How do you feel about fat pride?
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I need to leave this thread before I go insane
Too late...
indeed
too *kitten* true0 -
I am fat and healthy. The only thing that was deemed unhealthy was my weight. I feel that if someone is happy in their own skin, good for them. If there are no health problems, and they like what they see when looking in the mirror, that's a beautiful thing. I wish everyone regardless of size could have that kind of self love.
I was too, for many many years, until it caught up with me...
then, I had high blood pressure. well, this lead to kidney disease. now that I lost weight, I no longer have bp, but will have the kidney disease the rest of my life & have to take the bp meds because of the kd the rest of my life. I also have other medical issues related to the choices I made while I was overweight/obese really - they didn't develop until I was older.
ya know the saying... if I knew then what I know now??? that applies to my life... :flowerforyou:0 -
I need to leave this thread before I go insane
Too late...
indeed
too *kitten* true
Hehe. I have ish that pushes my buttons like that, too.0 -
Being fat isn't always the same as being unhealthy. Being thin isn't always healthy.
Fat pride seems to be about tying self esteem to something BESIDES your weight just as Black Pride isn't about black supremacy and Gay Pride isn't about an anti-straight agenda.
I think its healthy and, if anything, can be far more motivating when it comes to healthy behavior than fat shaming.
I agree with this right here. I think I would do far better if I was at least content with myself, rather than being so unhappy with myself. If someone is fat and has a high self esteem and they are happy...all the more power to them. I'm envious, in fact.
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I have seen "fat pride" get to the point of skinny shaming.
Me too and that is not cool either
yeah me too... who'da thunk?
typically its going to a pool and having a six pack and getting ragged on by friends for being anorexic to get (anorexic is supposedly people who don't consume 2 beers daily, and don't count calories)
and shoppping... you try shoppping for a seersucker suit in a 28" waist.. it is totally not cool.0 -
Great post0
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Here is why I need fat acceptance:
Bodies are ever-changing, wonderful creations.
I am very fat. Super fat. And I am working to change that, as I’ve realized that over the years I turned to emotional binge eating as a way to deal with trauma.
But here’s the thing, everyone who thinks that shaming will make people lose weight: It didn’t. At all.
Every time someone told me I was worthless and too fat, I ate more. I didn’t think, “Oh, I’ll show them, I’m going to lose tons of weight!” My thought process was, “Well, they’re right. And that’s never going to change.”
Hell, someone on a fitness forum once told me there was no point in losing weight because I’d wrecked my body forever.
Accepting my body as it is now gives me the passion and drive to succeed. It what’s get me to the gym every day. What better thought it is to have than, “Hey, isn’t it amazing that my huge body can still do everything I need it to do?”
Asserting that someone is worthless because of their size does not get them to the gym. Telling them that their body can do so much more if they want it to is a much better tactic.
Just because I am fat and I exercise and diet does not make me any better than any other fat person. I am just using myself as an example to show how I have dealt with people calling me names and insulting me over the years.
It wasn’t until I could truly love myself as I am now that I could accept that I could change and that I was worthy of the effort.
Even if I lose a lot of weight, I will never really be skinny. Like that guy on the forums said, my body is changed forever. And that’s okay. What’s important is that I am comfortable in my own skin, and for me personally, that means losing weight. For others, it doesn’t.
And that’s okay.0 -
:noway:I knew I should not read this thread its filled with so much disgusting that I cannot even deal right now
also just want to point out that I am currently fat and considered perfectly healthy (aside from my chronic illnesses that I have no matter what my size or "health")
just because when you were fat you were miserable DOES NOT MEAN EVERY FAT PERSON IS MISERABLE YOU ARE NOT THEM YOU DO NOT KNOW THEM YOU WILL NEVER KNOW your experience does not equal someone elses. Just because you were not happy does not mean they cannot be perfectly happy as a 300 pound person. Just because you think they do not deserve to be happy and you think they need to change their body you think their body is not good DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE TO CHANGE (to fit what you see as okay to fit what you think is healthy to fit what you think is acceptable) HOLY SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!T
people need to stop thinking their opinions of other peoples bodies and health actually matter . people need to stop projecting their own self hate on to other people and their own body expectations on to other people
just stop fat acceptance is extremely needed and anyone who says otherwise needs to shut up sit down and mind their own damn business
^yeah you sure don't sound miserable
I want whatever she's doing!
seriously tho, no one is being mean to fat people, I think its obesity itself that we are nailing down as the culprit. Individuals should always be shown empathy... I myself at one point was fat... at 5'10" I weighed 180lbs ... and I was MISERABLE.
lol hahahahah
wow
you get "miserable" out of what I said ...why even bother
heres you go
I got a great deal out of what you said.. fat acceptance tho? #watdafaq?
and unless you are 7'+ you are not happy in a 300 lb body... impossible.
...it reminds me of obese preachers... if they can't have enough self-control over their eating habits they shouldn't be coaching us on their view of the stairway to heaven.
and lighten up brah.. and smile. :bigsmile:0 -
The other irony to this whole conversation of fat pride is no one I think has mentioned you have to love yourself to give a crap enough about being healthy. When you don't care about yourself you don't see the point in doing anything to improve your situation. Therefore I think if "fat acceptance" focused on anti-bullying, loving yourself, and mental health I could rock with it.0
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The other irony to this whole conversation of fat pride is no one I think has mentioned you have to love yourself to give a crap enough about being healthy. When you don't care about yourself you don't see the point in doing anything to improve your situation. Therefore I think if "fat acceptance" focused on anti-bullying, loving yourself, and mental health I could rock with it.
word.
so true... one doesn't love themselves if they don't take care of the only home they will be living in within their entire time on this planet.
and if one doesn't love themselves they will not be happy. happy is a lifestyle, for obese people its just a fleeting moment.0 -
Here is why I need fat acceptance:
Bodies are ever-changing, wonderful creations.
I am very fat. Super fat. And I am working to change that, as I’ve realized that over the years I turned to emotional binge eating as a way to deal with trauma.
But here’s the thing, everyone who thinks that shaming will make people lose weight: It didn’t. At all.
Every time someone told me I was worthless and too fat, I ate more. I didn’t think, “Oh, I’ll show them, I’m going to lose tons of weight!” My thought process was, “Well, they’re right. And that’s never going to change.”
Hell, someone on a fitness forum once told me there was no point in losing weight because I’d wrecked my body forever.
Accepting my body as it is now gives me the passion and drive to succeed. It what’s get me to the gym every day. What better thought it is to have than, “Hey, isn’t it amazing that my huge body can still do everything I need it to do?”
Asserting that someone is worthless because of their size does not get them to the gym. Telling them that their body can do so much more if they want it to is a much better tactic.
Just because I am fat and I exercise and diet does not make me any better than any other fat person. I am just using myself as an example to show how I have dealt with people calling me names and insulting me over the years.
It wasn’t until I could truly love myself as I am now that I could accept that I could change and that I was worthy of the effort.
Even if I lose a lot of weight, I will never really be skinny. Like that guy on the forums said, my body is changed forever. And that’s okay. What’s important is that I am comfortable in my own skin, and for me personally, that means losing weight. For others, it doesn’t.
And that’s okay.
That's a positive look on "fat acceptance" she loves herself enough where she wants to do better. I can totally understand how when you do things out of spite they are FAR harder to maintain if you did it for yourself in the first place.0 -
Yes I think fat and healthy can go hand in hand (I can just feel the eyerolls everywhere). Before I get condemned for my oppinion (I can feel it comming), hear me out. I am considered obese, morbidly so, but I work out monday through friday, I watch what I eat, and I make it a point to avoid being rediculous on my off days. However it does not change the fact that I love what I see and I simply want to live longer for my children. I do not want to end up with diabetes like my fathers side of the family and so I choose to have a healthier lifestyle. But it would seem that my body has not caught up with the idea. I dont wear moomoos or anything of the sort. I believe in dressing nice and feeling great about the way I look despite my size, oh and by the way. I am 189 at 5'0", I I am definitly on the heavy side. My self esteem and fat pride is based on the type of person I am. That is what fat pride is about. It says that no matter how big I am I am still beautiful and am still sexy and I am still an awesome person. It is not glorifying over indulgence in food and being lazy about your health. It just means that "fat" is a matter, not a personality trait0
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My biggest concern with total self-acceptance regardless of what self-destructive behaviors we have is that it trickles down to our children. I'm a high school science teacher, and I have watched the obesity problem explode over the past 10 years. It used to be almost unheard of to have a student too large to fit in a desk/chair combination seat. Now, the school has to replace all of those combo seats because too many students can't fit in them. The kids blame the seats.
Bullying should not be tolerated in any manner.
Kids do, however, have to learn that their behaviors lead to their problems. If I accept inactivity, poor diet choices, and obesity, I'm teaching my children to accept this as a way of life for themselves. The problem then perpetuates.
yeah consequences for each and every decision made, even passive or choosing to not choose is a choice and has a consequence... good choices lead to good consequences bad choices lead to ill-mannered consequences.. you'd think this is rocket science to some people...
sad state of affairs in the great USofA
So you think that all overweight people should live in shame and self hatred? Just curious.
have you read anything I've posted on this? :huh:
#getacluedawg
All I read in your posts is someone who has no idea what "fat pride" is about.
You seem to think that this is about people being proud that they are fat... which is absolutely wrong.
Its about people asking to be seen as equals DESPITE being fat. Fat people are discriminated against, harassed, and denied access to equal opportunities DESPITE being just as capable (or even MORE capable than their skinny peers). THAT is wrong. That deserves to be stopped.
So perhaps before you tell others to get a clue, I'd suggest you get one yourself.
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shut up sit down and mind their own damn business
as a Buddhist, suffering is my business and i am mindful of it. no one's suffering is any more or less legitimate than anyone else's. suffering = suffering. even the self-chosen kinds.
that is why i vote for doing away with "___" in "___ acceptance." i don't think anyone is helped by putting on "fat" glasses or "gender" or "sexual orientation" glasses or "race" glasses (or whathaveyou) when looking at human suffering. why divide ourselves? we all suffer.0 -
By the way remember : LOVE YOU SOME YOU. If you have to ask what it means then you should really reflect on your personal self image.Yes I think fat and healthy can go hand in hand (I can just feel the eyerolls everywhere). Before I get condemned for my oppinion (I can feel it comming), hear me out. I am considered obese, morbidly so, but I work out monday through friday, I watch what I eat, and I make it a point to avoid being rediculous on my off days. However it does not change the fact that I love what I see and I simply want to live longer for my children. I do not want to end up with diabetes like my fathers side of the family and so I choose to have a healthier lifestyle. But it would seem that my body has not caught up with the idea. I dont wear moomoos or anything of the sort. I believe in dressing nice and feeling great about the way I look despite my size, oh and by the way. I am 189 at 5'0", I I am definitly on the heavy side. My self esteem and fat pride is based on the type of person I am. That is what fat pride is about. It says that no matter how big I am I am still beautiful and am still sexy and I am still an awesome person. It is not glorifying over indulgence in food and being lazy about your health. It just means that "fat" is a matter, not a personality trait0 -
Exactly. I did lose about 60 pounds when I was a junior in high school, but it was because I hated myself. Every hour I was working out, it was all about how horrible I was and how awful it was for me to be the size that I was. So, I quickly gained it all back because self-hate does not allow for long-term life changes. It only focuses on the bad stuff instead of accentuating the good parts of working out and eating well.That's a positive look on "fat acceptance" she loves herself enough where she wants to do better. I can totally understand how when you do things out of spite they are FAR harder to maintain if you did it for yourself in the first place.0 -
Weight is only one indicator of health. And self esteem seems to be something lacking in great portion in society. You better believe that I am completely confident in my size 14 body. It's a good body. A pretty body. And it's a body that ran 5 miles this morning - so maybe its not "at the peak of health" but it's capable and functional and happy. I'm doing my best to exercise and eat well, if I lose weight as a result, that fantastic, but what's come to be most important to me is health and happiness. If that's "fat acceptance" I'll take it.0
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Actually, I did say that already.The other irony to this whole conversation of fat pride is no one I think has mentioned you have to love yourself to give a crap enough about being healthy.0 -
My biggest concern with total self-acceptance regardless of what self-destructive behaviors we have is that it trickles down to our children. I'm a high school science teacher, and I have watched the obesity problem explode over the past 10 years. It used to be almost unheard of to have a student too large to fit in a desk/chair combination seat. Now, the school has to replace all of those combo seats because too many students can't fit in them. The kids blame the seats.
Bullying should not be tolerated in any manner.
Kids do, however, have to learn that their behaviors lead to their problems. If I accept inactivity, poor diet choices, and obesity, I'm teaching my children to accept this as a way of life for themselves. The problem then perpetuates.
yeah consequences for each and every decision made, even passive or choosing to not choose is a choice and has a consequence... good choices lead to good consequences bad choices lead to ill-mannered consequences.. you'd think this is rocket science to some people...
sad state of affairs in the great USofA
So you think that all overweight people should live in shame and self hatred? Just curious.
have you read anything I've posted on this? :huh:
#getacluedawg
All I read in your posts is someone who has no idea what "fat pride" is about.
You seem to think that this is about people being proud that they are fat... which is absolutely wrong.
Its about people asking to be seen as equals DESPITE being fat. Fat people are discriminated against, harassed, and denied access to equal opportunities DESPITE being just as capable (or even MORE capable than their skinny peers). THAT is wrong. That deserves to be stopped.
So perhaps before you tell others to get a clue, I'd suggest you get one yourself.
#peacedawg
clearly you have not read out my post... I have acknowledged fat pride is having pride in yourself DESPITE being fat, not having pride in BEING fat.
I've said that is fine.. its when its obesity that I have a problem with it.0 -
shut up sit down and mind their own damn business
as a Buddhist, suffering is my business and i am mindful of it. no one's suffering is any more or less legitimate than anyone else's. suffering = suffering. even the self-chosen kinds.
that is why i vote for doing away with "___" in "___ acceptance." i don't think anyone is helped by putting on "fat" glasses or "gender" or "sexual orientation" glasses or "race" glasses (or whathaveyou) when looking at human suffering. why divide ourselves? we all suffer.
^seriously a great point.
*feels a little guilty*0 -
I find the concept irresponsible and ridiculous.
But Darwinism and all.0 -
I agree and you go with your bad self! I love me some me and have no problem with my size 14 five foot body. It is because of this that I work out and eat better. I didnt like the way if felt health wise, so I chose to make a change. It had nothing to do with fat acceptance. I wanted more energy and to feel less like sludge. If I loose weight... fine but it is not the deciding factor in what I love about me.Weight is only one indicator of health. And self esteem seems to be something lacking in great portion in society. You better believe that I am completely confident in my size 14 body. It's a good body. A pretty body. And it's a body that ran 5 miles this morning - so maybe its not "at the peak of health" but it's capable and functional and happy. I'm doing my best to exercise and eat well, if I lose weight as a result, that fantastic, but what's come to be most important to me is health and happiness. If that's "fat acceptance" I'll take it.0 -
I guess I don't care how people choose to view themselves as it affects me none.0
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History repeats itself.......marginalize, attack, and bash a group of people for long enough and they will resist. Can you blame them?0
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Being fat isn't always the same as being unhealthy. Being thin isn't always healthy.
Fat pride seems to be about tying self esteem to something BESIDES your weight just as Black Pride isn't about black supremacy and Gay Pride isn't about an anti-straight agenda.
I think its healthy and, if anything, can be far more motivating when it comes to healthy behavior than fat shaming.
Yep.
I'm a healthy fat person (notice I didn't say healthy "for being" a fat person). I have excellent blood pressure, cholesterol, energy, etc.
I've never been bullied or made to feel "less" than because I'm overweight. Because I don't let my weight define me - so other people don't either. I'm smart, sexy, funny and kind - those things matter. Weight for people will always fluctuate - but I'll always be those things.
So while I am on a mission to get fitter, it's more about having sexy biceps, abs and calves than about a number on scale or being "fat".
And if you think I'm ridiculous or blind or irresponsible - you can sit and spin on it. IDGAF.
I don't find pride in being fat. But I don't let it shame me, either.0 -
I am not trying to sound judgey and all but I must ask, what do you think is meant by "Fat pride" for you to make such a statement?I find the concept irresponsible and ridiculous.
But Darwinism and all.
I define it as pride in ones self despite their weight. To not let your size define who you are. Is that an irresponsible and rediculous concept?0 -
I'm 100% against someone being treated badly because of their weight, but I'm also 100% against promoting being proud of it. I seen a picture of a heavy woman wearing a bikini down the street on Facebook because she was 'promoting healthy body image at any size' I have always been overweight and have always found comfort in things like this but deep down, I always knew that I was harming my body. Our bones are not meant to carry 250 pounds+ on a 5'6" womans body frame. It's not healthy for our bones or joints. Fat isn't only on the outside where it can be seen, either. When we gain fat, we also gain it around our heart and other important organs. They can't possibly believe having tons of fat around their vital organs is healthy.0
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I have seen "fat pride" get to the point of skinny shaming.
Me too and that is not cool either
yeah me too... who'da thunk?
typically its going to a pool and having a six pack and getting ragged on by friends for being anorexic to get (anorexic is supposedly people who don't consume 2 beers daily, and don't count calories)
and shoppping... you try shoppping for a seersucker suit in a 28" waist.. it is totally not cool.
Get a cheap version at Express. http://www.express.com//clothing/pinstripe+photographer+suit+jacket/pro/4371264/cat320006?device=c&network=g&matchtype=&cid=3158&gclid=CJK5iNTBzL4CFaVxOgodtH0Abg0 -
I wish you could "like" posts because I love this one. Well said!Being fat isn't always the same as being unhealthy. Being thin isn't always healthy.
Fat pride seems to be about tying self esteem to something BESIDES your weight just as Black Pride isn't about black supremacy and Gay Pride isn't about an anti-straight agenda.
I think its healthy and, if anything, can be far more motivating when it comes to healthy behavior than fat shaming.
Yep.
I'm a healthy fat person (notice I didn't say healthy "for being" a fat person). I have excellent blood pressure, cholesterol, energy, etc.
I've never been bullied or made to feel "less" than because I'm overweight. Because I don't let my weight define me - so other people don't either. I'm smart, sexy, funny and kind - those things matter. Weight for people will always fluctuate - but I'll always be those things.
So while I am on a mission to get fitter, it's more about having sexy biceps, abs and calves than about a number on scale or being "fat".
And if you think I'm ridiculous or blind or irresponsible - you can sit and spin on it. IDGAF.0 -
History repeats itself.......marginalize, attack, and bash a group of people for long enough and they will resist. Can you blame them?
Look at you, making sense!0
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