Mothers raising the next generation of fat kids
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The smash cake is a little cake you give to a one year old on their birthday so they can eat with their fingers, and not ruin cake for everyone else. It mostly ends up on their face and in their hair. They eat very little of it. Hence why it's called a smash cake.
Some diets are better then others, but feeding a child a diet that does not conform to your ideals (generic you) does not make it a bad diet. Bad parents do know who they are, bad parents just don't care. That is why they are bad parents.FACT - There will always be parents out there that should not be parents...for many reasons other than what they feed their kids (though, without a doubt, this can be concerning in some circumstances.) Unfortunately, these parents will never know who they are.I agree with you 100%. my son is 18months and has never had chocolate or anything like that. he eats healthier then I do! Its always those mothers that try and justify it by saying oh my kid doesnt like veggies... that sounds more like a parenting problem to me!
Poor kid. chocolate is yummy.. I really really hope you did the smash cake for his 1st birthday. That's a rite of passage.. denying your kid treats such as chocolate just means he will eat a ton when mommy isn't around. sorry, but that's the plain truth of it. My son has never been restricted from eating treats (quantity was limited before though), and now he moderates himself.
Welcome to the club! *pulls up second chair* We have cookies here. :drinker:Wow, I must be a terrible mother - I have a pic of my son on my Facebook with Nutella smeared all over his face...
We were raised without sugar cereal and pop, it was forbidden. Yes we sneaked it when we could but it never came close to what other kids had daily. And it showed. They grew up skinny, small and lethargic. Fast forward: my nephews were raised the opposite way (my brother had no say in it) and were given ice cream every night, 2-3x the calories of their dinners. Plus she bakes all the time. Unfortunately it shows in their size. The oldest is 18 now and is about a foot shorter than all his friends. His mother is a firm believer in "don't deny them treats" and so is her mother. I always knew when her parents were visiting because you walk in the house and the counter is covered in chips, soda, skittles, chocolate, cheap grocery store cupcakes and trash, and the kids were sprawled on the couch, in glycemic stupor. Sure chocolate is yummy, but that's no reason to give it to kids all the time. And I've never heard of the smash cake tradition - haha. That's why we have so much childhood obesity and diabetes. Our portions are out of control. Allergies are popping up all over. It's really sad. One of my nephews became a picky eater because he is addicted to sugar. He won't eat anything that doesn't taste like candy. Make a baloney sandwich and he'll cry in terror until his mom caves in and fixes him what he wants. Not happening.
Don't get me wrong.. I am not a fan of sugar. I hate the way too much sugar affect me and my son.. I cut out as much added sugar as I can. But to say that people who give their kids sugar or treats are bad parents is ludicrous. If the kids eat nothing but, then the parents are poor nutritionists, not bad parents. There is nothing wrong with having and giving the kids treats.. even young ones. There is a line where it's probably not nutritionally sound to do so, but that doesn't make you a bad parent or indicate that you don't care for your kids. I raised my son eating all that stuff and he's thin, healthy and full of energy. He's never been fat. You think sweets stunted their growth?? that's interesting. I have never looked into that correlation..
no.. eating sweets is not why we have an obesity problem. Over eating in general is why we have an obesity problem. Allergies are not popping up all over because people eat too much or too may sweets as children. Allergies occur for an entirely different reason.
While i'm not a fan of added sugars, i'm also realistic about it.0 -
Your peek at people is only a peek. You can't assume the entire diet of a child based on goofy Facebook updates or a family dining out. Focus on your kid/kids and stop expending so much emotional energy on something that isn't within your control and, frankly, not your business.
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Get over it? Need abit of everything I say ... They are CHILDREN let em live and not obsess over diet.0
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Meanwhile, someone, somewhere is having an actual problem.
This..
Or improving their grammar.0 -
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We were raised without sugar cereal and pop, it was forbidden. Yes we sneaked it when we could but it never came close to what other kids had daily. And it showed. They grew up skinny, small and lethargic. Fast forward: my nephews were raised the opposite way (my brother had no say in it) and were given ice cream every night, 2-3x the calories of their dinners. Plus she bakes all the time. Unfortunately it shows in their size. The oldest is 18 now and is about a foot shorter than all his friends. His mother is a firm believer in "don't deny them treats" and so is her mother. I always knew when her parents were visiting because you walk in the house and the counter is covered in chips, soda, skittles, chocolate, cheap grocery store cupcakes and trash, and the kids were sprawled on the couch, in glycemic stupor. Sure chocolate is yummy, but that's no reason to give it to kids all the time. And I've never heard of the smash cake tradition - haha. That's why we have so much childhood obesity and diabetes. Our portions are out of control. Allergies are popping up all over. It's really sad. One of my nephews became a picky eater because he is addicted to sugar. He won't eat anything that doesn't taste like candy. Make a baloney sandwich and he'll cry in terror until his mom caves in and fixes him what he wants. Not happening.
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Years ago while eating w/ some friends, their child was just a few months old and I saw him taking sugar and smearing it on her gums...I was shocked!
He laughed like it was funny & used the excuse that she was teething...he could've found other ways of helping the child with that problem.
I've had many kids come through my home and were picky about eating good food because at their house they get greasy, high caloric foods and then want to know whats for dessert :noway:
For example: Taco salads/bowls is well balanced...even making a buffet of different toppings.
Baked potatoes, same concept as above...using different toppings.
Sometimes people really do have/get an I don't care kind of air or attitude because other things are on a higher priority chart for them & sometimes that's at the expense of the child(ren).
I cared for my friends daughters for 1 yr, that next yr when the oldest was 12 and the youngest was 5, instead of paying me the $20 for 2nd shift (yes, I was charging that much because although she worked at a good job, she was still a single parent), she started to let them stay home.
She said she was too tired to pick them up after work so she was ok with this.
Not knowing what a 12 yr old was cooking up to eat, I stopped over there and she said "Mom leaves us $20 every day for us to order out."
Not only were the girls safe with us but they had a home cooked meal at our house.
She now has 3 girls and the middle & younger 1 are pretty big for their height/age.
Lets just say that theyre even particular about what kind of candy/junk they like!
If you don't have what they like then they whine, cry, complain etc till they get what their pallets have become accustomed to.
It really is sad...then Ive had other parents say "Johnny came home & said he had a baked potato with broccoli on it, how did you get him to eat it?"
Or "Susy said she had chili but at home she refuses to eat chili with beans and will only let me buy chili with no beans."
Because they got to add whatever toppings (cheese, sour cream, crackers etc) to make it her own!
Kids are more willing to eat/try new/different/good/healthy things when it's more in their control of choice.
Cheese in moderation is good which my husband doesn't care for cauliflower but sprinkle a little parmesan on it and he's as happy as a lark!0 -
We were raised without sugar cereal and pop, it was forbidden. Yes we sneaked it when we could but it never came close to what other kids had daily. And it showed. They grew up skinny, small and lethargic. Fast forward: my nephews were raised the opposite way (my brother had no say in it) and were given ice cream every night, 2-3x the calories of their dinners. Plus she bakes all the time. Unfortunately it shows in their size. The oldest is 18 now and is about a foot shorter than all his friends. His mother is a firm believer in "don't deny them treats" and so is her mother. I always knew when her parents were visiting because you walk in the house and the counter is covered in chips, soda, skittles, chocolate, cheap grocery store cupcakes and trash, and the kids were sprawled on the couch, in glycemic stupor. Sure chocolate is yummy, but that's no reason to give it to kids all the time. And I've never heard of the smash cake tradition - haha. That's why we have so much childhood obesity and diabetes. Our portions are out of control. Allergies are popping up all over. It's really sad. One of my nephews became a picky eater because he is addicted to sugar. He won't eat anything that doesn't taste like candy. Make a baloney sandwich and he'll cry in terror until his mom caves in and fixes him what he wants. Not happening.
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Sorry about that...the top part was a quote from someone else but I guess I went back too far!
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Should this even be on this forum? Its about its members reaching their goals, not about parenting...
Ah, but once you have reduced in mass, you become an expert in any given topic and assume the whole world wants to hear what you think about it.
I couldn't give a toss what people think, I'm a bad parent for allowing my son to chocolate and biscuit and an even worse one for letting him play his DS or read a comic at the table in restaurants whilst waiting for the food. There are reasons for this that cannot be discerned by a judgemental stranger at first glance.
Also, his father has a large role to play in making my son into a weeble (apparently), even if he weren't a stay at home Dad.0 -
Yes i am considered the mean parent because I don't my 'BABY' chocolate and cake and other cr*p like that. I will definitely perfectly fine with him having the odd chocolate bar when he is school aged, and has already ate all his vegies on his plate. And as for the people saying it could only be an every now an than thing on facebook. You are forgetting I am friends with these people, and they put these pics up 'EVERYDAY'! and my son is not under weight, or over weight. He is aloud to eat until he is full, just only healthy foods.
ah your one of those...
My son had cereal and apple sauce before he turned a year old..and apple juice diluted...
He love grilled cheese and chicken fingers and French fries and nuggets growing up...
He is not obese...imagine that...
eating till he's full, why not stop him at satisfied? why wait till he is stuffed? that leads to obesisty and an unhealthy relationship with food, oh btw so does deprivation.
Oh and making him clean his plate...see now we can call you the "clean plate police" which we all know causes issues later in life...
2x your age and raised my own trust me girly you got some stuff to learn...0 -
I complete agree, it makes me want to scream. Hubby's families thought I was crazy when
I wouldn't put cordial/soda/rice cereal in my daughters bottles
Delayed solids until 7-8months
Wouldn't give them Mcdoanlds before 5
They only snacks they can have is fruit/veggie sticks/nuts
My 2 girls are the only kids without weight problems in his whole family!!
Other than no 1, because my children were breast fed and did not have bottles as little babies, they did all the rest.
Started solids at 4- 5 months, had Mcdonalds and similar before age 5, had snacks other than fruit/veggies/nuts.
They are all grown adults now and amazingly, none are overweight!!
Incidentally I also have an old photo of myself covered in ice cream at age 9 months.
I suppose this could of caused myself to be overweight as an adult - but given I did not creep into the overweight category until about age 35, I would have to say the link seems somewhat tenuous.0 -
Yep. People look at me like I'm committing child abuse when I tell my son he can't have something because it isn't healthy. It's pathetic that the worst foods are traditionally considered kids foods. Just look at a restaurant's Kid's Mens: Grilled Cheese, Hamburger, chicken tenders, all with fries. My son has friends who are getting fat and they are just kids. Instead of people seeing it as a problem, people just figure that they are kids and will grow, but they won't grow out of it when they are adults and it can't be the most healthy lifestyle. For anyone who does care; don't get your child food treats, as rewards, or as comforts (like ice cream on a bad day, or pizza after a sports win). This just teaches them habits that they may spend years trying to break.
Kids menus in restaurants is a silly comparison - nobody eats at restaurants all the time.
But Just like adults might have a tasty indulgent meal at a restaurant, so can children.
And children don't have to order from the kids menu anyway - you can order an entrée for them as their meal or share your meal with them or ask for salad instead of fries etc etc.
I'm not fussed by food as a reward either - as long as the overall food is within normal amounts, this is fine to me.
I reward myself with food sometimes.0 -
Yes i am considered the mean parent because I don't my 'BABY' chocolate and cake and other cr*p like that. I will definitely perfectly fine with him having the odd chocolate bar when he is school aged, and has already ate all his vegies on his plate. And as for the people saying it could only be an every now an than thing on facebook. You are forgetting I am friends with these people, and they put these pics up 'EVERYDAY'! and my son is not under weight, or over weight. He is aloud to eat until he is full, just only healthy foods.
ah your one of those...
My son had cereal and apple sauce before he turned a year old..and apple juice diluted...
He love grilled cheese and chicken fingers and French fries and nuggets growing up...
He is not obese...imagine that...
eating till he's full, why not stop him at satisfied? why wait till he is stuffed? that leads to obesisty and an unhealthy relationship with food, oh btw so does deprivation.
Oh and making him clean his plate...see now we can call you the "clean plate police" which we all know causes issues later in life...
2x your age and raised my own trust me girly you got some stuff to learn...
I agree.
I have a 12 year old daughter and the same could be said about her. Ate reasonable amounts of everything and at a healthy weight and a healthy relationship with food.
I also like to think that I taught my daughter that minding your own business is usually a good thing. Getting on a high horse and talking behind friends' backs? Not so much.0 -
I can't judge without knowing how often it happens. My kids got a cake when they turned one too (didn't eat any of it) and started getting sweets at 2 or something... but I was 'that mom' who bought soda for my kids when they were 2.5. I'm sure I got judged for it... nevermind they only got soda maybe 5 times in their whole life (they're 6 now) and that, well, fruit juice isn't much better if you ask me.
I wouldn't give sweets to a baby (how young are we talking?), but once in a while for a 13 month old... sure, why not. My pet peeve is when people have an overweight child and still buy them soda or fast food all the time. I've seen some seriously overweight kids at my kids school (although really not that many!) and frankly I feel really bad for them... but we don't have the whole story either. It could be the one time a month the kids are getting McDonald's. I know a friend whose kid got heavy because of medicine too... and another has twins who eat the same stuff, one is thin and the other is obese.0 -
Guess I'm joining the horrible mother group.... is that like the Group W bench?
My 3 kids have all survived growing up with me.
Now I will say I was a young mother as well and thought I knew better than everyone else and did go to the extreme in the beginning with my oldest 2, I made their baby food, blah blah blah... well those 2 the minute they were with anyone else wanted the chocolate and treats. My 2 oldest have had weight issues, which they have both worked on and maintained their losses for over a year.
I got lazier and not so high and mighty with my 3rd daughter, she had treats in moderation, and you know now if you offer her a bowl of fruit or bowl of ice cream... she's strange and will take the fruit. She's never had a weight issue, she's trying to gain about 10 lbs.
So I've done both sides, and luckily I did learn to get off the high horse and let the kids enjoy all the good food in moderation.
You might want to come down from the high horse since as you get older that fall can truly hurt...0 -
My son is turning a year old in a month. Am I letting him have a smash cake? You bet your *kitten*. Am I going to feel like a terrible mother? No way in hell. Get off your high horse and stop assuming that a treat every now and then will permanently damage a child.
(By the way, I grew up in a household that let us snack frequently, and it wasn't until I hit middle school and became inactive that I got chubby. Not my parents' fault at all.)0 -
Wow, I must be a terrible mother - I have a pic of my son on my Facebook with Nutella smeared all over his face...
Mmmm....Nutella...wait, what were we talking about?0 -
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that the OP is ranting about cake when both his picture and his ticker picture prominently feature guns? I suspect his defense would be he plans to teach his kids to treat guns with respect and to only use them responsibly. Perhaps he should consider applying this same wisdom to cake.0
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Me thinks the OP is a first time mother...I have 3 children (13,7,& 1) and I went your route with the 13 year old. Right now I'm fighting with her and constantly finding stashed junk, candy, and even soda in her room. She buys the soda out of a machine at her school and brings it home in her book bag. It has gotten to the point I no longer give her cash, and if she has her own money I regulate it.
Also, for clarification what are we calling a baby? My youngest is 13 months and she will sometimes have tastes of daddy's ice cream or ginger ale, but the kid will put away a helping of brussel sprouts and a shredded hamburger like no bodies business.0 -
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that the OP is ranting about cake when both his picture and his ticker picture prominently feature guns? I suspect his defense would be he plans to teach his kids to treat guns with respect and to only use them responsibly. Perhaps he should consider applying this same wisdom to cake.
So THIS^^ Wish I had seen it before I posted. LOL0 -
As I tell my kids all the time,
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I let my son eat whatever he wants. Chocolate, Cakes, Soda, KFC - you name it. But I nurture him, encourage his school work, make sure he has an avctive life.
His brother I feed very well. Everything in moderation and in appropriately sized portions. However, I also beat him, keep him in the attic and tell him he's worthless.
I'm trying to find out who turns out best.
I'll let you know in about 15 years. .0 -
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that the OP is ranting about cake when both his picture and his ticker picture prominently feature guns? I suspect his defense would be he plans to teach his kids to treat guns with respect and to only use them responsibly. Perhaps he should consider applying this same wisdom to cake.
First, his profile picture is not a gun. It's a cross-bow (Darryl from Waking Dead), please learn the difference before trying to make a half idiotic argument.
Second, his ticker is the cover of a movie. "Boondock Saints". This in no way, shape, or form shows he is or might be a gun enthusiast.
Perhaps you should apply "wisdom" in general. And I wholly agree with him. I don't want my toddler eating chocolate daily. Birthdays and special occasions are fine. But as a toddler they are growing continually and what goes into their body DOES have an impact on development, despite if you want to realize that or not.... it's fact.0 -
My baby's grandma and grandpa constantly try to give her something. It irritates me to no end. I have to find someone else to babysit because I do not trust them at all. He's been drunk and given her mcdonalds cookies before. I was so pissed.0
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My baby's grandma and grandpa constantly try to give her something. It irritates me to no end. I have to find someone else to babysit because I do not trust them at all. He's been drunk and given her mcdonalds cookies before. I was so pissed.
My mom told me that ice cream is great because it's perfect nutrition for kids.0 -
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that the OP is ranting about cake when both his picture and his ticker picture prominently feature guns? I suspect his defense would be he plans to teach his kids to treat guns with respect and to only use them responsibly. Perhaps he should consider applying this same wisdom to cake.
First, his profile picture is not a gun. It's a cross-bow (Darryl from Waking Dead), please learn the difference before trying to make a half idiotic argument.
Second, his ticker is the cover of a movie. "Boondock Saints". This in no way, shape, or form shows he is or might be a gun enthusiast.
Perhaps you should apply "wisdom" in general. And I wholly agree with him. I don't want my toddler eating chocolate daily. Birthdays and special occasions are fine. But as a toddler they are growing continually and what goes into their body DOES have an impact on development, despite if you want to realize that or not.... it's fact.
I agree with you that in moderation is fine. The OP rant was based on seeing a slice in time where a baby had something sweet. Unless he lives with that baby on a daily basis, he is assuming the worst and determining that sweets are a daily thing when in fact he has no such knowledge. Clearly, my other post was made tongue in cheek to point out that just like the OP is making assumptions about the parenting of others based on a small piece of evidence that others will do the same about him based on things like ticker pictures.0 -
The original poster is a she.0
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Nice job judging people off of facebook... That seems more of a stupid thing to do than to feed your kid a piece of cake every once in a while. This has to be one of the worst rants I've seen on here.0
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Wow, I must be a terrible mother - I have a pic of my son on my Facebook with Nutella smeared all over his face...
And it's adorable. :flowerforyou:
I had a terrible mother - she NEVER gave me Nutella! I guess that's why I ended up fat and on MFP...
That's how this works, right?
Ohh.. I get it now.. Yep.. It's all my mother's fault that I drank too much and ate too much junk during college..
I think we are all taking what she said out of context. She was talking about little babies, not small kids.
We all have those photos. There is a huge difference from doing It every now and then to every day.
^Thank you. Yes I am talking about little babies (Mostly under the age of one, where there digestive system can not process certain foods as good as older kids) also you can't teach a baby about moderation. You control entirely what goes into there mouths. When they can communicate back and understand than give them the chocolate bar, and teach them that it is ok to have a treat every now and than, but too much could lead to diabetes and obesity.
Oh so you see a lot of 3 moth old babies eating hamburgers, fries, and chicken fingers...right go on tell me more. Me thinks somebody was just trying to make up a rant so they could start a post on here. Backfired a bit though.0 -
A lot of people are going to give you crap for this post, but I completely agree.
I've heard parents YELLING at their children to eat their Mcdonald's fries (or something similar) and pretty much jamming it down their kid's protesting throat.
Why does a baby need to be force fed junk?0
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