You people are sooooo mean!
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someone keeps going round and round with everyone else.11 PAGES?!?
C'mon!
Could someone give me the Cliff's/Cole's?
it's getting old.
And yet we're all here.0 -
Seriously though, simple question:
If eating "animal protein" (which is biochemically identical to plant protein by the way) caused calcium to leech from your bones, why don't mammalian carnivores with the same metabolic processes as us suffer from calcium depletion and weakening of their bones? All they eat is animal protein.
Because they are carnivores... we are not.0 -
I am persistent, I wont shut up, and I don't care if I was wrong with my well intentioned post that you guys attacked me for.
I have my own advocations and you will not see me stop until at least one person's view on how this situation was handled is changed. It's revolting that I have to call you humans too. Where the crap is the compassion? And all you can come back with is "oh she's a baby", "she can't let it go", "so sensitive", etc... which again are CLASSIC abuse excuses from mean beating their wives.
I said something wrong on the internet and people weren't nice to me when they corrected me and then I called them the R word AND NOW THEY WON"T SAY SORRY= Men beating their wives.
Alrighty.0 -
And hows your bedside manner doc? I don't care what you have to tell me if you're going to tell me in a way that is insulting to my well being. I have the right to protect myself from attacks even if that means remaining ignorant. Because as a DOCTOR should know that one teaches others how to treat them. I'm new to this whole diet and exercise stuff, but psychology I am not. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that I endured cyber abuse today. Which didn't stop short of all the classic abuse signs and symptoms. From convincing the victim that they are deserving of the abuse/ or that I asked for it to the very obvious belittling. But then again, I don't expect much to be educated on abuse here or this probably would not of happened.
You do know that PhD.s don't actually practice medicine, right? And as such, they have no need for bedside manner?
bully.
meanie.0 -
Is she saying 'barf'?
I see "Mounds"
I think because I'm hungry and I don't feel like a nut.0 -
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I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.
It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.
Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?
I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!
*you're
Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.
Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.
It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.
This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.
You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).
I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!
Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327
Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.
I invite you to now actually read your own citation.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk
That is from 1996.
You know what is more recent? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327
You should be familiar with that. But here's the summary, one more time: Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.
I bolded the part that specifically references the '96 study.
By all means then, attack me for not keeping up with this massive amount of information out there where people can easily get confused.
Again, Making me look dumb does not make you look smart. Just makes you look like an as$hole
Not attacking you for being confused, attacking you for propagating and disseminating mininformation in a public forum before bothering to get your facts straight by investigating the publically available research. If you don't know enough about a subject, don't talk about it publically or if you do expect people to chime in with any critisisms.
And i'm supposed to trust that you know you're *kitten*?
I don't think you trust me at all know. I don't think mentioning my Ph.D. in molecular biology or my focus on protein biochemistry would actually convince you either, nor should it. Ones correctness does not stem from ones authority or ones study but on what citations and research one can provide to back up ones claims.
And hows your bedside manner doc? I don't care what you have to tell me if you're going to tell me in a way that is insulting to my well being. I have the right to protect myself from attacks even if that means remaining ignorant. Because as a DOCTOR should know that one teaches others how to treat them. I'm new to this whole diet and exercise stuff, but psychology I am not. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that I endured cyber abuse today. Which didn't stop short of all the classic abuse signs and symptoms. From convincing the victim that they are deserving of the abuse/ or that I asked for it to the very obvious belittling. But then again, I don't expect much to be educated on abuse here or this probably would not of happened.
Oh No! Not the bully card!!!
What I find interesting is that you openly admit to being new to "the whole diet and exercise stuff" yet it didn't stop you from posting completely inaccurate information about diet and exercise.
Do more research, test it out and keep the posting advice to forums to a zero.0 -
Seriously though, simple question:
If eating "animal protein" (which is biochemically identical to plant protein by the way) caused calcium to leech from your bones, why don't mammalian carnivores with the same metabolic processes as us suffer from calcium depletion and weakening of their bones? All they eat is animal protein.
Because they are carnivores... we are not.
Right . We're omnivores.
Quit using words. You don't know what they mean.0 -
Is she saying 'barf'?
I see "Mounds"
I think because I'm hungry and I don't feel like a nut.
I thought it was "wow."0 -
Sitting back and reading your responses, most of them start with attacks on the person you are responding to. While it is possible for people to take a high road when replyin to you, the continual abuse you spew through your keyboard makes that less likely.
The only thing you can change in the world is yourself and how you react to situations.
This. The only actions you can truly are capable of changing. The best way to try and impliment change is to act and be a living example of the change you wish to see. At least, in my opinion.0 -
I am persistent, I wont shut up, and I don't care if I was wrong with my well intentioned post that you guys attacked me for.
I have my own advocations and you will not see me stop until at least one person's view on how this situation was handled is changed. It's revolting that I have to call you humans too. Where the crap is the compassion? And all you can come back with is "oh she's a baby", "she can't let it go", "so sensitive", etc... which again are CLASSIC abuse excuses from mean beating their wives.
You're gonna wait here until one of us changes our mind about something?
Okay maybe if you post your boobs in a different bra I might concede they are better than mine. Mine are after all quite old and so you really do have your best chance there. PM me when you've posted your amazing breastasses for my judgement of their mind changing magic. =-D0 -
Seriously though, simple question:
If eating "animal protein" (which is biochemically identical to plant protein by the way) caused calcium to leech from your bones, why don't mammalian carnivores with the same metabolic processes as us suffer from calcium depletion and weakening of their bones? All they eat is animal protein.
Because they are carnivores... we are not.
No. We are omnivores. You still haven't answered how carnivores manage to do it.0 -
And hows your bedside manner doc? I don't care what you have to tell me if you're going to tell me in a way that is insulting to my well being. I have the right to protect myself from attacks even if that means remaining ignorant. Because as a DOCTOR should know that one teaches others how to treat them. I'm new to this whole diet and exercise stuff, but psychology I am not. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that I endured cyber abuse today. Which didn't stop short of all the classic abuse signs and symptoms. From convincing the victim that they are deserving of the abuse/ or that I asked for it to the very obvious belittling. But then again, I don't expect much to be educated on abuse here or this probably would not of happened.
You do know that PhD.s don't actually practice medicine, right? And as such, they have no need for bedside manner?
Still doesn't say much about you. Your PhD gains you less respect than actually having respectful behavior.0 -
And hows your bedside manner doc? I don't care what you have to tell me if you're going to tell me in a way that is insulting to my well being. I have the right to protect myself from attacks even if that means remaining ignorant. Because as a DOCTOR should know that one teaches others how to treat them. I'm new to this whole diet and exercise stuff, but psychology I am not. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that I endured cyber abuse today. Which didn't stop short of all the classic abuse signs and symptoms. From convincing the victim that they are deserving of the abuse/ or that I asked for it to the very obvious belittling. But then again, I don't expect much to be educated on abuse here or this probably would not of happened.
You do know that PhD.s don't actually practice medicine, right? And as such, they have no need for bedside manner?
bully.
meanie.
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thank you for these handy instructions on how to ignore just you. :drinker:0 -
Seriously...this whole thing could be settled with a good dance fight.
COME ON! 5,6,7,8,
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And hows your bedside manner doc? I don't care what you have to tell me if you're going to tell me in a way that is insulting to my well being. I have the right to protect myself from attacks even if that means remaining ignorant. Because as a DOCTOR should know that one teaches others how to treat them. I'm new to this whole diet and exercise stuff, but psychology I am not. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that I endured cyber abuse today. Which didn't stop short of all the classic abuse signs and symptoms. From convincing the victim that they are deserving of the abuse/ or that I asked for it to the very obvious belittling. But then again, I don't expect much to be educated on abuse here or this probably would not of happened.
You do know that PhD.s don't actually practice medicine, right? And as such, they have no need for bedside manner?
bully.
meanie.
0 -
And hows your bedside manner doc? I don't care what you have to tell me if you're going to tell me in a way that is insulting to my well being. I have the right to protect myself from attacks even if that means remaining ignorant. Because as a DOCTOR should know that one teaches others how to treat them. I'm new to this whole diet and exercise stuff, but psychology I am not. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that I endured cyber abuse today. Which didn't stop short of all the classic abuse signs and symptoms. From convincing the victim that they are deserving of the abuse/ or that I asked for it to the very obvious belittling. But then again, I don't expect much to be educated on abuse here or this probably would not of happened.
You do know that PhD.s don't actually practice medicine, right? And as such, they have no need for bedside manner?
Still doesn't say much about you. Your PhD gains you less respect than actually having respectful behavior.
I have a feeling he doesn't really care if you respect him.0 -
i think it is time.
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I am persistent, I wont shut up, and I don't care if I was wrong with my well intentioned post that you guys attacked me for.
I have my own advocations and you will not see me stop until at least one person's view on how this situation was handled is changed. It's revolting that I have to call you humans too. Where the crap is the compassion? And all you can come back with is "oh she's a baby", "she can't let it go", "so sensitive", etc... which again are CLASSIC abuse excuses from mean beating their wives.
You're gonna wait here until one of us changes our mind about something?
Okay maybe if you post your boobs in a different bra I might concede they are better than mine. Mine are after all quite old and so you really do have your best chance there. PM me when you've posted your amazing breastasses for my judgement of their mind changing magic. =-D
Yeah, I'll throw my hat in there too.
Congrats, OP. You may or may not have a better rack than 2 old broads. WIN!0
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