Milk Vs. Water

Achrya

I disagree. Milk is meant for baby cows.

I suppose you also don't eat honey? Pretty sure bees aren't puking that out for your consumption.

brower47

I disagree. Milk is meant for baby cows.

And drum sticks are meant for chicken mobility. Spinach leaves are meant for photosynthesis to make the plant continue to grow. None of it is meant for you but we consume it because we're members of the planet earth that have a long history of procuring items that aren't meant for us in order to ensure survival.

Bad, ridiculous, stupid argument is bad, ridiculous and stupid.

Achrya

I would say yes add it if you feel like it but don't neglect water or replace water with milk. WATER IS WATER and your body needs water.

Your body gets water through anything that contains... wait for it... water. You could eat nothing but hydrating foods, never drink a drop of water and be absolutely healthy.

Your body does not differentiate between the water from a piece of fruit, a soda, a glass of milk or a glass of water. It still has the chemical make up of H2O and the body still processes it and uses it in the same manner.

Drink water if you're not getting enough hydration through other methods, don't drink water just because you can see through it.

You have been misinformed.

Oh boy.

Iron_Feline

I would say yes add it if you feel like it but don't neglect water or replace water with milk. WATER IS WATER and your body needs water.

Your body gets water through anything that contains... wait for it... water. You could eat nothing but hydrating foods, never drink a drop of water and be absolutely healthy.

Your body does not differentiate between the water from a piece of fruit, a soda, a glass of milk or a glass of water. It still has the chemical make up of H2O and the body still processes it and uses it in the same manner.

Drink water if you're not getting enough hydration through other methods, don't drink water just because you can see through it.

You have been misinformed.

Studies please.

TheLostMermaid

1. Drinking Water Helps Maintain the Balance of Body Fluids. Your body is composed of about 60% water. The functions of these bodily fluids include digestion, absorption, circulation, creation of saliva, transportation of nutrients, and maintenance of body temperature.

"Through the posterior pituitary gland, your brain communicates with your kidneys and tells it how much water to excrete as urine or hold onto for reserves," says Guest, who is also an adjunct professor of medicine at Stanford University.

When you're low on fluids, the brain triggers the body's thirst mechanism. And unless you are taking medications that make you thirsty, Guest says, you should listen to those cues and get yourself a drink of water, juice, milk, coffee -- anything but alcohol.

"Alcohol interferes with the brain and kidney communication and causes excess excretion of fluids which can then lead to dehydration," he says.

2. Water Can Help Control Calories. For years, dieters have been drinking lots of water as a weight loss strategy. While water doesn't have any magical effect on weight loss, substituting it for higher calorie beverages can certainly help.

"What works with weight loss is if you choose water or a non-caloric beverage over a caloric beverage and/or eat a diet higher in water-rich foods that are healthier, more filling, and help you trim calorie intake," says Penn State researcher Barbara Rolls, PhD, author of The Volumetrics Weight Control Plan.

Food with high water content tends to look larger, its higher volume requires more chewing, and it is absorbed more slowly by the body, which helps you feel full. Water-rich foods include fruits, vegetables, broth-based soups, oatmeal, and beans.

3. Water Helps Energize Muscles. Cells that don't maintain their balance of fluids and electrolytes shrivel, which can result in muscle fatigue. "When muscle cells don't have adequate fluids, they don't work as well and performance can suffer," says Guest.

Drinking enough fluids is important when exercising. Follow the American College of Sports Medicine guidelines for fluid intake before and during physical activity. These guidelines recommend that people drink about 17 ounces of fluid about two hours before exercise. During exercise, they recommend that people start drinking fluids early, and drink them at regular intervals to replace fluids lost by sweating.

4. Water Helps Keep Skin Looking Good. Your skin contains plenty of water, and functions as a protective barrier to prevent excess fluid loss. But don't expect over-hydration to erase wrinkles or fine lines, says Atlanta dermatologist Kenneth Ellner, MD.

"Dehydration makes your skin look more dry and wrinkled, which can be improved with proper hydration," he says. "But once you are adequately hydrated, the kidneys take over and excrete excess fluids."











You can also help "lock" moisture into your skin by using moisturizer, which creates a physical barrier to keep moisture in.

5. Water Helps Your Kidneys. Body fluids transport waste products in and out of cells. The main toxin in the body is blood urea nitrogen, a water-soluble waste that is able to pass through the kidneys to be excreted in the urine, explains Guest. "Your kidneys do an amazing job of cleansing and ridding your body of toxins as long as your intake of fluids is adequate," he says.

When you're getting enough fluids, urine flows freely, is light in color and free of odor. When your body is not getting enough fluids, urine concentration, color, and odor increases because the kidneys trap extra fluid for bodily functions.

If you chronically drink too little, you may be at higher risk for kidney stones, especially in warm climates, Guest warns.

6. Water Helps Maintain Normal Bowel Function. Adequate hydration keeps things flowing along your gastrointestinal tract and prevents constipation. When you don't get enough fluid, the colon pulls water from stools to maintain hydration -- and the result is constipation.

"Adequate fluid and fiber is the perfect combination, because the fluid pumps up the fiber and acts like a broom to keep your bowel functioning properly," says Koelemay.



If you fail to drink enough water you can damage your body.
Water is water.

Water is not milk, coffee, soda, vegetables....yes it may be in those things but it does not can not replace water.

brower47

I would say yes add it if you feel like it but don't neglect water or replace water with milk. WATER IS WATER and your body needs water.

Your body gets water through anything that contains... wait for it... water. You could eat nothing but hydrating foods, never drink a drop of water and be absolutely healthy.

Your body does not differentiate between the water from a piece of fruit, a soda, a glass of milk or a glass of water. It still has the chemical make up of H2O and the body still processes it and uses it in the same manner.

Drink water if you're not getting enough hydration through other methods, don't drink water just because you can see through it.

You have been misinformed.

Explain how that is misinformed? Explain the biological process where the water from the watermelon I eat is somehow used differently by the body than water in my glass. Just one bit of rational information that contradicts what I wrote would tickle me pink.

Achrya

Milk better than water to rehydrate kids, study finds
Date:
August 23, 2011
Source:
McMaster University
Summary:
Children become dehydrated during exercise, and it's important they get enough fluids, particularly before going into a second round of a game. A new study by researchers in Canada found that milk is better than either a sports drink or water because it is a source of high quality protein, carbohydrates, calcium and electrolytes.

tive children need to be watered with milk. It's a more effective way of countering dehydration than a sports drink or water itself, say researchers at McMaster University.
That's particularly important during hot summer weather, says Brian Timmons, research director of the Child Health and Exercise Medicine Program at McMaster and principal investigator of the study.
"Children become dehydrated during exercise, and it's important they get enough fluids, particularly before going into a second round of a game. Milk is better than either a sports drink or water because it is a source of high quality protein, carbohydrates, calcium and electrolytes."
He added that milk replaces sodium lost in sweat and helps the body retain fluid better. As well, the milk provides protein needed by children for muscle development and growth which is not found in the other drinks.
The study of eight to 10-year-olds involved exercising in a climate chamber, then receiving a drink and being measured for hydration.
Timmons, an assistant professor of pediatrics of the Michael G. DeGroote School of Medicine, said active children and adults usually don't drink enough to stay hydrated during exercise, so they often have a "hydration disadvantage" when they start their next period of exercise.
He said that one per cent dehydration can have up to a 15 per cent decrease in performance, with an increased heart rate, core temperature and less ability to keep going. More significant dehydration comes with an increased risk of heat-related illness such as heat stroke.
Timmons' graduate student Kim Volterman will be presenting the research at the European Group of Pediatric Work Physiology XXVII Biennial Conference, being held Sept. 19-23 at the University of Exeter in the UK.


Milk wins. It is known

(I can copy paste stuff too, yay!)

brower47

1. Drinking Water Helps Maintain the Balance of Body Fluids. Your body is composed of about 60% water. The functions of these bodily fluids include digestion, absorption, circulation, creation of saliva, transportation of nutrients, and maintenance of body temperature.

"Through the posterior pituitary gland, your brain communicates with your kidneys and tells it how much water to excrete as urine or hold onto for reserves," says Guest, who is also an adjunct professor of medicine at Stanford University.

When you're low on fluids, the brain triggers the body's thirst mechanism. And unless you are taking medications that make you thirsty, Guest says, you should listen to those cues and get yourself a drink of water, juice, milk, coffee -- anything but alcohol.

"Alcohol interferes with the brain and kidney communication and causes excess excretion of fluids which can then lead to dehydration," he says.

2. Water Can Help Control Calories. For years, dieters have been drinking lots of water as a weight loss strategy. While water doesn't have any magical effect on weight loss, substituting it for higher calorie beverages can certainly help.

"What works with weight loss is if you choose water or a non-caloric beverage over a caloric beverage and/or eat a diet higher in water-rich foods that are healthier, more filling, and help you trim calorie intake," says Penn State researcher Barbara Rolls, PhD, author of The Volumetrics Weight Control Plan.

Food with high water content tends to look larger, its higher volume requires more chewing, and it is absorbed more slowly by the body, which helps you feel full. Water-rich foods include fruits, vegetables, broth-based soups, oatmeal, and beans.

3. Water Helps Energize Muscles. Cells that don't maintain their balance of fluids and electrolytes shrivel, which can result in muscle fatigue. "When muscle cells don't have adequate fluids, they don't work as well and performance can suffer," says Guest.

Drinking enough fluids is important when exercising. Follow the American College of Sports Medicine guidelines for fluid intake before and during physical activity. These guidelines recommend that people drink about 17 ounces of fluid about two hours before exercise. During exercise, they recommend that people start drinking fluids early, and drink them at regular intervals to replace fluids lost by sweating.

4. Water Helps Keep Skin Looking Good. Your skin contains plenty of water, and functions as a protective barrier to prevent excess fluid loss. But don't expect over-hydration to erase wrinkles or fine lines, says Atlanta dermatologist Kenneth Ellner, MD.

"Dehydration makes your skin look more dry and wrinkled, which can be improved with proper hydration," he says. "But once you are adequately hydrated, the kidneys take over and excrete excess fluids."











You can also help "lock" moisture into your skin by using moisturizer, which creates a physical barrier to keep moisture in.

5. Water Helps Your Kidneys. Body fluids transport waste products in and out of cells. The main toxin in the body is blood urea nitrogen, a water-soluble waste that is able to pass through the kidneys to be excreted in the urine, explains Guest. "Your kidneys do an amazing job of cleansing and ridding your body of toxins as long as your intake of fluids is adequate," he says.

When you're getting enough fluids, urine flows freely, is light in color and free of odor. When your body is not getting enough fluids, urine concentration, color, and odor increases because the kidneys trap extra fluid for bodily functions.

If you chronically drink too little, you may be at higher risk for kidney stones, especially in warm climates, Guest warns.

6. Water Helps Maintain Normal Bowel Function. Adequate hydration keeps things flowing along your gastrointestinal tract and prevents constipation. When you don't get enough fluid, the colon pulls water from stools to maintain hydration -- and the result is constipation.

"Adequate fluid and fiber is the perfect combination, because the fluid pumps up the fiber and acts like a broom to keep your bowel functioning properly," says Koelemay.



If you fail to drink enough water you can damage your body.
Water is water.

Water is not milk, coffee, soda, vegetables....yes it may be in those things but it does not can not replace water.

Congrats, in all that copy pasta, you didn't contradict that water from sources other than a glass of water are somehow less hydrating.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

1. Drinking Water Helps Maintain the Balance of Body Fluids. Your body is composed of about 60% water. The functions of these bodily fluids include digestion, absorption, circulation, creation of saliva, transportation of nutrients, and maintenance of body temperature.

"Through the posterior pituitary gland, your brain communicates with your kidneys and tells it how much water to excrete as urine or hold onto for reserves," says Guest, who is also an adjunct professor of medicine at Stanford University.

When you're low on fluids, the brain triggers the body's thirst mechanism. And unless you are taking medications that make you thirsty, Guest says, you should listen to those cues and get yourself a drink of water, juice, milk, coffee -- anything but alcohol.

"Alcohol interferes with the brain and kidney communication and causes excess excretion of fluids which can then lead to dehydration," he says.

2. Water Can Help Control Calories. For years, dieters have been drinking lots of water as a weight loss strategy. While water doesn't have any magical effect on weight loss, substituting it for higher calorie beverages can certainly help.

"What works with weight loss is if you choose water or a non-caloric beverage over a caloric beverage and/or eat a diet higher in water-rich foods that are healthier, more filling, and help you trim calorie intake," says Penn State researcher Barbara Rolls, PhD, author of The Volumetrics Weight Control Plan.

Food with high water content tends to look larger, its higher volume requires more chewing, and it is absorbed more slowly by the body, which helps you feel full. Water-rich foods include fruits, vegetables, broth-based soups, oatmeal, and beans.

3. Water Helps Energize Muscles. Cells that don't maintain their balance of fluids and electrolytes shrivel, which can result in muscle fatigue. "When muscle cells don't have adequate fluids, they don't work as well and performance can suffer," says Guest.

Drinking enough fluids is important when exercising. Follow the American College of Sports Medicine guidelines for fluid intake before and during physical activity. These guidelines recommend that people drink about 17 ounces of fluid about two hours before exercise. During exercise, they recommend that people start drinking fluids early, and drink them at regular intervals to replace fluids lost by sweating.

4. Water Helps Keep Skin Looking Good. Your skin contains plenty of water, and functions as a protective barrier to prevent excess fluid loss. But don't expect over-hydration to erase wrinkles or fine lines, says Atlanta dermatologist Kenneth Ellner, MD.

"Dehydration makes your skin look more dry and wrinkled, which can be improved with proper hydration," he says. "But once you are adequately hydrated, the kidneys take over and excrete excess fluids."











You can also help "lock" moisture into your skin by using moisturizer, which creates a physical barrier to keep moisture in.

5. Water Helps Your Kidneys. Body fluids transport waste products in and out of cells. The main toxin in the body is blood urea nitrogen, a water-soluble waste that is able to pass through the kidneys to be excreted in the urine, explains Guest. "Your kidneys do an amazing job of cleansing and ridding your body of toxins as long as your intake of fluids is adequate," he says.

When you're getting enough fluids, urine flows freely, is light in color and free of odor. When your body is not getting enough fluids, urine concentration, color, and odor increases because the kidneys trap extra fluid for bodily functions.

If you chronically drink too little, you may be at higher risk for kidney stones, especially in warm climates, Guest warns.

6. Water Helps Maintain Normal Bowel Function. Adequate hydration keeps things flowing along your gastrointestinal tract and prevents constipation. When you don't get enough fluid, the colon pulls water from stools to maintain hydration -- and the result is constipation.

"Adequate fluid and fiber is the perfect combination, because the fluid pumps up the fiber and acts like a broom to keep your bowel functioning properly," says Koelemay.



If you fail to drink enough water you can damage your body.
Water is water.

Water is not milk, coffee, soda, vegetables....yes it may be in those things but it does not can not replace water.

Your source disagrees with you.

Iron_Feline

No where in your overly long and uncited copy and paste does it say that water is water in fact

Guest says, you should listen to those cues and get yourself a drink of water, juice, milk, coffee -- anything but alcohol.

Would seem to support mine and browsers argument. Not your own :bigsmile:

Iron_Feline

Hmmm everyone else beat me to it. :grumble:

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Hmmm everyone else beat me to it. :grumble:

:smooched:

Achrya

What about the advice to drink eight glasses a day?

Everyone has heard the advice, "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day." That's about 1.9 liters, which isn't that different from the Institute of Medicine recommendations. Although the "8 by 8" rule isn't supported by hard evidence, it remains popular because it's easy to remember. Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/water/art-20044256

SomeNights246

Well I'm trying to bulk (only 146 lbs at the moment).

Then I'd say it sounds like a good idea for you.

I was going to say the only bad thing about doing so is that the calories would add up quickly (about 150 per 8 fl ounces), but if you want to bulk up, I could see it being beneficial.

_John_

so if one was marooned on an island with no fresh water source, no way to distill water from the sea, and an unlimited supply of beer they would die of dehydration by drinking the beer?

brower47

No where in your overly long and uncited copy and paste does it say that water is water in fact

Guest says, you should listen to those cues and get yourself a drink of water, juice, milk, coffee -- anything but alcohol.

Would seem to support mine and browsers argument. Not your own :bigsmile:

Don't you hate it when you google something, don't read it, paste it to a forum to "support" your argument but then it backfires egregiously and makes you look... misinformed?

Iron_Feline

so if one was marooned on an island with no fresh water source, no way to distill water from the sea, and an unlimited supply of beer they would die of dehydration by drinking the beer?

According to some people yes.

But what a way to go

Achrya

No where in your overly long and uncited copy and paste does it say that water is water in fact

Guest says, you should listen to those cues and get yourself a drink of water, juice, milk, coffee -- anything but alcohol.

Would seem to support mine and browsers argument. Not your own :bigsmile:

Don't you hate it when you google something, don't read it, paste it to a forum to "support" your argument but then it backfires egregiously and makes you look... misinformed?

What you did there, I see it.

trinacrick

I am in no way an expert but I will relay this story to you. When my nephew was around 7 years old, his parents were concerned about how thin he was and consulted a doctor. One of the questions they were asked was how much milk he was drinking. He apparently not only drank glasses of milk with meals, but also at other times during the day. The doctor suggested that the milk may be filling him up so he wasn't as hungry at meals as he should be. They started limiting the milk and he did eat better. He was (and still is) always slim, but looked much healthier. Something to consider if you are trying to bulk up.