you came to your conclusions.

Start posting actual facts you can back up or stop trolling.

LOL SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE SITTING IN YOUR CAR WHEN YOU WROTE THIS

determinedbutlazy

I would eat that and know how much fat and how many calories I'm getting.
No food makes you overweight, too much of ANY food makes you fat.
Moderation.

NOMORECARS

There has been a lot of discussion about obesity and food. But I found a direct correlation between cities with the most obesity and cities with the most car use per capita. I remember the days when we all pigged out on any food we wanted and obesity was seldom seen; cars were seldom seen as well. I then read about an annual race in Wales where horses run against men in a 23 mile race. In 2004 men actually started winning. The human body is designed for long distance endurance running, not sitting motionless inside a tin box burning gasoline.

Post the research you did and how you came to your conclusions.

Start posting actual facts you can back up or stop trolling.

http://borntorun.org/

Lost_Zen

DOOMED!!!!!

NOMORECARS

there is nothing wrong with sugar...

Please back up this statement with some facts or studies or research. Or are you just trolling?