Weightloss doesn't always lead to happiness.
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This is a topic that interests me greatly. I mainly am bookmarking to read these comments later, but for what it's worth, I have an observation.
I remember a woman that lost a great deal of weight over a couple of years in order to show up at her next highschool reunion and start a relationship with a guy she had admired all those years ago. It ended disastrously when that guy showed up at that reunion already married. Her motivation to lose the weight left her vulnerable to disappointment when life didn't work out according to her fantasies.
We need to ask ourselves why we are doing this, really. I'm asking myself, anyway. Am I using my weight as an excuse not to risk putting myself forward in social situations, or not try new things? After I get the weight off, will I suddenly have a full calendar of fun things to do with all the new friends I will have? No, I'll still be the same introverted self concious person that doesn't enjoy parties. I need to keep my expectations grounded in reality.0 -
I lost 65 lbs about 18 yrs ago. I was 125 lbs and a size 4 at 5'8". I still thought I was fat. I still hid under baggy clothes when I swam. I still was insecure. Granted, I wish I was that small again (sorta, I was on the verge of bobble-headed), I am much happier when I actually EAT something.0
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This goes for people who lose weight with natural measures as well, not just surgery. If you restrict or go to extreme measures, it will just creep back. I want this gone for good.
Again, the rate of weight loss hasn't been proven to give you, or anybody, any more substantial chance at maintaining your losses than somebody who lost quickly.
It's a cute little dieting myth that makes slow losers feel better, but it doesn't really stand up statistically, in the courts of real life. Regain is extremely common regardless of how you lost it, and how long it took to lose it. "Creep" is an issue for us all.0 -
I think a lot of people have gastric bands because they're too lazy to exercise the weight off.When you've dieted and worked hard to lose weight you'll appreciate it more.It's not just about losing the weight but changing your lifestyle as well
That is not true ! In most countries people cannot just decide to have any kind of weight loss surgery because they are lazy. In most countries they have to qualify, have to go through a physical, mental & emotional health assessment before they are even considered for such surgery. Usually their overweight has to be health or life threatening to the extreme. They usually have to take some classes or a workshop and have to prepare for their aftercare. Even people who are independently wealthy and can pay for such a surgery out-of-pocket cannot just decide on it, because they are too lazy to do anything else.
I know several countries where people have to prove that they made efforts to lose weight on their own for several years before they can even schedule an assessment appointment to maybe be considered.
Any kind of weight loss surgery is definitely not the " easy way out " and anyone who claims it is, has really no idea what they are talking about.0 -
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I think a lot of people have gastric bands because they're too lazy to exercise the weight off.When you've dieted and worked hard to lose weight you'll appreciate it more.It's not just about losing the weight but changing your lifestyle as well
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cparter said:
It is hard for me to place judgement on this when there are so many morbid obese people who there seem to be no other way.
felonebeats Said:
Even morbidly obese people can do gentle exercise until they get to a level where they can change up a gear.Too many people want a quick fix without having to put the work in,but putting the work in also installs discipline and all the other things needed to keep the weight off for good.Having an op you're not being educated on nutrition/exercise.You get what you work for imo
You should really attend a weight loss surgery seminar before you go off and say what is or isn't taught. When you start weight loss surgery programs you have go through education on nutrition / exercise. You have to keep a food journal and share it with your nutritionist once a month at your nutrition appointments. You have to lose weight and keep it off and you have to talk to mental health professionals to make sure you are in the right mindset before surgery. There is nothing easy about weight loss surgery at all, and it is not a quick fix at all. It takes an average of 6 months before you can schedule a date for surgery. It is a tool and if it isn't used properly, it will not work. No matter how you lose your weight it has to be a lifestyle change. Diets do not work, only changing your lifestyle works. You cannot go on a diet and lose weight and expect to return to your old ways and habits and not expect to gain back your weight. Even if you are the most disciplined person and are able to lose weight by just eating less you will end up in the same boat as the person the OP is talking about. When you lose weight you will always lose muscle mass unless you exercise and work at keeping muscle mass.
It took me 8 years of trying to lose the weight, to finally lose 70 pounds before I had Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy surgery 03/18/2014.
The reason I decided to have it done was because of always feeling hungry and never feeling full. Now, after surgery, I hardly ever feel hungry and feel full easier.
So to make it perfectly clear, I lost 70 pounds before surgery and now have lost 50 pounds post surgery and I still crave bad foods and have to fight myself to not eat the bad stuff, but just like skin, after stretching out your stomach, it will never shrink back to a small size.
I have never posted anything on my profile page about having a Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy done because of people like you who say blanket statements about it being the easy way and being lazy. Judgmental people suck, period. I just wish people could live in other people's bodies for a while so they can see everything other go through before they just throw out blanket statements that condemn everyone in a group.
And on the record, I am happy, with both my progress and with my life and the changes I have made. Also, after the surgery immediately after I no longer had to take any of my diabetes, high blood pressure or cholesterol medications and all my labs are right in the middle of target zones now. So yes, even after losing 70 pounds I still had to take meds and now I don't. That alone was worth it for the surgery.
So if you lost 70lbs BEFORE having the op what was stopping you carrying on and doing it yourself?feeling hungry?we all feel hungry when we're trying to lose weight but it's about being strong and disciplined.So if you had the op because you couldn't deal with the hunger then I think you did take the easy way out.I've just finished a 3 month cutting cycle losing 28lbs and I was hungry everyday of those 3 months but I stuck it out0 -
I don't know that but I do know I am not happy now with this extra weight with me.0
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This is a topic that interests me greatly. I mainly am bookmarking to read these comments later, but for what it's worth, I have an observation.
I remember a woman that lost a great deal of weight over a couple of years in order to show up at her next highschool reunion and start a relationship with a guy she had admired all those years ago. It ended disastrously when that guy showed up at that reunion already married. Her motivation to lose the weight left her vulnerable to disappointment when life didn't work out according to her fantasies.
We need to ask ourselves why we are doing this, really. I'm asking myself, anyway. Am I using my weight as an excuse not to risk putting myself forward in social situations, or not try new things? After I get the weight off, will I suddenly have a full calendar of fun things to do with all the new friends I will have? No, I'll still be the same introverted self concious person that doesn't enjoy parties. I need to keep my expectations grounded in reality.
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This goes for people who lose weight with natural measures as well, not just surgery. If you restrict or go to extreme measures, it will just creep back. I want this gone for good.
Again, the rate of weight loss hasn't been proven to give you, or anybody, any more substantial chance at maintaining your losses than somebody who lost quickly.
It's a cute little dieting myth that makes slow losers feel better, but it doesn't really stand up statistically, in the courts of real life. Regain is extremely common regardless of how you lost it, and how long it took to lose it. "Creep" is an issue for us all.
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This is what happens when you treat symptoms of problems and not the cause of them. Obesity and weight loss occurs mainly between our ears in the mysterious neural networks of electrochemical impulses that dictate our limbic, endocrine and metabolic systems. Unless the psychosocial causes of obesity are addressed you will forever be chasing symptoms.
Sure, you can oversimply and say its only a matter of calories in versus calories out. That is important, but we are not robots. We are human with all the messy emotions that goes with it. Its more than understanding human metabolism.
I had to hoe two rows during my weight loss. One dug into my psyche to cultivate a better self-esteem. The other dug into the fat. In my not-so humble opinion one will only really succeed when they address both emotional and physical issues.
This, X 1000! Great post!
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Happiness comes from within. I am battling my own happiness, but it surely has more to do with life than my weight.0
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