My Name is Kelcie and I'm a Sugar Addict

ValGogo

yeah OK, keep coming back, bro. By the way, you went there. I said nothing nasty and you did, so look at yourself. And one other thing...myob, I wasn't talking to you.

Thank you for sharing. :flowerforyou:

lol this is an online forum. when you make a post is it open for anyone to read and interpret is as they will. as for me saying something nasty, i suppose the "cool beans" was a little much, but everything else i said was just a response to you undermining people who have trouble with sugar addiction, however mild of an addiction that may be compared to any hard drug.

I'm not breaking anyone down. I'm just calling it what it is, and THAT's not what it is. So, go ahead and make fun of it, downplay it, but I challenge any one of you to go up to an "Actual" addict and tell them that.

Oh and don't bother telling me you did. This is an on line forum and I'll just assume you're lying.

Kelcie, good job on curbing your sugar cravings. Just trying to educate you a little.

ive heard that "go up to an addict and tell them that" argument before and i will say the same thing every time, and thats that i will gladly. doesnt mean im insulting them, or undermining their problems, because it is obvious that it is an addiction to a much lesser degree (in most cases anyway). do you disregard nicotine and alcohol addictions so easily?

Congratulations! You should be so very proud of yourself. I read somewhere that Sugar is something like 10 times as addictive as cocaine... so "sober" really fits well. 14 pounds in 3 months is awesome. Its not important how fast you lose the weight. What's important is that you keep it off! I've only lost 12 pounds in about 4 months, so you are doing so awesome!

i will say that this is totally false

You know what I love? The really "helpfull, supportive" people who are just running the word "sober" with the express intention to poke. See, that's sad. What I did was tell this misguided girl what she said doesn't apply, and I also admitted that she was probably being funny and tongue in cheek when she wrote it. I could see that.

But the rest of you are just getting on the dogpile. I'm not looking for pats on the back. I'm just trying to teach.

By the way, alcohol is a drug and I don't drink either. Just cuz I didn't abuse alcohol, doesn't mean I will drink it. I stay away from it all because that's my choice. And I quit smoking too. I'm not going to get into a peeing contest about what coffee and cigarettes because that's just pushing the envelope for the sake of pushing it. Like I'm doing now....ha!

Some of you are just being cheese-heads. Is that name calling.....cheese-head? I think it's funny. :laugh:

JLHNU212

@ValGogo

I came up with a witty comment for you about how I think it is rude that you feel you can tell someone what they can and cannot say when it comes to addiction, but I realized, it wont matter. Judging by your comments, you have the "poor me" attitude and nothing is going to change that for you. I dealt with it my whole life from both my addict parents... So good luck with that attitude and hopefully it gets you far on your path to recovery.

Anyways, enough with the depressing talk! Kelcie, I think getting over your sugar ADDICTION is great! Congratulations to you!

ValGogo

Way to go Kelcie.....I was once an addict - in and out of rehab but I have been clean for almost 10 years!
In no way would I say you are NOT an addict, if you needed sweets like I needed my drugs then you know addiction just like the rest of us. Sure maybe some would say being a Sugar addict isn't as bad as being addicted to drugs or alcohol but who are we to judge?!

Keep it up!!!!

Hey, good for you on your 10 years! By the way, you're STILL an addict, but you are an "addict in recovery." Don't forget that...:flowerforyou:

Acg67

Congratulations! You should be so very proud of yourself. I read somewhere that Sugar is something like 10 times as addictive as cocaine... so "sober" really fits well. 14 pounds in 3 months is awesome. Its not important how fast you lose the weight. What's important is that you keep it off! I've only lost 12 pounds in about 4 months, so you are doing so awesome!

i will say that this is totally false

You are right... totally false. It was 8 times more addictive. Whoops - typo.
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/02/24/doctor-says-sugar-eight-times-more-addictive-than-cocaine/20837016/
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"Dr. Mark Hyman said, "In animal studies, they find that the rats go for the sugar and that it's eight times as addictive as cocaine."

LMAO, do you even read this links you post and did you read the rodent studies he referenced?

KShufflebarger08

I rarely crave anything sweet to eat. I'm bad about diet soda (I know, I know) and I sweeten tea or coffee with Stevia.

ValGogo

@ValGogo

I came up with a witty comment for you about how I think it is rude that you feel you can tell someone what they can and cannot say when it comes to addiction, but I realized, it wont matter. Judging by your comments, you have the "poor me" attitude and nothing is going to change that for you. I dealt with it my whole life from both my addict parents... So good luck with that attitude and hopefully it gets you far on your path to recovery.

Anyways, enough with the depressing talk! Kelcie, I think getting over your sugar ADDICTION is great! Congratulations to you!

I'm sorry, WHERE did I even imply "poor me?" Go put you head back where it was. You were much more witty that way.

BigT555

Congratulations! You should be so very proud of yourself. I read somewhere that Sugar is something like 10 times as addictive as cocaine... so "sober" really fits well. 14 pounds in 3 months is awesome. Its not important how fast you lose the weight. What's important is that you keep it off! I've only lost 12 pounds in about 4 months, so you are doing so awesome!

i will say that this is totally false

You are right... totally false. It was 8 times more addictive. Whoops - typo.
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/02/24/doctor-says-sugar-eight-times-more-addictive-than-cocaine/20837016/
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one doctor, one study done on rats, definitely not enough to make conclusions on

negator5543

For the TLDR crowd essentially, you can be addicted to anything.



Addiction is a primary, chronic disease of brain reward, motivation, memory and related circuitry. Addiction affects neurotransmission and interactions within reward structures of the brain, including the nucleus accumbens, anterior cingulate cortex, basal forebrain and amygdala, such that motivational hierarchies are altered and addictive behaviors, which may or may not include alcohol and other drug use, supplant healthy, self-care related behaviors. Addiction also affects neurotransmission and interactions between cortical and hippocampal circuits and brain reward structures, such that the memory of previous exposures to rewards (such as food, sex, alcohol and other drugs) leads to a biological and behavioral response to external cues, in turn triggering craving and/or engagement in addictive behaviors.

The neurobiology of addiction encompasses more than the neurochemistry of reward.1 The frontal cortex of the brain and underlying white matter connections between the frontal cortex and circuits of reward, motivation and memory are fundamental in the manifestations of altered impulse control, altered judgment, and the dysfunctional pursuit of rewards (which is often experienced by the affected person as a desire to “be normal”) seen in addiction--despite cumulative adverse consequences experienced from engagement in substance use and other addictive behaviors. The frontal lobes are important in inhibiting impulsivity and in assisting individuals to appropriately delay gratification. When persons with addiction manifest problems in deferring gratification, there is a neurological locus of these problems in the frontal cortex. Frontal lobe morphology, connectivity and functioning are still in the process of maturation during adolescence and young adulthood, and early exposure to substance use is another significant factor in the development of addiction. Many neuroscientists believe that developmental morphology is the basis that makes early-life exposure to substances such an important factor.

Genetic factors account for about half of the likelihood that an individual will develop addiction. Environmental factors interact with the person’s biology and affect the extent to which genetic factors exert their influence. Resiliencies the individual acquires (through parenting or later life experiences) can affect the extent to which genetic predispositions lead to the behavioral and other manifestations of addiction. Culture also plays a role in how addiction becomes actualized in persons with biological vulnerabilities to the development of addiction.

Other factors that can contribute to the appearance of addiction, leading to its characteristic bio-psycho-socio-spiritual manifestations, include:

The presence of an underlying biological deficit in the function of reward circuits, such that drugs and behaviors which enhance reward function are preferred and sought as reinforcers;
The repeated engagement in drug use or other addictive behaviors, causing neuroadaptation in motivational circuitry leading to impaired control over further drug use or engagement in addictive behaviors;
Cognitive and affective distortions, which impair perceptions and compromise the ability to deal with feelings, resulting in significant self-deception;
Disruption of healthy social supports and problems in interpersonal relationships which impact the development or impact of resiliencies;
Exposure to trauma or stressors that overwhelm an individual’s coping abilities;
Distortion in meaning, purpose and values that guide attitudes, thinking and behavior;
Distortions in a person’s connection with self, with others and with the transcendent (referred to as God by many, the Higher Power by 12-steps groups, or higher consciousness by others); and
The presence of co-occurring psychiatric disorders in persons who engage in substance use or other addictive behaviors.
Addiction is characterized by2:

Inability to consistently Abstain;
Impairment in Behavioral control;
Craving; or increased “hunger” for drugs or rewarding experiences;
Diminished recognition of significant problems with one’s behaviors and interpersonal relationships; and
A dysfunctional Emotional response.
The power of external cues to trigger craving and drug use, as well as to increase the frequency of engagement in other potentially addictive behaviors, is also a characteristic of addiction, with the hippocampus being important in memory of previous euphoric or dysphoric experiences, and with the amygdala being important in having motivation concentrate on selecting behaviors associated with these past experiences.

Although some believe that the difference between those who have addiction, and those who do not, is the quantity or frequency of alcohol/drug use, engagement in addictive behaviors (such as gambling or spending)3, or exposure to other external rewards (such as food or sex), a characteristic aspect of addiction is the qualitative wayin which the individual responds to such exposures, stressors and environmental cues. A particularly pathological aspect of the way that persons with addiction pursue substance use or external rewards is that preoccupation with, obsession with and/or pursuit of rewards (e.g., alcohol and other drug use) persist despite the accumulation of adverse consequences. These manifestations can occur compulsively or impulsively, as a reflection of impaired control.

Persistent risk and/or recurrence of relapse, after periods of abstinence, is another fundamental feature of addiction. This can be triggered by exposure to rewarding substances and behaviors, by exposure to environmental cues to use, and by exposure to emotional stressors that trigger heightened activity in brain stress circuits.4

In addiction there is a significant impairment in executive functioning, which manifests in problems with perception, learning, impulse control, compulsivity, and judgment. People with addiction often manifest a lower readiness to change their dysfunctional behaviors despite mounting concerns expressed by significant others in their lives; and display an apparent lack of appreciation of the magnitude of cumulative problems and complications. The still developing frontal lobes of adolescents may both compound these deficits in executive functioning and predispose youngsters to engage in “high risk” behaviors, including engaging in alcohol or other drug use. The profound drive or craving to use substances or engage in apparently rewarding behaviors, which is seen in many patients with addiction, underscores the compulsive or avolitional aspect of this disease. This is the connection with “powerlessness” over addiction and “unmanageability” of life, as is described in Step 1 of 12 Steps programs.

Addiction is more than a behavioral disorder. Features of addiction include aspects of a person’s behaviors, cognitions, emotions, and interactions with others, including a person’s ability to relate to members of their family, to members of their community, to their own psychological state, and to things that transcend their daily experience.

Behavioral manifestations and complications of addiction, primarily due to impaired control, can include:

Excessive use and/or engagement in addictive behaviors, at higher frequencies and/or quantities than the person intended, often associated with a persistent desire for and unsuccessful attempts at behavioral control;
Excessive time lost in substance use or recovering from the effects of substance use and/or engagement in addictive behaviors, with significant adverse impact on social and occupational functioning (e.g. the development of interpersonal relationship problems or the neglect of responsibilities at home, school or work);
Continued use and/or engagement in addictive behaviors, despite the presence of persistent or recurrent physical or psychological problems which may have been caused or exacerbated by substance use and/or related addictive behaviors;
A narrowing of the behavioral repertoire focusing on rewards that are part of addiction; and
An apparent lack of ability and/or readiness to take consistent, ameliorative action despite recognition of problems.
Cognitive changes in addiction can include:

Preoccupation with substance use;
Altered evaluations of the relative benefits and detriments associated with drugs or rewarding behaviors; and
The inaccurate belief that problems experienced in one’s life are attributable to other causes rather than being a predictable consequence of addiction.
Emotional changes in addiction can include:

Increased anxiety, dysphoria and emotional pain;
Increased sensitivity to stressors associated with the recruitment of brain stress systems, such that “things seem more stressful” as a result; and
Difficulty in identifying feelings, distinguishing between feelings and the bodily sensations of emotional arousal, and describing feelings to other people (sometimes referred to as alexithymia).
The emotional aspects of addiction are quite complex. Some persons use alcohol or other drugs or pathologically pursue other rewards because they are seeking “positive reinforcement” or the creation of a positive emotional state (“euphoria”). Others pursue substance use or other rewards because they have experienced relief from negative emotional states (“dysphoria”), which constitutes “negative reinforcement.“ Beyond the initial experiences of reward and relief, there is a dysfunctional emotional state present in most cases of addiction that is associated with the persistence of engagement with addictive behaviors. The state of addiction is not the same as the state of intoxication. When anyone experiences mild intoxication through the use of alcohol or other drugs, or when one engages non-pathologically in potentially addictive behaviors such as gambling or eating, one may experience a “high”, felt as a “positive” emotional state associated with increased dopamine and opioid peptide activity in reward circuits. After such an experience, there is a neurochemical rebound, in which the reward function does not simply revert to baseline, but often drops below the original levels. This is usually not consciously perceptible by the individual and is not necessarily associated with functional impairments.

Over time, repeated experiences with substance use or addictive behaviors are not associated with ever increasing reward circuit activity and are not as subjectively rewarding. Once a person experiences withdrawal from drug use or comparable behaviors, there is an anxious, agitated, dysphoric and labile emotional experience, related to suboptimal reward and the recruitment of brain and hormonal stress systems, which is associated with withdrawal from virtually all pharmacological classes of addictive drugs. While tolerance develops to the “high,” tolerance does not develop to the emotional “low” associated with the cycle of intoxication and withdrawal. Thus, in addiction, persons repeatedly attempt to create a “high”--but what they mostly experience is a deeper and deeper “low.” While anyone may “want” to get “high”, those with addiction feel a “need” to use the addictive substance or engage in the addictive behavior in order to try to resolve their dysphoric emotional state or their physiological symptoms of withdrawal. Persons with addiction compulsively use even though it may not make them feel good, in some cases long after the pursuit of “rewards” is not actually pleasurable.5 Although people from any culture may choose to “get high” from one or another activity, it is important to appreciate that addiction is not solely a function of choice. Simply put, addiction is not a desired condition.

As addiction is a chronic disease, periods of relapse, which may interrupt spans of remission, are a common feature of addiction. It is also important to recognize that return to drug use or pathological pursuit of rewards is not inevitable.

Clinical interventions can be quite effective in altering the course of addiction. Close monitoring of the behaviors of the individual and contingency management, sometimes including behavioral consequences for relapse behaviors, can contribute to positive clinical outcomes. Engagement in health promotion activities which promote personal responsibility and accountability, connection with others, and personal growth also contribute to recovery. It is important to recognize that addiction can cause disability or premature death, especially when left untreated or treated inadequately.

The qualitative ways in which the brain and behavior respond to drug exposure and engagement in addictive behaviors are different at later stages of addiction than in earlier stages, indicating progression, which may not be overtly apparent. As is the case with other chronic diseases, the condition must be monitored and managed over time to:

Decrease the frequency and intensity of relapses;
Sustain periods of remission; and
Optimize the person’s level of functioning during periods of remission.
In some cases of addiction, medication management can improve treatment outcomes. In most cases of addiction, the integration of psychosocial rehabilitation and ongoing care with evidence-based pharmacological therapy provides the best results. Chronic disease management is important for minimization of episodes of relapse and their impact. Treatment of addiction saves lives †

Addiction professionals and persons in recovery know the hope that is found in recovery. Recovery is available even to persons who may not at first be able to perceive this hope, especially when the focus is on linking the health consequences to the disease of addiction. As in other health conditions, self-management, with mutual support, is very important in recovery from addiction. Peer support such as that found in various “self-help” activities is beneficial in optimizing health status and functional outcomes in recovery. ‡

Recovery from addiction is best achieved through a combination of self-management, mutual support, and professional care provided by trained and certified professionals.



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http://www.asam.org/for-the-public/definition-of-addiction

ElliottTN

Great job Kelcie. Personally, I love my sugar but I can always respect someone who makes a conscious choice to takes steps in the direction they feel is best for them despite it not being an easy road.

I don't expect you will but don't let the attention seekers distract you from your own success thread. Others horrible life decisions have no bearing for comparison on your own struggles so just ignore. Congrats to you.

Tigerlily502

Just a shot in the dark but I think maybe Kelcie meant that she feels addicted to sweets. I know the feeling. I think some of these responses are kind of snotty and not very welcoming to the community. Why pick apart what she said instead of just being down to earth and getting the gist of it...

She obviously is just struggling with sweet treats. I know the feeling. In a world of Dairy Queen Blizzards, Mcdonalds strawberry pies, Fluffed up Starbucks lattes, and that super box of donuts someone brings into the office every Friday... it's hard to resist and so easy to fall into that trap where you train your body to start feeling like it needs that sugar rush just to function properly. I feel the same way about caffeine. Sometimes I don't even feel like a person until I've had some.

I respect your self control Kelcie and I think that's what alot of this is all about, remembering that you are in control and that you do have a choice about what goes inside of your body. I find your new success inspiring so thanks for sharing!

Cinabb

That's Awesome Kelcie! I am also a sugar addict. Still struggling but determined!

frannieshack

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
Please stop!!!!
Awesome Job Kelcie! Tip of my hat!

BigT555

You know what I love? The really "helpfull, supportive" people who are just running the word "sober" with the express intention to poke. See, that's sad. What I did was tell this misguided girl what she said doesn't apply, and I also admitted that she was probably being funny and tongue in cheek when she wrote it. I could see that.

But the rest of you are just getting on the dogpile. I'm not looking for pats on the back. I'm just trying to teach.

By the way, alcohol is a drug and I don't drink either. Just cuz I didn't abuse alcohol, doesn't mean I will drink it. I stay away from it all because that's my choice. And I quit smoking too. I'm not going to get into a peeing contest about what coffee and cigarettes because that's just pushing the envelope for the sake of pushing it. Like I'm doing now....ha!

Some of you are just being cheese-heads. Is that name calling.....cheese-head? I think it's funny. :laugh:

i agree that the use of the word sober is incorrect, someone getting over a nicotine addiction isnt getting sober either.
i appreciate your efforts to try and teach, thats what i am trying to do too. unfortunately we are trying to teach 2 opposite standpoints on sugar addiciton.

good for you for staying away from alcohol and cig's (and i truly mean that), it can be tough as hell, especially when trying to lose weight

and i most certainly am not a cheese-head... i hate the packers

LifeItself

I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.

Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.

When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.

And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.

This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.

Don't be rude.

ValGogo

I rarely crave anything sweet to eat. I'm bad about diet soda (I know, I know) and I sweeten tea or coffee with Stevia.

you know, it's funny how when one stops eating sugar, or even fatty foods, one stops craving it.

I was drinking a DD coffee without sugar this morning and thinking how it tasted so good. THen I thought about how when they put sugar in it by accident once and it was so sweet that it was kind of gross.

I think taste buds can be retrained.

Anyway, K, good for you.

goal_digger_2014

I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.

Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.

When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.

And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.

Do your research... a sugar addiction is similar to a cocaine addiction....The struggle is very real... trust... Thanks Kelcie for sharing your story to inspire other sugar addicts such as myself!!

KShufflebarger08

Ya know, I'm ignoring the negativity.

I'm happy for me. I'm doing this MY way and clearly, it's working. If you're not, BYE FELICIA.

Thanks to everyone else for positive encouragement!

walkinthedogs

This post is not directed directly at the OP, but more of a food for thought and let's use some common sense here. So your "addiction" to sugar is primarily candy, cookies, cakes and the like, right? So if I put a big bowl of cantaloupe or pineapple in front of you, does that make you start getting fidgety and have to have it? How about Mango's will that also throw all of you "sugar addicts" into a fit of HAVE TO HAVE IT sugar cravings? No? But it's full of sugar. Let's not make this more than it is. If a bowl of Oreo's (or replace with your favorite "sugar addiction" food) or a bowl of fruit was placed in front of you, which one would you reach for? The Oreo's of course, you know why? Cause they are freaking delicious and chocolatey and crunchy yummy goodness. Although I like fruit, it will not be my first pick with something that I deem yummier in front of me. That is called human nature. Cookies, cakes, pies, candy all that stuff is really really good. That is why we are drawn to it and want to eat it in excess, not because there is an addiction. If there was an actual addiction to sugar, you would seek out any and all sugar when you are going through your "HAVE TO HAVE" it phases. It's just common sense.

ValGogo

I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.

Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.

When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.

And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.

This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.

Don't be rude.

Did you miss my apology to her? Keep up...