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OP, the biggest draw to your posts is the unbelievable arrogance followed by the complete 180 to humble, only to go right back to being arrogant again. It's like a roller coaster, only without the added thrill of messy hair and an awkward half-closed eye photo at the end. You do this pretty repeatedly. We've all been on the ride before. I think you're a funny, and probably even a smart, troll.
On the very remote chance you're not trolling I have a sincere response. But I just can't bring myself to be that sincere when it comes to valuable life lessons. You might be better off touching success, landing on your face, and starting over a better person.0 -
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OP, the biggest draw to your posts is the unbelievable arrogance followed by the complete 180 to humble, only to go right back to being arrogant again. It's like a roller coaster, only without the added thrill of messy hair and an awkward half-closed eye photo at the end. You do this pretty repeatedly. We've all been on the ride before. I think you're a funny, and probably even a smart, troll.
On the very remote chance you're not trolling I have a sincere response. But I just can't bring myself to be that sincere when it comes to valuable life lessons. You might be better off touching success, landing on your face, and starting over a better person.
respectfully I don't think you know what a Artisan Role Variant is
"Promoters are tactical operators, concrete in speech and utilitarian in action. In social situations, they are directive and expressive.[2] Promoters are the most adept among the types at maneuvering other people to their position. They make a point of getting to know those in positions of influence. Promoters are also resourceful, knowing where the fun and the action are. They like to indulge themselves in the finer things in life and to bring other people with them. Their goal in life is to sell themselves and their ideas to others. Dramatic and debonair, they are gifted at earning others' confidence" - Wikipidiea - but it is basically word for word the bio in my conclusion.
- its my makeup I'm not some psycho or evil person.
edit: - edit I just want to say that tons of our presidents, congressman, and presidents of corporations etc have this same makeup so it doesn't mean we are manipulators its our wiring.0 -
OP, the biggest draw to your posts is the unbelievable arrogance followed by the complete 180 to humble, only to go right back to being arrogant again. It's like a roller coaster, only without the added thrill of messy hair and an awkward half-closed eye photo at the end. You do this pretty repeatedly. We've all been on the ride before. I think you're a funny, and probably even a smart, troll.
On the very remote chance you're not trolling I have a sincere response. But I just can't bring myself to be that sincere when it comes to valuable life lessons. You might be better off touching success, landing on your face, and starting over a better person.
Obviously, he isn't going to change in an instant. He wants to change. He has a direction. It's up to him to follow it. But I don't think taking and processing advice given means he has instantly changed, and I don't think he expects anyone else to believe that it has instantly changed him.
Can the guy catch a break?0 -
You know... this is what I think you all are seing:
Him: I'm young and successful and awesome.
The consensus: Dude, your ego... you look like a jerk.
Him: Really? I don't want to look like a jerk.
Me: You should try A, B, and C. These things have helped me. They might help you too.
Him: Thanks. I am a completely different man upon hearing this advice.
Moments later...
Him: Yep, I'm still a jerk.
What is actually taking place:
Him: I'm young and successful and awesome.
The consensus: Dude, your ego... you look like a jerk.
Him: Really? I don't want to look like a jerk.
Me: You should try A, B, and C. These things have helped me. They might help you too.
Him: Thanks. I am going to work on that.
Moments later...
Him: I haven't had time to implement the suggestions given so I'm still looking like jerk.0 -
I 100% agree I am too materialistic, I basically conditioned myself to be materialistic because I was an addict that with a nihilistic worldview. With there being no point at all to existence, I abused substances because it felt - well you could feel something period which was nice at the time. - of course my life spiraled embarrassingly out of control, had to drop out of college and move back in with my parents even to get my head back on straight and to grow up. - humbling to admit. I was depression personified, and with no point at all to life I figured I might as well work to kill time and get nice things? - so I ditched 99% of the druggie idiot friends I used to have and surrounded myself around ppl that I had viewed as successful and tried to become just like them - and in many ways I achieved that... but I achieved it without developing still a real purpose per se... because when viewing the cosmos as a whole or even realizing we are in a parallel universe with really no purpose.. it is all a bit meaningless - even the clothes and wealth.. idk I feel happier WAYY happier being sober and a health nut - but I still in a sense feel as if I am just. killing. time.
..as for substance I will totally admit I have been feeling like I lack... purpose? idk how to structure how I feel about it.. but I am aware I am not exactly developed in the ideal manner in regards to substance...
and that is humbling to admit!
"Thus the practical and realistic aim is compassion, a warm heart, serving other people, helping others, respecting others, being less selfish. By practising these, you can gain benefit and happiness that remain longer. If you investigate the purpose of life and, with the motivation that results from this inquiry, develop a good heart - compassion and love. Using your whole life this way, each day will become useful and meaningful."
- His Holiness the Dalai Lama0 -
That's not what it means:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weak+minded?s=t
someone who's easy to manipulate would be trusting and naive. (which are not bad qualities)
" foolish" in that definition you just posted which also fits in "lacking forethought or caution" which can also go hand in hand with naïve... but either way
foolish does not mean the same as naive. naive people may be prone to doing foolish things due to a lack of experience but they're not the same thing.0 -
You know... this is what I think you all are seing:
Him: I'm young and successful and awesome.
The consensus: Dude, your ego... you look like a jerk.
Him: Really? I don't want to look like a jerk.
Me: You should try A, B, and C. These things have helped me. They might help you too.
Him: Thanks. I am a completely different man upon hearing this advice.
Moments later...
Him: Yep, I'm still a jerk.
What is actually taking place:
Him: I'm young and successful and awesome.
The consensus: Dude, your ego... you look like a jerk.
Him: Really? I don't want to look like a jerk.
Me: You should try A, B, and C. These things have helped me. They might help you too.
Him: Thanks. I am going to work on that.
Moments later...
Him: I haven't had time to implement the suggestions given so I'm still looking like jerk.
^I think that articulates it well for me as well! That does shed a great deal of clarity on things
And I actually am applying the instruction people give me on here - I guess it is easier in the short run to see- MityMax gave me great great advice on my sixpack - I took his advice after weeks of being stuck and BAM - immediate results (2-3 weeks)
But on the more important side I am indeed taking advice and input you guys give me - obviously my ego is over-the-top due to the huge consensus on that- trust me if it was one or two people telling me this I would wave it off... its like everyone on here, and I think you guys are more straightforward and direct about it then friends and coworkers because of the internet anonymity so I'm taking your input even more direct.
I'm improving, but it is a process- and I'll try to expedite it up!!0 -
I 100% agree I am too materialistic, I basically conditioned myself to be materialistic because I was an addict that with a nihilistic worldview. With there being no point at all to existence, I abused substances because it felt - well you could feel something period which was nice at the time. - of course my life spiraled embarrassingly out of control, had to drop out of college and move back in with my parents even to get my head back on straight and to grow up. - humbling to admit. I was depression personified, and with no point at all to life I figured I might as well work to kill time and get nice things? - so I ditched 99% of the druggie idiot friends I used to have and surrounded myself around ppl that I had viewed as successful and tried to become just like them - and in many ways I achieved that... but I achieved it without developing still a real purpose per se... because when viewing the cosmos as a whole or even realizing we are in a parallel universe with really no purpose.. it is all a bit meaningless - even the clothes and wealth.. idk I feel happier WAYY happier being sober and a health nut - but I still in a sense feel as if I am just. killing. time.
..as for substance I will totally admit I have been feeling like I lack... purpose? idk how to structure how I feel about it.. but I am aware I am not exactly developed in the ideal manner in regards to substance...
and that is humbling to admit!
"Thus the practical and realistic aim is compassion, a warm heart, serving other people, helping others, respecting others, being less selfish. By practising these, you can gain benefit and happiness that remain longer. If you investigate the purpose of life and, with the motivation that results from this inquiry, develop a good heart - compassion and love. Using your whole life this way, each day will become useful and meaningful."
- His Holiness the Dalai Lama
this is going to sound really really ignorant but did that come from a book or a speech? - I don't know anything about the Dalai Lama.
And this is a theme I have observed from many religions now - I will be investigating this all a great deal.
There was one time in my life that I had a broken heart from a girl that cheated on me after a 4 year relationship... I was crushed, and I almost ALMOST went back to the old life. - lowest point ever since sobriety. I do recall what cheered me up the most was "serving other people, helping others, respecting others" - naturally (not being cocky I really really do) I have a very warm heart and am compassionate - this tho^ serving others, helping, and not being selfish is very hard for me because I am very inwardly focused.
Thanks for bringing that to light and for the reminder.0 -
OP, the biggest draw to your posts is the unbelievable arrogance followed by the complete 180 to humble, only to go right back to being arrogant again. It's like a roller coaster, only without the added thrill of messy hair and an awkward half-closed eye photo at the end. You do this pretty repeatedly. We've all been on the ride before. I think you're a funny, and probably even a smart, troll.
On the very remote chance you're not trolling I have a sincere response. But I just can't bring myself to be that sincere when it comes to valuable life lessons. You might be better off touching success, landing on your face, and starting over a better person.
respectfully I don't think you know what a Artisan Role Variant is
"Promoters are tactical operators, concrete in speech and utilitarian in action. In social situations, they are directive and expressive.[2] Promoters are the most adept among the types at maneuvering other people to their position. They make a point of getting to know those in positions of influence. Promoters are also resourceful, knowing where the fun and the action are. They like to indulge themselves in the finer things in life and to bring other people with them. Their goal in life is to sell themselves and their ideas to others. Dramatic and debonair, they are gifted at earning others' confidence" - Wikipidiea - but it is basically word for word the bio in my conclusion.
- its my makeup I'm not some psycho or evil person.
Not saying you're evil or psycho, in fact, I think the opposite is more likely. I'm well aware of what a "promoter" is. What I'm saying is that your personality leaves you open - wide open - to being mocked when you're not around, and sometimes when you are. You need to remember that not everyone out there is going to view you as a promoter. Many will view you as a grifter. Still more will view you as a pawn. Others will view you as eager to fit in where it is believed that you don't belong (if you're not blue blood, you know exactly what I mean). As for your career, you can't earn the confidence of sociopaths, and if you're rubbing elbows with the truly successful on a regular basis, you're dealing with sociopaths. You need to learn how to protect yourself from them. Being overly flashy won't protect you. You need to have a certain amount of "don't give a ****" to keep them from actively seeking you out and causing harm to your career.
You are a smart person. My comments to you are about how you portray yourself to others versus how you think you do.0 -
powerful statement: My comments to you are about how you portray yourself to others versus how you think you do.OP, the biggest draw to your posts is the unbelievable arrogance followed by the complete 180 to humble, only to go right back to being arrogant again. It's like a roller coaster, only without the added thrill of messy hair and an awkward half-closed eye photo at the end. You do this pretty repeatedly. We've all been on the ride before. I think you're a funny, and probably even a smart, troll.
On the very remote chance you're not trolling I have a sincere response. But I just can't bring myself to be that sincere when it comes to valuable life lessons. You might be better off touching success, landing on your face, and starting over a better person.
respectfully I don't think you know what a Artisan Role Variant is
"Promoters are tactical operators, concrete in speech and utilitarian in action. In social situations, they are directive and expressive.[2] Promoters are the most adept among the types at maneuvering other people to their position. They make a point of getting to know those in positions of influence. Promoters are also resourceful, knowing where the fun and the action are. They like to indulge themselves in the finer things in life and to bring other people with them. Their goal in life is to sell themselves and their ideas to others. Dramatic and debonair, they are gifted at earning others' confidence" - Wikipidiea - but it is basically word for word the bio in my conclusion.
- its my makeup I'm not some psycho or evil person.
Not saying you're evil or psycho, in fact, I think the opposite is more likely. I'm well aware of what a "promoter" is. What I'm saying is that your personality leaves you open - wide open - to being mocked when you're not around, and sometimes when you are. You need to remember that not everyone out there is going to view you as a promoter. Many will view you as a grifter. Still more will view you as a pawn. Others will view you as eager to fit in where it is believed that you don't belong (if you're not blue blood, you know exactly what I mean). As for your career, you can't earn the confidence of sociopaths, and if you're rubbing elbows with the truly successful on a regular basis, you're dealing with sociopaths. You need to learn how to protect yourself from them. Being overly flashy won't protect you. You need to have a certain amount of "don't give a ****" to keep them from actively seeking you out and causing harm to your career.
You are a smart person. My comments to you are about how you portray yourself to others versus how you think you do.
^this just made me rethink all your comments now.... and yeah I know what you mean...
appreciate your words of wisdom...certainly something for me to think about.0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.
K googling - Socratic questioning:
- and also - I learn a great great deal from listening and reasoning with people - and I didn't plan on getting good advice and reasoning from people! I wasn't like actively looking for enlightenment...0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.
K googling - Socratic questioning:
- and also - I learn a great great deal from listening and reasoning with people - and I didn't plan on getting good advice and reasoning from people! I wasn't like actively looking for enlightenment...
Nice Seersucker suit by the way.
The perfect summer suit to be worn before 6pm for a social function.0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.
K googling - Socratic questioning:
- and also - I learn a great great deal from listening and reasoning with people - and I didn't plan on getting good advice and reasoning from people! I wasn't like actively looking for enlightenment...
Nice Seersucker suit by the way.
The perfect summer suit to be worn before 6pm for a social function.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.
K googling - Socratic questioning:
- and also - I learn a great great deal from listening and reasoning with people - and I didn't plan on getting good advice and reasoning from people! I wasn't like actively looking for enlightenment...
Nice Seersucker suit by the way.
The perfect summer suit to be worn before 6pm for a social function.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I'm being serious!
Mr Tolerable is a good kid really. He needs some direction is all.
I was a little like him when I was younger although I was more arrogant (yeah, honestly, it wasn't a good time...)0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.
K googling - Socratic questioning:
- and also - I learn a great great deal from listening and reasoning with people - and I didn't plan on getting good advice and reasoning from people! I wasn't like actively looking for enlightenment...
Nice Seersucker suit by the way.
The perfect summer suit to be worn before 6pm for a social function.
Thank you sir!
:drinker:
And as always your lil tidbit is actually a huge vault of information ... Socratic Questioning...much more indepth and complex then I was thinking so this is going to take a great deal of research.
seriously appreciate it.!0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.
K googling - Socratic questioning:
- and also - I learn a great great deal from listening and reasoning with people - and I didn't plan on getting good advice and reasoning from people! I wasn't like actively looking for enlightenment...
Nice Seersucker suit by the way.
The perfect summer suit to be worn before 6pm for a social function.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I'm being serious!
Mr Tolerable is a good kid really. He needs some direction is all.
I was a little like him when I was younger although I was more arrogant (yeah, honestly, it wasn't a good time...)
That's what I've been saying... he isn't a bad guy. He is just young and maybe a little lost in life.0 -
For the love of everything holy...
why have you started this crap again dude?
Stop trying to find your enlightenment in other people's ideological structures and find it in yourself. Learn some Socratic questioning and explore the world.
K googling - Socratic questioning:
- and also - I learn a great great deal from listening and reasoning with people - and I didn't plan on getting good advice and reasoning from people! I wasn't like actively looking for enlightenment...
Nice Seersucker suit by the way.
The perfect summer suit to be worn before 6pm for a social function.
Thank you sir!
:drinker:
And as always your lil tidbit is actually a huge vault of information ... Socratic Questioning...much more indepth and complex then I was thinking so this is going to take a great deal of research.
seriously appreciate it.!
No probs mate. Sometimes life is more meaningful if you start looking for the right questions rather than seeking the right answers.
Enjoy your evening
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I 100% agree I am too materialistic, I basically conditioned myself to be materialistic because I was an addict that with a nihilistic worldview. With there being no point at all to existence, I abused substances because it felt - well you could feel something period which was nice at the time. - of course my life spiraled embarrassingly out of control, had to drop out of college and move back in with my parents even to get my head back on straight and to grow up. - humbling to admit. I was depression personified, and with no point at all to life I figured I might as well work to kill time and get nice things? - so I ditched 99% of the druggie idiot friends I used to have and surrounded myself around ppl that I had viewed as successful and tried to become just like them - and in many ways I achieved that... but I achieved it without developing still a real purpose per se... because when viewing the cosmos as a whole or even realizing we are in a parallel universe with really no purpose.. it is all a bit meaningless - even the clothes and wealth.. idk I feel happier WAYY happier being sober and a health nut - but I still in a sense feel as if I am just. killing. time.
..as for substance I will totally admit I have been feeling like I lack... purpose? idk how to structure how I feel about it.. but I am aware I am not exactly developed in the ideal manner in regards to substance...
and that is humbling to admit!
"Thus the practical and realistic aim is compassion, a warm heart, serving other people, helping others, respecting others, being less selfish. By practising these, you can gain benefit and happiness that remain longer. If you investigate the purpose of life and, with the motivation that results from this inquiry, develop a good heart - compassion and love. Using your whole life this way, each day will become useful and meaningful."
- His Holiness the Dalai Lama
this is going to sound really really ignorant but did that come from a book or a speech? - I don't know anything about the Dalai Lama.
And this is a theme I have observed from many religions now - I will be investigating this all a great deal.
There was one time in my life that I had a broken heart from a girl that cheated on me after a 4 year relationship... I was crushed, and I almost ALMOST went back to the old life. - lowest point ever since sobriety. I do recall what cheered me up the most was "serving other people, helping others, respecting others" - naturally (not being cocky I really really do) I have a very warm heart and am compassionate - this tho^ serving others, helping, and not being selfish is very hard for me because I am very inwardly focused.
Thanks for bringing that to light and for the reminder.
The Dalai Lama also said: We can never obtain peace in the outer world, until we have made peace within ourselves.
Work on the inner peace. Once you have that, the rest will be a lot easier.0
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