2 year plateau and confused about differences in calories

sunshinesoprano

Now, OP, I'm going to ask you - what are you going to do with what has happened here today? I'm asking this in all seriousness. You can be upset and annoyed with any/all of the talk and suggestions given, but in the end all that matters is what you do with it. Are you going to ignore it like you have ignored your doctor? If you really are committed to losing the weight, you will have to accept responsibility for your life and your weight loss. Maybe you're not ready to do that.


IMHO, you sound like you would benefit more by working on your mental space than your physical right now. Many of your responses tend to indicate that you feel like you are a victim in a lot of your life. When we feel victimized, we don't feel or accept the power that we have over our own lives. You have to accept that you are in control and you are not a victim (of your genetics, some unknown medical issue or even the responses on this post). If you choose to not do what needs to be done to lose weight, accept that and acknowledge it. Give yourself credit for what you have accomplished and celebrate your accomplishments. Stop feeling like you are powerless to do more because if you believe it, then you are powerless to your own thoughts.

You know, there's nothing wrong with maintaining your weight if that's all you feel like you can do right now. If your mind and heart aren't in it, maybe it's just too much for you. Take a break, relax, keep doing what you are doing. When you are ready to progress, be honest with yourself and move forward from there.

I did NOT ignore my doctor...I did exaclty what she said...and it has not worked. The first year it worked great...the second year nothing happened. Of course when you go from consuming 3000 cals a day to 1200 you're going to lose weight!

firstsip

Okay, I really am done with this.

I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.

My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.

One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.

I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.

I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.

My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.

I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.

I'm out. Think what you want to of me.

Well, if you want to lose weight, it is! At least we figured out why you can't lose :flowerforyou:

PikaKnight

Okay, I really am done with this.

I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.

My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.

One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.

I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.

I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.

My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.

I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.

I'm out. Think what you want to of me.

It takes me 10 minutes or less of my entire day to weigh, measure and log all my food. Probably 5 minutes or less when I pre-log for the week (and it's never exact, but I do try to eat as close to what I plan).

If you can't take 10 minutes total out of your day for your health..than as others have said - you don't seem ready to really make a commitment to yourself and change. You've come up with excuse after excuse in regards to your eating habits/intake, lack of proactive measures in how to deal with figuring out intake, etc, your exercise (or lack thereof)....

You aren't the only person with health issues or/and an extremely busy life and others like you are still pushing themselves to succeed...no matter how hard or how slow. You say it's not practical..but really, it is. Then again, maybe you can keep doing what you are doing and succeed that way even though it seems to not be working?

Maybe you should check this book out.



When you are ready to just push yourself to commit and do what it takes to get to your goals, then come back and re-read this thread and all the advice and links people gave you.

Best of luck.

deksgrl

I did NOT ignore my doctor...I did exaclty what she said...and it has not worked. The first year it worked great...the second year nothing happened. Of course when you go from consuming 3000 cals a day to 1200 you're going to lose weight!

Is this the OB/GYN? Really, you need to be seeing someone who is a specialist in their fields. A Dietitian for food/nutrition. An Endocrinologist for thyroid. I wouldn't go to a podiatrist if I needed a pap smear, and you shouldn't be getting weight loss advice from an ob/gyn.

If you are not willing to do the work in logging accurately, then you aren't going to ever know how much you are eating. Therefore I would agree with the person who said assume 1/3rd error in all things and log that way.

sunshinesoprano

Sorry, I don't. I take care of a disabiled mother and there just aren't enough hours in the day.

Life has NOT been good to me and I've worked like a dog all my life and gotten nothing in return.

So yes, I feel like a victim.

Are y'all happy?

Nice2BFitAgain

Okay, I really am done with this.

I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.

My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.

One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.

I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.

I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.

My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.

I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.

I'm out. Think what you want to of me.

Well, if you want to lose weight, it is! At least we figured out why you can't lose :flowerforyou:

Yes, You could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying this in the first place: I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.

If you don't put the time in to it, it won't work. PERIOD.

weird_me2

Now, OP, I'm going to ask you - what are you going to do with what has happened here today? I'm asking this in all seriousness. You can be upset and annoyed with any/all of the talk and suggestions given, but in the end all that matters is what you do with it. Are you going to ignore it like you have ignored your doctor? If you really are committed to losing the weight, you will have to accept responsibility for your life and your weight loss. Maybe you're not ready to do that.


IMHO, you sound like you would benefit more by working on your mental space than your physical right now. Many of your responses tend to indicate that you feel like you are a victim in a lot of your life. When we feel victimized, we don't feel or accept the power that we have over our own lives. You have to accept that you are in control and you are not a victim (of your genetics, some unknown medical issue or even the responses on this post). If you choose to not do what needs to be done to lose weight, accept that and acknowledge it. Give yourself credit for what you have accomplished and celebrate your accomplishments. Stop feeling like you are powerless to do more because if you believe it, then you are powerless to your own thoughts.

You know, there's nothing wrong with maintaining your weight if that's all you feel like you can do right now. If your mind and heart aren't in it, maybe it's just too much for you. Take a break, relax, keep doing what you are doing. When you are ready to progress, be honest with yourself and move forward from there.

I did NOT ignore my doctor...I did exaclty what she said...and it has not worked. The first year it worked great...the second year nothing happened. Of course when you go from consuming 3000 cals a day to 1200 you're going to lose weight!

You are ignoring your doctor - she told you it's your food. You are insisting it's not. Tons of people on here are saying the same thing. Now, you're ignoring everyone else, too. You're too busy? That's an excuse. Again, you are playing the victim...now it's this happened, so I gained weight and I had a bad doctor and they did me wrong and I took the wrong medicine for 2 years and my asthma medicine made me gain weight and my skinny doctor doesn't understand me and I'm doing everything right but it's just not practical to weigh my food but I want to complain that I can't lose weight because something has to be wrong with me...all I hear is excuse, excuse, excuse, victim, victim, victim, poor me, poor me, poor me. I've tried being kind and helpful and offered detailed solutions and examples. I've even offered you an out - if you aren't there mentally, you aren't there. You are apparently interested in losing weight, but not committed to doing what it takes. Don't beat yourself up over it and don't make excuses for your behavior. Accept things as they are or work to change them, but being the victim will prevent you from ever truly owning your life. There's nothing more anyone else can do. I can only recommend that you work on your mental health and go from there.

•Tom Robbins (American Novelist b 1936): "There’s a difference between interest and commitment. When you are interested in doing something, you do it only when circumstance permit."

ETA: Just saw your most recent post and wanted to add...forget 10 minutes a day, it doesn't take but about 30 seconds per meal to weigh your food. If you don't want to do it, stop making excuses and just say that it's not important enough for you right now. Also, good for you for admitting that you feel like a victim. Now, figure out how to change it. Until you change your thinking, you are going to find it very difficult to get past all of the victimization and accept the responsibility for your own life. It sounds like you have a stressful life and you need some help coping with the feelings you are having.

PikaKnight

Sorry, I don't. I take care of a disabiled mother and there just aren't enough hours in the day.

Life has NOT been good to me and I've worked like a dog all my life and gotten nothing in return.

So yes, I feel like a victim.

Are y'all happy?

This isn't about us. But if you want to stay a feeling like a victim, that's all on you.

_HeartsOnFire_

Thank you all for your comments.

I do use a meter when I work out, so I am not overestimating that. I sweat like no one's business and I know what a 500 calorie burn feels like as opposed to a 100 or 200 calorie one.

Yes, I'm sure my good estimates are off. Yes, to quote someone else, apparently I suck at this.

My one question is, why are some of you so aggressive with your comments? It's really not necessary.

I didn't see anyone being too aggressive, but I did see some snark after tons of good suggestions were shot down. I didn't see anyone say you "suck at this"...again, that's making yourself a victim. People aren't attacking you or trying to put you down. People are offering you very good advice based on real life experiences. You are a normal human being...completely normal. Did you know that overweight people can underestimate what they are eating on a daily basis by 30% or more? Most of the posts on here have been trying to help you understand this. You are not unique - there's nothing wrong with you and you don't suck. You have a problem and people offered solutions. You still have a problem based on your comments. Instead of acknowledging the help you have been given and coming up with a plan of action, you are focusing on the fact that everyone says you suck and people are being mean/aggressive.

Now, on to your calorie burns...your tracker can very well be off. Is it a HRM? If so, even that's not going to be accurate, especially for walking, etc - it's all based on formulas based on averages. Say your HRM is at 165 doing the Leslie Sansone DVDs and mine is at 135, but I'm the same height and age as you and weigh 250 instead of 230, yet your HRM says you've burned more calories than me because your heart rate was higher. Is that accurate? No, I have more mass to move and moving more mass burns more calories. Just because I'm fitter than you doesn't move I burn less calories than you. It's all based on estimates and averages. Why are you so quick to jump so quickly on blindly believing your HRM calorie burns, but not on getting accurate intake records? FWIW - I am heavier than you and I know from experience that my heart rate and sweatiness do not dictate my calorie burn. I can walk on a treadmill with an incline with a fan blowing on me and barely get a sweat on, but then go walking outside in the heat and my heart rate and body temperature will go up. I won't burn more calories just because I'm sweatier or even just because my heart rate is 10 BPM faster. Also, I am heavier than you, taller than you and younger than you and if I put some effort in to walking up hills/speed intervals, I can burn about 500 calories in 3 miles, but not doing a DVD inside on completely level ground...

sunshinesoprano

Okay, I really am done with this.

I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.

My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.

One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.

I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.

I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.

My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.

I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.

I'm out. Think what you want to of me.

Well, if you want to lose weight, it is! At least we figured out why you can't lose :flowerforyou:

Yes, You could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying this in the first place: I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.

If you don't put the time in to it, it won't work. PERIOD.

I don't think that's the entire answer, but thanks.
You didn't have to respond.

sunshinesoprano

Now, OP, I'm going to ask you - what are you going to do with what has happened here today? I'm asking this in all seriousness. You can be upset and annoyed with any/all of the talk and suggestions given, but in the end all that matters is what you do with it. Are you going to ignore it like you have ignored your doctor? If you really are committed to losing the weight, you will have to accept responsibility for your life and your weight loss. Maybe you're not ready to do that.


IMHO, you sound like you would benefit more by working on your mental space than your physical right now. Many of your responses tend to indicate that you feel like you are a victim in a lot of your life. When we feel victimized, we don't feel or accept the power that we have over our own lives. You have to accept that you are in control and you are not a victim (of your genetics, some unknown medical issue or even the responses on this post). If you choose to not do what needs to be done to lose weight, accept that and acknowledge it. Give yourself credit for what you have accomplished and celebrate your accomplishments. Stop feeling like you are powerless to do more because if you believe it, then you are powerless to your own thoughts.

You know, there's nothing wrong with maintaining your weight if that's all you feel like you can do right now. If your mind and heart aren't in it, maybe it's just too much for you. Take a break, relax, keep doing what you are doing. When you are ready to progress, be honest with yourself and move forward from there.

I did NOT ignore my doctor...I did exaclty what she said...and it has not worked. The first year it worked great...the second year nothing happened. Of course when you go from consuming 3000 cals a day to 1200 you're going to lose weight!

You are ignoring your doctor - she told you it's your food. You are insisting it's not. Tons of people on here are saying the same thing. Now, you're ignoring everyone else, too. You're too busy? That's an excuse. Again, you are playing the victim...now it's this happened, so I gained weight and I had a bad doctor and they did me wrong and I took the wrong medicine for 2 years and my asthma medicine made me gain weight and my skinny doctor doesn't understand me and I'm doing everything right but it's just not practical to weigh my food but I want to complain that I can't lose weight because something has to be wrong with me...all I hear is excuse, excuse, excuse, victim, victim, victim, poor me, poor me, poor me. I've tried being kind and helpful and offered detailed solutions and examples. I've even offered you an out - if you aren't there mentally, you aren't there. You are apparently interested in losing weight, but not committed to doing what it takes. Don't beat yourself up over it and don't make excuses for your behavior. Accept things as they are or work to change them, but being the victim will prevent you from ever truly owning your life. There's nothing more anyone else can do. I can only recommend that you work on your mental health and go from there.

•Tom Robbins (American Novelist b 1936): "There’s a difference between interest and commitment. When you are interested in doing something, you do it only when circumstance permit."

I did what she said and it didn't work. I am not sure what the heck you don't understand about that.

WBB55

If you have time to drive to Fazolli's, you have time to make a meal.

I know you don't FEEL like cooking. But trust me, you have time. You really, truly, honestly, cross-my-heart, do. For me to make my lunch salads for the ENTIRE week, takes me less time than it takes waiting for a waitress to bring me back my change at a restaurant.

LiftAllThePizzas

How do you track all you eat? Do you use a digital food scale for everything (except liquids)?

HOw long eating at 1740?

Several months. I don't use a digital scale but when I eat at work I ask them what the measurements are...it's a cafeteria so that's pretty easy for them. The rest is a pretty good estimate, and I know I tend to overestimate the portions because I'm afraid to underestimate.

There's your problem.

sunshinesoprano

Coming here for support and encouragement is definitely not a good idea.

Walk in my shoes for a while and you might see why this is not so easy.

Farewell.

auddii

You've spent far more time replying to this thread than it would take to weigh your food for the day. Even when busy, you can make it work.

firstsip

Sorry, I don't. I take care of a disabiled mother and there just aren't enough hours in the day.

Life has NOT been good to me and I've worked like a dog all my life and gotten nothing in return.

So yes, I feel like a victim.

Are y'all happy?

Interesting. I took care of my disabled grandfather for six months, and I was fully able to measure out my food... because disabled people sit, sleep, etc. when they're not at PT, doctor's appointments or needing to be changed or bathed or worked with.

Oh well. No, none of us are happy. No one likes to see someone that spews projection, denies responsibility or choose to stay unhappy or unhealthy. The people who play the "I have it harder" card especially upset me, because like hell do you know what any of us have gone through, dealt with and/or are working to overcome. I feel quite sad, actually.

sunshinesoprano

If you have time to drive to Fazolli's, you have time to make a meal.

I know you don't FEEL like cooking. But trust me, you have time. You really, truly, honestly, cross-my-heart, do. For me to make my lunch salads for the ENTIRE week, takes me less time than it takes waiting for a waitress to bring me back my change at a restaurant.

I was doing things after work and it was late in the day and I was close to that place and it was what my Mother wanted.

deksgrl

I did what she said and it didn't work. I am not sure what the heck you don't understand about that.

Again, the OB/GYN??

Really, if you had cancer or something wouldn't you go to 10 different doctors 20? Go across the country to find something that would work? Why wouldn't you go see a dietary specialist and an endocrinologist?

colleensmith50159

Try 1,500 calories and walk for exercise do a little at a time youll get there

PikaKnight

Coming here for support and encouragement is definitely not a good idea.

Walk in my shoes for a while and you might see why this is not so easy.

Farewell.