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  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,143 Member
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    I have been on MFP for some time now and rarely post and know by posting this I am opening myself up for attacks. When I started on here other posters were encouraging and tried to motivate people now a lot just attack.

    Guess they could change the name of the site to My Fitness Persecutor....but somehow I don't think that would go over so well
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
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    Are you currently providing direct service to people dealing with mental health issues?

    Am I to imply that you feel my skills will be inadequate? Because you disagree with me in a forum? ROFL

    It was a question.

    See? Now that is hilarious. A question. An assumption. A clarification.

    But also, see how that works--I've had people criticizing me for pages and pages now and I was on the defensive. Now imagine that I was a poster who came here with a problem and had been subject to nastiness and gifs for pages and pages. See how that kind of nonsense isn't necessary and blocks communication?

    But the poster clarified what he meant in a neutral way. If you're honest with yourself, you have kept this going a long time. All of this is pointless and everyone in this thread knows it. But, because the forums provide the freedom to post your opinions until your fingers fall off - carry on.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
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    Are you currently providing direct service to people dealing with mental health issues?

    Am I to imply that you feel my skills will be inadequate? Because you disagree with me in a forum? ROFL

    It was a question.

    See? Now that is hilarious. A question. An assumption. A clarification.

    (Little microcosms of the very problems being discussed in this thread in this very thread itself. #threadception )

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  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
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    Seems appropriate that you'd choose a gif of two of the most hateful people on television. :)

    I think people are not understanding "external locus of control." Maybe you need to look it up. Beating up such a person or a person with chronic depression (situational depression can be different) just isn't the way to go. And certainly celebrating the fact s/he has deactivated an account and stating "our work is done here" is just heinous in my opinion. It was the joy at driving a person away that really shocked me, as if it were that person's mission to make a person so miserable that s/he gave up in despair. Admit what you will, but to me that fits the definition of bullying and shouldn't be tolerated here.

    They are most definitely NOT the most hateful people on television.

    I deal with depression EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. No one can help me with that but myself. I had to want to get help in order to change. Just like with weight loss. The person has to want the change. My roommate is a perfect example, I love her, it kills me to see her so depressed every day. I did help to get her to go to counseling and I know it'll take time, but it's still hard to see her suffer every single day. I talk to her about it, about maybe she should get out of the house, go for a walk, not sleep so much. She doesn't want to. She's not there yet. She's not ready to make the change. Someone has to want help in order to be willing to receive it.

    And where in ANY of my posts did I bring up anything about the people deactivating, saying that it was a good thing or even bring up that situation? I didn't. So not sure why you're bringing that up when I posted a gif in response to someone else posting something and you decided you should delete all of what was said and just come at me. I agree that bullying shouldn't be tolerated, however, that word gets tossed around like it means nothing. It's going to start turning into the boy who cried wolf because it's used so much that soon, real bullying will be hard to identify because of that.

    I don't know of the thread you speak of. If I see someone has posted they are depressed, I always advise them to seek counseling. I will speak of my own experience about depression and weight loss. No one but them can make the changes.

    If someone is depressed they have to want help, they have to want to change. Nothing anyone says on a message board can make that happen. They have to want to. I know, because that was me. Every. Single. Day. I lost weight before, but never got my depression under control. I gained it back. I lost weight in the last 2 years, and got help for my depression because I was finally ready for it and I wanted to change.

    well said Grace. i'm a couple pages back but i'm sure on the next page or two I'll see where that LoupG person apologized profusely for her offensive post.

    wait, she does apologize, right? she's going on and on about how rude and judgmental people on this site are so when she makes a mistake and her assumptions offend someone on the site I was certain that she would be quick to take ownership of her remarks, admit to her mistakes, and apologize. right?

    right?????
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
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    Are you currently providing direct service to people dealing with mental health issues?

    Am I to imply that you feel my skills will be inadequate? Because you disagree with me in a forum? ROFL

    It was a question.

    See? Now that is hilarious. A question. An assumption. A clarification.

    (Little microcosms of the very problems being discussed in this thread in this very thread itself. #threadception )

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    Awesome. Stealing. It will get put to use about every 3 days. :wink: :laugh:
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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    Are you currently providing direct service to people dealing with mental health issues?

    Am I to imply that you feel my skills will be inadequate? Because you disagree with me in a forum? ROFL

    It was a question.

    See? Now that is hilarious. A question. An assumption. A clarification.

    But also, see how that works--I've had people criticizing me for pages and pages now and I was on the defensive. Now imagine that I was a poster who came here with a problem and had been subject to nastiness and gifs for pages and pages. See how that kind of nonsense isn't necessary and blocks communication?

    But the poster clarified what he meant in a neutral way. If you're honest with yourself, you have kept this going a long time. All of this is pointless and everyone in this thread knows it. But, because the forums provide the freedom to post your opinions until your fingers fall off - carry on.

    I think this is what my girl meant to say

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  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
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    well said Grace. i'm a couple pages back but i'm sure on the next page or two I'll see where that LoupG person apologized profusely for her offensive post.

    wait, she does apologize, right? she's going on and on about how rude and judgmental people on this site are so when she makes a mistake and her assumptions offend someone on the site I was certain that she would be quick to take ownership of her remarks, admit to her mistakes, and apologize. right?

    right?????

    If you read this thread you'll see where I've made two apologies. I am never afraid to apologize when I've misspoken. However, that's a rarity here. Most people in this thread who are justifying bad behavior seem pretty proud of that behavior.
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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    Are you currently providing direct service to people dealing with mental health issues?

    Am I to imply that you feel my skills will be inadequate? Because you disagree with me in a forum? ROFL

    It was a question.

    See? Now that is hilarious. A question. An assumption. A clarification.

    (Little microcosms of the very problems being discussed in this thread in this very thread itself. #threadception )

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    OMG that's awesome, but messing with my vertigo issues.
  • Fit_Content
    Fit_Content Posts: 29 Member
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    It's why I don't post anymore. When I was really motivated, I was getting tons of praise. A lot happened in my life in 2012, 2013 was a transition year, and I'm finally starting to get my head turned around. I gained 10lbs, but then I've maintained. I don't talk about my struggles because when I did, I got blasted.

    I don't even read the forum (that much) anymore. A place that used to be great for motivation, inspiration and tips is now a place for haters and for some who only want to make others feel bad.

    I think there are people who use this who have been through enough of that.

    I know that I am walking into the room "randomly" but this post caught my eye.

    There are a whole bunch of really positive groups here who are super supportive. Some of the people in these groups don't even go the "general forum" and only post in their group. There they get excellent support depending on the group.

    I write this from a very positive and hopefully helpful viewpoint. :flowerforyou:
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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    Seems appropriate that you'd choose a gif of two of the most hateful people on television. :)

    I think people are not understanding "external locus of control." Maybe you need to look it up. Beating up such a person or a person with chronic depression (situational depression can be different) just isn't the way to go. And certainly celebrating the fact s/he has deactivated an account and stating "our work is done here" is just heinous in my opinion. It was the joy at driving a person away that really shocked me, as if it were that person's mission to make a person so miserable that s/he gave up in despair. Admit what you will, but to me that fits the definition of bullying and shouldn't be tolerated here.

    They are most definitely NOT the most hateful people on television.

    I deal with depression EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. No one can help me with that but myself. I had to want to get help in order to change. Just like with weight loss. The person has to want the change. My roommate is a perfect example, I love her, it kills me to see her so depressed every day. I did help to get her to go to counseling and I know it'll take time, but it's still hard to see her suffer every single day. I talk to her about it, about maybe she should get out of the house, go for a walk, not sleep so much. She doesn't want to. She's not there yet. She's not ready to make the change. Someone has to want help in order to be willing to receive it.

    And where in ANY of my posts did I bring up anything about the people deactivating, saying that it was a good thing or even bring up that situation? I didn't. So not sure why you're bringing that up when I posted a gif in response to someone else posting something and you decided you should delete all of what was said and just come at me. I agree that bullying shouldn't be tolerated, however, that word gets tossed around like it means nothing. It's going to start turning into the boy who cried wolf because it's used so much that soon, real bullying will be hard to identify because of that.

    I don't know of the thread you speak of. If I see someone has posted they are depressed, I always advise them to seek counseling. I will speak of my own experience about depression and weight loss. No one but them can make the changes.

    If someone is depressed they have to want help, they have to want to change. Nothing anyone says on a message board can make that happen. They have to want to. I know, because that was me. Every. Single. Day. I lost weight before, but never got my depression under control. I gained it back. I lost weight in the last 2 years, and got help for my depression because I was finally ready for it and I wanted to change.

    well said Grace. i'm a couple pages back but i'm sure on the next page or two I'll see where that LoupG person apologized profusely for her offensive post.

    wait, she does apologize, right? she's going on and on about how rude and judgmental people on this site are so when she makes a mistake and her assumptions offend someone on the site I was certain that she would be quick to take ownership of her remarks, admit to her mistakes, and apologize. right?

    right?????

    Actually, she said she didn't say that they were two of the most hateful people on television and that I should check my outrage at the door. Interesting, since I'm not outraged, I was just wondering why she was coming at me on a subject I hadn't even talked about (people deactivating)

    And evidently I'm getting blocked by her, which is breaking my heart.
    That's nice, Grace. I'm just glad I'm not blocking a genuinely nice person with a warped sense of humor.
  • CrabCatcher
    CrabCatcher Posts: 30 Member
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    Agreed, people on here should be supportive and have useful information or they should go away. I normally do not participate in these boards much anymore because there are too many trolls. Which is really too bad.
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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    It's why I don't post anymore. When I was really motivated, I was getting tons of praise. A lot happened in my life in 2012, 2013 was a transition year, and I'm finally starting to get my head turned around. I gained 10lbs, but then I've maintained. I don't talk about my struggles because when I did, I got blasted.

    I don't even read the forum (that much) anymore. A place that used to be great for motivation, inspiration and tips is now a place for haters and for some who only want to make others feel bad.

    I think there are people who use this who have been through enough of that.

    I know that I am walking into the room "randomly" but this post caught my eye.

    There are a whole bunch of really positive groups here who are super supportive. Some of the people in these groups don't even go the "general forum" and only post in their group. There they get excellent support depending on the group.

    I write this from a very positive and hopefully helpful viewpoint. :flowerforyou:

    I suggested that earlier and got this response
    so basically what you are saying that it's perfectly acceptable to be mean, if you are polite and friendly, pi$$ off, you're not the sort of person who should participate on mfp forums?

    man oh man, It can't be easy being you.

    Which I never said that polite, friendly people should pi$$ off...so be warned - the "polite" ones might tell you the same.
  • _KitKat_
    _KitKat_ Posts: 1,066 Member
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    Are you currently providing direct service to people dealing with mental health issues?

    Am I to imply that you feel my skills will be inadequate? Because you disagree with me in a forum? ROFL

    It was a question.

    See? Now that is hilarious. A question. An assumption. A clarification.

    But also, see how that works--I've had people criticizing me for pages and pages now and I was on the defensive. Now imagine that I was a poster who came here with a problem and had been subject to nastiness and gifs for pages and pages. See how that kind of nonsense isn't necessary and blocks communication?
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    You can't play victim, when in this thread....
    Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though. :wink:
    You're assuming that anyone who complains, whines, and flounces does not make a difference in his/her own life.

    I assume that, whining and complaining are immature, self serving and playing victim instead of taking action.
    *not speaking about venting, to the public or friends.
    However, it's human nature to complain about bad treatment rather than to praise good treatment. How many times do you go to a store and walk up to the customer service counter to praise the service you get? By contrast, how many times do you complain about service?

    All the time, I have called companies and/or asked for supervisors to compliment service that went over and beyond. When eating out I will tip huge and tell a supervisor how pleasant my server was. Bad service... I let money talk...lower tip and/or not spending my money there again. Other people here have said the same thing, you choose to ignore those posts and only concentrate on the negative. It must be very exhausting being you.
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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  • TwirleySlims
    TwirleySlims Posts: 112
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    All my MFP friends are supportive & friendly. I ask for their help if I need it, not the forums. I have never had any problems with the forums either, but that said, I gained weight because I gave up smoking, and replaced it with eating & drinking. I have nobody to blame but me!
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
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    All my MFP friends are supportive & friendly. I ask for their help if I need it, not the forums. I have never had any problems with the forums either, but that said, I gained weight because I gave up smoking, and replaced it with eating & drinking. I have nobody to blame but me!

    If you think really hard, I'm sure you can make eating and drinking more the fault of the forum. :laugh: Seriously, congrats on giving up the smokes. I did 2.5 years ago and don't regret it for a minute. :drinker:
  • TwirleySlims
    TwirleySlims Posts: 112
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    All my MFP friends are supportive & friendly. I ask for their help if I need it, not the forums. I have never had any problems with the forums either, but that said, I gained weight because I gave up smoking, and replaced it with eating & drinking. I have nobody to blame but me!

    If you think really hard, I'm sure you can make eating and drinking more the fault of the forum. :laugh: Seriously, congrats on giving up the smokes. I did 2.5 years ago and don't regret it for a minute. :drinker:

    Wait, you are right, it's totally because of Jim in that other convo! :laugh:
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
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    meh, there is a lot more to the site than the forums

    YUP!
  • marvybells
    marvybells Posts: 1,984 Member
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    Are you currently providing direct service to people dealing with mental health issues?

    Am I to imply that you feel my skills will be inadequate? Because you disagree with me in a forum? ROFL

    It was a question.

    See? Now that is hilarious. A question. An assumption. A clarification.

    But also, see how that works--I've had people criticizing me for pages and pages now and I was on the defensive. Now imagine that I was a poster who came here with a problem and had been subject to nastiness and gifs for pages and pages. See how that kind of nonsense isn't necessary and blocks communication?

    As an outsider reading through this thread i have a different take on things. What i see is you criticizing others for pages and pages on the very thing that you are guilty of. You read something into a question that simply wasn't there and chose to reply with a snarky remark. With a comment like that it seems obvious that you were the one intent on completely shutting down the lines of communication. Then you tried to blame it on other people instead of taking responsibility for it.
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
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    Alright time to bust out the mean and snarky, my thoughts on the ignore user function:
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    And I know, I advise people to use it, and I know in some cases it is 100% necessary, but the vast majority of the time I see it being used it is in the above context. Although my favorite was one particular user who couldn't read most of the thread because they had practically EVERYONE that responded to them on ignore.