Here are some of my tips!
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OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
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I am sooo sorry that any of you would be that offended by me trying to post tips that are not harmful at all that could make a difference in someone's health and weight loss goals and then go as far as saying that I was forcing them on anyone when I was just trying to offer TIPS. Seriously, I was just trying to help so I have no idea how it even got to this point.
I think it started when you said that our metabolism stops when we sleep. Not being snarky or rude. That's where people put their foot down and had to let you know that there were issues with your claims. The meal timing thing has been discussed many many many times over and there is science supporting all sides, so the best course of action is to eat whenever works for you.
When did I say stops? I said slows down. I know it doesn't just stop. And yes, meal timing has proven effective for me. It might for anyone who is at a plateau, to take them to that next level.0 -
OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
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OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
From you, I consider this the very highest of praise. :happy:0 -
OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
^^ This. The problem with "tips" that complicate the matter or add rules which aren't helpful is that it might make someone think they're doing the wrong thing, or make them overwhelmed and they give up.
Telling people they shouldn't eat processed food might make someone who doesn't have much of a choice that day think "well I've failed" when really, they only need to make a choice that fits their calorie and macro goals.
Telling someone they shouldn't eat after a certain time might make someone under-eat by going to bed hungry because they think if they eat, they won't burn off the fat. They may late binge, or "give up" because it's all too hard.
It's like a basic recipe. Pretty much anyone can follow a basic recipe and get a decent outcome. But if you tell them that to make it work, they need to use exotic ingredients, only make it at a certain time of day, and have to hop on one leg while doing it, most people won't bother trying the recipe.0 -
+2 (except in MK they say Keep It Simple Sweetie...because.)OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
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OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
Truly was not trying to over complicate anything for anyone. I was trying to offer tips to anyone who is stuck and perhaps trying to take it to the next level. Weight loss has been known to plateau if your body gets used to a certain action.0 -
OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
well, this...plus some of the JUST TIPS are flat out wrong.
and the infatuation on "losing weight healthily" actually shows an unhealthy relationship to food. there's been no offer of what that even means. person A loses 5 pounds and person B loses 5 pounds, but one of them is healthier because....smoothies, even tho all of their health markers are identical. this type thinking leads down a bad road0 -
I believe only one person has given me one reason as to why I'm "wrong" (a website link) but most have just offered their own personal experiences which is also where I based most of my tips on. TIPS. Not die hard facts, JUST. TIPS.
many a painful and unfortunate experience has come from offering someone just the tip
If it's painful, you're doing it wrong.
really some people consider the whole thing lucky.0 -
I am sooo sorry that any of you would be that offended by me trying to post tips that are not harmful at all that could make a difference in someone's health and weight loss goals and then go as far as saying that I was forcing them on anyone when I was just trying to offer TIPS. Seriously, I was just trying to help so I have no idea how it even got to this point.
I think it started when you said that our metabolism stops when we sleep. Not being snarky or rude. That's where people put their foot down and had to let you know that there were issues with your claims. The meal timing thing has been discussed many many many times over and there is science supporting all sides, so the best course of action is to eat whenever works for you.
When did I say stops? I said slows down. I know it doesn't just stop. And yes, meal timing has proven effective for me. It might for anyone who is at a plateau, to take them to that next level.
Except that you are at a plateau, so it isn't working for you. That's because your body is going to burn X number of calories in a 24 hour period based on your BMR, daily activity and exercise. You don't burn X+more by eating at specific times.
If you want real help breaking your plateau you should change to lose half a pound a week, back off on the cardio and increase resistance training. We've discussed your low lean mass and how it's hindering your weight loss.0 -
OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
From you, I consider this the very highest of praise. :happy:
Dawww! :blushing: I'm just a normal woman.
You give out some great advice and I appreciate that you were patient with person who started this thread! :drinker:0 -
Truly was not trying to over complicate anything for anyone. I was trying to offer tips to anyone who is stuck and perhaps trying to take it to the next level. Weight loss has been known to plateau if your body gets used to a certain action.
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OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
Truly was not trying to over complicate anything for anyone. I was trying to offer tips to anyone who is stuck and perhaps trying to take it to the next level. Weight loss has been known to plateau if your body gets used to a certain action.
Okay, I get that. Really I do. It's just that your tips rely on a logic where you have been doing "enough" for awhile and then when you stall you need to do MOAR. Which is not always the case. Can you imagine that perhaps a person who has plateaued might simply need to re-examine their cal goal? Double check their scale? Re-commit to accurate measuring. Fine tune their workout cal burns perhaps by buying an HRM? Re calculate their TDEE vis a vis weight loss or a change in activity levels?
Those are things that would be more helpful to look at first rather than ramping up their weight loss plan with complicated rules that could overtake their entire lives.
Does that make sense? Honestly now that I have learned that YOU are in plateau this thread has become more about helping you uncomplicate things and find the true cause of your plateau and solving it...or at least I think that would be a good use of time right now.0 -
I am reading this while eating my dinner on my normal EVERY night schedule of between midnight and 2 a.m. I have always eaten my evening meals late at night, and when I decided to change my diet for the better last year, I changed everything...except the time.
I'm eating barbecued chicken breast and cooked kale. It's almost 12:30 a.m., and I'm just getting started on my meal. I will watch late night tv as always, while lying in my bed, and drift off to sleep around 3 a.m. as usual. I lost 78 lbs from Feb to Dec 2013, using proper diet and only recumbent bike riding due to a back fracture. I'm at my first goal of 160 lbs, and have maintained that for 7 months, still eating late night dinner.
I always take issue with being told that I have to stop eating at a set time to lose weight. Not true, at least for me. But YMMV.0 -
OP, I understand that you posted this with the best of intentions. There's an old engineering maxim called KISS (keep it simple stupid). Making the process more complex and adding more steps is usually unnecessary and rarely improves the final product. It does however make the product more liable to break down.
It's human nature to imagine things that seem hard must require complex methods for dealing with them, but the truth is KISS is best for weight loss. Complex plans make the process seem cooler, but rarely do they actually add value.
We encounter all sorts of new "tips" on here all the time. What many of the regular posters object to are not your intentions, but the fact that your tips may cause another individual to over complicate their weight loss plan and increase the likelihood of a future breakdown.
From you, I consider this the very highest of praise. :happy:
Dawww! :blushing: I'm just a normal woman.
You give out some great advice and I appreciate that you were patient with person who started this thread! :drinker:
Patience isn't always my strong point but I like to think I can usually tell when it's necessary....usually. :drinker:0 -
Just break up!
Oh its not that type of thread...0 -
I know that you meant to help with your post and that you probably feel a bit attacked. Unfortunately there just isn't the science to back up what you posted. Many of us follow those same types of tips when we started and then learned more about what science really says. Many of us who have had success do not follow the tips you listed (I just ate a bowl of ice cream and I'm headed to bed).
The most important factor to fat loss is simply dietary adherance.
I believe we had a discussion yesterday about some private issues that you had while losing most of your weight. Those issues are pretty apparent in your weight loss tips (they are very typical beginner tips for eating disorders). I know you are trying to get better, but as I said you should think about maintaining for a while and work on strength training.
I understand but this was more about achieving healthy weight loss and a lifestyle rather than rapid. For me, my tips worked.
I get that your tips worked for you - we all have our individual tips that work for us.
Where you went wrong I think is when you worded your tips 'You have to do this or that' which then came across as requirements for everybody.
I must say I have followed none of your tips - I never drink smoothies, I drink diet soda, I don't preplan meal,I eat at all times, including right before bed time, I never drink green tea or ginger tea.
Amazingly I have lost weight ( aprox rate of 1 kg per month, far from rapidly) .
Perhaps I will post some of my tips.
Nibble on dried apricots whilst posting on iPad late at night
Feed the dog just before eating your own dinner
Hang your clothes on the clothesline before going to work
Sleep with 2 pillows.
Now, whilst it is true I did all of these whilst losing weight, they may or may not have any correlation to my weight loss.
Bit like drinking ginger tea - sure, you did it whilst losing weight - but that doesn't directly make it a weight loss tip for you, let alone for everyone else.0 -
With all due respect:If you are at a plateau like myself or are just now beginning your journey, here is what I have noticed makes all the difference:
1. ***WHAT*** you eat (a 200 calorie homemade smoothie with good antioxidant/fiber filled fruits and green veggies is way better than a zero calorie coke zero) and avoid refined, processed, sugar/salty foods. If you want to take it to the next level, avoid the center aisles in the grocery store altogether except for wheat bread, quinoa, organic peanut butter (if you're like me and will love PB till the end of time) and white tuna in water!
No. Food is just food. There is no proof in your "what" theory.2. WHEN you eat (try to avoid eating past 7 PM as food digest slower while you sleep)
No. You can eat any time you want and still lose weight. Your food does not digest slower when you sleep.
[/quote]3. HOW OFTEN you eat (5-6 small meals/snacks a day has proven to be more effective than 3 normal meals)
4. PRE-PLAN your meals. This is an option but has proven to be extremely effective! Fail to prepare, prepare to fail type attitude. Cooking your meals for the next day each night has helped many stay on track and buying a small cooler will insure that you follow your guidelines because now your food is traveling with you
No. Meal timing ha nothing to do with weight loss. When to prepare meals is all in one's preference.5. GREEN TEA AND GINGER TEA are so extremely beneficial for people trying to lose weight especially around the tummy area! Not a cure or easy way out but green tea provides energy and speeds up metabolism. I buy 5 oz of tea leaves from my local tea store but organic bagged green tea is just as good ginger tea is good for after meals because it promotes digestion. Green tea can also be a replacement for people who are trying to not drink coffee as much.
No. Just no. Green tea is simply that-tea. It's also a diuretic like all teas are, and it certainly affects your bladder but it does not have anything to do with losing weight around your tummy area.
Really, these are all common weight loss myths. The only thing required to lose weight is a calorie deficit, and the type of food has nothing to do with weight loss but more with energy and how that food makes you feel. 0 -
This is not true. How much you put in your body is what determines weight loss or gain. What you eat is personal preference only.There is no argument with number one. What you put in your body is detrimental to weight loss/gain.0 -
I've eaten Carls Jr. twice this week and have dropped 4lbs. Your points are irrelevant.0
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