to all the real runners
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You clearly haven't found your way to the C25K groupI read all four pages and didn't notice if anyone mentioned this, but maybe someone like me would be uncomfortable running outside due to their size and low fitness level? I mean, when you think of a runner, you imagine someone lean and toned and really graceful as they move.
I've heard plenty of horror stories of people, who are not small, just starting out, getting hateful looks from others, nasty comments being tossed their way, and even having garbage chucked at them while they try to run.
Welcome! And this is a pretty fab read:
http://flintland.blogspot.fi/2012/05/hey-fat-girl.html0 -
'bounce in place-ers' - Uh, yeah you can do that if the speed is set on what, like 1-3? So you're power walking with a lot of extra effort to look like running. THAT isn't running. BUT crank up that speed to where you HAVE to keep up or else you're going to fall the **** off, that's running. Sorry dear. When you are moving at a pace faster than you can walk that's running. And you can bounce in place outside just as easy, trust me I see enough of you out door REAL runners in your fitness outfits that are just outside to 'look good'.
This whole discussion seems rather stupid. If you're running at a regular period of time routinely that makes you a runner. Scenery and terrain is what you prefer. As much as you want to keep saying its not it, it does seem like a group of people that want to demean those that only run inside. You want to make those of us that run indoors feel not as 'good' as you (don't say that you aren't because now you want to call us names in your recent post).
Half of American can't even get off the couch or are brave enough to decide to try and live healthy --if one of us is actually running, that's an accomplishment.
What about people that run on sidewalks vs treadmill vs outdoor track, vs indoor track, vs trail, vs park, vs hills, vs country vs suburb area? Where does it end lol
TLDR: Stop being rude.0 -
If you run, you're a runner. I don't think theres any need to further divide...
so you're saying that a marathon runner and a person doing three miles on three treadmill are the same?
Yes, Danny. Or is someone who benches 250# a lifter, but I'm not because I only can bench 80#?
If you run, you're a runner. Be it indoors on a treadmill, indoors on a track, outdoors on a track, the road, or a trail. I also think it had absolutely nothing to do with training for a race. Some just run for the sake of running. Some run to lose weight. Some run for speed. Some run to compete. Some run for all of those reasons and utilize all those modes.
They're all runners.
:flowerforyou: Yes, I was thinking along the same lines as the lifting comment.
ETA: for running (and lifting) not everyone will be at the same level, but I don't think that makes some better than others.0 -
Maybe you should read the whole thread then.i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.0 -
Maybe you should read the whole thread then.i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.
You come off as an absolute *kitten* for not reading his comment/question properly.0 -
This!Honestly,if you give your best effort in running (no matter what pace)then you're a runner.
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speaking of dumb, you sure have a lot of those kinds of opinions.Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run ) indoors or out) then you're a runner.
agreed... on the marathon part. i get a lot of people asking me if i'm doing an iron man or a marathon, the holy grails of endurance sports.* when i tell them that i don't have immediate plans for doing either, they look at me funny. like, whats the point then?
*ultra-marathons are dumb.0 -
'bounce in place-ers' - Uh, yeah you can do that if the speed is set on what, like 1-3? So you're power walking with a lot of extra effort to look like running. THAT isn't running. BUT crank up that speed to where you HAVE to keep up or else you're going to fall the **** off, that's running. Sorry dear. When you are moving at a pace faster than you can walk that's running. And you can bounce in place outside just as easy, trust me I see enough of you out door REAL runners in your fitness outfits that are just outside to 'look good'.
This whole discussion seems rather stupid. If you're running at a regular period of time routinely that makes you a runner. Scenery and terrain is what you prefer. As much as you want to keep saying its not it, it does seem like a group of people that want to demean those that only run inside. You want to make those of us that run indoors feel not as 'good' as you (don't say that you aren't because now you want to call us names in your recent post).
Half of American can't even get off the couch or are brave enough to decide to try and live healthy --if one of us is actually running, that's an accomplishment.
TLDR: Stop being rude.
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How about we just let people call themselves what they'd like and worry about what we want to call ourselves and doing our best to live up to it.
For example, if I want to call myself a runner I'm going to do my best to live up to that. Whether it's indoors or outdoors is irrelevant as long as I'm achieving what what I set out to do (be a runner).
I think if we spent half as much effort concentrating on ourselves as we did on what others are doing we could achieve some even more incredible things than we already do.0 -
i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.
yeah, you should have read the responses, even my own.
no where in my original post am i judging anyone. i am asking if runners that mostly forgo the treadmill judge runners that exclusively use a treadmill.
personally i believe that if you run, you are a runner. however their is a difference in running outside to running indoors, and i advise people to run outdoors as often as they can, especially if they're training for a race.
but i also believe that there are different running communities. so does most of the world, seeing as there are many running events at the olympics. there is not just one medal given out for Running, as there are many short, middle, and long distance events.0 -
I used to be a runner. This was back when I was a teen on the cross country team. I loved it. If I didn't go for a run I felt antsy and trapped. Running made me feel free. Perhaps this is why some feel that real runners run outside. It's different now that I've doubled my lifespan. I'm struggling mentally and it doesn't matter if I'm indoors or out. Although I always prefer outdoors I don't think that this is solely what classifies someone as a "runner". I've experienced both mind sets. I'm running so in that sense I'm a runner. But it does not feel the same and I think it's that feeling that is being addressed. I hope by struggling this out I can get there again.0
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Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run ) indoors or out) then you're a runner.
agreed... on the marathon part. i get a lot of people asking me if i'm doing an iron man or a marathon, the holy grails of endurance sports.* when i tell them that i don't have immediate plans for doing either, they look at me funny. like, whats the point then?
*ultra-marathons are dumb.
I haven't read all the responses here, but I am wondering if you see some hypocrisy. You are saying that treadmill runners are not runners and yet feel judged when you are asked if you are doing an iron man or marathon. Personally, I find the treadmill much easier than running outside, but I am also just starting again, easy is more motivating. I do not, however, consider myself a runner.0 -
please, dear, explain what i'm missing.
Maybe you should read the whole thread then.i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.
You come off as an absolute *kitten* for not reading his comment/question properly.0 -
OK. Though I'm not sure I agree with your premise, at least you have a sense of humour! :flowerforyou: :drinker:Hrm, I run primarily for the weight loss benefits. I run outdoors primarily even if the weather is inclement.
Am I a "real" runner or a "Pinocchio"? (Y' know...only half real) :laugh:
NEVER LIE DURING YOUR RUNS.
You'll have quite the balance issues.0 -
I read all four pages and didn't notice if anyone mentioned this, but maybe someone like me would be uncomfortable running outside due to their size and low fitness level? I mean, when you think of a runner, you imagine someone lean and toned and really graceful as they move.do you ever find yourself in a conversation with someone who says they run, only to find out that it's only on the treadmill? do you immediately dismiss them as not being a real runner?
i'm not talking about jumping on the treadmill when the weather is too extreme to run outside, or for a warm up to cross/strength train. i mean the people that drive to the gym or go to their basement/garage/spare bedroom to only run on a treadmill 365 days a year.
I've heard plenty of horror stories of people, who are not small, just starting out, getting hateful looks from others, nasty comments being tossed their way, and even having garbage chucked at them while they try to run.
Maybe they feel safer inside on a treadmill in their own home, rather than going outside where people can see them? My husband goes with me on most of my walks, and whenever I jog at all, its with him because I feel safer with him there. If I had a treadmill at home, I'd probably run a lot more on it and as I got smaller, maybe be brave enough to join the "real runners" outside.
I feel like indoors/outdoors, no matter where you do it, if you are always moving at a pace faster than a walk than you can be considered a runner.
There are plenty of over weight runners, we have a local group called the turtles which is mostly over weight people. They are just as fun as any group I've run with, just slower.0 -
I run outside because I enjoy the scenery, the smells, the feel of a gentle spring breeze. I do not enjoy running outside suring the winter months, it is just far too cold. Therefore, I sometimes go inside to run because it keeps me active. I don't think you can call somebody anything in particular or dismiss them as less than you because of the way they do things.
Everybody is different, everybody has different strengths and weaknesses and preferences. If you want to call yourself a runner, sure, go ahead, but it doesn't make any difference in the end. Identify however you like, just try not to judge people on how they decide to exercise, it is just different to how you do it, that's all.0 -
Okay. We're all runners.
But if you have never EVER, EVER run outside....
You're not a REAL runner.
I run inside exclusively. I am a runner. Come at me bro.
I might consider running indoors on a treadmill if it was the one right behind you, because, dat azz!0 -
You clearly haven't found your way to the C25K groupI read all four pages and didn't notice if anyone mentioned this, but maybe someone like me would be uncomfortable running outside due to their size and low fitness level? I mean, when you think of a runner, you imagine someone lean and toned and really graceful as they move.
I've heard plenty of horror stories of people, who are not small, just starting out, getting hateful looks from others, nasty comments being tossed their way, and even having garbage chucked at them while they try to run. Welcome! And this is a pretty fab read:
http://flintland.blogspot.fi/2012/05/hey-fat-girl.html
Posted my first run on the C25K group last night! It's a nice place where everyone feels great sharing even the small victories. Hell, I may not be to a 5k yet but I am a whole lot better off than I was when I was on the couch.0 -
Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run ) indoors or out) then you're a runner.
agreed... on the marathon part. i get a lot of people asking me if i'm doing an iron man or a marathon, the holy grails of endurance sports.* when i tell them that i don't have immediate plans for doing either, they look at me funny. like, whats the point then?
*ultra-marathons are dumb.
I haven't read all the responses here, but I am wondering if you see some hypocrisy. You are saying that treadmill runners are not runners and yet feel judged when you are asked if you are doing an iron man or marathon. Personally, I find the treadmill much easier than running outside, but I am also just starting again, easy is more motivating. I do not, however, consider myself a runner.
i actually responded to what i said there about ultra-marathons:my apologizes. i added that last line for some comedic flair. one book that i credit getting me really into running was "born to run" by christopher mcdougall. i loved the whole zen aspect of running long distances. in a way, i called ultra-marathons dumb because they are soooooooo out of my comfort zone right now. maybe one day, but probably not.
i thought that maybe the way i wrote that comments with the asterisk and the whole subject matter about endurance events, it would be seen a little tongue in cheek.0 -
forgive me for assuming a person who asks a question positing that treadmill runners are not real runners backs up this stance himself.i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.
yeah, you should have read the responses, even my own.
no where in my original post am i judging anyone. i am asking if runners that mostly forgo the treadmill judge runners that exclusively use a treadmill.
personally i believe that if you run, you are a runner. however their is a difference in running outside to running indoors, and i advise people to run outdoors as often as they can, especially if they're training for a race.
but i also believe that there are different running communities. so does most of the world, seeing as there are many running events at the olympics. there is not just one medal given out for Running, as there are many short, middle, and long distance events.0 -
i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.
yeah, you should have read the responses, even my own.
no where in my original post am i judging anyone. i am asking if runners that mostly forgo the treadmill judge runners that exclusively use a treadmill.
personally i believe that if you run, you are a runner. however their is a difference in running outside to running indoors, and i advise people to run outdoors as often as they can, especially if they're training for a race.
but i also believe that there are different running communities. so does most of the world, seeing as there are many running events at the olympics. there is not just one medal given out for Running, as there are many short, middle, and long distance events.
Truth!!!0 -
forgive me for assuming a person who asks a question positing that treadmill runners are not real runners backs up this stance himself.i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.
yeah, you should have read the responses, even my own.
no where in my original post am i judging anyone. i am asking if runners that mostly forgo the treadmill judge runners that exclusively use a treadmill.
personally i believe that if you run, you are a runner. however their is a difference in running outside to running indoors, and i advise people to run outdoors as often as they can, especially if they're training for a race.
but i also believe that there are different running communities. so does most of the world, seeing as there are many running events at the olympics. there is not just one medal given out for Running, as there are many short, middle, and long distance events.
no worries.
and i didn't say that treadmill runners are not real runners. i asked if people think that.0 -
Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run ) indoors or out) then you're a runner.
agreed... on the marathon part. i get a lot of people asking me if i'm doing an iron man or a marathon, the holy grails of endurance sports.* when i tell them that i don't have immediate plans for doing either, they look at me funny. like, whats the point then?
*ultra-marathons are dumb.
I plan on doing an ultra next year.0 -
I might consider running indoors on a treadmill if it was the one right behind you, because, dat azz!
:blushing: Aww shucks
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*ultra-marathons are dumb.
voted #1, as THE most stupid post ever0 -
Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run ) indoors or out) then you're a runner.
agreed... on the marathon part. i get a lot of people asking me if i'm doing an iron man or a marathon, the holy grails of endurance sports.* when i tell them that i don't have immediate plans for doing either, they look at me funny. like, whats the point then?
*ultra-marathons are dumb.
I plan on doing an ultra next year.
better you than me dude. my knee cringes in pain just reading the words.0 -
To be honest, a runner to me is someone who trains for some form of race...whether it's 5k or marathon.
Wow! I run 3x a week, anywhere from 5-7K each time, but have yet to train for a race or participate in one. Nor do I want to. I enjoy the run, the neighbourhood, the achievement. I am a runner.
The above definition is much too exclusive. If you run, you're a runner, regardless of where you run, how far you run or whether you officially enter a race or not.
OP, there was a time when I would not have felt comfortable running outside. It takes time to find what works for each individual and sometimes that's the treadmill.0 -
k. so your thread title itself was just purposely instigating, which makes me conclude we have a troll on our hands.
forgive me for assuming a person who asks a question positing that treadmill runners are not real runners backs up this stance himself.i've only read the OP, not the rest of the posts, so i hope someone else has said this, but boy is that ****ing arrogant as all hell. I rotate outside running with treadmill running as it's easier on my knees and hips. you come off as an absolute *kitten* calling everyone who runs on the treadmill not a real runner.
bad form, man.
yeah, you should have read the responses, even my own.
no where in my original post am i judging anyone. i am asking if runners that mostly forgo the treadmill judge runners that exclusively use a treadmill.
personally i believe that if you run, you are a runner. however their is a difference in running outside to running indoors, and i advise people to run outdoors as often as they can, especially if they're training for a race.
but i also believe that there are different running communities. so does most of the world, seeing as there are many running events at the olympics. there is not just one medal given out for Running, as there are many short, middle, and long distance events.
no worries.
and i didn't say that treadmill runners are not real runners. i asked if people think that.0 -
*ultra-marathons are dumb.
voted #1, as THE most stupid post ever
the internet hasn't been around that long yet. give it time.0 -
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