My calorie goal hard to reach, any suggestions?
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Im not twisting any words, a calorie is a calorie correct? so i eat 250 calories less than my maintenance ill lose fat no matter what i eat? now im confused what you original statement was.Its cool just keep suggesting that people who are overweight can eat whatever they want and they'll get results as long they eat under maintenance calories.
Stop twisting people's words. You absolutely SHOULDN'T eat whatever you want to stay under your maintenance calories and lose weight. You SHOULD hit certain macronutrient, micronutrient, and fiber goals every day. Now in order to do that, most of the food you eat is going to end up being nutritious, minimally processed food, but you can ALSO eat processed food or other food that you enjoy in moderation and it actually HELPS you stay on your diet and prevents binges. It's a win-win situation. Also, bottom line, even if you threw macronutrients aside, it can be argued that it is healthier for those who are obese to eat WHATEVER they want as long as their losing their weight then for them to eat "healthy" but maintain their weight. Getting to a healthy weight is the most important thing.
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coo imma eat crunch berries all day , time to get RIPPPED SON0 -
I'd go about 250 calories a day higher than maintenance with 6-12 rep range workouts. This way you"ll gain .5 lbs every weeks of mostly muscle. make sure its good carbs because you wont grow with crap ice cream carbs*off topic* I'm up for the marijuana legalization.. Always have been, used to smoke all the time in College, weird thing is, I was in awesome shape all through college, but when my wife got pregnant, I quit, because after college needed a job. I always enjoyed it after a day in the gym, helped me relax, and play music ;p. I'd rather smoke than take any kind of medicine if I could.
but back on topic. So when I drop to my weight of 195 or 185, if I maintain that weight, would I be able to build muscle, and get lean? if so, would I have to consume more calories and protein to get bigger (muscle wise)?
Yup, it's official...I'm calling it: we're being trolled. This statement is so ridiculously unsupported by even the shakiest of evidence that there is no other possible explanation than troll.
(So, alright, man...you got me. Well-played. I'll now stop taking the bait and see how many others you can get to respond.)0 -
yeah trolling for sure! good luck gaining muscle with ice cream ha. you the troll
I'd go about 250 calories a day higher than maintenance with 6-12 rep range workouts. This way you"ll gain .5 lbs every weeks of mostly muscle. make sure its good carbs because you wont grow with crap ice cream carbs*off topic* I'm up for the marijuana legalization.. Always have been, used to smoke all the time in College, weird thing is, I was in awesome shape all through college, but when my wife got pregnant, I quit, because after college needed a job. I always enjoyed it after a day in the gym, helped me relax, and play music ;p. I'd rather smoke than take any kind of medicine if I could.
but back on topic. So when I drop to my weight of 195 or 185, if I maintain that weight, would I be able to build muscle, and get lean? if so, would I have to consume more calories and protein to get bigger (muscle wise)?
Yup, it's official...I'm calling it: we're being trolled. This statement is so ridiculously unsupported by even the shakiest of evidence that there is no other possible explanation than troll.
(So, alright, man...you got me. Well-played. I'll now stop taking the bait and see how many others you can get to respond.)0 -
well guys, I enjoy reading all this posts, MOST INTERESTING ;p But guys, I'm gonna hop in the water room and get things ready for my first day of work tomorrow morning. But keep em coming, I'm enjoying this more than a perv with a new pair of binoculars.0
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Im not twisting any words, a calorie is a calorie correct? so i eat 250 calories less than my maintenance ill lose fat no matter what i eat? now im confused what you original statement was.Its cool just keep suggesting that people who are overweight can eat whatever they want and they'll get results as long they eat under maintenance calories.
Stop twisting people's words. You absolutely SHOULDN'T eat whatever you want to stay under your maintenance calories and lose weight. You SHOULD hit certain macronutrient, micronutrient, and fiber goals every day. Now in order to do that, most of the food you eat is going to end up being nutritious, minimally processed food, but you can ALSO eat processed food or other food that you enjoy in moderation and it actually HELPS you stay on your diet and prevents binges. It's a win-win situation. Also, bottom line, even if you threw macronutrients aside, it can be argued that it is healthier for those who are obese to eat WHATEVER they want as long as their losing their weight then for them to eat "healthy" but maintain their weight. Getting to a healthy weight is the most important thing.
YES
coo imma eat crunch berries all day , time to get RIPPPED SON
HAHAHA you're either the absolute greatest troll I've ever seen or you're from the 80's and you time traveled to the present day, or you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I'm really pulling for the time travel one...0 -
*off topic* I'm up for the marijuana legalization.. Always have been, used to smoke all the time in College, weird thing is, I was in awesome shape all through college, but when my wife got pregnant, I quit, because after college needed a job. I always enjoyed it after a day in the gym, helped me relax, and play music ;p. I'd rather smoke than take any kind of medicine if I could.
but back on topic. So when I drop to my weight of 195 or 185, if I maintain that weight, would I be able to build muscle, and get lean? if so, would I have to consume more calories and protein to get bigger (muscle wise)?
As you are dropping weight, you obviously want to lift heavy and get plenty of protein to maintain LBM. Once you get around your goal weight, you could build muscle by doing a bulk, which would mean more calories and protein and lots of heavy weight. You would then have to do a cut to lose body fat and "lean out" as you put it, because in a bulk you gain muscle and fat. You could also do a body recomp where you eat around maintenance or while still lifting with the goal of retaining existing muscle and burning fat, but that can take a long time and won't necessarily get you to your goal of increased muscle mass.0 -
How is it a joke?
Uh, because it's hilarious?0 -
Im not twisting any words, a calorie is a calorie correct? so i eat 250 calories less than my maintenance ill lose fat no matter what i eat? now im confused what you original statement was.Its cool just keep suggesting that people who are overweight can eat whatever they want and they'll get results as long they eat under maintenance calories.
Stop twisting people's words. You absolutely SHOULDN'T eat whatever you want to stay under your maintenance calories and lose weight. You SHOULD hit certain macronutrient, micronutrient, and fiber goals every day. Now in order to do that, most of the food you eat is going to end up being nutritious, minimally processed food, but you can ALSO eat processed food or other food that you enjoy in moderation and it actually HELPS you stay on your diet and prevents binges. It's a win-win situation. Also, bottom line, even if you threw macronutrients aside, it can be argued that it is healthier for those who are obese to eat WHATEVER they want as long as their losing their weight then for them to eat "healthy" but maintain their weight. Getting to a healthy weight is the most important thing.
YES
coo imma eat crunch berries all day , time to get RIPPPED SON
HAHAHA you're either the absolute greatest troll I've ever seen or you're from the 80's and you time traveled to the present day, or you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I'm really pulling for the time travel one...
(I took the Occam's Razor approach to this one, but I would be *thrilled* if I had to admit I was wrong and time travel was the real reason.)0 -
Im not twisting any words, a calorie is a calorie correct? so i eat 250 calories less than my maintenance ill lose fat no matter what i eat? now im confused what you original statement was.Its cool just keep suggesting that people who are overweight can eat whatever they want and they'll get results as long they eat under maintenance calories.
Stop twisting people's words. You absolutely SHOULDN'T eat whatever you want to stay under your maintenance calories and lose weight. You SHOULD hit certain macronutrient, micronutrient, and fiber goals every day. Now in order to do that, most of the food you eat is going to end up being nutritious, minimally processed food, but you can ALSO eat processed food or other food that you enjoy in moderation and it actually HELPS you stay on your diet and prevents binges. It's a win-win situation. Also, bottom line, even if you threw macronutrients aside, it can be argued that it is healthier for those who are obese to eat WHATEVER they want as long as their losing their weight then for them to eat "healthy" but maintain their weight. Getting to a healthy weight is the most important thing.
YES
coo imma eat crunch berries all day , time to get RIPPPED SON
HAHAHA you're either the absolute greatest troll I've ever seen or you're from the 80's and you time traveled to the present day, or you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I'm really pulling for the time travel one...
(I took the Occam's Razor approach to this one, but I would be *thrilled* if I had to admit I was wrong and time travel was the real reason.)
In for time travel!
...assuming that there is ice cream wherever it is we're going.0 -
Its cool just keep suggesting that people who are overweight can eat whatever they want and they'll get results as long they eat under maintenance calories.
I'm still losing eating "whatever I want" in a deficit. Of course whatever I want is done so with macros and (to a point) micros in mind as well.0 -
HAHAHA you're either the absolute greatest troll I've ever seen or you're from the 80's and you time traveled to the present day, or you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I'm really pulling for the time travel one...
(I took the Occam's Razor approach to this one, but I would be *thrilled* if I had to admit I was wrong and time travel was the real reason.)
I happen to think that More Assumptions = More Fun haha0 -
in to learn how ice cream is the death of muscles.0
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I cannot fathom having this problem. I really cannot.
I struggle to stay under 1200 calories by lunch.
If you want examples of how to go over 1200 calories... just check out my diary.
Pay particular attention to Thursdays.0 -
Look guiz. I'm negating all ma gainz by eating this tiramisu ice cram after 10 pm. And after ma liftings.
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Look guiz. I'm negating all ma gainz by eating this tiramisu ice cram after 10 pm. And after ma liftings.
This bowl looks big enough for me to swim in...
*dives head first into ice cream goodness*0 -
Look guiz. I'm negating all ma gainz by eating this tiramisu ice cram after 10 pm. And after ma liftings.
This bowl looks big enough for me to swim in...
*dives head first into ice cream goodness*
Careful, Mirey. It'll go straight to your six pack0 -
Look guiz. I'm negating all ma gainz by eating this tiramisu ice cram after 10 pm. And after ma liftings.
This bowl looks big enough for me to swim in...
*dives head first into ice cream goodness*
Careful, Mirey. It'll go straight to your six pack
BUT! If I am eating over maintenance, it'll make em BIGGER!
I wanna get BULKEH
ETA: *swims another lap in ice cream goodness*0 -
Peanuts and Dairy milk are my go to!0
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Look guiz. I'm negating all ma gainz by eating this tiramisu ice cram after 10 pm. And after ma liftings
This bowl looks big enough for me to swim in...
*dives head first into ice cream goodness*
Careful, Mirey. It'll go straight to your six pack
BUT! If I am eating over maintenance, it'll make em BIGGER!
I wanna get BULKEH
ETA: *swims another lap in ice cream goodness*
...I like the way you think! For muscles!!0 -
Look guiz. I'm negating all ma gainz by eating this tiramisu ice cram after 10 pm. And after ma liftings
This bowl looks big enough for me to swim in...
*dives head first into ice cream goodness*
Careful, Mirey. It'll go straight to your six pack
BUT! If I am eating over maintenance, it'll make em BIGGER!
I wanna get BULKEH
ETA: *swims another lap in ice cream goodness*
...I like the way you think! For muscles!!
Impossible.
I have it from a reputable source that you can't build muscle using ice cream carbs.
:laugh:
Nope, can't keep a straight face.0
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