Going Paleo

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  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I sent a friend request. You can have access to my diary. I eat 2100 calories a day and am losing right now. I do eat about 130-140g protein a day (fat is at 60g) the rest is carbs. Maybe a more moderate approach but more flexibility when i need it. Accept or reject but i thought i would help by giving you a window into what is working for me (which may or may not work for you.

    My diary is open as well to all..I eat 2000 calories a day (as a woman so you could use my diary easily) My protien is usually at 120g, fat at 55 I think.

    I eat a lot of odd food combos tho...like eggs and shrimp today for breakfast...hehe

    My husband works shift work...2 days 2 nights and he does fine...he pretty much eats what I do minus the seafood.

    I preplan my diary as well (makes it easy for me to tweek as necessary )

    As well if you see anything in there like shredded wheat brown bread..it's homemade...I will gladly share the recipe.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here. You get ridiculed and heavily criticized and told your idea is a "fad diet". You're better off joining one of the paleo groups or one of the low-carb groups.

    Low carb and paleo are two entirely different concepts though. People criticize diets that demonize certain foods without any scientific justification. If it works for you, that's great. But, you can lose weight without cutting out carbs if you want to. It's a matter of personal preference.

    I did not ridicule at all just another suggestion and it's not from lack of knowledge either.

    I don't care what people eat or don't eat but I won't let them believe that a "diet" is better than just eating food.
  • leodru
    leodru Posts: 321 Member
    and for the record this is not a cross-fit thread.....
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here. You get ridiculed and heavily criticized and told your idea is a "fad diet". You're better off joining one of the paleo groups or one of the low-carb groups.

    Low carb and paleo are two entirely different concepts though. People criticize diets that demonize certain foods without any scientific justification. If it works for you, that's great. But, you can lose weight without cutting out carbs if you want to. It's a matter of personal preference.

    I did not ridicule at all just another suggestion and it's not from lack of knowledge either.

    I don't care what people eat or don't eat but I won't let them believe that a "diet" is better than just eating food.

    Exactly. That's what I said. Or, are you referring to the post prior?
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here. You get ridiculed and heavily criticized and told your idea is a "fad diet". You're better off joining one of the paleo groups or one of the low-carb groups.

    I've seen a lot of helpful feedback on paleo and a lot of not-so-helpful mocking of cross-fit. However, the fact of the matter is that you don't need to eat low-carb if you don't have a medical condition that demands it. The decision to adopt a paleo diet is a personal one, just like adopting any diet, but it's probably not sustainable over time for most people because it is so restrictive. Why not just eat in moderation from all food groups and stay away from restrictive rules?
  • NCDJ2013
    NCDJ2013 Posts: 43 Member
    Why is organic "healthier"?
    The idea is to avoid pesticides, GMO's, hormones and antibiotics.

    Have you ever looked at what is allowed in "organic" foods? Here is a list...

    Non-Organic Agriculture Products Allowed:
    Read the label and avoid processed foods like the plague. Duh.
    •Casings, from processed intestines.
    •Celery powder.
    •Chia ( Salvia hispanica L. ).
    •Colors derived from agricultural products.
    •Annatto extract color—water and oil soluble.
    •Beet juice extract color
    •Beta-carotene extract color, derived from carrots
    •Black currant juice color
    •Black/Purple carrot juice color
    •Blueberry juice color
    •Carrot juice color
    •Cherry juice color
    •Chokeberry—Aronia juice color
    •Elderberry juice color
    •Grape juice color
    •Grape skin extract color
    •Paprika color —dried, and oil extracted.
    •Pumpkin juice color
    •Purple potato juice
    •Red cabbage extract color
    •Red radish extract color
    •Saffron extract color
    •Turmeric extract color
    •Dillweed oil
    •Fish oil —stabilized with organic ingredients or only with ingredients on the National List
    •Fortified cooking wines.
    •Marsala.
    •Sherry.
    •Fructooligosaccharides
    •Galangal, frozen.
    •Gelatin
    •Gums—water extracted only (Arabic; Guar; Locust bean; and Carob bean).
    •Hops ( Humulus luplus ).
    •Inulin-oligofructose enriched
    •Kelp—for use only as a thickener and dietary supplement.
    •Konjac flour
    •Lecithin—de-oiled.
    •Lemongrass—frozen.
    •Orange pulp, dried.
    •Orange shellac-unbleached
    •Pectin (high-methoxy).
    •Peppers (Chipotle chile).
    •Seaweed, Pacific kombu.
    •Starches.
    •Cornstarch (native).
    •Rice starch, unmodified —for use in organic handling until June 21, 2009.
    •Sweet potato starch—for bean thread production only.
    •Tragacanth gum
    •Turkish bay leaves.
    •Wakame seaweed ( Undaria pinnatifida ).
    •Whey protein concentrate

    Non-Synthetic Allowed:
    •Acids (Alginic; Citric—produced by microbial fermentation of carbohydrate substances; and Lactic).
    •Agar-agar.
    •Animal enzymes—(Rennet—animals derived; Catalase—bovine liver; Animal lipase; Pancreatin; Pepsin; and Trypsin).
    •Bentonite.
    •Calcium carbonate.
    •Calcium chloride.
    •Calcium sulfate—mined.
    •Carrageenan.
    •Dairy cultures.
    •Diatomaceous earth—food filtering aid only.
    •Egg white lysozyme
    •Enzymes—must be derived from edible, nontoxic plants, nonpathogenic fungi, or nonpathogenic bacteria.
    •Flavors, nonsynthetic sources only and must not be produced using synthetic solvents and carrier systems or any artificial preservative.
    •Gellan gum —high-acyl form only.
    •Glucono delta-lactone—production by the oxidation of D-glucose with bromine water is prohibited.
    •Kaolin.
    •L-Malic acid
    •Magnesium sulfate, nonsynthetic sources only.
    •Microorganisms—any food grade bacteria, fungi, and other microorganism.
    •Nitrogen—oil-free grades.
    •Oxygen—oil-free grades.
    •Perlite—for use only as a filter aid in food processing.
    •Potassium chloride.
    •Potassium iodide.
    •Sodium bicarbonate.
    •Sodium carbonate.
    •Tartaric acid—made from grape wine.
    •Waxes—nonsynthetic (Carnauba wax; and Wood resin).
    •Yeast—nonsynthetic, growth on petrochemical substrate and sulfite waste liquor is prohibited (Autolysate; Bakers; Brewers; Nutritional; and Smoked—nonsynthetic smoke flavoring process must be documented)

    Synthetics Allowed:
    •Acidified sodium chlorite—Secondary direct antimicrobial food treatment and indirect food contact surface sanitizing. Acidified with citric acid only.
    •Activated charcoal —only from vegetative sources; for use only as a filtering aid.
    •Alginates.
    •Ammonium bicarbonate—for use only as a leavening agent.
    •Ammonium carbonate—for use only as a leavening agent.
    •Ascorbic acid.
    •Calcium citrate.
    •Calcium hydroxide.
    •Calcium phosphates (monobasic, dibasic, and tribasic).
    •Carbon dioxide.
    •Cellulose—for use in regenerative casings, as an anti-caking agent (non-chlorine bleached) and filtering aid.
    •Chlorine materials—disinfecting and sanitizing food contact surfaces, Except, That, residual chlorine levels in the water shall not exceed the maximum residual disinfectant limit under the Safe Drinking Water Act (Calcium hypochlorite; Chlorine dioxide; and Sodium hypochlorite).
    •Cyclohexylamine —for use only as a boiler water additive for packaging sterilization.
    •Diethylaminoethanol —for use only as a boiler water additive for packaging sterilization.
    •Ethylene—allowed for postharvest ripening of tropical fruit and degreening of citrus.
    •Ferrous sulfate—for iron enrichment or fortification of foods when required by regulation or recommended (independent organization).
    •Glycerides (mono and di)—for use only in drum drying of food.
    •Glycerin—produced by hydrolysis of fats and oils.
    •Hydrogen peroxide.
    •Magnesium carbonate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Magnesium chloride—derived from sea water.
    •Magnesium stearate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Nutrient vitamins and minerals, in accordance with 21 CFR 104.20, Nutritional Quality Guidelines For Foods.
    •Octadecylamine —for use only as a boiler water additive for packaging sterilization.
    •Ozone.
    •Pectin (low-methoxy).
    •Peracetic acid/Peroxyacetic acid —for use in wash and/or rinse water according to FDA limitations. For use as a sanitizer on food contact surfaces.
    •Phosphoric acid—cleaning of food-contact surfaces and equipment only.
    •Potassium acid tartrate.
    •Potassium carbonate.
    •Potassium citrate.
    •Potassium hydroxide—prohibited for use in lye peeling of fruits and vegetables except when used for peeling peaches during the Individually Quick Frozen (IQF) production process.
    •Potassium iodide—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Potassium phosphate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specific ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Silicon dioxide.
    •Sodium acid pyrophosphate —for use only as a leavening agent.
    •Sodium citrate.
    •Sodium hydroxide—prohibited for use in lye peeling of fruits and vegetables.
    •Sodium phosphates—for use only in dairy foods.
    •Sulfur dioxide—for use only in wine labeled “made with organic grapes,” Provided, That, total sulfite concentration does not exceed 100 ppm.
    •Tartaric acid—made from malic acid.
    •Tetrasodium pyrophosphate (CAS # 7722–88–5)—for use only in meat analog products.
    •Tocopherols—derived from vegetable oil when rosemary extracts are not a suitable alternative.
    •Xanthan gum
  • NCDJ2013
    NCDJ2013 Posts: 43 Member
    Why is organic "healthier"?
    The idea is to avoid pesticides, GMO's, hormones and antibiotics.

    Have you ever looked at what is allowed in "organic" foods? Here is a list...

    Non-Organic Agriculture Products Allowed:
    Read the label and avoid processed foods like the plague. Duh.
    •Casings, from processed intestines.
    •Celery powder.
    •Chia ( Salvia hispanica L. ).
    •Colors derived from agricultural products.
    •Annatto extract color—water and oil soluble.
    •Beet juice extract color
    •Beta-carotene extract color, derived from carrots
    •Black currant juice color
    •Black/Purple carrot juice color
    •Blueberry juice color
    •Carrot juice color
    •Cherry juice color
    •Chokeberry—Aronia juice color
    •Elderberry juice color
    •Grape juice color
    •Grape skin extract color
    •Paprika color —dried, and oil extracted.
    •Pumpkin juice color
    •Purple potato juice
    •Red cabbage extract color
    •Red radish extract color
    •Saffron extract color
    •Turmeric extract color
    •Dillweed oil
    •Fish oil —stabilized with organic ingredients or only with ingredients on the National List
    •Fortified cooking wines.
    •Marsala.
    •Sherry.
    •Fructooligosaccharides
    •Galangal, frozen.
    •Gelatin
    •Gums—water extracted only (Arabic; Guar; Locust bean; and Carob bean).
    •Hops ( Humulus luplus ).
    •Inulin-oligofructose enriched
    •Kelp—for use only as a thickener and dietary supplement.
    •Konjac flour
    •Lecithin—de-oiled.
    •Lemongrass—frozen.
    •Orange pulp, dried.
    •Orange shellac-unbleached
    •Pectin (high-methoxy).
    •Peppers (Chipotle chile).
    •Seaweed, Pacific kombu.
    •Starches.
    •Cornstarch (native).
    •Rice starch, unmodified —for use in organic handling until June 21, 2009.
    •Sweet potato starch—for bean thread production only.
    •Tragacanth gum
    •Turkish bay leaves.
    •Wakame seaweed ( Undaria pinnatifida ).
    •Whey protein concentrate

    Non-Synthetic Allowed:
    •Acids (Alginic; Citric—produced by microbial fermentation of carbohydrate substances; and Lactic).
    •Agar-agar.
    •Animal enzymes—(Rennet—animals derived; Catalase—bovine liver; Animal lipase; Pancreatin; Pepsin; and Trypsin).
    •Bentonite.
    •Calcium carbonate.
    •Calcium chloride.
    •Calcium sulfate—mined.
    •Carrageenan.
    •Dairy cultures.
    •Diatomaceous earth—food filtering aid only.
    •Egg white lysozyme
    •Enzymes—must be derived from edible, nontoxic plants, nonpathogenic fungi, or nonpathogenic bacteria.
    •Flavors, nonsynthetic sources only and must not be produced using synthetic solvents and carrier systems or any artificial preservative.
    •Gellan gum —high-acyl form only.
    •Glucono delta-lactone—production by the oxidation of D-glucose with bromine water is prohibited.
    •Kaolin.
    •L-Malic acid
    •Magnesium sulfate, nonsynthetic sources only.
    •Microorganisms—any food grade bacteria, fungi, and other microorganism.
    •Nitrogen—oil-free grades.
    •Oxygen—oil-free grades.
    •Perlite—for use only as a filter aid in food processing.
    •Potassium chloride.
    •Potassium iodide.
    •Sodium bicarbonate.
    •Sodium carbonate.
    •Tartaric acid—made from grape wine.
    •Waxes—nonsynthetic (Carnauba wax; and Wood resin).
    •Yeast—nonsynthetic, growth on petrochemical substrate and sulfite waste liquor is prohibited (Autolysate; Bakers; Brewers; Nutritional; and Smoked—nonsynthetic smoke flavoring process must be documented)

    Synthetics Allowed:
    •Acidified sodium chlorite—Secondary direct antimicrobial food treatment and indirect food contact surface sanitizing. Acidified with citric acid only.
    •Activated charcoal —only from vegetative sources; for use only as a filtering aid.
    •Alginates.
    •Ammonium bicarbonate—for use only as a leavening agent.
    •Ammonium carbonate—for use only as a leavening agent.
    •Ascorbic acid.
    •Calcium citrate.
    •Calcium hydroxide.
    •Calcium phosphates (monobasic, dibasic, and tribasic).
    •Carbon dioxide.
    •Cellulose—for use in regenerative casings, as an anti-caking agent (non-chlorine bleached) and filtering aid.
    •Chlorine materials—disinfecting and sanitizing food contact surfaces, Except, That, residual chlorine levels in the water shall not exceed the maximum residual disinfectant limit under the Safe Drinking Water Act (Calcium hypochlorite; Chlorine dioxide; and Sodium hypochlorite).
    •Cyclohexylamine —for use only as a boiler water additive for packaging sterilization.
    •Diethylaminoethanol —for use only as a boiler water additive for packaging sterilization.
    •Ethylene—allowed for postharvest ripening of tropical fruit and degreening of citrus.
    •Ferrous sulfate—for iron enrichment or fortification of foods when required by regulation or recommended (independent organization).
    •Glycerides (mono and di)—for use only in drum drying of food.
    •Glycerin—produced by hydrolysis of fats and oils.
    •Hydrogen peroxide.
    •Magnesium carbonate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Magnesium chloride—derived from sea water.
    •Magnesium stearate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Nutrient vitamins and minerals, in accordance with 21 CFR 104.20, Nutritional Quality Guidelines For Foods.
    •Octadecylamine —for use only as a boiler water additive for packaging sterilization.
    •Ozone.
    •Pectin (low-methoxy).
    •Peracetic acid/Peroxyacetic acid —for use in wash and/or rinse water according to FDA limitations. For use as a sanitizer on food contact surfaces.
    •Phosphoric acid—cleaning of food-contact surfaces and equipment only.
    •Potassium acid tartrate.
    •Potassium carbonate.
    •Potassium citrate.
    •Potassium hydroxide—prohibited for use in lye peeling of fruits and vegetables except when used for peeling peaches during the Individually Quick Frozen (IQF) production process.
    •Potassium iodide—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Potassium phosphate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specific ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.
    •Silicon dioxide.
    •Sodium acid pyrophosphate —for use only as a leavening agent.
    •Sodium citrate.
    •Sodium hydroxide—prohibited for use in lye peeling of fruits and vegetables.
    •Sodium phosphates—for use only in dairy foods.
    •Sulfur dioxide—for use only in wine labeled “made with organic grapes,” Provided, That, total sulfite concentration does not exceed 100 ppm.
    •Tartaric acid—made from malic acid.
    •Tetrasodium pyrophosphate (CAS # 7722–88–5)—for use only in meat analog products.
    •Tocopherols—derived from vegetable oil when rosemary extracts are not a suitable alternative.
    •Xanthan gum

    Read the label and avoid processed foods like the plague. Duh. You have to do the best you can and try to stick with whole REAL food.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here.

    "Paelo" isn't low carb.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member

    Read the label and avoid processed foods like the plague. Duh. You have to do the best you can and try to stick with whole REAL food.

    What is and isn't REAL food.

    I'm confident everything I eat is REAL food. I touch it, smell it, taste it, see it, I'm not dreaming it, it must be REAL.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here.

    "Paelo" isn't low carb.

    I'm pretty sure it's a form of low carb, but you also don't eat dairy. At least that's what I read when I looked it up. Unless I'm mistaken, but I also don't eat that way so it's possible I am mistaken.
  • NCDJ2013
    NCDJ2013 Posts: 43 Member

    Read the label and avoid processed foods like the plague. Duh. You have to do the best you can and try to stick with whole REAL food.

    What is and isn't REAL food.

    I'm confident everything I eat is REAL food. I touch it, smell it, taste it, see it, I'm not dreaming it, it must be REAL.

    Food in a box. This is just getting silly now. Most people should be able to recognize processed, factory made "food".
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member

    Read the label and avoid processed foods like the plague. Duh. You have to do the best you can and try to stick with whole REAL food.

    What is and isn't REAL food.

    I'm confident everything I eat is REAL food. I touch it, smell it, taste it, see it, I'm not dreaming it, it must be REAL.

    Food in a box. This is just getting silly now. Most people should be able to recognize processed, factory made "food".

    still Real food! and still delicious!
  • LifeWithPie
    LifeWithPie Posts: 552 Member


    Read the label and avoid processed foods like the plague. Duh.You have to do the best you can and try to stick with whole REAL food.

    Less than 20 posts on the forums and you're already saying 'duh' to people. How charming.
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  • You are "all wrong", it's science, what works for me will work for another human unless they have a medical issue. It's very basic stuff, most of the time the people who say "it doesn't work for me" are just doing it wrong, don't blame the system, it's user error...
    I'm not sure this is actually true either. Epigenetics would indicate that we might be quite a bit more individual than you're allowing here.

    http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/

    "As an organism grows and develops, carefully orchestrated chemical reactions activate and deactivate parts of the genome at strategic times and in specific locations. Epigenetics is the study of these chemical reactions and the factors that influence them."

    While conditions like gestational diabetes are obvious enough to be easily tracked, it doesn't seem out of the range of possibility that smaller, less obvious things like the effect of different foods on our systems, etc. couldn't also be impacted by epigenetic tags.

    Of course, I am far from a scientist, but here are a couple of interesting quotes:

    "Even into old age, cells continue to listen for signals. Environmental signals trigger changes in the epigenome, allowing cells to respond dynamically to the outside world. Internal signals direct activities that are necessary for body maintenance, such as replenishing blood cells and skin, and repairing damaged tissues and organs. During these processes, just like during embryonic development, the cell's experiences are transferred to the epigenome, where they shut down and activate specific sets of genes."

    "Epigenetic marks can pass from parent to offspring in a way that completely bypasses egg or sperm, thus avoiding the epigenetic purging that happens during early development.
    Most of us were taught that our traits are hard-coded in the DNA that passes from parent to offspring. Emerging information about epigenetics may lead us to a new understanding of just what inheritance is."

    Now I might be grossly misinterpreting the information here and, from what I gather, our understanding of these processes is far from complete at the moment, but I think there's enough here to at least allow for the possibility that our bodies might be more individual than your dogmatic statement allows.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member

    How so? "Baby" carrots are actually carrots that have been peeled and trimmed.
  • mayfrayy
    mayfrayy Posts: 198 Member
    i hope none of you who go paleo/organic because its healthier wear glasses, them things are unnatural and cavemen never would have worn them.

    please l2science,
  • Krizzle4Rizzle
    Krizzle4Rizzle Posts: 2,704 Member
    Hi there

    I have been doing Paleo / Primal for the past 3 years. I lost 23kgs (50.6 pounds) over a 6 month period. I exercise regularly, but not heavy. Read Marks Sisson's The Daily Apple for a comprehensive, sensible guide to the switch over. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

    I am female, 52yo and stronger, healthier and happier than ever.

    It is difficult to adhere to the 'cult' like movements with some of these eating plans. Do the best with what you can get. Free range eggs, chicken, beef etc. If unobtainable, buy the best quality you can get.

    Drop all grains, legumes, sugar and dairy. If you can. Mark says 80/20 is better than SAD!

    Careful of alcohol. I love single malt whiskies and thought a tot or two a night won't matter. That is the ONLY time I gained back some of my weight, about 3kgs.

    Give it a go - you can thank me later..;-D

    I was just wondering why you have to cut out legumes?
  • leodru
    leodru Posts: 321 Member
    Hi there

    I have been doing Paleo / Primal for the past 3 years. I lost 23kgs (50.6 pounds) over a 6 month period. I exercise regularly, but not heavy. Read Marks Sisson's The Daily Apple for a comprehensive, sensible guide to the switch over. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

    I am female, 52yo and stronger, healthier and happier than ever.

    It is difficult to adhere to the 'cult' like movements with some of these eating plans. Do the best with what you can get. Free range eggs, chicken, beef etc. If unobtainable, buy the best quality you can get.

    Drop all grains, legumes, sugar and dairy. If you can. Mark says 80/20 is better than SAD!

    Careful of alcohol. I love single malt whiskies and thought a tot or two a night won't matter. That is the ONLY time I gained back some of my weight, about 3kgs.

    Give it a go - you can thank me later..;-D

    I was just wondering why you have to cut out legumes?

    From a paleo site "Like grains and pseudograins, legumes contain phytic acid. Phytic acid binds to nutrients in the food, preventing you from absorbing them. It doesn’t steal any nutrients that are already in your body, but it does make that bowl of lentils a lot less nutrient-dense than the Nutrition Facts panel would have you believe. "

    Who knew food was stealing nutrients from other food? It turns out food really does have a dark side.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    Hi there

    I have been doing Paleo / Primal for the past 3 years. I lost 23kgs (50.6 pounds) over a 6 month period. I exercise regularly, but not heavy. Read Marks Sisson's The Daily Apple for a comprehensive, sensible guide to the switch over. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

    I am female, 52yo and stronger, healthier and happier than ever.

    It is difficult to adhere to the 'cult' like movements with some of these eating plans. Do the best with what you can get. Free range eggs, chicken, beef etc. If unobtainable, buy the best quality you can get.

    Drop all grains, legumes, sugar and dairy. If you can. Mark says 80/20 is better than SAD!

    Careful of alcohol. I love single malt whiskies and thought a tot or two a night won't matter. That is the ONLY time I gained back some of my weight, about 3kgs.

    Give it a go - you can thank me later..;-D

    I was just wondering why you have to cut out legumes?

    From a paleo site "Like grains and pseudograins, legumes contain phytic acid. Phytic acid binds to nutrients in the food, preventing you from absorbing them. It doesn’t steal any nutrients that are already in your body, but it does make that bowl of lentils a lot less nutrient-dense than the Nutrition Facts panel would have you believe. "

    Who knew food was stealing nutrients from other food? It turns out food really does have a dark side.

    I see a biased opinion in the bolded.
  • leodru
    leodru Posts: 321 Member
    Hi there

    I have been doing Paleo / Primal for the past 3 years. I lost 23kgs (50.6 pounds) over a 6 month period. I exercise regularly, but not heavy. Read Marks Sisson's The Daily Apple for a comprehensive, sensible guide to the switch over. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

    I am female, 52yo and stronger, healthier and happier than ever.

    It is difficult to adhere to the 'cult' like movements with some of these eating plans. Do the best with what you can get. Free range eggs, chicken, beef etc. If unobtainable, buy the best quality you can get.

    Drop all grains, legumes, sugar and dairy. If you can. Mark says 80/20 is better than SAD!

    Careful of alcohol. I love single malt whiskies and thought a tot or two a night won't matter. That is the ONLY time I gained back some of my weight, about 3kgs.

    Give it a go - you can thank me later..;-D

    I was just wondering why you have to cut out legumes?

    From a paleo site "Like grains and pseudograins, legumes contain phytic acid. Phytic acid binds to nutrients in the food, preventing you from absorbing them. It doesn’t steal any nutrients that are already in your body, but it does make that bowl of lentils a lot less nutrient-dense than the Nutrition Facts panel would have you believe. "

    Who knew food was stealing nutrients from other food? It turns out food really does have a dark side.

    I see a biased opinion in the bolded.

    I thought my sarcasm was obvious......
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    Hi there

    I have been doing Paleo / Primal for the past 3 years. I lost 23kgs (50.6 pounds) over a 6 month period. I exercise regularly, but not heavy. Read Marks Sisson's The Daily Apple for a comprehensive, sensible guide to the switch over. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

    I am female, 52yo and stronger, healthier and happier than ever.

    It is difficult to adhere to the 'cult' like movements with some of these eating plans. Do the best with what you can get. Free range eggs, chicken, beef etc. If unobtainable, buy the best quality you can get.

    Drop all grains, legumes, sugar and dairy. If you can. Mark says 80/20 is better than SAD!

    Careful of alcohol. I love single malt whiskies and thought a tot or two a night won't matter. That is the ONLY time I gained back some of my weight, about 3kgs.

    Give it a go - you can thank me later..;-D

    I was just wondering why you have to cut out legumes?

    From a paleo site "Like grains and pseudograins, legumes contain phytic acid. Phytic acid binds to nutrients in the food, preventing you from absorbing them. It doesn’t steal any nutrients that are already in your body, but it does make that bowl of lentils a lot less nutrient-dense than the Nutrition Facts panel would have you believe. "

    Who knew food was stealing nutrients from other food? It turns out food really does have a dark side.

    I see a biased opinion in the bolded.

    I thought my sarcasm was obvious......

    It was....I'm just really bored at work today
  • leodru
    leodru Posts: 321 Member
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    It was....I'm just really bored at work today
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    That makes 2 of us.
  • establishingaplace
    establishingaplace Posts: 301 Member
    Hi there

    I have been doing Paleo / Primal for the past 3 years. I lost 23kgs (50.6 pounds) over a 6 month period. I exercise regularly, but not heavy. Read Marks Sisson's The Daily Apple for a comprehensive, sensible guide to the switch over. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

    I am female, 52yo and stronger, healthier and happier than ever.

    It is difficult to adhere to the 'cult' like movements with some of these eating plans. Do the best with what you can get. Free range eggs, chicken, beef etc. If unobtainable, buy the best quality you can get.

    Drop all grains, legumes, sugar and dairy. If you can. Mark says 80/20 is better than SAD!

    Careful of alcohol. I love single malt whiskies and thought a tot or two a night won't matter. That is the ONLY time I gained back some of my weight, about 3kgs.

    Give it a go - you can thank me later..;-D

    I was just wondering why you have to cut out legumes?

    From a paleo site "Like grains and pseudograins, legumes contain phytic acid. Phytic acid binds to nutrients in the food, preventing you from absorbing them. It doesn’t steal any nutrients that are already in your body, but it does make that bowl of lentils a lot less nutrient-dense than the Nutrition Facts panel would have you believe. "

    Who knew food was stealing nutrients from other food? It turns out food really does have a dark side.

    Don't all vegetables contain phytic acid?
  • dayone987
    dayone987 Posts: 645 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here.

    "Paelo" isn't low carb.

    I'm pretty sure it's a form of low carb, but you also don't eat dairy. At least that's what I read when I looked it up. Unless I'm mistaken, but I also don't eat that way so it's possible I am mistaken.

    Paleo can be low carb but allows for rice, sweet potatoes, and a variety of higher carb fruits and vegetables.
    The last time I looked on the daily apple website, I think I read that white potatoes are now ok.

    Many people following Paleo also adhere to the 80/20 guideline so you could include all sorts of grains and high sugar/carb foods into the 20%.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Mark Sissons thoughts on legumes has changed recently, he still recommends limiting them, but no longer advocates avoiding them all together.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here.

    "Paelo" isn't low carb.

    It can be if you want it to - so can IIFYM.:smile:
  • leodru
    leodru Posts: 321 Member
    The phytic acid thing seems to be a bit of a rats nest for Paleo - Peanuts are out but Walnuts are in but they contain the same phytic acid levels. Buy phytic acid levels are the reason for eliminating legumes. One question just opens another - i think its basically either accept or move on. It has too many questions of "good" versus "bad" food for me. I guess cavemen knew they couldn't eat peanuts and potatoes but could eat walnuts - they must have had the paleo app in their smart phones.
  • HardyGirl4Ever
    HardyGirl4Ever Posts: 1,017 Member
    Why is organic "healthier"?

    Because they don't use chemicals such as pesticides.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    OP, this is what happens when people DARE to eat low-carb in any form on here.

    "Paelo" isn't low carb.

    I'm pretty sure it's a form of low carb, but you also don't eat dairy. At least that's what I read when I looked it up. Unless I'm mistaken, but I also don't eat that way so it's possible I am mistaken.

    Paleo can be low carb but allows for rice, sweet potatoes, and a variety of higher carb fruits and vegetables.
    The last time I looked on the daily apple website, I think I read that white potatoes are now ok.

    Many people following Paleo also adhere to the 80/20 guideline so you could include all sorts of grains and high sugar/carb foods into the 20%.

    Then you aren't following the Paleo lifestyle.
    That's like saying I eat vegan 80% of the time, but 20 % of the time I eat meat.

    Defeats the purpose of calling yourself Paleo.