Here are some of my tips!

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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    let's get off the "my blood work is great, so I'm healthy" train.

    So, how are we defining health then?

    Ok, to clarify...

    If I were 150 pounds overweight, I wouldn't consider myself "healthy" based solely on "blood work."

    I realize that I'm among the minority here.

    I won't patronize you by posting links (which is all the rage here), but you might want to check out the risk factors for, let's just pick two...heart attacks and strokes.

    No, I agree. However, since their numbers ARE good and the weight IS coming off, I don't think a little junk is particularly concerning. I could be wrong, but that's how I take those comments.

    I would argue it isn't the "little junk" that is the problem either. I suspect that an obese individual with a "perfect" diet is *still* at increased risk of heart attacks and strokes *because of* the obesity, not the quantity of "junk" in the diet (assuming sufficient nutrient levels yada yada yada).
  • redversustheblue
    redversustheblue Posts: 1,216 Member
    Im happy you all eat processed sugary/salty foods and still manage to lose weight. You all must be so proud. I will stick with my organic non-GMO, unrefined lifestyle and teas as I up my exercise regime and see what happens.

    Yes, I am quite proud. I'm quite proud I can live without having a panic attack that my food isn't non-GMO and unrefined and everything else you claim. I can go to the ice cream store with my friends, or order a pizza, or eat a donut that was brought in to work and not be guilty about it, and that to me is a huge accomplishment. You shouldn't belittle others for wanting that.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member

    1. Yes they have lost weight but this does not mean they are healthy and I'm sure they had to REDUCE the amount of these processed foods SIGNIFICANTLY to achieve this.
    2. It is not irrelevant at all and I am living proof. It is not NECESSARY but helpful.
    3. IVE ALREADY STATED that this has worked for me and might work for others who haven't tried it but are stuck. It is proven that small meals throughout the day is more beneficial to ones metabolism than 3 large meals. It does not make a HUGE difference but it can take someone to that next level.
    5. Green tea helps diffuse bloating around the stomach area. Not kill fat, you're right but reduce bloating and flush out toxins that usually accumulate around that area.

    Name a toxin, any toxin that the green tea will flush from your system.

    I think you may not realize that you're asking an incredibly complicated question that at this very moment is being investigated by some of the best oncology & drug designers in the world.

    It's first prudent to ask IF catechins and (polyphenols in general) actually have an effect in humans -- such as boosting immunity. One of the big issues with green tea derived compounds like catechins is that they aren't that bio-available, which basically means they aren't taken into our body well. Catechins could be the be-all end-all cure to cancer, but currently we wouldn't know what to do with it since we don't even fully understand how catechins are synthesized by our body!

    As for the "what do they actually do?" question and how that can help relieve our body of toxins, the mechanism of action is unclear and very likely to be hugely complex. The reason for this is that the molecular targets (what catechins bind to to have effect) are very diverse and there are LOTS of them. Most of this stuff has been figured out in test tubes, so often we can't be so sure if it will be the same in humans. Also, since these kinds of compounds do a lot of different things (cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, Alzheimer's, immune system modulation, allergy, etc.) it is likely benefits are not do to any one process or one specific toxin like you are asking.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3763709/

    This article touches on what I mean by that. It's about EGCG, a major catechin compound of interest in a lot of biological research. It's kind of technical if you don't have a degree on metabolics/oncology, but the basic topics are approachable at least.

    Some of the suggested broad-level mechanisms of action are removing reactive oxygen species (the so called antioxidant effect), hypolipidemic effects (lower blood fat levels), helping to prevent DNA damage, immune cell activation ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23835657) , and altering the level of important proteins known to help in the prevention of cancer.

    And then some mechanisms of action can get really specific, like this study ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16889749 ) looking into catechin compound EGCG effects on the release of effector molecules by immune cells (this is just one example of thousands of equally specific mechanisms for different things).

    TL;DR - Catechin compounds(a compound found in Green Tea) are reported to do a lot of different things to a lot of targets, but it is unclear if their effects are truly significant for therapy at this point.

    So...which toxin? You don't have to name all of them. Just name one that is cleared from the body by drinking this particular drink that wouldn't otherwise be cleared.
    Just so you are aware, that on the day of your passing, I am going to make sure that on your tombstone it reads "What toxin? Name one toxin!!!

    Even better, I want it to read:

    "Here lies jof...
    the man who
    discovered the toxin
    that is cleared
    by a detox/cleanse"
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I wish it would flush lead.

    Damned indoor ranges.

    Personally, I'd like one for mercury.
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    1405421975014

    No.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    I wish it would flush lead.

    Damned indoor ranges.

    Personally, I'd like one for mercury.

    Didn't you know?
    Green tea flushes that.
    Because Japan.
    Because sushi.

    Run little Tuna, run.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I wish it would flush lead.

    Damned indoor ranges.

    Personally, I'd like one for mercury.

    Didn't you know?
    Green tea flushes that.
    Because Japan.
    Because sushi.

    Run little Tuna, run.

    I wish...

    ...because sushi is part of my problem...(and the solution is to stop eating sushi until it falls again).
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    I wish it would flush lead.

    Damned indoor ranges.

    Personally, I'd like one for mercury.

    Didn't you know?
    Green tea flushes that.
    Because Japan.
    Because sushi.

    Run little Tuna, run.

    I wish...

    ...because sushi is part of my problem...(and the solution is to stop eating sushi until it falls again).
    Just as an aside, what would you recommend to someone who has never eaten sushi before? Not a fan of shrimps or prawns, never tried crab, have no problem with smoked salmon and other cooked fish.

    The field is yours.
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member
    Just as an aside, what would you recommend to someone who has never eaten sushi before? Not a fan of shrimps or prawns, never tried crab, have no problem with smoked salmon and other cooked fish.

    The field is yours.
    if you dont like shrimp then just order anything without shrimp in it (most places will list ingredients). seriously, never tried a sushi roll that i didnt like

    edited to take out quotes, and to say screw you, now all i can think about is sushi
  • WJS_jeepster
    WJS_jeepster Posts: 224 Member
    I am in, and seriously - this time I'd like to get through ALL the comments before it gets locked. I'm usually about 1/2 way through, click "next" and bounce out to the main menu because it's been shut down. Bah
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    I wish it would flush lead.

    Damned indoor ranges.

    Personally, I'd like one for mercury.

    Didn't you know?
    Green tea flushes that.
    Because Japan.
    Because sushi.

    Run little Tuna, run.

    Worry not, the tuna will be gone soon enough anyways, and JOF, as a female of reproductive age, I have exactly ZERO sympathy for your tuna eating plight. :grumble:
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    I am in, and seriously - this time I'd like to get through ALL the comments before it gets locked. I'm usually about 1/2 way through, click "next" and bounce out to the main menu because it's been shut down. Bah
    Open every page in a new window.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Just as an aside, what would you recommend to someone who has never eaten sushi before? Not a fan of shrimps or prawns, never tried crab, have no problem with smoked salmon and other cooked fish.

    The field is yours.

    I'd recommending that person take a look at the textures they like. Sushi is a very textured experience.
    Smoked salmon has made it into sushi.

    Personally, I'm not a fan of oily fish, so I avoid some of the fishier things like mackerel. Here's some things I would suggest to someone to try it:
    Nigiri - this is the piece of food on vinegared rice.
    Maguro - it's tuna, fairly good beef tartare like texture.
    Octopus - it's cooked, chewy, taste
    Tamago - it's a lightly sweetened omelet
    Inari - fried sweetened tofu pockets filled with rice
    salmon - because 'murica
    hokkigai - steamed surf clam, it's delicious and a good chewy texture
    tai - it's red snapper, lighter textured, and generally dressed with a little citrus vinegar, it's delicious

    Some things I avoid due to texture for new folks:
    uni - sea urchin roe, scallop

    Rolls -
    kappa maki - seaweed + rice + cucumber
    tekka maki - seaweed + rice + tuna
    godzilla - or some variant name, it's a rollow that's dipped in tempura batter and fried
    california roll - because why not?

    most restaurant rolls seem to be a variant of a dressed up california roll, so go from there. I'd avoid eel of any type though, personal preference, but I don't find it very good, texturally or taste wise.
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    Personal favorite:

    Sashimi Escolar, also called super white tuna. It is NOT actually tuna, and um.... well.... I wouldn't eat a huge serving of it. I've never personally had an issue, but there have been stories.

    But anyways, still my absolute favorite served extremely cold.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    HAHAHAHAHA. Just read about it.

    Generally, if I don't know the traditional japanese name for a piece of fish being used in sushi, I won't eat it. That also helps me avoid a fish I see cropping up everywhere.

    Tilapia. Sweet, a fresh water, farmed, trash fish as sushi? Good thing freshwater fish don't carry parasites that are zoonotic.
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    Seriously, it has the creamiest most buttery flavor and texture of any fish I've every tried, because it's packed full of indigestible lipids.... yea, don't care still eat it.

    I haven't tried tilapia as a sushi before, it's my go to fish for fish tacos and most other recipes where I want a light flaky white fish since I usually avoid cod etc. but I'll have to see if I can spot it next time I'm out.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    So...anyone hit MFP Bingo yet?
  • Galatea_Stone
    Galatea_Stone Posts: 2,037 Member
    So...anyone hit MFP Bingo yet?

    Not yet. No rage quit.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    So...anyone hit MFP Bingo yet?

    Not yet. No rage quit.

    That one girl who was putting up bad studies sort of rage quit (at least the thread..supposedly). That might count, right? Unless she comes back then that covers the flounceButNotReally square.
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  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    This thread makes me think of:

    How does one have a Joined Date of 2011 and be 19 yrs old in 2014? Is there a way to keep changing your birthdate in your profile, and if so.....are they dedicated enough to keep up with it?

    Oh....where is the bingo sheet at again?
  • Indygirl_81
    Indygirl_81 Posts: 142 Member
    Good to know about Green Tea/Ginger Tea... I will have to try it.
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    So...anyone hit MFP Bingo yet?

    Not yet. No rage quit.

    That one girl who was putting up bad studies sort of rage quit (at least the thread..supposedly). That might count, right? Unless she comes back then that covers the flounceButNotReally square.

    It was the second thread of the night that she said that too. (well for me it was night time anyway)
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    How does one have a Joined Date of 2011 and be 19 yrs old in 2014? Is there a way to keep changing your birthdate in your profile,

    You can change it under settings and update diet profile.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    Good to know about Green Tea/Ginger Tea... I will have to try it.

    :laugh:
  • 1911JR
    1911JR Posts: 276
    Unfortunately OP, a lot of the "tips" you've given don't hold up very well to peer reviewed clinical study. I've done this for 30 years and in the beginning I followed a lot of what you posted........................................till I really found out it's mostly myth and anecdotal.
    While nutrition does matter, for weight loss it's going to be about calorie in/out (CICO). [/b]

    OP, :noway: I will be nice and go with the above answer.
  • changelife13
    changelife13 Posts: 15 Member
    Pre planning my meals and making them ahead. I have finally realized this is ESSENTIAL for me! When I come home from work..if I don't have my food ready to go...Forget About It!
  • pythonesk
    pythonesk Posts: 20 Member
    Here's another myth: drink tons of water

    Total hogwash. All it does is water down your intercellular fluids - sometimes dangerously.
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  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    Ooooooh! Water is bad! Eating is bad! Food is bad! Working out is bad!


    Wrong! You're doing it wrong! All of you are doing it wrong!


    This is not how any of this works!

    (Did I summarize this thread well?)
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