3 Day Refresh

rjdunn87

Has anyone tried this yet? It's brand new but I'm wondering if any coaches who were able to get it at Summit have done it. Curious about some real results and experiences.

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donyellemoniquex3

What happens on day 4?

Wetcoaster

Has anyone tried this yet? It's brand new but I'm wondering if any coaches who were able to get it at Summit have done it. Curious about some real results and experiences.

Coaches......awesome....what are the "coaches" qualifications?

rjdunn87

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

brianpperkins

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

The truth just is .. it is neither negative nor positive. Looking to "coaches" with dubious qualifications to get a "reset" diet really doesn't pass the common sense test. Of course it is your money and your body to do with whatever you choose ... but gaining knowledge about how the body works quickly reveals how inane those programs truly are.

GiveMeCoffee

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

Where is the negativity I saw people ask good questions?

What happens on day 4 and what are the qualifications?

_HeartsOnFire_

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

Where is the negativity I saw people ask good questions?

What happens on day 4 and what are the qualifications?

Exactly. Those are valid questions. Not negative. People genuinely are curious as to what happens on day 4.

maz504

3 days of hot showers with expensive bath products --> instant refreshedness

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frankieags

I have gained success over those so called "programs" like never before... So exactly, why is there such negativity surrounding this. I've never felt better and realistically it worked and will work for anyone given commitment and some motivation. I guarantee it. I had nothing to lose becuz I had 30 days to rip them apart had I not succeeded, but I sure did! If you think tracking your calories on MFP will do the trick for you, so be it... nothing wrong with that either!

rjdunn87

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

The truth just is .. it is neither negative nor positive. Looking to "coaches" with dubious qualifications to get a "reset" diet really doesn't pass the common sense test. Of course it is your money and your body to do with whatever you choose ... but gaining knowledge about how the body works quickly reveals how inane those programs truly are.

I am one of those "coaches," I'm not looking for one. I guess I'm a bit confused as to why we're constantly being attacked for not having qualifications. I've never claimed to be a fitness expert or a nutritionist and I don't attempt to give my customers advice that I'm not qualified to give. I'm here to motivate and support people who are looking for some extra encouragement, that's it. I understand that some Beachbody coaches have given the rest of us a pretty bad reputation but I don't think it's fair to categorize all of us as quacks giving out false information.

On day 4, ideally, you've lost a few pounds of excess water weight and have regained some energy, and you continue with eating healthy and working out. Maybe you gain a pound or two of that water weight back. So what? I never claimed it was a magical weight loss solution, I was just asking for testimonials from those who have done it.

GiveMeCoffee

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

The truth just is .. it is neither negative nor positive. Looking to "coaches" with dubious qualifications to get a "reset" diet really doesn't pass the common sense test. Of course it is your money and your body to do with whatever you choose ... but gaining knowledge about how the body works quickly reveals how inane those programs truly are.

I am one of those "coaches," I'm not looking for one. I guess I'm a bit confused as to why we're constantly being attacked for not having qualifications. I've never claimed to be a fitness expert or a nutritionist and I don't attempt to give my customers advice that I'm not qualified to give. I'm here to motivate and support people who are looking for some extra encouragement, that's it. I understand that some Beachbody coaches have given the rest of us a pretty bad reputation but I don't think it's fair to categorize all of us as quacks giving out false information.

On day 4, ideally, you've lost a few pounds of excess water weight and have regained some energy, and you continue with eating healthy and working out. Maybe you gain a pound or two of that water weight back. So what? I never claimed it was a magical weight loss solution, I was just asking for testimonials from those who have done it.

Testimonials from others that you can use to further your business? No one attacked you, you were asked questions that is what adults do when there is something presented. Maybe you are a bit defensive. Does your motivation and support only come with a purchase of beachbody product?

kgeyser

Maybe people aren't jumping up and down because the boards have been saturated with Piyo and 3 day refresh threads since Summit. It's not nearly as annoying as the daily P90X3 countdowns we had, but it does walk the line of spam/advertising.

brianpperkins

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

The truth just is .. it is neither negative nor positive. Looking to "coaches" with dubious qualifications to get a "reset" diet really doesn't pass the common sense test. Of course it is your money and your body to do with whatever you choose ... but gaining knowledge about how the body works quickly reveals how inane those programs truly are.

I am one of those "coaches," I'm not looking for one. I guess I'm a bit confused as to why we're constantly being attacked for not having qualifications. I've never claimed to be a fitness expert or a nutritionist and I don't attempt to give my customers advice that I'm not qualified to give. I'm here to motivate and support people who are looking for some extra encouragement, that's it. I understand that some Beachbody coaches have given the rest of us a pretty bad reputation but I don't think it's fair to categorize all of us as quacks giving out false information.

On day 4, ideally, you've lost a few pounds of excess water weight and have regained some energy, and you continue with eating healthy and working out. Maybe you gain a pound or two of that water weight back. So what? I never claimed it was a magical weight loss solution, I was just asking for testimonials from those who have done it.

You're not a fitness expert nor a nutrionist ... so exactly what do you "coach"?

BTW ... you just undermined the entire premise of the refresh in your last paragraph.

_HeartsOnFire_

So I want to know, if you know what this is, why are you posting? Is it to try to drum up business via PM's on MFP? If so, please read the TOS that's also a violation.

rjdunn87

Actually no, most of the people who are listed as my customers have not purchased a single thing from me. One of the girls who I've been talking back and forth with just ordered Insanity from eBay rather than through Beachbody. It's not as if I stopped talking to her or answering her questions at that point. You're right that I'm probably a little defensive and that's my bad, but it is frustrating that any post related to Beachbody is immediately met with skepticism and negativity. Perhaps that blame should be placed on the fellow coaches of mine who have made this all about selling people stuff, but I still don't think it's fair to assume that all of us are that way.

Furthermore, no, I'm not posting to try to drum up sales. If that were the case, I would have posted something singing the praises of the program or trying to promote a challenge group. I wasn't asking what the program was, I asked if there were any real people out there with results, good or bad, to share. Not because I want to use them for my business, but because hey, maybe I'm actually interested in the product and am curious about results other than what Beachbody has released with their official informercials? Just because I'm a coach doesn't mean I'm going to blindly purchase every single product the company puts out there.

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rjdunn87

Maybe people aren't jumping up and down because the boards have been saturated with Piyo and 3 day refresh threads since Summit. It's not nearly as annoying as the daily P90X3 countdowns we had, but it does walk the line of spam/advertising.

I haven't seen a lot of 3 Day Refresh threads, actually I didn't see any in my brief scroll through the first few pages of this particular forum, so I'm sorry if I contributed to perceived spam but that wasn't my intention.

rjdunn87

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

The truth just is .. it is neither negative nor positive. Looking to "coaches" with dubious qualifications to get a "reset" diet really doesn't pass the common sense test. Of course it is your money and your body to do with whatever you choose ... but gaining knowledge about how the body works quickly reveals how inane those programs truly are.

I am one of those "coaches," I'm not looking for one. I guess I'm a bit confused as to why we're constantly being attacked for not having qualifications. I've never claimed to be a fitness expert or a nutritionist and I don't attempt to give my customers advice that I'm not qualified to give. I'm here to motivate and support people who are looking for some extra encouragement, that's it. I understand that some Beachbody coaches have given the rest of us a pretty bad reputation but I don't think it's fair to categorize all of us as quacks giving out false information.

On day 4, ideally, you've lost a few pounds of excess water weight and have regained some energy, and you continue with eating healthy and working out. Maybe you gain a pound or two of that water weight back. So what? I never claimed it was a magical weight loss solution, I was just asking for testimonials from those who have done it.

You're a coach? No surprise there.

Nice way of trying to prey on new clients. And violate TOS while you're at it.

Seriously? Did you read my last post? How is asking a question about the results of a program violating TOS?

_HeartsOnFire_

Geez, I don't even know why people bother on this site. Instant negativity.

The truth just is .. it is neither negative nor positive. Looking to "coaches" with dubious qualifications to get a "reset" diet really doesn't pass the common sense test. Of course it is your money and your body to do with whatever you choose ... but gaining knowledge about how the body works quickly reveals how inane those programs truly are.

I am one of those "coaches," I'm not looking for one. I guess I'm a bit confused as to why we're constantly being attacked for not having qualifications. I've never claimed to be a fitness expert or a nutritionist and I don't attempt to give my customers advice that I'm not qualified to give. I'm here to motivate and support people who are looking for some extra encouragement, that's it. I understand that some Beachbody coaches have given the rest of us a pretty bad reputation but I don't think it's fair to categorize all of us as quacks giving out false information.

On day 4, ideally, you've lost a few pounds of excess water weight and have regained some energy, and you continue with eating healthy and working out. Maybe you gain a pound or two of that water weight back. So what? I never claimed it was a magical weight loss solution, I was just asking for testimonials from those who have done it.

You're a coach? No surprise there.

Nice way of trying to prey on new clients. And violate TOS while you're at it.

Seriously? Did you read my last post? How is asking a question about the results of a program violating TOS?

He posted at the same time you did. So he probably didn't see it.

Lots of coaches do post things like this here to drum up business. In the community guidelines it does state that as a violation.

rjdunn87

I understand that, but I'm not here looking for sales. I asked a genuine question about a program I'm interested in. If I wasn't a coach and asked the same question, would that be a violation? Again, yes, I'm a Beachbody coach, I'm not hiding that. No, that does not mean that I'm going to immediately run out and purchase every single product the company releases because I worship at their feet. I want to hear from others who have done the program and seen results first, just like anyone else, coach or not.

_HeartsOnFire_

14. No Advertising, Self-Promotion, or Fund-Raising

a) You may not post any links or mentions of other services, websites, or businesses from which you or an associate might benefit financially or otherwise. This includes, but is not limited to; posts that contain links to offsite blog posts and social media. You also may not solicit off-Forum contact from which you might benefit, e.g. "message me for more info", “I can get you free samples”, etc.
b) Requests or solicitations for donations are also not allowed. This includes requesting contributions to “pooled fund” competitions, requests for votes in any venue (online contests, etc.), and even requests for charitable contributions. As you can imagine, we have a lot of people who would like to raise money for worthy causes through the site. As much as we'd like to support these causes, if we were to allow requests for donations, the forums would quickly become full of such requests which would take away from the main purpose of the forums - to support one another.
c) Posts or messages to members promoting websites that compete with MyFitnessPal are also prohibited.





Which granted you didn't do what is in bold, but typically this is how it all starts. Posting this, people posting 'success' others countering about this that or the other.

These messages, especially when the OP is a coach, do make people skeptical because there are a ton of coaches on here trying to sell products and spam. Not saying your one of those, but for every 1 that is not like that there are 10 that are doing that.

brianpperkins

I've just realized that the word "coach" is much nicer sounding than "bottom rung salesperson in a MLM program" ... however only the latter is accurate since even Beachbody "coaches" admit they are neither fitness experts nor nurtitionists.

rjdunn87

14. No Advertising, Self-Promotion, or Fund-Raising

a) You may not post any links or mentions of other services, websites, or businesses from which you or an associate might benefit financially or otherwise. This includes, but is not limited to; posts that contain links to offsite blog posts and social media. You also may not solicit off-Forum contact from which you might benefit, e.g. "message me for more info", “I can get you free samples”, etc.
b) Requests or solicitations for donations are also not allowed. This includes requesting contributions to “pooled fund” competitions, requests for votes in any venue (online contests, etc.), and even requests for charitable contributions. As you can imagine, we have a lot of people who would like to raise money for worthy causes through the site. As much as we'd like to support these causes, if we were to allow requests for donations, the forums would quickly become full of such requests which would take away from the main purpose of the forums - to support one another.
c) Posts or messages to members promoting websites that compete with MyFitnessPal are also prohibited.





Which granted you didn't do what is in bold, but typically this is how it all starts. Posting this, people posting 'success' others countering about this that or the other.

These messages, especially when the OP is a coach, do make people skeptical because there are a ton of coaches on here trying to sell products and spam. Not saying your one of those, but for every 1 that is not like that there are 10 that are doing that.

I do get that, and that's why I said that perhaps my frustration is more with those other 10 coaches then it is with those of you who react negatively toward Beachbody. I'm not naive or blind, I understand that there are a lot of sleazy salespeople associated with this company. However, like you said, I didn't do, nor did I plan to do, any of the things in the TOS, so why the immediate assumption that I have some kind of agenda other than what I posted? I don't. My agenda was to hear from people who have done the program. That's it.

kgeyser

Actually no, most of the people who are listed as my customers have not purchased a single thing from me. One of the girls who I've been talking back and forth with just ordered Insanity from eBay rather than through Beachbody. It's not as if I stopped talking to her or answering her questions at that point. You're right that I'm probably a little defensive and that's my bad, but it is frustrating that any post related to Beachbody is immediately met with skepticism and negativity. Perhaps that blame should be placed on the fellow coaches of mine who have made this all about selling people stuff, but I still don't think it's fair to assume that all of us are that way.

Furthermore, no, I'm not posting to try to drum up sales. If that were the case, I would have posted something singing the praises of the program or trying to promote a challenge group. I wasn't asking what the program was, I asked if there were any real people out there with results, good or bad, to share. Not because I want to use them for my business, but because hey, maybe I'm actually interested in the product and am curious about results other than what Beachbody has released with their official informercials? Just because I'm a coach doesn't mean I'm going to blindly purchase every single product the company puts out there.

I understand what you are saying, but look at it from our perspective. If you just wanted info, wouldn't your coaches' group or the BB forums be a more appropriate place to ask since only coaches have it? That's why people are saying this is advertising/selling.

Although I am relieved to finally see a BB coach admit that they promote challenge groups here to drum up sales. It's much better than the "No, I just really want to support and motivate people…even though I never respond to any post that isn't about BB" line that we usually see.

rjdunn87

Actually no, most of the people who are listed as my customers have not purchased a single thing from me. One of the girls who I've been talking back and forth with just ordered Insanity from eBay rather than through Beachbody. It's not as if I stopped talking to her or answering her questions at that point. You're right that I'm probably a little defensive and that's my bad, but it is frustrating that any post related to Beachbody is immediately met with skepticism and negativity. Perhaps that blame should be placed on the fellow coaches of mine who have made this all about selling people stuff, but I still don't think it's fair to assume that all of us are that way.

Furthermore, no, I'm not posting to try to drum up sales. If that were the case, I would have posted something singing the praises of the program or trying to promote a challenge group. I wasn't asking what the program was, I asked if there were any real people out there with results, good or bad, to share. Not because I want to use them for my business, but because hey, maybe I'm actually interested in the product and am curious about results other than what Beachbody has released with their official informercials? Just because I'm a coach doesn't mean I'm going to blindly purchase every single product the company puts out there.

I understand what you are saying, but look at it from our perspective. If you just wanted info, wouldn't your coaches' group or the BB forums be a more appropriate place to ask since only coaches have it? That's why people are saying this is advertising/selling.

Although I am relieved to finally see a BB coach admit that they promote challenge groups here to drum up sales. It's much better than the "No, I just really want to support and motivate people…even though I never respond to any post that isn't about BB" line that we usually see.

Totally, and I have posted in those other places as well. It isn't only coaches that have it, though. It's on sale to customers of coaches as well--which further begs the question, what good would this post be doing me saleswise? I'm asking for results. The only people that have the program are, as you say, coaches or customers who already have a coach. Neither of those groups benefit me financially.

As for challenge groups, yes of course it's nice to get a sale or two when you run them. However, again, that isn't what it's about for every single one of us. I have a group of about 15 people on Facebook right now starting the 21 Day Fix in a week, and I think maybe two of them purchased something from me.

JoRocka

I am one of those "coaches," I'm not looking for one. I guess I'm a bit confused as to why we're constantly being attacked for not having qualifications. I've never claimed to be a fitness expert or a nutritionist and I don't attempt to give my customers advice that I'm not qualified to give. I'm here to motivate and support people who are looking for some extra encouragement, that's it. I understand that some Beachbody coaches have given the rest of us a pretty bad reputation but I don't think it's fair to categorize all of us as quacks giving out false information.

coach- means you have something to offer- some something qualifiable. If you say you're a coach- you need to provide qualifications.

but you're NOT a fitness expert

and you're NOT a nutirionalist.

so exactly what makes you a coach?

And why do you need to be a "coach" to encourage and support people- there are several people here who DO have qualifications- ARE fitness professionals and ARE here encouraging people without being a coach.

So- I don't think it's to much to ask you to explain yourself.

_HeartsOnFire_

Actually no, most of the people who are listed as my customers have not purchased a single thing from me. One of the girls who I've been talking back and forth with just ordered Insanity from eBay rather than through Beachbody. It's not as if I stopped talking to her or answering her questions at that point. You're right that I'm probably a little defensive and that's my bad, but it is frustrating that any post related to Beachbody is immediately met with skepticism and negativity. Perhaps that blame should be placed on the fellow coaches of mine who have made this all about selling people stuff, but I still don't think it's fair to assume that all of us are that way.

Furthermore, no, I'm not posting to try to drum up sales. If that were the case, I would have posted something singing the praises of the program or trying to promote a challenge group. I wasn't asking what the program was, I asked if there were any real people out there with results, good or bad, to share. Not because I want to use them for my business, but because hey, maybe I'm actually interested in the product and am curious about results other than what Beachbody has released with their official informercials? Just because I'm a coach doesn't mean I'm going to blindly purchase every single product the company puts out there.

I understand what you are saying, but look at it from our perspective. If you just wanted info, wouldn't your coaches' group or the BB forums be a more appropriate place to ask since only coaches have it? That's why people are saying this is advertising/selling.

Although I am relieved to finally see a BB coach admit that they promote challenge groups here to drum up sales. It's much better than the "No, I just really want to support and motivate people…even though I never respond to any post that isn't about BB" line that we usually see.

Agree with kgeyser on all of the above. It is nice to see a BB Coach who isn't looking to sell.

rjdunn87

Actually no, most of the people who are listed as my customers have not purchased a single thing from me. One of the girls who I've been talking back and forth with just ordered Insanity from eBay rather than through Beachbody. It's not as if I stopped talking to her or answering her questions at that point. You're right that I'm probably a little defensive and that's my bad, but it is frustrating that any post related to Beachbody is immediately met with skepticism and negativity. Perhaps that blame should be placed on the fellow coaches of mine who have made this all about selling people stuff, but I still don't think it's fair to assume that all of us are that way.

Furthermore, no, I'm not posting to try to drum up sales. If that were the case, I would have posted something singing the praises of the program or trying to promote a challenge group. I wasn't asking what the program was, I asked if there were any real people out there with results, good or bad, to share. Not because I want to use them for my business, but because hey, maybe I'm actually interested in the product and am curious about results other than what Beachbody has released with their official informercials? Just because I'm a coach doesn't mean I'm going to blindly purchase every single product the company puts out there.

I understand what you are saying, but look at it from our perspective. If you just wanted info, wouldn't your coaches' group or the BB forums be a more appropriate place to ask since only coaches have it? That's why people are saying this is advertising/selling.

Although I am relieved to finally see a BB coach admit that they promote challenge groups here to drum up sales. It's much better than the "No, I just really want to support and motivate people…even though I never respond to any post that isn't about BB" line that we usually see.

Agree with kgeyser on all of the above. It is nice to see a BB Coach who isn't looking to sell.

Thank you.

kgeyser

Actually no, most of the people who are listed as my customers have not purchased a single thing from me. One of the girls who I've been talking back and forth with just ordered Insanity from eBay rather than through Beachbody. It's not as if I stopped talking to her or answering her questions at that point. You're right that I'm probably a little defensive and that's my bad, but it is frustrating that any post related to Beachbody is immediately met with skepticism and negativity. Perhaps that blame should be placed on the fellow coaches of mine who have made this all about selling people stuff, but I still don't think it's fair to assume that all of us are that way.

Furthermore, no, I'm not posting to try to drum up sales. If that were the case, I would have posted something singing the praises of the program or trying to promote a challenge group. I wasn't asking what the program was, I asked if there were any real people out there with results, good or bad, to share. Not because I want to use them for my business, but because hey, maybe I'm actually interested in the product and am curious about results other than what Beachbody has released with their official informercials? Just because I'm a coach doesn't mean I'm going to blindly purchase every single product the company puts out there.

I understand what you are saying, but look at it from our perspective. If you just wanted info, wouldn't your coaches' group or the BB forums be a more appropriate place to ask since only coaches have it? That's why people are saying this is advertising/selling.

Although I am relieved to finally see a BB coach admit that they promote challenge groups here to drum up sales. It's much better than the "No, I just really want to support and motivate people…even though I never respond to any post that isn't about BB" line that we usually see.

Totally, and I have posted in those other places as well. It isn't only coaches that have it, though. It's on sale to customers of coaches as well--which further begs the question, what good would this post be doing me saleswise? I'm asking for results. The only people that have the program are, as you say, coaches or customers who already have a coach. Neither of those groups benefit me financially.

As for challenge groups, yes of course it's nice to get a sale or two when you run them. However, again, that isn't what it's about for every single one of us. I have a group of about 15 people on Facebook right now starting the 21 Day Fix in a week, and I think maybe two of them purchased something from me.

Ok, let's not get silly here. It went on sale last week to current coaches and BB clients, and open to the general public this week. BB people just got the materials in the last 48 hours. Nobody has any results yet. They haven't had access to the materials long enough to have results.