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Tip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
Maybe I am not understanding #14. How is muscle heavier than fat. A lb of muscle weighs the same as a lb of fat?
This response always perplexes me. One pound of anything doesn't weigh more than one pound of anything else, because they're both a pound. Der. But does that mean that no substance in the universe is heavier than any other substance? NO. It just means that someone's being a pedant about wanting you to say something is "denser" not "heavier." But in common parlance, you can say for instance that gold is heavier than aluminum and everybody who finished middle school knows exactly what you mean: that a given volume of one thing is heavier than the same volume of the other thing. It's not incorrect.
But you will always get the standard response. A gold is not heavier than aluminium - a pound of gold weighs the same as a pound of aluminium.
gaaaggggghh nothing weighs more than anything everything weighs the same the concept of weight is meaningless
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Tip number one is bull****. You store glycogen from carbs (fruit) and you certainly don't get fat from it. It's the fat combined with your carbs that makes you fat. The fat you eat is the fat you wear.0
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Tip number one is bull****. You store glycogen from carbs (fruit) and you certainly don't get fat from it. It's the fat combined with your carbs that makes you fat. The fat you eat is the fat you wear.
I think the OP's intent with Tip #1 was to counter the Weight Watchers view that fruit is "free." I've seen a lot of people raging around the forums that they'll track all their food EXCEPT the food that they're used to thinking of as "free" from WW. But fruit has calories, too many calories make you fat. That being said, it's HARD, yo, to eat enough excess calories from unprocessed whole fruit to make a substantial impediment to a calorie deficit over time.
Not about carbs. Though yeah, I've seen a lot of crazy about that on the forums too. (Seems like I used to see that more a year or so ago, and now that MFP corrected their basic sugar recommendation to more than 8% of total calories LOL I don't think people are complaining so much about fruit anymore.).0 -
Tip number one is bull****. You store glycogen from carbs (fruit) and you certainly don't get fat from it. It's the fat combined with your carbs that makes you fat. The fat you eat is the fat you wear.
No, just no!
Fruit most certainly can end up as body fat if eating it in a calorie surplus.0 -
If that were true then high carb vegans eating 3000+ calories a day from fruit, veg and grains long term would all be huge. But they are not. Yes I know this goes against everything you believe to be true but it is. The people are out there, the science is out there. It's definitely WHAT you eat.0
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If that were true then high carb vegans eating 3000+ calories a day from fruit, veg and grains long term would all be huge. But they are not. Yes I know this goes against everything you believe to be true but it is. The people are out there, the science is out there. It's definitely WHAT you eat.
Strange, there have been posts in the past from vegans who were fat----they said they ate too much.
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There's a huge difference between 'vegans' and high carb vegans. Those vegans were eating too much fat, sodium and possibly processed foods. There are actually various groups of vegans too: fully raw, vegans that eat cooked meals, vegans that eat more junk than plant based foods.0
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edit: Whoops. Don't want to enable the thread derailing efforts for this otherwise solid post.0
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If that were true then high carb vegans eating 3000+ calories a day from fruit, veg and grains long term would all be huge. But they are not. Yes I know this goes against everything you believe to be true but it is. The people are out there, the science is out there. It's definitely WHAT you eat.
So human biology doesn't apply to vegans - not sure that's true.
A macdonald a or plum, once the body processes them they end up as the same thing - glucose and as we all know (I hope) it does one of three things in the body:
1) is used by the body as fuel
2) is stored in the liver and muscles as glycogen
3) when glycogen stores are full and there is glucose in the blood stream not being used for fuel, it's converted into body fat!
But if that's not what happens to vegans then great, just the rest if the human race then.0 -
You would have to eat a HELL of a lot of carbohydrate to start storing it as fat! 15g of carb per KG of bodyweight. If you are 80kg, that means you'd have to consume 1200g of carbs in a day (good luck with that one) to start storing excess carbs as fat. And that's not even including what you'd burn in a day.0
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You would have to eat a HELL of a lot of carbohydrate to start storing it as fat! 15g of carb per KG of bodyweight. If you are 80kg, that means you'd have to consume 1200g of carbs in a day (good luck with that one) to start storing excess carbs as fat. And that's not even including what you'd burn in a day.
Our bodies love to store carbs as energy. I'm a vegan. and the grapes, pineapples, and bananas I overeat contribute to weight gain as much as anything else (unfortunately!)0 -
You would have to eat a HELL of a lot of carbohydrate to start storing it as fat! 15g of carb per KG of bodyweight. If you are 80kg, that means you'd have to consume 1200g of carbs in a day (good luck with that one) to start storing excess carbs as fat. And that's not even including what you'd burn in a day.
Our bodies love to store carbs as energy. I'm a vegan. and the grapes, pineapples, and bananas I overeat contribute to weight gain as much as anything else (unfortunately!)
What is your daily fat, sodium and water intake like?0 -
Our bodies love to store carbs as energy. I'm a vegan. and the grapes, pineapples, and bananas I overeat contribute to weight gain as much as anything else (unfortunately!)
What is your daily fat, sodium and water intake like?
Hmmm, I don't worry about those things, because I'm constantly hydrated in one way or another, my blood pressure is low so I need sodium and feel I don't get enough, and my fats seem to vary anywhere between way in the green to sometimes in the red. I don't gain weight when my fat is in the red, though. I gain weight when my calories consistently are.0 -
Our bodies love to store carbs as energy. I'm a vegan. and the grapes, pineapples, and bananas I overeat contribute to weight gain as much as anything else (unfortunately!)
What is your daily fat, sodium and water intake like?
Hmmm, I don't worry about those things, because I'm constantly hydrated in one way or another, my blood pressure is low so I need sodium and feel I don't get enough, and my fats seem to vary anywhere between way in the green to sometimes in the red. I don't gain weight when my fat is in the red, though. I gain weight when my calories consistently are.
Have you had a look at 80/10/10? Maybe you could try it as a guideline for a while to see how that goes for you? The fat should be kept at 5 - 10% of daily calories consistently.0 -
Have you had a look at 80/10/10? Maybe you could try it as a guideline for a while to see how that goes for you? The fat should be kept at 5 - 10% of daily calories consistently.
I have seen 80/10/10. I don't think it's the right plan for me. It seems to work well for some people who are much more active than I have the ability to be.0 -
What's with the massive thread derailment? How did we get from general forum advice to someone recommending a faddish sub-optimal fat/protein intake?0
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You would have to eat a HELL of a lot of carbohydrate to start storing it as fat! 15g of carb per KG of bodyweight. If you are 80kg, that means you'd have to consume 1200g of carbs in a day (good luck with that one) to start storing excess carbs as fat. And that's not even including what you'd burn in a day.
As a suggestion, have a read up on how insulin regulates blood sugar levels and what happens to the glucose in the body.
If you are eating medium to high carbs and you eat a calorie surplus, some of those carbs WILL be converted to body fat, as you body cannot deal with too much glucose in the blood.0 -
You would have to eat a HELL of a lot of carbohydrate to start storing it as fat! 15g of carb per KG of bodyweight. If you are 80kg, that means you'd have to consume 1200g of carbs in a day (good luck with that one) to start storing excess carbs as fat. And that's not even including what you'd burn in a day.
WHERE are you getting your information?? This is just nuts. Which you could use, BTW, to get some much needed healthy fats into your diet. Your hormones are going to get royally screwed up.
Where do you suppose your muscles are going to get the protein they need for repair on that low protein level?
When your hair starts falling out, and you start having other health issues, you can know that it is because of your diet plan.
If you want to screw up your own health- fine. But don't come here suggesting that to others.0 -
Our bodies love to store carbs as energy. I'm a vegan. and the grapes, pineapples, and bananas I overeat contribute to weight gain as much as anything else (unfortunately!)
What is your daily fat, sodium and water intake like?
Hmmm, I don't worry about those things, because I'm constantly hydrated in one way or another, my blood pressure is low so I need sodium and feel I don't get enough, and my fats seem to vary anywhere between way in the green to sometimes in the red. I don't gain weight when my fat is in the red, though. I gain weight when my calories consistently are.
Have you had a look at 80/10/10? Maybe you could try it as a guideline for a while to see how that goes for you? The fat should be kept at 5 - 10% of daily calories consistently.
I can't quite work out why you would prioritise a non essential macro nutrient to such an extent and minimise the 2 essential macro nutrients to extremely low volumes you are talking about.
Some carbs are optimal in a diet, but certainly not to that extent.0 -
So all you smarty pants people who say "duh a pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat...gagag;akjdfn a pound equals a pound you dumb ignorant people who are inferior to me" I have a question for you:
So, I have a piece of muscle in my left hand that weighs exactly 1 pound-force (lbf) and in my right hand I have a piece of fat that weighs exactly one lbf. I'm going to keep the piece of muscle and give the piece of fat to my astronaut friend. My friend is then going to hop on a rocket and blast off and go to the moon. He is going to take his trusty astro-scale out and weigh that piece of fat. What will be the weight of that piece of fat?
Answer: Trick question. Everyone knows it's impossible to land on the moon. The moon landing never happened and was staged in an elaborate sound studio in the Nevada desert on a base code named Area 51. The reason for this was to trick the Russians into thinking we had the technology to do it and therefore had the technology to be very accurate with nuclear weapons. It is so obvious. Only naive people will believe the official story!0 -
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So all you smarty pants people who say "duh a pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat...gagag;akjdfn a pound equals a pound you dumb ignorant people who are inferior to me" I have a question for you:
So, I have a piece of muscle in my left hand that weighs exactly 1 pound-force (lbf) and in my right hand I have a piece of fat that weighs exactly one lbf. I'm going to keep the piece of muscle and give the piece of fat to my astronaut friend. My friend is then going to hop on a rocket and blast off and go to the moon. He is going to take his trusty astro-scale out and weigh that piece of fat. What will be the weight of that piece of fat?
Answer: Trick question. Everyone knows it's impossible to land on the moon. The moon landing never happened and was staged in an elaborate sound studio in the Nevada desert on a base code named Area 51. The reason for this was to trick the Russians into thinking we had the technology to do it and therefore had the technology to be very accurate with nuclear weapons. It is so obvious. Only naive people will believe the official story!
Way to get us back on the tracks LOL0 -
So all you smarty pants people who say "duh a pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat...gagag;akjdfn a pound equals a pound you dumb ignorant people who are inferior to me" I have a question for you:
So, I have a piece of muscle in my left hand that weighs exactly 1 pound-force (lbf) and in my right hand I have a piece of fat that weighs exactly one lbf. I'm going to keep the piece of muscle and give the piece of fat to my astronaut friend. My friend is then going to hop on a rocket and blast off and go to the moon. He is going to take his trusty astro-scale out and weigh that piece of fat. What will be the weight of that piece of fat?
Answer: Trick question. Everyone knows it's impossible to land on the moon. The moon landing never happened and was staged in an elaborate sound studio in the Nevada desert on a base code named Area 51. The reason for this was to trick the Russians into thinking we had the technology to do it and therefore had the technology to be very accurate with nuclear weapons. It is so obvious. Only naive people will believe the official story!
Way to get us back on the tracks LOL
My thought exactly!0 -
So all you smarty pants people who say "duh a pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat...gagag;akjdfn a pound equals a pound you dumb ignorant people who are inferior to me" I have a question for you:
So, I have a piece of muscle in my left hand that weighs exactly 1 pound-force (lbf) and in my right hand I have a piece of fat that weighs exactly one lbf. I'm going to keep the piece of muscle and give the piece of fat to my astronaut friend. My friend is then going to hop on a rocket and blast off and go to the moon. He is going to take his trusty astro-scale out and weigh that piece of fat. What will be the weight of that piece of fat?
Answer: Trick question. Everyone knows it's impossible to land on the moon. The moon landing never happened and was staged in an elaborate sound studio in the Nevada desert on a base code named Area 51. The reason for this was to trick the Russians into thinking we had the technology to do it and therefore had the technology to be very accurate with nuclear weapons. It is so obvious. Only naive people will believe the official story!
Way to get us back on the tracks LOL
My thought exactly!
My husband is Russian. He informed me that the moon landing was a hoax due to the radiation band that surrounds the earth. However, the entire Russian space program was nothing but truth.
Also, I should try a watermelon cleanse.
So, Tip #72 (or where ever we are) Too much time on the internet is bad for your brain.0
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