Is losing weight supposed to be hard?
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I'm sorry, but as someone who works with 18 YO's on a regular basis, I have yet to meet one that was THIS ignorant and obnoxious that wasn't just doing it to try to upset people. So no matter what age the OP actually is (and I'm almost certain it's NOT 18), this is just 100% pure troll. So moving on:
I'm not seeing many gifs yet? Am I just missing out because I'm at work, and if not it's time for gif hijack. Go.
Meanwhile, the OP and the ageist girl are off to get their fake ID cards:
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LOL! yepGuys really stop feeding this troll. All he wants to do is make overweight people feel like *kitten*. Hes a spoiled little brat high on his recently acquired and unfamiliar male hormones. Why for the love of god are you actually taking him seriously? Let him prattle on. he will learn his lesson the hard way. As people like him always have to.
Oh you have confused this with seriousness. Trust me, I am not taking this seriously...I have a big ****-eating grin on right now.0 -
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you shouldnt speak that way about yourself.Oh and by the way, a lot if you are being ageist.
I love how direct and strong young people are. I respect what they've got to say, they quite often haven't had the nasty knock backs that make the rest of us half hearted and weak. I like being around people like that.
/eye roll
I'm a higher education lecturer. I love it when I see them later in life and their youthful arrogance has weathered them through this ****storm called life.
Adults are pretty frikkin rubbish sometimes.0 -
Umm so far I'm a few pages in...and is it just me or is this "18 yr old" simply saying a lot of the things the rest of us say?
CI/CO
No excuses
Find a way
Problem solve
Have a WHY
etc, etc, etc.
I read the thread title and thought "finally someone gets it, it doesnt' have to be 3 hours on the treadmill, eating a mushroom and a cucumber and having hunger 'pains' for the rest of the day, yo-yo dieting and extemely low cal goals to get the weight off FAST". I'm a few pages in and I'm still not sure he's not just saying mostly the same.
Once you get the basics down and have a plan it's pretty much smooth sailing with some minor bumps when crap happens, but that's few and far between and not really indicating the weight loss itself is hard but that one's own priorities were shifted temporarily or permanently as the case may be.
So far I'm inclined to want to hire the OP as my motivator and K.I.S.S. coach.0 -
I've always read and heard about people complaining about weight loss being too difficult, or that it's too complicated. I'm on day 48 of my weight loss "journey" if you wish to call it that, and there's been absolutely zero challenges I've faced. I lift weights 3-4 days a week, and eat at a 500 calorie deficit and I've lost 16 pounds.
So what's the big deal with weight loss? Why is it considered to be so impossible?
I'm finishing up my second year and have to agree. I think some people find it hard because they haven't really figured it out yet.
I would agree that it's simple. Easy is another thing. And, if one of my kids got seriously sick, you know that tracking calories would be the last thing on my mind.
I think easy depends on your frame of mind. I have had my own personal stressors, and I have decided not to log here and there, but that's just life. Life sometimes throws you a curve ball, and you have to react.
That doesn't make it *hard* to lose weight, once you find what works. And obviously, I realize that some folks have medical conditions, and some may be on birth control or other meds that directly cause weight gain. I'm not dismissing that. I'm just saying, that for me, I struggled for *YEARS* to figure it out. Once I finally learned how it works, and figured out the right macros/calorie goal for *ME* personally, then it was easy. I used to drop and gain 20 pounds from diet pills and such. Now I'm lighter than I've been since my kiddos, and I've been able to maintain that for over 9 months without tracking daily.
So, that's why I said the people who struggle are people who haven't figured it out. Or they could have some medical condition, which I didn't mention in my earlier comment, but yes, for some, that's simply a fact.
Many of the people who struggle haven't figured it out yet. However, I've had this conversation with my friends list. and some of the people who have been really successful and inspirational, etc. admit to still struggling with it. Different people have different challenges.0 -
Those aren't challenges, those are excuses
You have all the tools available to you that you need to complete your goal. Responsibility and stress aren't reasons to not develop healthy habitsYou're in high school and have zero life responsibilities and associated stressors.
Grow up and stop trivializing what is difficult for a lot of people.
Don't have time to have a healthy breakfast or lunch?
Make it the night before and en masse
Don't have time to exercise?
Go for walks around the office or workplace if you have the chance
You asked about challenges. Examples were given. No one said those challenges preclude success.
The troll is strong with this one.
*eyeroll* excuses<priorities. It is difficult end of story, but it is something you have to MAKE yourself do to be a better YOU !0 -
Oh and by the way, a lot if you are being ageist.
I love how direct and strong young people are. I respect what they've got to say, they quite often haven't had the nasty knock backs that make the rest of us half hearted and weak. I like being around people like that.
:yawn:
Yeah, I liked to bang 18 year olds too.
Granted I was also 18, but hey, who wants to grow up.
Ladylike! I'm a teacher at a college. I understand how these people work. Really mature btw! Keep at it!
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45 days and 16lbs, is that all you have lost, not much for an 18 year old boy to be honest? I lost 15lbs in the first 28 days way back when I was 18 doing my first diet (and Im a woman). Now 25 years later it takes me 2 months to lose that
lol THIS. So much this. If I had the knowledge I have now and the energy, free time, and lack of responsibility I had at 18, I could have been dropping weight like a madman. Even as it is, I'm a 33 year old with busted up knees and lost way more than 16 measly little pounds in the first month.0 -
Oh and by the way, a lot if you are being ageist.
I love how direct and strong young people are. I respect what they've got to say, they quite often haven't had the nasty knock backs that make the rest of us half hearted and weak. I like being around people like that.
:yawn:
Yeah, I liked to bang 18 year olds too.
Granted I was also 18, but hey, who wants to grow up.
Ladylike! I'm a teacher at a college. I understand how these people work. Really mature btw! Keep at it!
I've taught Highschool and College and I've never met a student this willfully ignorant that wasn't doing it just to get a rise out of someone, so troll.0 -
Those aren't challenges, those are excuses
You have all the tools available to you that you need to complete your goal. Responsibility and stress aren't reasons to not develop healthy habitsYou're in high school and have zero life responsibilities and associated stressors.
Grow up and stop trivializing what is difficult for a lot of people.
Don't have time to have a healthy breakfast or lunch?
Make it the night before and en masse
Don't have time to exercise?
Go for walks around the office or workplace if you have the chance
You asked about challenges. Examples were given. No one said those challenges preclude success.
The troll is strong with this one.
At what point do "excuses" become challenges then. Where is that line?
I am sorry but when you are trying to maintain a house, working a 10 hour shift and starting a family those "excuses" qualify as challenges. We all have been through highschool, I can assure you....you have not experienced true stress yet. Your body is in peak form at your age, your energy level is at its highest it will ever be, you have the fewest responsibilities you will ever have in the rest of your adult life.
You perceive things as not being difficult because you have nothing in your life that makes them difficult.
Is weight loss or fitness complicated? No. But it, like anything, takes time...and time becomes a lot more precious at 30-65 than at 18.
I'm 40, a wife, a mother of two teens, work full-time.........................
...................and I used to make excuses as to why I couldn't lose weight. The truth was that I hadn't figured out how to do it. Once I figured it out, it was actually pretty easy.
I'm still kicking myself that I spent all those years making excuses instead of putting in the work to research, learn, and figure out the math and science of it.
I'm making the progress I want to be too, doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a heck of a lot easier for me to do so when I was 18. How about you?
I agree that many people make it harder for themselves than they need to - undereating, limiting foods, etc. But it doesn't mean that it's easy to make or sustain the changes that are needed. After awhile, for many of us, it becomes habit and a part of our lives. But don't underestimate the trial and error it took to get you there either.
Yep. It's the "trial and error" that is the *hard* part. That's the time spent "figuring it out." And once it's figured out, and you make it a habit, it's not so hard.
I agree that the OP could have used better wording, but the base point is there.
Why does it take so long for so many people to "figure it out?" I mean, it took me *years* to even recognize the fact that I needed to lose weight at all. I didn't even realize that I was obese, so fat that I couldn't even fit correctly in a chair at the movie theater. :blushing: :blushing:0 -
Oh and by the way, a lot if you are being ageist.
I love how direct and strong young people are. I respect what they've got to say, they quite often haven't had the nasty knock backs that make the rest of us half hearted and weak. I like being around people like that.
:yawn:
Yeah, I liked to bang 18 year olds too.
Granted I was also 18, but hey, who wants to grow up.
Ladylike! I'm a teacher at a college. I understand how these people work. Really mature btw! Keep at it!
So is suggesting I am not ladylike or mature supposed to be insults? Because being insulted by middle/past middle age men with a zest for young people is kind of OK with me.0 -
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As a 40 year old woman, I found losing weight to be pretty straight-forward and simple. The weight didn't come flying off quickly, but it was steady, reliable and generally easy for me this time around.
My past efforts to lose were difficult and destined for failure because I over-complicated everything with diets, huge calorie deficits, and long lists of forbidden foods. If I went off my rigid track even a little, it always snowballed into a return to the bad habit of overeating all the time and proclaiming myself a failure.
As soon as I realized that all I needed to do is cut a minimal amount of calories from my daily intake (250 in my case) and work harder at moving throughout the day, everything else fell into place. I continued to eat all my favorite foods (not even the diet/light versions). Most days I ate over 2000 calories and still lost consistently. I went from 202 to 152 (my initial goal weight) in about eight months. I went on to lose another 16 pounds over six more months, before finally settling around 136 lbs. (I'm almost 5'9"). I've hovered between 135-140 for a little over two years now.
I don't want to minimize anyone else's struggles because we're all different. But for me, it was easy.0 -
No problem! Work is slow right now...LOLYeah sorry it appears I butted in on everyone's game of tease the little kid ... my bad.0 -
Those aren't challenges, those are excuses
You have all the tools available to you that you need to complete your goal. Responsibility and stress aren't reasons to not develop healthy habitsYou're in high school and have zero life responsibilities and associated stressors.
Grow up and stop trivializing what is difficult for a lot of people.
Don't have time to have a healthy breakfast or lunch?
Make it the night before and en masse
Don't have time to exercise?
Go for walks around the office or workplace if you have the chance
You asked about challenges. Examples were given. No one said those challenges preclude success.
The troll is strong with this one.
At what point do "excuses" become challenges then. Where is that line?
I am sorry but when you are trying to maintain a house, working a 10 hour shift and starting a family those "excuses" qualify as challenges. We all have been through highschool, I can assure you....you have not experienced true stress yet. Your body is in peak form at your age, your energy level is at its highest it will ever be, you have the fewest responsibilities you will ever have in the rest of your adult life.
You perceive things as not being difficult because you have nothing in your life that makes them difficult.
Is weight loss or fitness complicated? No. But it, like anything, takes time...and time becomes a lot more precious at 30-65 than at 18.
I'm 40, a wife, a mother of two teens, work full-time.........................
...................and I used to make excuses as to why I couldn't lose weight. The truth was that I hadn't figured out how to do it. Once I figured it out, it was actually pretty easy.
I'm still kicking myself that I spent all those years making excuses instead of putting in the work to research, learn, and figure out the math and science of it.
I'm making the progress I want to be too, doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a heck of a lot easier for me to do so when I was 18. How about you?
At 18 I was running 3-5 miles three times a week and in the gym twice a week. I didn't *need* to lose weight until my twenties. I gained 90 pounds with my first pregnancy, then another 60ish pounds with my second. I had c-sections with both of them and was told not to exercise for a while. I waited about 15 years. :laugh:
I wasn't told not to exercise and I waited two. I just didn't have the time or the sleep to do it before then. Not excuses. Reasons.
I had my reasons too.
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Stop feeding the troll! He's trying to stay within his MFP alotted daily calorie goal!0
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All of this "he's 18 and I'm 4o, 41, 42, 45" implies an inherent difference in BIOLOGY in aged people that makes it hard.
Besides my injuries I have to consider when choosing exercise I wasn't aware that there was some biological or physical state that my age bestows on me that nullifies CI/CO? I thought as far as I don't have PCOS or thyroid problems which are rare, I have the same methods as any other human. Am I misinformed? Have I misread hundreds of threads?0 -
Oh and by the way, a lot if you are being ageist.
I love how direct and strong young people are. I respect what they've got to say, they quite often haven't had the nasty knock backs that make the rest of us half hearted and weak. I like being around people like that.
/eye roll
I'm a higher education lecturer. I love it when I see them later in life and their youthful arrogance has weathered them through this ****storm called life.
Adults are pretty frikkin rubbish sometimes.
Am I reading too far into this or are you coming off as someone who has a fetish for youth?
As much as I'd like to leave this discussion now (I feel a bit sick), maybe I've just had different experiences than you guys, I've lost a lot of people in my life, and seen a lot of people not realise their dreams. I used to be really critical towards young people, but nowadays I just let them enjoy feeling immortal, because life is short, and quite often miserable. Being 18 goes by in a flash, and tbh quite often we are more idealistic at that age. I think it's sad how people get ground down by the 9-5. I feel I've avoided that and try to keep an open mind now.
Let's say I have a fetish for free thinking, and free thinkers tend to be younger, without responsibilities.0 -
<Ducking as I write this>
As a 40 year old woman, I found losing weight to be pretty straight-forward and simple. The weight didn't come flying off quickly, but it was steady, reliable and generally easy for me this time around.
My past efforts to lose were difficult and destined for failure because I over-complicated everything with diets, huge calorie deficits, and long lists of forbidden foods. If I went off my rigid track even a little, it always snowballed into a return to the bad habit of overeating all the time and proclaiming myself a failure.
As soon as I realized that all I needed to do is cut a minimal amount of calories from my daily intake (250 in my case) and work harder at moving throughout the day, everything else fell into place. I continued to eat all my favorite foods (not even the diet/light versions). Most days I ate over 2000 calories and still lost consistently. I went from 202 to 152 (my initial goal weight) in about eight months. I went on to lose another 16 pounds over six more months, before finally settling around 136 lbs. (I'm almost 5'9"). I've hovered between 135-140 for a little over two years now.
I don't want to minimize anyone else's struggles because we're all different. But for me, it was easy.
Well I will come out swinging at you and say....yeah for me it is easy to. However unlike our friend here I have enough experience to recognize the challenges and enough empathy to sympathize with them.0 -
It took me 15 minutes to figure it out.
Those aren't challenges, those are excuses
You have all the tools available to you that you need to complete your goal. Responsibility and stress aren't reasons to not develop healthy habitsYou're in high school and have zero life responsibilities and associated stressors.
Grow up and stop trivializing what is difficult for a lot of people.
Don't have time to have a healthy breakfast or lunch?
Make it the night before and en masse
Don't have time to exercise?
Go for walks around the office or workplace if you have the chance
You asked about challenges. Examples were given. No one said those challenges preclude success.
The troll is strong with this one.
At what point do "excuses" become challenges then. Where is that line?
I am sorry but when you are trying to maintain a house, working a 10 hour shift and starting a family those "excuses" qualify as challenges. We all have been through highschool, I can assure you....you have not experienced true stress yet. Your body is in peak form at your age, your energy level is at its highest it will ever be, you have the fewest responsibilities you will ever have in the rest of your adult life.
You perceive things as not being difficult because you have nothing in your life that makes them difficult.
Is weight loss or fitness complicated? No. But it, like anything, takes time...and time becomes a lot more precious at 30-65 than at 18.
I'm 40, a wife, a mother of two teens, work full-time.........................
...................and I used to make excuses as to why I couldn't lose weight. The truth was that I hadn't figured out how to do it. Once I figured it out, it was actually pretty easy.
I'm still kicking myself that I spent all those years making excuses instead of putting in the work to research, learn, and figure out the math and science of it.
I'm making the progress I want to be too, doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a heck of a lot easier for me to do so when I was 18. How about you?
I agree that many people make it harder for themselves than they need to - undereating, limiting foods, etc. But it doesn't mean that it's easy to make or sustain the changes that are needed. After awhile, for many of us, it becomes habit and a part of our lives. But don't underestimate the trial and error it took to get you there either.
Yep. It's the "trial and error" that is the *hard* part. That's the time spent "figuring it out." And once it's figured out, and you make it a habit, it's not so hard.
I agree that the OP could have used better wording, but the base point is there.
Why does it take so long for so many people to "figure it out?" I mean, it took me *years* to even recognize the fact that I needed to lose weight at all. I didn't even realize that I was obese, so fat that I couldn't even fit correctly in a chair at the movie theater. :blushing: :blushing:
I guess I'm ignorant :sad:0 -
I've always read and heard about people complaining about weight loss being too difficult, or that it's too complicated. I'm on day 48 of my weight loss "journey" if you wish to call it that, and there's been absolutely zero challenges I've faced. I lift weights 3-4 days a week, and eat at a 500 calorie deficit and I've lost 16 pounds.
So what's the big deal with weight loss? Why is it considered to be so impossible?
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I've always read and heard about people complaining about weight loss being too difficult, or that it's too complicated. I'm on day 48 of my weight loss "journey" if you wish to call it that, and there's been absolutely zero challenges I've faced. I lift weights 3-4 days a week, and eat at a 500 calorie deficit and I've lost 16 pounds.
So what's the big deal with weight loss? Why is it considered to be so impossible?
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You're right, losing weight isn't complicated - exercise and eat less than you're burning. But putting it into practice isn't always easy.
That's great that you haven't had to face challenges, but I believe you are the exception, not the rule Some people aren't ready to fully commit or there could be health issues that cause them to stall. Sometimes life gets in the way (stress, jobs, kids, etc) and sometimes (this is me) people just really like junk food and over eat :laugh:
Exactly^^^^ Simple, but not always easy.0 -
youre not alone. once you figure out that you really want it and how to do it, its simple. the hardest part is not drinking it all away on the weekends, but then again, OP is still underage so he's still got a year (or 3 depending on where he lives) to figure that one out<Ducking as I write this>
As a 40 year old woman, I found losing weight to be pretty straight-forward and simple. The weight didn't come flying off quickly, but it was steady, reliable and generally easy for me this time around.
My past efforts to lose were difficult and destined for failure because I over-complicated everything with diets, huge calorie deficits, and long lists of forbidden foods. If I went off my rigid track even a little, it always snowballed into a return to the bad habit of overeating all the time and proclaiming myself a failure.
As soon as I realized that all I needed to do is cut a minimal amount of calories from my daily intake (250 in my case) and work harder at moving throughout the day, everything else fell into place. I continued to eat all my favorite foods (not even the diet/light versions). Most days I ate over 2000 calories and still lost consistently. I went from 202 to 152 (my initial goal weight) in about eight months. I went on to lose another 16 pounds over six more months, before finally settling around 136 lbs. (I'm almost 5'9"). I've hovered between 135-140 for a little over two years now.
I don't want to minimize anyone else's struggles because we're all different. But for me, it was easy.0 -
All of this he's 18 and I'm 4o, 41, 42, 45 implies an inherent difference in BIOLOGY in aged people that makes it hard.
Besides my injuries I have to consider when choosing exercise I wasn't aware that there was some biological or physical state that my age bestows on me that nullifies CI/CO? I thought as far as I don't have PCOS or thyroid problems which are rare, I have the same methods as any other human. Am I misinformed? Have I misread hundreds of threads?
I agree with OP that calories in calories out is all there is to it, that conceptually it is easy. I disagree that as an adult balancing your own personal needs with your responsibilities to others is "easy".
The backlash is largely centered on OP's lack of life experience and overall smugness and arrogance.0 -
<Ducking as I write this>
As a 40 year old woman, I found losing weight to be pretty straight-forward and simple. The weight didn't come flying off quickly, but it was steady, reliable and generally easy for me this time around.
My past efforts to lose were difficult and destined for failure because I over-complicated everything with diets, huge calorie deficits, and long lists of forbidden foods. If I went off my rigid track even a little, it always snowballed into a return to the bad habit of overeating all the time and proclaiming myself a failure.
As soon as I realized that all I needed to do is cut a minimal amount of calories from my daily intake (250 in my case) and work harder at moving throughout the day, everything else fell into place. I continued to eat all my favorite foods (not even the diet/light versions). Most days I ate over 2000 calories and still lost consistently. I went from 202 to 152 (my initial goal weight) in about eight months. I went on to lose another 16 pounds over six more months, before finally settling around 136 lbs. (I'm almost 5'9"). I've hovered between 135-140 for a little over two years now.
I don't want to minimize anyone else's struggles because we're all different. But for me, it was easy.
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I think the bolded part is what at least a large percentage of the people in this thread are experiencing or referring to.0 -
:drinker: :laugh:I think the majority of us are reading this laughing to ourselves quietly because we know they're trolling
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Oh my gosh, yes.
Despite the biological differences in a kid versus an adult, despite the free time, lack of responsibilities, etc - DRINKING. Every time I blow my calorie intake it's because of the wine.
Poor little munchkin can't even begin to understand.0 -
I've always read and heard about people complaining about weight loss being too difficult, or that it's too complicated. I'm on day 48 of my weight loss "journey" if you wish to call it that, and there's been absolutely zero challenges I've faced. I lift weights 3-4 days a week, and eat at a 500 calorie deficit and I've lost 16 pounds.
So what's the big deal with weight loss? Why is it considered to be so impossible?
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It took me 15 minutes to figure it out.
Those aren't challenges, those are excuses
You have all the tools available to you that you need to complete your goal. Responsibility and stress aren't reasons to not develop healthy habitsYou're in high school and have zero life responsibilities and associated stressors.
Grow up and stop trivializing what is difficult for a lot of people.
Don't have time to have a healthy breakfast or lunch?
Make it the night before and en masse
Don't have time to exercise?
Go for walks around the office or workplace if you have the chance
You asked about challenges. Examples were given. No one said those challenges preclude success.
The troll is strong with this one.
At what point do "excuses" become challenges then. Where is that line?
I am sorry but when you are trying to maintain a house, working a 10 hour shift and starting a family those "excuses" qualify as challenges. We all have been through highschool, I can assure you....you have not experienced true stress yet. Your body is in peak form at your age, your energy level is at its highest it will ever be, you have the fewest responsibilities you will ever have in the rest of your adult life.
You perceive things as not being difficult because you have nothing in your life that makes them difficult.
Is weight loss or fitness complicated? No. But it, like anything, takes time...and time becomes a lot more precious at 30-65 than at 18.
I'm 40, a wife, a mother of two teens, work full-time.........................
...................and I used to make excuses as to why I couldn't lose weight. The truth was that I hadn't figured out how to do it. Once I figured it out, it was actually pretty easy.
I'm still kicking myself that I spent all those years making excuses instead of putting in the work to research, learn, and figure out the math and science of it.
I'm making the progress I want to be too, doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a heck of a lot easier for me to do so when I was 18. How about you?
I agree that many people make it harder for themselves than they need to - undereating, limiting foods, etc. But it doesn't mean that it's easy to make or sustain the changes that are needed. After awhile, for many of us, it becomes habit and a part of our lives. But don't underestimate the trial and error it took to get you there either.
Yep. It's the "trial and error" that is the *hard* part. That's the time spent "figuring it out." And once it's figured out, and you make it a habit, it's not so hard.
I agree that the OP could have used better wording, but the base point is there.
Why does it take so long for so many people to "figure it out?" I mean, it took me *years* to even recognize the fact that I needed to lose weight at all. I didn't even realize that I was obese, so fat that I couldn't even fit correctly in a chair at the movie theater. :blushing: :blushing:
I guess I'm ignorant :sad:
When did you start paying attention to how much time had passed? Everything takes 15 minutes if you only take into account the last 15 minutes.0
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