Clean Eating
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500 calories of frozen waffles won't make you any fatter than 500 calories of broccoli.
This!
only 500 calories of broccolli is a lot more food than 500 calories of frozen waffles. And 500 calories of KFC won't keep you full very long where 500 calories of chicken breast with brown rice will..
Yup. That's why I expect most people watching their diets who have access to such ingredients and can cook switch over toward such meals vs. KFC or whatever without any need for special clean eating rules. I mean, surely we could all just decide to eat broadly healthy diets, yes? The assertion that makes no sense to me is that eating "clean" is somehow healthier or better for weight loss than these other ways of just trying to eat healthy.
Also, there are higher calorie "clean" foods. Some of my own "natural" preferences--which I don't defend as anything but my own preferences--are higher cal than the alternative. See the meat example I gave above, or say butter or olive oil vs other kinds of ways to cook or whole eggs vs egg whites or whole milk products vs skim or whatever low fat cheese is and on and on.0 -
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I agree with PinkinAngel about clean eating. When I cut out processed food, and food with high carbs and high sugar, my taste buds began to change. After going 30 days, I no longer craved donuts, cakes, iced coffee drinks, etc. If I did try them again (and it was usually with moderation), those foods were a disappointment. They were too sweet and really didn't seem to have much flavor. Amazingly, I now love broccoli, which was one of my least favorite foods before. Especially with a squeeze of lemon juice! In the process of cutting out the processed foods and sugars, I am losing weight. But the biggest advantage is that I feel like I have more control over my eating and don't feel as tempted by sweets.0
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Think 1 cup potato flakes with preservatives with 2 TBS processed margarine and 1 cup milk for over 500 calories vs chicken thigh, 2 cups steamed broccoli, grilled ear of corn and 2 cups fresh strawberries for under 500 calories. The second option has less calories, more nutrients and fills me up more. I feel better physically eating les preservatives and random chemicals... That is why I try to eat clean more
Why is it every time someone talks about clean eating, the only options seem to be you are either eating clean or you're eating everything from a box? There are plenty of people who eat lots of whole foods but also include convenience foods. It's not an either/or situation.0 -
Maybe it's just me but I am really getting tired of the term "clean eating".
Eat at a deficit and exercise....boom!0 -
Think 1 cup potato flakes with preservatives with 2 TBS processed margarine and 1 cup milk for over 500 calories vs chicken thigh, 2 cups steamed broccoli, grilled ear of corn and 2 cups fresh strawberries for under 500 calories. The second option has less calories, more nutrients and fills me up more. I feel better physically eating les preservatives and random chemicals... That is why I try to eat clean more
That's actually because the macros are totally different.
Make the majority of your diet from whole unprocessed sources (whatever your definition of 'clean' is) and have some treats from time to time that fit into cal/macro goals. No need to cut out entire food groups UNLESS you can't control the portions you eat them in or you are legitimately allergic/intolerant to them.
Cuts out processed foods, but still has a protein shake. Cuts out all sugar but still eats fruit. Cuts out all gluten for no particular reason except Dr Oz said so. Cuts out dairy because other animals don't drink other animals milk. Stuff like this is ridiculous and in most cases pointless.0 -
Basic organic chemistry tells me that food without chemicals isn't possible. So, which chemicals are you considering 'unclean?'Clean eating is what I consider fresh (non-processed) foods. You certainly get a bigger nutrition, without chemicals, bang for your calorie.
As many have pointed out...weight loss is calories in vs. calories expended.
Good luck!0 -
why must there be a clean eating thread every day0
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why must there be a clean eating thread every day
Every day? More like every hour.0 -
You always need to eat a deficit to loose weight. Not denying that by any means at all, which was not the point of my comment. I'm just saying that eating clean and healthy is good. Which it is. I could loose weight eating candy at a calorie deficit all day but I would be super super unhealthy. What's the point of loosing weight if you're unhealthy doing it? I just don't get it.
I'm not a "hater," I just like to work with facts.
In my teens and 20s (and even into my 30s) I couldn't care less about health, I only wanted to be skinny. Hence my diet of pickles, lettuce, black coffee, and cigarettes. And I wasn't special -- ALL the girls I knew did it.0 -
why must there be a clean eating thread every day
Because it's the only way to eat, and people need to hear about it non stop!
Still waiting for clean eating to be defined!0 -
Losing weight is calories in vs calories out; this is a science. But, that doesn't mean that you HAVE to count every single calorie that passes your lips. I've tried that before. I last 2 weeks, max, and then I just don't have the energy or the headspace to continue with it. With 'clean eating', some days I might not be at a deficit at all. Other days I may have a large or moderate deficit. I personally find that, as someone below mentioned, it's just easier to keep energy intake down that way.
Some people don't track calories, but if you don't then you don't know if you're in the required calorie deficit to lose weight.
It's the term "clean eating" that people balk at because it is often thrown around like it's the magic solution to getting rid of fat. My mother told us why we need to eat more meat, vegetables, and fruits and less chips, cookies, and cakes, but she never said we were eating clean. The term "clean eating" is newer, thus it will someday be replaced with an even newer term.Lots of people against clean eating and who take the 'everything in moderation' approach often cite the professor and his twinkie diet as evidence you can lose weight and eat junk food. And it's true. But weight loss is about so much more. In order to keep it up for the long haul, you need to be satisfied and nourished, and with lots of foods in your diet that contain a lot of calories and not a lot of nutrients, I believe it's much harder to keep up long-term.
As for me, I love whole foods and nutrient dense foods, but sometimes I like something processed. You can have all the nutrient dense, whole foods in your diet you want but it does not necessarily mean better or long term results. The results are dependent upon individual motivation, will power, the need to succeed at weight loss and maintenance, and this can be done whether you eat ALL whole foods of ALL processed foods.So, I don't think clean eating is a fad, and I think the more you include nutrient dense, whole foods in your diet, the better your results will be, especially long term
The way I see it, different strokes for different folks, and which way is better is up to the individual. 0 -
Definition of clean eating: washing your food prior to consumption. :bigsmile:why must there be a clean eating thread every day
Because it's the only way to eat, and people need to hear about it non stop!
Still waiting for clean eating to be defined!0 -
Definition of clean eating: washing your food prior to consumption. :bigsmile:why must there be a clean eating thread every day
Because it's the only way to eat, and people need to hear about it non stop!
Still waiting for clean eating to be defined!
Works for me, since it's something you can do easily with whole fruits and veggies but you can only hope the food manufacturers did while the stuff was express laned down the factory conveyor belt. Never mind those sickos who deliberately put insects and insect excretions in our food. Disgusting people. I'm so grossed out since I discovered my multivitamin has carmine in it.0 -
That's what I was wondering. I personally don't get why anyone would use potato flakes just for straight up taste reasons
I LOVE instant mashed potatoes! All those tasty random chemicals make them even better....0 -
Definition of clean eating: washing your food prior to consumption. :bigsmile:why must there be a clean eating thread every day
Because it's the only way to eat, and people need to hear about it non stop!
Still waiting for clean eating to be defined!
Works for me, since it's something you can do easily with whole fruits and veggies but you can only hope the food manufacturers did while the stuff was express laned down the factory conveyor belt. Never mind those sickos who deliberately put insects and insect excretions in our food. Disgusting people. I'm so grossed out since I discovered my multivitamin has carmine in it.
If insect excretions are what makes Reece Peanut Butter cups so damn delicious they can continue.
As for the above definition of clean eating....I guess I don't always eat clean, sometime i don't wash my fruits and veggies, pull them from the bag or garden and eat. I may even wipe the dirt off my garden veggies, but not always. :bigsmile:0 -
As for the above definition of clean eating....I guess I don't always eat clean, sometime i don't wash my fruits and veggies, pull them from the bag or garden and eat. I may even wipe the dirt off my garden veggies, but not always. :bigsmile:
I picked some basil and parsley last night and used it for dinner. Totally didn't wash it.0 -
Works for me, since it's something you can do easily with whole fruits and veggies but you can only hope the food manufacturers did while the stuff was express laned down the factory conveyor belt. Never mind those sickos who deliberately put insects and insect excretions in our food. Disgusting people. I'm so grossed out since I discovered my multivitamin has carmine in it.
What's wrong with carmine?
(I'm sure I'll get no answer, but I like to torture myself)0 -
If you are not creating a calorie deficit big enough to lose weight, "clean" eating is no better than "dirty" eating. Using whole ingredients is awesome, but I don't see the need to cut out or demonize foods because they aren't "clean".
However, I do recommend clean eating. It's always good to wash your food before you cook/eat it.0 -
As for the above definition of clean eating....I guess I don't always eat clean, sometime i don't wash my fruits and veggies, pull them from the bag or garden and eat. I may even wipe the dirt off my garden veggies, but not always. :bigsmile:
I picked some basil and parsley last night and used it for dinner. Totally didn't wash it.
I approve of your dirty eating!0 -
Works for me, since it's something you can do easily with whole fruits and veggies but you can only hope the food manufacturers did while the stuff was express laned down the factory conveyor belt. Never mind those sickos who deliberately put insects and insect excretions in our food. Disgusting people. I'm so grossed out since I discovered my multivitamin has carmine in it.
What's wrong with carmine?
(I'm sure I'll get no answer, but I like to torture myself)
Carmine (/ˈkɑrmɪn/ or /ˈkɑrmaɪn/), also called crimson lake, cochineal, natural red 4,[1] C.I. 75470,[1] or E120, is a pigment of a bright-red color obtained from the aluminium salt of carminic acid, which is produced by some scale insects, such as the cochineal scale and the Polish cochineal, and is used as a general term for a particularly deep-red color of the same name. Carmine is used in the manufacture of artificial flowers, paints, crimson ink, rouge, and other cosmetics, and is routinely added to food products such as yogurt and certain brands of juice, the most notable ones being those of the ruby-red variety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine0 -
There have been studies coming out recently on how the changing construction of food/medicine is adding to the obesity epidemic. Antibiotics and fattening chemicals in our meats, chemicals in our processed foods, etc. So, in my mind yes, calories in vs. calories out is important but eating 500 calories of broccoli is better than 500 calories of frozen (processed and chock full of chemicals) waffles.
All these fads crop up because of calories in vs. calories out doesn't work for everyone. If you want to try something new to see if works, go for it. Don't let the haters hate.
I dare anyone to eat 500 calories of broccoli in one meal.
I'd also like someone to explain how eating 500 calories of broccoli in one meal is in any way healthy.
And CICO works for everyone...the problem is that many simply don't understand it.
QTA:
If anyone *does* accept my challenge to eat slightly more than THREE POUNDS of brocolli, please post video of the event and document your experience during the 24 hours after.
I ate "clean" (aka strict paleo) for the entire calendar year 2012, felt great, and made good progress on my goals. I gained 20 pounds...intentionally, by eating more than I burned, as I was on a slow bulk. (I ate very "unclean" in 2013, felt great, and made good progress on my goals. I lost ~20 pounds...again, intentionally, by eating less than I burned.)0 -
There have been studies coming out recently on how the changing construction of food/medicine is adding to the obesity epidemic. Antibiotics and fattening chemicals in our meats, chemicals in our processed foods, etc. So, in my mind yes, calories in vs. calories out is important but eating 500 calories of broccoli is better than 500 calories of frozen (processed and chock full of chemicals) waffles.
All these fads crop up because of calories in vs. calories out doesn't work for everyone. If you want to try something new to see if works, go for it. Don't let the haters hate.
I dare anyone to eat 500 calories of broccoli in one meal.
I'd also like someone to explain how eating 500 calories of broccoli in one meal is in any way healthy.
And CICO works for everyone...the problem is that many simply don't understand it.
QTA:
If anyone *does* accept my challenge to eat slightly more than THREE POUNDS of brocolli, please post video of the event and document your experience during the 24 hours after.
I ate "clean" (aka strict paleo) for the entire calendar year 2012, felt great, and made good progress on my goals. I gained 20 pounds...intentionally, by eating more than I burned, as I was on a slow bulk. (I ate very "unclean" in 2013, felt great, and made good progress on my goals. I lost ~20 pounds...again, intentionally, by eating less than I burned.)
I almost want to do this just to see what will happen.0 -
I almost want to do this just to see what will happen.
No you don't.
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Works for me, since it's something you can do easily with whole fruits and veggies but you can only hope the food manufacturers did while the stuff was express laned down the factory conveyor belt. Never mind those sickos who deliberately put insects and insect excretions in our food. Disgusting people. I'm so grossed out since I discovered my multivitamin has carmine in it.
What's wrong with carmine?
(I'm sure I'll get no answer, but I like to torture myself)
Carmine (/ˈkɑrmɪn/ or /ˈkɑrmaɪn/), also called crimson lake, cochineal, natural red 4,[1] C.I. 75470,[1] or E120, is a pigment of a bright-red color obtained from the aluminium salt of carminic acid, which is produced by some scale insects, such as the cochineal scale and the Polish cochineal, and is used as a general term for a particularly deep-red color of the same name. Carmine is used in the manufacture of artificial flowers, paints, crimson ink, rouge, and other cosmetics, and is routinely added to food products such as yogurt and certain brands of juice, the most notable ones being those of the ruby-red variety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine
So? Are you allergic?0 -
Works for me, since it's something you can do easily with whole fruits and veggies but you can only hope the food manufacturers did while the stuff was express laned down the factory conveyor belt. Never mind those sickos who deliberately put insects and insect excretions in our food. Disgusting people. I'm so grossed out since I discovered my multivitamin has carmine in it.
What's wrong with carmine?
(I'm sure I'll get no answer, but I like to torture myself)
Carmine (/ˈkɑrmɪn/ or /ˈkɑrmaɪn/), also called crimson lake, cochineal, natural red 4,[1] C.I. 75470,[1] or E120, is a pigment of a bright-red color obtained from the aluminium salt of carminic acid, which is produced by some scale insects, such as the cochineal scale and the Polish cochineal, and is used as a general term for a particularly deep-red color of the same name. Carmine is used in the manufacture of artificial flowers, paints, crimson ink, rouge, and other cosmetics, and is routinely added to food products such as yogurt and certain brands of juice, the most notable ones being those of the ruby-red variety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine
So? Are you allergic?
No, I just haven't thought eating bugs was cool since preschool.
But if I had to claim a religion to justify not doing so, I'd convert to something that doesn't allow such disgusting food practices. Surely one exists. If it doesn't, I might make one up.0 -
Bugs are natural...wouldn't that be considered clean?0
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Bugs are natural...wouldn't that be considered clean?
Not in my definition. Not on my planet. Foul. Foul disgusting, gross!
Edit: But since I did just switch to vegan for ethical reasons, I'm going to claim poor bugs! I will not eat you!
Gross.0 -
My question is will I start to see any weight loss results from eating clean, and watching caloric intake, even if I haven't begun working out regularly?
Absolutely! People will tell you that eating clean is stupid and it's all just calories in vs calories out, but for some of us "eating clean" (whatever that means to you) makes eating less easier! It can help with cravings, nutrition absorption, stomach upset...etc. I have always found that about 70% of the results are related to diet, not the gym.0 -
While eating "clean" calories might be the same weight effect as eating the same number of calories in frozen waffles-- paying attention to what you eat and eating better foods will make you feel better.
There is more nutrition in a cup of broccoli than the same number of calories from Popsicle. If you feel better, you are likely to sleep better, move more, and pay attention to other aspects of your life.
There are people who can lose weight eating only DESSERTS.... but for many pf us, I find that when I pay attention to what goes in, I focus on other things too. Try it-- everyone has what works for them.
Just be sure that you don't UP your number of calories without adding movement. Even without a gym, walking would help.
Good luck with it!:happy: :happy:0
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